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asommers
08-05-2022, 01:25 AM
Ok, continuing this thread (https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?641887-Feedback-Achievements-III-(Standard)), here's the list of new standard achievements which we've just finished implementing. We're keeping all existing achievements and adding these. Still figuring out the rewards and AP values (if any). There are new categories for Pet and Crafting. I'm thinking this will be out sometime next week.

Thanks to everyone that provided feedback. I'll create a new thread for Feats (zany achievements).

-ALS

Character

50k PvE Kills
100k PvE Kills
500k PvE Kills
1M PvE Kills
Maximum Inventory Slots
Maximum Crafting Inventory Slots
Maximum Furnishing Inventory Slots
Maximum Auction Slots
Maximum Stash Slots
Maximum Crafting Station Slots
35k APs
40k APs
45k APs
50k APs
55k APs
60k APs


Pet

Collected 300 Pets
Collected 400 Pets
Collected 50 Arcane pets!
Collected 100 Heroic pets!
Collected 150 Heroic pets!
Collected a Mythic pet!
Collected 10 Mythic pets!
Collected 25 Mythic pets!


Adventuring

Completed 10 Story Quests
Completed 20 Story Quests
Completed 50 Story Quests
Completed 100 Story Quests
Completed 10 Side Quests
Completed 20 Side Quests
Completed 50 Side Quests
Completed 100 Side Quests
Completed 200 Side Quests


Crafting

Crafted 10 items
Crafted 50 items
Crafted 100 items
Crafted 500 items
Crafted 1000 items
Upgraded 10 items
Upgraded 50 items
Upgraded 100 items
Upgraded 500 items
Upgraded 1000 items
Awakened (enhanced) your first piece of equipment!
Enhanced 10 items
Enhanced 50 items
Enhanced 100 items
Enhanced 500 items
Enhanced 1000 items


Assets

Looted 1,000 Gold (1K)
Looted 1,000,000 Gold (1M)
Looted 10,000 Gold (10K)
Looted 10,000,000 Gold (10M)
Looted 100,000 Gold (100K)
Looted 100,000,000 Gold (100M)
Looted 1,000,000,000 Gold (1B)


Housing

Own 500 house furnishing slots

asommers
08-05-2022, 01:27 AM
Reserved for future use.

Xuds
08-05-2022, 02:48 AM
1b gold looted [emoji55], I guess now would be a good time to bring back jarl or carnival?

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QuaseT
08-05-2022, 02:56 AM
Seems decent to me. Quite heavy on p2w aps via pets still but if Feats are being adressed in another thread and category I think this is alright to add.

Titanium
08-05-2022, 03:15 AM
If these are going to be added for hc seasonal it can be easily done by a plat user than someone who doesn’t have plat.

|Ares|
08-05-2022, 06:55 AM
1m pve kills in 2022 aka spamming Hauntlet for hours just to hit that for the sole purpose of hitting top player because no other zone apart from events, M4 and up and Elite zodias maps give the PvE kills.
At least keep it at 500k, auto checked aps for anyone that had kills done in the past - complete struggle for people that started playing after the removal of PVE kill counter in every area.
At least put the counter back everywhere since PVE kill Leaderboard has been removed from the game in season 9.

Story and side quests - Yes to that, makes people work to have these done in fair manner.

Maxed slots - gives the house slot energy and I dont think what makes it top player wise to have these maxed really.

150 heroics pets - put them in loot table everywhere then, not just locked crates, otherwise massive p2w included (90% of the heroic pets are NOT even in use by community)

Enhanced and upgraded items 1000 times - after the awakening event is kinda a bummer but somewhat doable.

APS that is about farming gold whereas it goes above the number of 10m farmed gold is just ridiculous, don't make gold farming as mandatory aspect of the game to stay on the leaderboard since people have been continuously asking for content that's about farming stuff in progress - not brainlessly grinding same map over and over again with maxed gold loot sets for sole purpose of just hoarding gold and spending it on better gold loot sets.

Repent
08-06-2022, 03:37 AM
Gold farming APs is ridiculous quite honestly. Might as well bring back pvp and pve kill lb too while at it.

flashio
08-06-2022, 06:40 AM
We've come this far with these aps "feedback" threads but ignored every feedback referring to adding more P2W, u might as well just stop with these and add whatever u feel like.

caabarader
08-06-2022, 06:56 AM
We've come this far with these aps "feedback" threads but ignored every feedback referring to adding more P2W, u might as well just stop with these and add whatever u feel like.Need to agree :/

papas
08-06-2022, 08:21 AM
All aps seems doable even will need more than one season. Basically u need grind gold. If u ll get 1b gold u can pay for every aps. No need do all in one season. For hc will be real challenging.
1m pve kills for ppl who run events is not hard. U can get 100-500k kills in every event which is energy based. If u farm ur energy and not buying kits. I seen hc getin 400k kills in one event. Also ppl stashed and saved house slots and heroic pets, 2eggsavier ago, in case new aps coming.
Note that it will be same hard for everyone.
I'm hope sts will bring more events like jarl and carnaval where u can loot hundreds of mills.


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|Ares|
08-06-2022, 08:47 AM
All aps seems doable even will need more than one season. Basically u need grind gold. If u ll get 1b gold u can pay for every aps. No need do all in one season. For hc will be real challenging.
1m pve kills for ppl who run events is not hard. U can get 100-500k kills in every event which is energy based. If u farm ur energy and not buying kits. I seen hc getin 400k kills in one event. Also ppl stashed and saved house slots and heroic pets, 2eggsavier ago, in case new aps coming.
Note that it will be same hard for everyone.
I'm hope sts will bring more events like jarl and carnaval where u can loot hundreds of mills.


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Did you just literally try to justify farming 1 billion gold as APS saying u just need "more than one season"?? What??
Imagine supporting the way this game is shifting lately gameplay wise at this point, ridiculous.
People don't want to farm gold, they want content that's making it actually worth to enter the maps

POV: You do 3k zodias portals and Ekenta with Mecharydon still drops literally nothing worth to be there.

papas
08-06-2022, 09:22 AM
I'm just saying my opinion. Farming gold is something that eventually will be accomplished. I personally am sure will be the last one between all in overall lb that will get that ap. Eventually tho I will get it.
Maybe cause I play hc sinse season 17 made me feel that is ok to wait for one year to farm eggsavier event for get 50heroic aps. And then wait one more year to get my next aps for 75heroics. Nothing MUST be done in 30days. As I said it is same for everyone. U can choose not to do it and u ll be on overall even without that ap.

But how u say that "ppl" don't want farm gold. I am pretty sure that there are tones of replies in many threads of "ppl" asking sts to make maps like elite valley, dm even maus drop same or even more gold that they used to....
U have ur opinion which I respect. U shared it as I did with mine. No need debate abt it.



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|Ares|
08-06-2022, 09:44 AM
I'm just saying my opinion. Farming gold is something that eventually will be accomplished. I personally am sure will be the last one between all in overall lb that will get that ap. Eventually tho I will get it.
Maybe cause I play hc sinse season 17 made me feel that is ok to wait for one year to farm eggsavier event for get 50heroic aps. And then wait one more year to get my next aps for 75heroics. Nothing MUST be done in 30days. As I said it is same for everyone. U can choose not to do it and u ll be on overall even without that ap.

But how u say that "ppl" don't want farm gold. I am pretty sure that there are tones of replies in many threads of "ppl" asking sts to make maps like elite valley, dm even maus drop same or even more gold that they used to....
U have ur opinion which I respect. U shared it as I did with mine. No need debate abt it.



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Hardcore got nothing to do with casual gameplay, comparison is out of the blue and completely irrelevant anyway.
Yeah dozens of people don't want to just sit in map and farm gold, it's boring, repetitive and gives as much fun as Farming Simulator sadly.

QuaseT
08-06-2022, 11:15 AM
Hardcore got nothing to do with casual gameplay, comparison is out of the blue and completely irrelevant anyway.
Yeah dozens of people don't want to just sit in map and farm gold, it's boring, repetitive and gives as much fun as Farming Simulator sadly.

Aps are designed for all players and not just the dozens you know. If gold farming is a chore, why is elite sunken the most popular map right now?

Kelyx
08-06-2022, 11:23 AM
Aps are designed for all players and not just the dozens you know. If gold farming is a chore, why is elite sunken the most popular map right now?Cause theres no maps to farm? They removed bosses in evg and dm is empty, do i need to say anything else? Lol

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QuaseT
08-06-2022, 11:57 AM
Cause theres no maps to farm? They removed bosses in evg and dm is empty, do i need to say anything else? Lol

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Exactly. They farm maps because of the gold. They love gold farming.

|Ares|
08-06-2022, 06:24 PM
Exactly. They farm maps because of the gold. They love gold farming.

No, they farm maps for gold cause there's literally no other content to go for, lol.

QuaseT
08-06-2022, 08:11 PM
No, they farm maps for gold cause there's literally no other content to go for, lol.

Yes they do that since lockeds of the watch.

Stephencobear
08-06-2022, 09:24 PM
Ptw apps are the opposite of an achievement

It looks like a money grab from those looking to get aps

Ik you need to make money but don’t lean on ppl who want to compete on lb
Ptw apps unnaturally split the lb into the haves & have nots

You already have hc, seasonal, & unnecessary auras for that

Nocturnus
08-06-2022, 10:43 PM
Everything looks pretty good except farming 1b gold that could take up to 1 year or more for most players, sounds more like a feat achievement.

papas
08-07-2022, 12:23 AM
Ptw apps are the opposite of an achievement

It looks like a money grab from those looking to get aps

Ik you need to make money but don’t lean on ppl who want to compete on lb
Ptw apps unnaturally split the lb into the haves & have nots

You already have hc, seasonal, & unnecessary auras for thatIf someone really cares abt banner and badge of overall lb u can get all aps through gold. No need pay real money. I know many have completed house slots and pets while no jarl/eggsavier events. They grinded gold tho on any map available at that time. It is doable. U think all those top overall players spend 1.5k plats to get house slots? I think none did. Even in hc ppl grind gold on main and using platinum eggs. Ppl have revived hc with platinum eggs. There are alot of ways to get platinum other than spend real money.
Ofc many also spending real money to get plats and they have an advantage on those aps. But still it's not impossible for no money users.


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Sulphurea
08-07-2022, 01:56 AM
It's funny you all still bothers to give any sort of opinion to sts lmao like there has to be some sort of bug in comunication cause they never ever listen anything of what community says. For me 150 heroics is completely nuts, same as gold aps, is just a pathetic strategy to make people open more useless locks. I did my best to make top player lb, grinded like crazy in past season but i feel like there is kinda no point anymore cause all they want i do is spending money, i completely agree with Ares, hc can't even be considered cause is already completely p2w lmao and me i would like to run other maps than just gold farm. Like i grinded alot to max my points in zodias and become zodias champion but for exactly what point?? Was useless. All rest of content is lb timed runs and if you don't have op awakes you don't go far there. So yes ofc i gold farm cause i literally have nothing else to do since i need only ekenta and is always closed. These aps are entirely disappointing for me and they make me another step away from this game i used to like but that day by day is losing all my love

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papas
08-07-2022, 02:44 AM
Hey dear Ila . Considering aps like house slots and heroic/arcane pets. I think these are what u say is completely p2w aps for hc. I myself run 3-4 (not sure) eggsavier events to get those aps, I didn't open many crates maybe 20 totally. I still have 74 heroics next time I ll get that 75heroic aps np. Also just last jarl event I looted like 120-130 house slots. So big progress can be done without spending any platinum. Just need good tips from experiensed players. Some unlocked in the past had good chanses of platinum +arc/muth gears.
In addition maybe u can take ur spouse as an example. He is in top overall hc lb. How much real money has he spend?
All aps are doable. Just we won't see any seasonals completing all aps in one season. It is same for everyone. Very hard achievements to get. Loot 1B gold? Impossible for me to get. But I will slowly do it. I know u alrd have bought heroic eggs some seasons ago to be ready for new aps. You expected that. House slots same ig.
As I mentioned before I agree ppl able to spend real money have a great advantage. But maybe u should think twice before being so absolute.
Hope u doing well cheers.

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MagnusMade
08-07-2022, 03:02 AM
Cant wait new update. Cheer

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Sulphurea
08-07-2022, 04:34 AM
My spouse and i are in top yes but surely not cause of our gear lmao we have good friends that helped us alot, even rn. Sure we grinded elite maps etc but without help of geared people we would have no gone anywhere. Ofc i'm not stupid and i grinded every events that could gimme an advantage for lb, i'm even ok with 100 heroics but 150 is a true scam. To make 400 pets you gonna be forced to buy them in any case. But in all this where is the sense of "achievement"? Sure, i can spend my gold. But what this leaves me? Absolutely nothing. 1k boss is hella boring but at least there is some sort of work behind it. And i talk from a perspective in which i don't have bad position. I have 50 arcanes, i have 100+ heroics, i have 500 house slots and so on. But yk what i'm more proud of? Of 1k mecha, 1k rahab, 1k greensap etc, cause took alot of mental commitment for me that i'm not a kid anymore. I'm very disappointed in everything about this game

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papas
08-07-2022, 05:08 AM
Being in overall hc lb is cause of personal grind mostly. Harder achievements I agree it would not be possible without op pt. But hey that's what friends and guilds are for. Am not talkin abt one run aps like naked hydra(which can be carried). Hc needs lot of patiense like u n ur spouse had, to achieve top.
Just wanted make clear that hc lb is not 100% p2w like u mentioned earlier.
Being disappointed from game, well that's another issue. I understand how u feel.

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|Ares|
08-07-2022, 07:23 AM
Being in overall hc lb is cause of personal grind mostly. Harder achievements I agree it would not be possible without op pt. But hey that's what friends and guilds are for. Am not talkin abt one run aps like naked hydra(which can be carried). Hc needs lot of patiense like u n ur spouse had, to achieve top.
Just wanted make clear that hc lb is not 100% p2w like u mentioned earlier.
Being disappointed from game, well that's another issue. I understand how u feel.

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Hardcore is p2w, I've done that mode myself and tried little money spend or even none to try and keep up with other players - eventually becomes impossible. You either can't do some stuff yourself or you get help from players that have already spent the money on it. Advantages exist in every aspect of Arcane Legends at this point and saying otherwise is just wrong.
Support the game, of course I do that myself - cosmetics, events, auras and even open locked crates sometimes. Necessary pay to go lootboxes to obtain best items, RNG awakenings (to even get those gold loot items), no useful loot content maps (confirmed that current mythic gears are better than zodias ancient items - therefore people still farming gold only) for people that genuinely play the game - it's a no.

There is no way someone is gonna say that what I'm trying to point out here is unreasonable, constructive criticism is what Devs usually expect from us but eventually it's becoming frustrating when the feedback is not fully considered without implying the p2w aspect.
I finished the Zodias aps last season, it took a lot of time but I stayed focused to finish it and was happy to in the end get myself even at least that vanity bow as form of reward. It's just what Sulphurea said above, it took some mental and makes it worth.
Shifting the game towards 1 sense of gameplay that pushes another culture that exploits wallets (or at least looks like it) is just not good.

This is my honest take, agree with it or not don't say that anything I said is unreasonable.

Stephencobear
08-07-2022, 08:11 AM
@ Papas
I never said it couldn’t be done without spending money ( & a few years of free time not interrupted by a job)
I said it was an obvious cash grab

I agree w Ares & Sulphurea above

papas
08-07-2022, 08:47 AM
@ Papas
I never said it couldn’t be done without spending money ( & a few years of free time not interrupted by a job)
I said it was an obvious cash grab

I agree w Ares & Sulphurea aboveDidn't mean to personally go against ur opinion. Maybe I misunderstood what u said.
Most aps indeed need hell of free time and op pt(tanks), and often get boring in the end.


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Stephencobear
08-07-2022, 09:02 AM
Didn't mean to personally go against ur opinion. Maybe I misunderstood what u said.

You are absolutely free to disagree if you do, there’s nothing wrong with that

I’d rather achievements be about skill & strategy ( pants down & lich consternation ex)
Having rl $ isn’t an achievement

papas
08-07-2022, 09:16 AM
Hardcore is p2w, I've done that mode myself and tried little money spend or even none to try and keep up with other players - eventually becomes impossible. You either can't do some stuff yourself or you get help from players that have already spent the money on it. Advantages exist in every aspect of Arcane Legends at this point and saying otherwise is just wrong.
Support the game, of course I do that myself - cosmetics, events, auras and even open locked crates sometimes. Necessary pay to go lootboxes to obtain best items, RNG awakenings (to even get those gold loot items), no useful loot content maps (confirmed that current mythic gears are better than zodias ancient items - therefore people still farming gold only) for people that genuinely play the game - it's a no.

There is no way someone is gonna say that what I'm trying to point out here is unreasonable, constructive criticism is what Devs usually expect from us but eventually it's becoming frustrating when the feedback is not fully considered without implying the p2w aspect.
I finished the Zodias aps last season, it took a lot of time but I stayed focused to finish it and was happy to in the end get myself even at least that vanity bow as form of reward. It's just what Sulphurea said above, it took some mental and makes it worth.
Shifting the game towards 1 sense of gameplay that pushes another culture that exploits wallets (or at least looks like it) is just not good.

This is my honest take, agree with it or not don't say that anything I said is unreasonable.What u saying in ur first paragraph I alrd said it myself. Ofc u need support by others for hard aps.I also mentioned more than once that ppl using real money and plats have a huge advantage against f2p ppl. But ur saying I'm saying otherwise? U have shared ur opinion clearly. I have shared mine clearly too tbh. That's it!
If u can't understand what I'm saying then is ok too. I mentioned playing hc made be patient and have np of waiting 2seasons to finish one ap. Maybe now is clear for you. You can see more than one agree w u. No need everyone do the same.
No need us make more useless replying here. Is not constructive at all.

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Oawaoebi
08-07-2022, 09:34 AM
1b gold can be farmed in 30 days when u go hard.
1m pve is also doable just look at the event runners.
Pet and house aps are definitely buyable after the goldfarm.
Not everybody is supposed to reach all aps bc it would reduce the worth of it. When people dislike about the new aps a lot. You won’t need them all to stay on overall lb. Or just skip few seasons.

When I learned smth in my life it’s that those people who complain the most are the laziest to put in any effort.

This game absolutely is not p2w. All you want is achievable f2p. P2w is just speeding up the progress as it’s supposed to do and it does. It’s absolutely fine. No one is forced to buy or not buy any in game advantage packs such as platinum.

There’s many other ways to make gold than merching opening crates or farming in sunken or (begging).

It’s always the same like in other games or in sports who remembers Yao Yao from coc? He was the outstanding number 1 for such a long time and never unbeaten bc he worked hard for it. In sports as soccer you have many great players but even a Ronaldo is going to be beaten by a younger player who is more hungry who wants it more.

My point is the top doesn’t stay the same it’s switching lazy people will fall down and newer hungrier player who desires their gold will achieve it till they get lazy and others come. That’s the game. Maybe this helps to accept.

Grinding useless maps so often yes it’s annoying but when ppl are willed to run the 5% more effort than others they deserve the spot.

Everybody can complain but not everybody wants to work for it. Remember ur school career those who didn’t wanted left school early and the hungry ppl who wanted more in their life’s and learn smth they did not quitted.

Stay focus hungry and have fun in the game.

None forced anyone to do aps


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QuaseT
08-07-2022, 10:28 AM
1b gold can be farmed in 30 days when u go hard.
1m pve is also doable just look at the event runners.
Pet and house aps are definitely buyable after the goldfarm.
Not everybody is supposed to reach all aps bc it would reduce the worth of it. When people dislike about the new aps a lot. You won’t need them all to stay on overall lb. Or just skip few seasons.

When I learned smth in my life it’s that those people who complain the most are the laziest to put in any effort.

This game absolutely is not p2w. All you want is achievable f2p. P2w is just speeding up the progress as it’s supposed to do and it does. It’s absolutely fine. No one is forced to buy or not buy any in game advantage packs such as platinum.

There’s many other ways to make gold than merching opening crates or farming in sunken or (begging).

It’s always the same like in other games or in sports who remembers Yao Yao from coc? He was the outstanding number 1 for such a long time and never unbeaten bc he worked hard for it. In sports as soccer you have many great players but even a Ronaldo is going to be beaten by a younger player who is more hungry who wants it more.

My point is the top doesn’t stay the same it’s switching lazy people will fall down and newer hungrier player who desires their gold will achieve it till they get lazy and others come. That’s the game. Maybe this helps to accept.

Grinding useless maps so often yes it’s annoying but when ppl are willed to run the 5% more effort than others they deserve the spot.

Everybody can complain but not everybody wants to work for it. Remember ur school career those who didn’t wanted left school early and the hungry ppl who wanted more in their life’s and learn smth they did not quitted.

Stay focus hungry and have fun in the game.

None forced anyone to do aps


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I agree. Grinding maps is an essential part of the game and there are players (myself included) who like to play maps over and over again. Aps like 1k elite bosses or the 1b gold farming are some kind of filler between more "tryhard" aps of the game. Quite interesting that opinions are so different about that between actual lb players. I dont see why this doesnt deserve aps aswell as other goals. Wouldnt want only this category of aps - neither only a single other category of aps. I would personally like to see players on the lb who actually like playing the current expansion. Someone who doesnt play daily shouldnt be within the top25. Thats what I think about the top players lb. We need as many different aps as possible for that. I have the impression that people only like aps added which they can achieve easily personally. I just hope asommers extracts that from the feedback. And yes, if you dont like any aps you can just skip it.

Marosok
08-07-2022, 11:38 AM
Aps for farming gold is good idea. It requires playing maps, which is what aps should be about. More aps like this, and less aps from category "sit in town and buy it".

|Ares|
08-07-2022, 12:59 PM
1b gold can be farmed in 30 days when u go hard.
1m pve is also doable just look at the event runners.
Pet and house aps are definitely buyable after the goldfarm.
Not everybody is supposed to reach all aps bc it would reduce the worth of it. When people dislike about the new aps a lot. You won’t need them all to stay on overall lb. Or just skip few seasons.

When I learned smth in my life it’s that those people who complain the most are the laziest to put in any effort.

This game absolutely is not p2w. All you want is achievable f2p. P2w is just speeding up the progress as it’s supposed to do and it does. It’s absolutely fine. No one is forced to buy or not buy any in game advantage packs such as platinum.

There’s many other ways to make gold than merching opening crates or farming in sunken or (begging).

It’s always the same like in other games or in sports who remembers Yao Yao from coc? He was the outstanding number 1 for such a long time and never unbeaten bc he worked hard for it. In sports as soccer you have many great players but even a Ronaldo is going to be beaten by a younger player who is more hungry who wants it more.

My point is the top doesn’t stay the same it’s switching lazy people will fall down and newer hungrier player who desires their gold will achieve it till they get lazy and others come. That’s the game. Maybe this helps to accept.

Grinding useless maps so often yes it’s annoying but when ppl are willed to run the 5% more effort than others they deserve the spot.

Everybody can complain but not everybody wants to work for it. Remember ur school career those who didn’t wanted left school early and the hungry ppl who wanted more in their life’s and learn smth they did not quitted.

Stay focus hungry and have fun in the game.

None forced anyone to do aps


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Yeah I want to see you having the gold aps done in 30 days when this gets implemented (maybe throw a twitch stream of u farming it even for 30 days), coming from same source that would afk in portal maps in order to get any bit of aps done.

Repent
08-08-2022, 03:08 AM
To start I would like to address some misconceptions that hc players have sorry papas but when you state "U think all those top overall players spend 1.5k plats to get house slots? I think none did" That is an incorrect statement because I myself spent plat 1.5k plat for those slots because when I maxed my APs Jarl event was not during that season. And also all of my pet and other Aps that weren't just useless grind 1k boss APs I spent plat or converted plat to gold to achieve faster such as buying rare bosses etc...

Also this game has slowly become more and more p2w as the years go on there used to be a way to loot items from bosses such as eggs and locks which could be sold at a good price to these p2w players. Now we have events every 2 weeks or so that introduce locks into the store and the items that drop from events zone become dirt cheap after a couple days take for example the previous forgotten vanity event.

Hardcore and normal gameplay cannot be compared at all. Don't try to apply a hc mindset which is to be patient and prepared and to think long term without rushing to normal gameplay which has become fast-paced and quite chaotic. There should be different achievements for hc and normal mode IMO but ofc that won't be implemented due to whatever reason sts wants to give this time.

Gold farming has become the only thing to do in this game because there is NOTHING ELSE TO DO. Arcane legends is a grinding mmorpg game that requires time to be successful in it but there should be multiple ways to achieve success rather than p2w and gold farm or the classic stand in towns and merch.

We need new APs that require skill to obtain like it was stated earlier similar to the pantless achievements which are easy now since a strategy has been formed over the years. We do not need more meaningless grind 1k bosses and we for sure don't need farm 1B gold.

I myself don't play anymore only log in and chat for a bit or test new events every now and then hoping for some fun but I find myself disappointed again and again sadly. While there has been amazing feedback from devs recently and a lot of great changes to this game there needs to be some sort of skill based gameplay that other games have. Rather than who has better awakes on their gear. Pvp was skill based until awakes were introduced but that can't be changed and honor quite honestly sucks you don't even count pvp kills for gods sake.

There are so many great aspects of this game but as the developers of this game there seems to be a tunnel vision for profit and meaningless grinding without any sort of skill involved. We need a change. - Atoned

Justbadwolf
08-08-2022, 12:51 PM
I agree with the jist of all these new aps but at the same time i would like one of the devs to elaborate how to farm 1b gold in current scenario.
I think farming is necessary to survive in this game even without APs, if devs want to add the competitive element to it then they also should think of non- spending players too.

papas
08-08-2022, 01:12 PM
To start I would like to address some misconceptions that hc players have sorry papas but when you state "U think all those top overall players spend 1.5k plats to get house slots? I think none did" That is an incorrect statement because I myself spent plat 1.5k plat for those slots because when I maxed my APs Jarl event was not during that season. And also all of my pet and other Aps that weren't just useless grind 1k boss APs I spent plat or converted plat to gold to achieve faster such as buying rare bosses etc...

Also this game has slowly become more and more p2w as the years go on there used to be a way to loot items from bosses such as eggs and locks which could be sold at a good price to these p2w players. Now we have events every 2 weeks or so that introduce locks into the store and the items that drop from events zone become dirt cheap after a couple days take for example the previous forgotten vanity event.

Hardcore and normal gameplay cannot be compared at all. Don't try to apply a hc mindset which is to be patient and prepared and to think long term without rushing to normal gameplay which has become fast-paced and quite chaotic. There should be different achievements for hc and normal mode IMO but ofc that won't be implemented due to whatever reason sts wants to give this time.

Gold farming has become the only thing to do in this game because there is NOTHING ELSE TO DO. Arcane legends is a grinding mmorpg game that requires time to be successful in it but there should be multiple ways to achieve success rather than p2w and gold farm or the classic stand in towns and merch.

We need new APs that require skill to obtain like it was stated earlier similar to the pantless achievements which are easy now since a strategy has been formed over the years. We do not need more meaningless grind 1k bosses and we for sure don't need farm 1B gold.

I myself don't play anymore only log in and chat for a bit or test new events every now and then hoping for some fun but I find myself disappointed again and again sadly. While there has been amazing feedback from devs recently and a lot of great changes to this game there needs to be some sort of skill based gameplay that other games have. Rather than who has better awakes on their gear. Pvp was skill based until awakes were introduced but that can't be changed and honor quite honestly sucks you don't even count pvp kills for gods sake.

There are so many great aspects of this game but as the developers of this game there seems to be a tunnel vision for profit and meaningless grinding without any sort of skill involved. We need a change. - AtonedHey Jr. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I meant noone on normal mode overall lb use plats to get those house slots. Ofc all hc got those aps spent plats for those. At least most of em.
And ofc some in normal mode could have done with plats. My point is that this housing aps should not be considered in "p2w section" sinse majority spend gold and not payed w real money to get it.

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Avaree
08-08-2022, 01:21 PM
Speaking of APs can the zod rare bosses be a little less rare?

|Ares|
08-08-2022, 08:45 PM
Speaking of APs can the zod rare bosses be a little less rare?

*screams in not finding Midas for 3 months straight*

asommers
08-10-2022, 10:54 AM
Thanks for all the feedback!

This change is now live. See this thread (https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?647790-2022-08-10-Content-Update-(294304)).

-ALS