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Ploid
08-25-2022, 11:06 AM
Hi,

It feels really bad to use mage in Elite zodias Portals. There are very few mobs there to use our procs effectively to kill bosses.

Rogues and Warriors do a lot more damage where I end up tickling the bosses.

Mages were op when they could proc stack Aquaris + Ebon Armor at will. (Dropping clock at a group of mobs, run to boss, change gears and nuke it)

It's really hard to proc Aquaris + Ebon Armor together in Zodias Portals which in turn makes Mages way weaker than other classes.




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caabarader
08-25-2022, 11:42 AM
Hi,

It feels really bad to use mage in Elite zodias Portals. There are very few mobs there to use our procs effectively to kill bosses.

Rogues and Warriors do a lot more damage where I end up tickling the bosses.

Mages were op when they could proc stack Aquaris + Ebon Armor at will. (Dropping clock at a group of mobs, run to boss, change gears and nuke it)

It's really hard to proc Aquaris + Ebon Armor together in Zodias Portals which in turn makes Mages way weaker than other classes.




Sent from my GM1913 using TapatalkGuess what it need is a weapon to kill bosses easier, since hyperos doesn't do a good work as should(dodge, too many charge needed).
Maybe with arcanes weapons mages receive it.

Greazemk
08-25-2022, 12:49 PM
Ah I see the problem. Rogues can deal good damage on bosses with/without ult and they can also handle fairly large amount of mobs.
Warriors on the other hand they rip bosses but they suck at clearing mobs, at least in Zodias campaign maps.
Notts however, it's obvious it is their job to clear mobs, but struggles at direct boss fights.

I'd like to suggest that instead of buffing them, Arcane 81 weapon procs are still a mystery, why don't they make them have a guaranteed proc chance or incredibly high chance to proc with high cooldown?

Xuds
08-25-2022, 01:28 PM
Mage just needs a boss weapon because hyperos is really unreliable

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Ploid
08-26-2022, 05:18 AM
Ah I see the problem. Rogues can deal good damage on bosses with/without ult and they can also handle fairly large amount of mobs.
Warriors on the other hand they rip bosses but they suck at clearing mobs, at least in Zodias campaign maps.
Notts however, it's obvious it is their job to clear mobs, but struggles at direct boss fights.

I'd like to suggest that instead of buffing them, Arcane 81 weapon procs are still a mystery, why don't they make them have a guaranteed proc chance or incredibly high chance to proc with high cooldown?The damage of hyperos isn't nearly enough. Need buffs on it.

Firstly, it takes too long to proc, and even if it procs barely any damage.

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Adek Nakal
08-26-2022, 09:58 AM
every class has advantage and disadvantage while mage cant proc properly due to lack of mobs in portal boss but they do can proc effectively in map such as sunken.

championboost
08-26-2022, 11:50 AM
cant believe mages want a buff

Xuds
08-26-2022, 12:02 PM
cant believe mages want a buffWhy do you only comment on discussion threads about class/weapon balances to complain?

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championboost
08-26-2022, 04:37 PM
Why do you only comment on discussion threads about class/weapon balances to complain?

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why do you stalk me

Greazemk
08-26-2022, 05:32 PM
why do you stalk me

No one stalks you, you are everywhere.

Ploid
08-27-2022, 03:45 AM
every class has advantage and disadvantage while mage cant proc properly due to lack of mobs in portal boss but they do can proc effectively in map such as sunken.Yes, but Rogue have easy time clearing at Sunken too.

And warrior are OP both in Sunken and Portal bosses. So what's the point of Mages?

I see warriors onehitting both minibosses and bosses in Sunken. Mages barely tickle.

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Observing
08-27-2022, 03:54 AM
If any dev is reading this all I ask is that you don't make the arc weapon charge proc like hyper gun

Immortal_Blood
08-27-2022, 05:42 AM
Hi,

It feels really bad to use mage in Elite zodias Portals. There are very few mobs there to use our procs effectively to kill bosses.

Rogues and Warriors do a lot more damage where I end up tickling the bosses.

Mages were op when they could proc stack Aquaris + Ebon Armor at will. (Dropping clock at a group of mobs, run to boss, change gears and nuke it)

It's really hard to proc Aquaris + Ebon Armor together in Zodias Portals which in turn makes Mages way weaker than other classes.




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i see. mages need 1 more skill subskill replaced with a dot skill then? but mage already has 3 or more.. maybe the chance for DoT is low??

Adek Nakal
08-27-2022, 06:08 AM
Yes, but Rogue have easy time clearing at Sunken too.

And warrior are OP both in Sunken and Portal bosses. So what's the point of Mages?

I see warriors onehitting both minibosses and bosses in Sunken. Mages barely tickle.

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you either not op or dont actually know how to play watch this,no war to 1 shot the boss btw bc war dont have time to charge.
https://youtu.be/ZMkv9984ZLE

Ploid
08-27-2022, 09:35 AM
you either not op or dont actually know how to play watch this,no war to 1 shot the boss btw bc war dont have time to charge.
https://youtu.be/ZMkv9984ZLEBro you literally missed the whole point of the post?

If you read OP, you could see I was mainly talk about portal bosses.

Sure Mages are strong if you have double procs, but it's hard to double proc against portal bosses when there are no mobs nearby.

1.5k STR warrior with Nepta can kill bosses instantly in Elite Sunken, I have 2.1k int, I don't do much damage without double procs.


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Crystalwiz
08-27-2022, 10:01 AM
Hypo proc is the worst to use. To auto hit the boss 2 times with a charged weapon and not hit mobs all around is frustrating, it takes too long and many times will die during the process. You fixed other mythic weapons that had problems procing but have done nothing to the hypo gun even though many have complained about how hard it is to proc.

Synergia
08-27-2022, 10:39 AM
Ploid mages very good rn and trust me rogue can't do even close to same damage mages do in PvE
You think its hard procing on boss?
Try be a rogue who has very bad AoE, DoT, and a weapon that is require charge attacks and can not be proced with skills
and dont even get me started about Rogue trash ultimates

Ploid
08-27-2022, 10:53 AM
Ploid mages very good rn and trust me rogue can't do even close to same damage mages do in PvE
You think its hard procing on boss?
Try be a rogue who has very bad AoE, DoT, and a weapon that is require charge attacks and can not be proced with skills
and dont even get me started about Rogue trash ultimatesRogue bow proc is as hard to proc as mage gun on bosses. Once Procced, I see me doing less damage with hyperos than rog do with Marianos.

I completely agree that Rog ults are the worst, but again I am strictly talking about portal bosses, how many times do we use ult there?

I haven't played as rog myself yet, but whenever I see "the bends" or Marianos proc it always does more damage than what I can dish out with just Aquaris or Hyperos proc even if the rog has less dex than I have int.

Mages are very good, but only when they get to proc Aquaris and Ebon together (the reason why Mages dominated DM and EVG)

I am not asking for Aquaris buff, no, its strong enough as it is, but the Hyperos damage leaves much to be desired.

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Synergia
08-27-2022, 12:04 PM
Rogue bow proc is as hard to proc as mage gun on bosses. Once Procced, I see me doing less damage with hyperos than rog do with Marianos.

I completely agree that Rog ults are the worst, but again I am strictly talking about portal bosses, how many times do we use ult there?

I haven't played as rog myself yet, but whenever I see "the bends" or Marianos proc it always does more damage than what I can dish out with just Aquaris or Hyperos proc even if the rog has less dex than I have int.

Mages are very good, but only when they get to proc Aquaris and Ebon together (the reason why Mages dominated DM and EVG)

I am not asking for Aquaris buff, no, its strong enough as it is, but the Hyperos damage leaves much to be desired.

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I mean yeah, I see what you mean but don't forget that the gun is OP when used with "Energize" ultimate.
with bow its indeed the same proc rate, only that you get 3 shots max, no matter how much haste you get changes it
in around 30 days arcanes wil be out anyway so