View Full Version : Boosting stats/Kill farming! Is there anyway to stop it?
TANKKAAR
07-29-2012, 03:57 AM
So I was minding my own business and joining PVP matches looking for rushers to rush when I stumbled upon a great little find...lol... I saw IinuiI in a locked game with only 2 people in there, when I got curious.... he had been in this game for a while so I decided to pop in and see what was up! Lucky me I cracked the code on the first try "NU" and what I found really made me laugh! To think that someone would waste their time doing this rather then playing actual players and possibly getting better just utterly astonishes me. I don't know if this is punishable or goes against TOS but really, IMO it should.
http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/Tedpotter3/Screenshot_2012-07-29-01-26-37.png
I even asked him if he was farming his kills and he openly admitted it to me!! NO SHAME??
http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/Tedpotter3/Screenshot_2012-07-29-01-28-19.png
Then what he said to me is beyond my understanding... i mean wtf does "run xd" mean? so I told him he was sad and killed him...
http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/Tedpotter3/Screenshot_2012-07-29-01-29-10.png
Tell me? Do you guys find this acceptable? Is this common practice? Is there anything that can be done to stop it?
DISCUSS..
Fallen_Chisk_Angels
07-29-2012, 04:13 AM
Well putting names up in the forums is frowned upon, and kill farming isnt against ToS so he can do it if he wishes.
Thier is no possible way of stoping since ppl HAVE the freedom of doing so, but dont get me wrong i do c ur point, y kill farm? It really doesnt sound right cause its really no fun at all but yet ppl do it. So this guy is probably gunna do it again.
P.S. He probably ment to say "Run xD" lol
Otukura
07-29-2012, 04:13 AM
It's pretty obvious who does it, and it's not like you're going to stop it. We all know who has skill and who doesn't.
TANKKAAR
07-29-2012, 04:15 AM
"Run xD" lol
I was thinking about that... now im leaning towards "ruin kd"
Fallen_Chisk_Angels
07-29-2012, 04:15 AM
It's pretty obvious who does it, and it's not like you're going to stop it. We all know who has skill and who doesn't.
Exactly! So just let them kill farmers be, period.
Fallen_Chisk_Angels
07-29-2012, 04:16 AM
I was thinking about that... now im leaning towards "ruin kd"
lol if it was he wuldnt have missed the "r". Since ppl usually type it "kdr"
TANKKAAR
07-29-2012, 04:17 AM
It's pretty obvious who does it, and it's not like you're going to stop it. We all know who has skill and who doesn't.
IMO its like scamming but for your k/d...
lol if it was he wuldnt have missed the "r". Since ppl usually type it "kdr"
But he missed the I and the K
Fallen_Chisk_Angels
07-29-2012, 04:20 AM
But he missed the I and the K[/QUOTE]
Then he really ment to put "run xD"
Otukura
07-29-2012, 04:21 AM
IMO its like scamming but for your k/d...
He's not taking advantage of someone, the other party is in complete cooperation. Or it could even be him. I don't see how that makes sense at all.
Fallen_Chisk_Angels
07-29-2012, 04:28 AM
He's not taking advantage of someone, the other party is in complete cooperation. Or it could even be him. I don't see how that makes sense at all.
Even if the other player wasnt in complete cooperation it still wuldnt be scamming, like as if rushing wuld be illegally aswell...
TANKKAAR
07-29-2012, 04:33 AM
He's not taking advantage of someone, the other party is in complete cooperation. Or it could even be him. I don't see how that makes sense at all.
The other party is him... and by scamming i am referring to when other players look at his k/d.. The whole reason for these stats is so you can show (or not) how good you are ect.... By falsifying these you are now leading others to believe a lie which is the foundation for any scam... I didnt mean it in its literal sense.
Back on topic tho :P
Do you find it acceptable to kill boost?
Otukura
07-29-2012, 04:39 AM
By falsifying these you are now leading others to believe a lie which is the foundation for any scam... I didnt mean it in its literal sense.
I don't think anyone would believe it.
Do you find it acceptable to kill boost?
We all know who does, so tbh, I don't really care if they do.
Fallen_Chisk_Angels
07-29-2012, 04:39 AM
The other party is him... and by scamming i am referring to when other players look at his k/d.. The whole reason for these stats is so you can show (or not) how good you are ect.... By falsifying these you are now leading others to believe a lie which is the foundation for any scam... I didnt mean it in its literal sense.
Back on topic tho :P
Do you find it acceptable to kill boost?
Well stats dont mean anything, i can kill someone with 20K kills and 13K deaths in arena, like otu said we all know who has skill and who doesnt.
To tell u the truth thier is no answer to that, ppl may have diff opnions and IMO i culd careless.
Plaguemaw
07-29-2012, 04:52 AM
I think kill boosting in this manner is a childish cowardly act, but he's not affecting me or my game in any manner. So keep on farming if its what makes you happy and that's how you choose to play.
I don't support kill boosters, as my kdr is negative. The only way this should be an issue is if he steals leaderboards from a legit PvP fighter. Otherwise I say let the guy have fun slaughtering his dummy, which is him too.
EDIT-- anyone who hates kill boosters, just rush their kdr back to crap if it really bothers you
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Matutd
07-29-2012, 06:18 AM
If it hadn't already happened before, then yes, it is completely unfair for those who have pvped for a long time to get on the kdr leaderboards. However, now, the only way to get on the leaderboards would be to boost kdr.
Phoenixking
07-29-2012, 08:05 AM
If it hadn't already happened before, then yes, it is completely unfair for those who have pvped for a long time to get on the kdr leaderboards. However, now, the only way to get on the leaderboards would be to boost kdr.
The most common way to boost kdr, hunting noobs and rushing them with crafted set
Piosidon
07-29-2012, 08:21 AM
at least he's not botting (believe me I've seen them farming kills too)
CrimsonTider
07-29-2012, 10:04 AM
As Otu said, it is clear by looking at individual's kdr who does this and who earns their kills the old fashioned way. I am proud of my horrible kdr as I know I have died at the hands of many of the "pros." ;)
Nihiliste
07-29-2012, 10:24 AM
He's even more dead when I see him again in PvP. :D
TruePlayer
07-29-2012, 10:46 AM
Old story bro if you look at ctf leaderboard you see who the farmers are lol, some these people r consider some best pvpers and they farm most there stats, but its ok if they have the time to do so its not against the rulez.
Whirlzap
07-29-2012, 12:17 PM
As Otu said, it is clear by looking at individual's kdr who does this and who earns their kills the old fashioned way. I am proud of my horrible kdr as I know I have died at the hands of many of the "pros." ;)
Doll best burd.
Nihiliste
07-29-2012, 12:22 PM
Wow u. Took my quick chat.
TANKKAAR
07-29-2012, 01:11 PM
You're restitution? I kept killing you on my mage buahaha!>:]
You wish...lol
Fallen_Chisk_Angels
07-29-2012, 01:56 PM
Old story bro if you look at ctf leaderboard you see who the farmers are lol, some these people r consider some best pvpers and they farm most there stats, but its ok if they have the time to do so its not against the rulez.
I dont get how being ontop of the CtF leaderboard makes u a kill farmer...
TANKKAAR
07-29-2012, 02:07 PM
All im saying is if the Devs were to at least make the spawn area off limits to the opposing team and to keep teams from hiding back in their spawn make it unable to be re-entered unless you are "re-spawning" like with DL! This way it not only keeps spawners from inflating their stats but it also would make it a pain in the butt for these people who are kill farming there own toons.
Otukura
07-30-2012, 01:19 AM
Your red text makes this nsfw :/
TANKKAAR
07-30-2012, 01:23 AM
Your red text makes this nsfw :/
lol... get back to work
MightyMicah
07-31-2012, 01:58 PM
Kill boosting is kinda dumb. I don't do it because I like the satisfaction of knowing I "earned my kdr" so to speak. I don't mind if others do it though. Not like it affects me at all.
gundamsone
07-31-2012, 09:17 PM
Just make the high score boards into an active leaderboards.
What I mean is have people with high kdr face each other. Lets say if you're ranked x'th you have to face people +/- 100 your kdr. If you don't face them within a set amount of time lets say 2 weeks month then you're taken off the leaderboards. SO for example: if you're farming off a noob with negative kdr, those kills will count as inactivity. So it will force people to join real games and fight others.
So by implementing this people with legit KDR will stay at the top, and those who farm will drop quick off the boards.
Problem solved.
P.S. sts might have to implement this to 1-2 decimal places b/c i figure most people will be within single digits
EDIT: this will only solve the KDR leaderboards which I think if implemented will be more important than total kills.
Buddyf97
08-01-2012, 06:04 PM
I saw a team of three farming 2 naked birds. And then they team whoever joins the final spot. And these people weren't no names... Rather not say on the forums...
Nihiliste
08-02-2012, 09:25 AM
I saw a team of three farming 2 naked birds. And then they team whoever joins the final spot. And these people weren't no names... Rather not say on the forums...
They deserve to be known for their patheticness.
Livemau
08-02-2012, 10:01 AM
another thing ppl do is go into a 5v5 and sit in the enemy spawn and team them
even 5 people cant break out
Brave Sir Robin
08-02-2012, 02:50 PM
Just make the high score boards into an active leaderboards.
What I mean is have people with high kdr face each other. Lets say if you're ranked x'th you have to face people +/- 100 your kdr. If you don't face them within a set amount of time lets say 2 weeks month then you're taken off the leaderboards. SO for example: if you're farming off a noob with negative kdr, those kills will count as inactivity. So it will force people to join real games and fight others.
So by implementing this people with legit KDR will stay at the top, and those who farm will drop quick off the boards.
Problem solved.
P.S. sts might have to implement this to 1-2 decimal places b/c i figure most people will be within single digits
EDIT: this will only solve the KDR leaderboards which I think if implemented will be more important than total kills.
That's not a bad idea.
But the best solution would be to introduce a real ranking system, like Elo. Elo is used in chess, but computer games use it as well (e.g. League of Legends).
The main idea is that you earn points depending on your opponent's rating. E.g. if you have a rating of, say, 500 and the guy you killed has 500, you get 16 points. If he has 800, you get 32. If he has less than 200 you get very little. Ofc you lose points if you get killed, depending on your opponent's ranking :)
Another ranking system used in video games is Microsoft's TrueSkill.
Not sure how easy it would be to implement something like this in PL but it would definitely help with the kill-farming-by-killing-my-own-twink problem. Also, it would help in organising tournaments, e.g. Elite Tournament for rating > 500, beginner's for < 100.
But most importantly, it would provide an objective means of assessing player's skills = real leaderboards.
theryanluu
08-02-2012, 06:00 PM
yep:)
theryanluu
08-02-2012, 06:06 PM
i think devs shoudl clear iinuii kdr cuz he been farming killS:/
theryanluu
08-02-2012, 06:07 PM
buttttt hes gonna change his name so...
FluffNStuff
08-02-2012, 06:10 PM
Any 55/56 players looking to farm kills should look for hunnytanker in PvP over the next couple of days. Make sure you get your farming in soon because once I get a couple hundred deaths it will start getting tougher.
Twinklaser
08-03-2012, 11:19 AM
Check the high scores for kdr. Think 10k is real without farming?
Entertaining
08-05-2012, 12:52 AM
I don't think anyone would believe it.
We all know who does, so tbh, I don't really care if they do.
exactly.
Well spotted Tankkaar, we know that he is pretty bad at PvP.
Nick41324
08-05-2012, 03:18 PM
Maybe it means exactly what he said? He told you to run (go away) then laughed at you. Like run xD
Swords
08-05-2012, 06:17 PM
It's gonna take him a LONG TIME...... To get on the leaderboards, give him peace and rights to do boring boost kills while we have fun pvping the right way :)
KingFu
08-05-2012, 07:31 PM
Better he stays out of PvP games and boosts, than sucks and acts like he owns everyone (50+% of the pvp community).
Fallen_Chisk_Angels
08-19-2012, 02:39 AM
Kinda feel bad for the dude now, wasnt right to post pic of him, especially in forums, if possible can u scribble his names to make it blurry so his name wont be readable?:sorrow:
Hadesofshadow
08-19-2012, 02:57 AM
the highest legit score ive seen is 120-0 by a lv5
AbsolutePally
08-19-2012, 02:17 PM
You know me. If I see a person who boosts/farms kills I will wreck on em and there isn't a thing they can do about it. Other than leave, boot me, or call in friends. And in that case, I either call i friends too or take em on 2/1 3/1 3/2. KDR isn't a thing, SOOO many people have "insulted" me by my KDR and been dead at my feet over and over again.
I may be a guild master, tournament and ladder leader, and known member of pvp/forum community - BUT I will not stand for certain things.
CrimsonTider
08-19-2012, 02:33 PM
Maybe, just maybe, the new OP Forgotten weapons were meant to demolish spawn killers and stat-boosters. Hmmmm....
Twinklaser
08-20-2012, 12:55 PM
Kdr doesn't determine skill, they might have a 250.0 kdr but I bet you can easily beat him,
Twinklaser
08-20-2012, 12:56 PM
Maybe, just maybe, the new OP Forgotten weapons were meant to demolish spawn killers and stat-boosters. Hmmmm....
The new weapons helps spawner ._.
PocketLegendsCaste
08-20-2012, 10:24 PM
Just make the high score boards into an active leaderboards.
What I mean is have people with high kdr face each other. Lets say if you're ranked x'th you have to face people +/- 100 your kdr. If you don't face them within a set amount of time lets say 2 weeks month then you're taken off the leaderboards. SO for example: if you're farming off a noob with negative kdr, those kills will count as inactivity. So it will force people to join real games and fight others.
So by implementing this people with legit KDR will stay at the top, and those who farm will drop quick off the boards.
Problem solved.
P.S. sts might have to implement this to 1-2 decimal places b/c i figure most people will be within single digits
EDIT: this will only solve the KDR leaderboards which I think if implemented will be more important than total kills.
that wouldn't work cuz the people on the leader boards will all be different lvls...a 30 facing a 60?
gundamsone
08-21-2012, 12:56 AM
What i'm suggesting is forcing those who want to stay on the boards to be active in PVP. Making a death toon and farming yourself or asking a friend will not count as being "active" b/c the kdr of that toon will be too low.
Subscriber
08-22-2012, 01:08 AM
He's slightly bad if he needs to do that.
Fallen_Chisk_Angels
09-01-2012, 06:37 AM
He's slightly bad if he needs to do that.
Slightly?
Chickenrunnn
09-04-2012, 10:42 AM
I have already posted something about it, giving a solution which could be done to avoid it.. Devs still didn't reply...
Here is the link to the solution : http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?67837-No-more-CTF-SPAWNING!-Suggestion!!!
It needs to get stopped ._.
WhoIsThis
09-04-2012, 05:29 PM
Maybe, just maybe, the new OP Forgotten weapons were meant to demolish spawn killers and stat-boosters. Hmmmm....
The new weapons helps spawner ._.
If anything they'd worsen the situation by reducing fight duration. Burst damage is very decisive in PvP. And it would make a booster's job easier by making kills faster.