Drop rates and such…

[Oouh No]

These past 2-3 events have just ate through some of these players (including myself) wallets. Ive spent at-least 30k plat over the last 2-3 months and have received little to no rewards, not only that… but countless hours farming the events just to waste the tokens on unlocked crates and getting absolutely nothing more then a 1k gold exchange rate. Typically when new items are released, you expect them to ya know…drop somewhere. But this event the kraken daggers have turned into the lepre banner of 2015 rarity. Yes they are insane, yes they are op, and yes they are new.. that’s exactly why players that have devoted the time and money should atleast reap the benefits of it. It shouldnt take 600 lock openings to receive one arcane with a value of probably 100m.. that’s literally 300 crates at 15 plat each=4500 plat… just shy of $300USD! Like come on seriously? Dead game title? Recolored vanities since 2017? Game developers coming on to turn into palm trees and coconuts and walking around the map? Making last minute updates that ruin the experience of LB runners? Creating daggers that one tap any boss in the game? Meaningless Random “:/“ public chats from devs that have little to no importance? These are all things that have your players including myself.. questioning the time spent on the game and worth of it in the long run. Its all positive feedback, trying to spare the time of other players,keep them playing, and save the revenue of the company to keep your pockets smiling! Ily guys.. but professionalism, gratitude, and commitment to your critical assets we can all agree would be amazing to sustain in AL.


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[Nexior]

No worries we all good with rogue dominating all lbs xD

#rogue81

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[Urdookie07]

These past 2-3 events have just ate through some of these players (including myself) wallets. Ive spent at-least 30k plat over the last 2-3 months and have received little to no rewards, not only that… but countless hours farming the events just to waste the tokens on unlocked crates and getting absolutely nothing more then a 1k gold exchange rate. Typically when new items are released, you expect them to ya know…drop somewhere. But this event the kraken daggers have turned into the lepre banner of 2015 rarity. Yes they are insane, yes they are op, and yes they are new.. that’s exactly why players that have devoted the time and money should atleast reap the benefits of it. It shouldnt take 600 lock openings to receive one arcane with a value of probably 100m.. that’s literally 300 crates at 15 plat each=4500 plat… just shy of $300USD! Like come on seriously? Dead game title? Recolored vanities since 2017? Game developers coming on to turn into palm trees and coconuts and walking around the map? Making last minute updates that ruin the experience of LB runners? Creating daggers that one tap any boss in the game? Meaningless Random “:/“ public chats from devs that have little to no importance? These are all things that have your players including myself.. questioning the time spent on the game and worth of it in the long run. Its all positive feedback, trying to spare the time of other players,keep them playing, and save the revenue of the company to keep your pockets smiling! Ily guys.. but professionalism, gratitude, and commitment to your critical assets we can all agree would be amazing to sustain in AL.


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I agree on the crates, $380 hard earned money spent on plat for locked crates and only 1 arcane weapon


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[Sakura Bushido]

Over 18k plat on locked rogue only + 600 pulls 15 plat chest. My loot was hanfull mytics worth 30m total + 1 arcane drop containing 1mil gold.

This could be spended on 10x deadpool aura giving me roughly 800m+,

Choose to open crates in hopes for more new weapons but drop rates shows it isn't fair....

Wy there is no 300 guarantee on a 100% price increased chest makes me wonder.

Certainly last time il spend plat on locks certainly last time il invest alot of money into this game.

Sended multiple mails to get this checked out.

Its alot of pulls for guarantee nothing

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[Synergia]

You guys just gotta remember one thing-
Locks are evil

I learned that the hard way during the years

[PostNoob]

Once i seen they added guaranteed loot that only tells you how incredibly bad the drop rates are.

People actually think they will loot something from the puny Unlocked crates they give out on every event now. Ill save you some trouble, Unlock Crate Rewards are bad rewards and you won't loot anything

Until people stop gambling their money away sts is going to think you like it this way. If you don't then stop.

[Ketx]

These past 2-3 events have just ate through some of these players (including myself) wallets. Ive spent at-least 30k plat over the last 2-3 months and have received little to no rewards, not only that… but countless hours farming the events just to waste the tokens on unlocked crates and getting absolutely nothing more then a 1k gold exchange rate. Typically when new items are released, you expect them to ya know…drop somewhere. But this event the kraken daggers have turned into the lepre banner of 2015 rarity. Yes they are insane, yes they are op, and yes they are new.. that’s exactly why players that have devoted the time and money should atleast reap the benefits of it. It shouldnt take 600 lock openings to receive one arcane with a value of probably 100m.. that’s literally 300 crates at 15 plat each=4500 plat… just shy of $300USD! Like come on seriously? Dead game title? Recolored vanities since 2017? Game developers coming on to turn into palm trees and coconuts and walking around the map? Making last minute updates that ruin the experience of LB runners? Creating daggers that one tap any boss in the game? Meaningless Random “:/“ public chats from devs that have little to no importance? These are all things that have your players including myself.. questioning the time spent on the game and worth of it in the long run. Its all positive feedback, trying to spare the time of other players,keep them playing, and save the revenue of the company to keep your pockets smiling! Ily guys.. but professionalism, gratitude, and commitment to your critical assets we can all agree would be amazing to sustain in AL.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalkthe game is going a way of p2w. thats kinda mechanic of the game

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[Sakura Bushido]

If its p2w, investing 1300 euro and looting 30m doesn't really sounds fair. Free Players looted better.

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[Xuds]

chance to loot something

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[Ketx]

yes, thats what p2w feels like.P2w is spending money on a game to get to the valuable items or gears out of it no matter how much money did you spend on it.

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[Ploid]

If its p2w, investing 1300 euro and looting 30m doesn't really sounds fair. Free Players looted better.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G996B met TapatalkOpen the locks with guaranteed loot.

Again, what would u do if u opened 1 lock and looted arcane?

It doesn't sound fair, does it?

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[Vrazicak]

These past 2-3 events have just ate through some of these players (including myself) wallets. Ive spent at-least 30k plat over the last 2-3 months and have received little to no rewards, not only that… but countless hours farming the events just to waste the tokens on unlocked crates and getting absolutely nothing more then a 1k gold exchange rate. Typically when new items are released, you expect them to ya know…drop somewhere. But this event the kraken daggers have turned into the lepre banner of 2015 rarity. Yes they are insane, yes they are op, and yes they are new.. that’s exactly why players that have devoted the time and money should atleast reap the benefits of it. It shouldnt take 600 lock openings to receive one arcane with a value of probably 100m.. that’s literally 300 crates at 15 plat each=4500 plat… just shy of $300USD! Like come on seriously? Dead game title? Recolored vanities since 2017? Game developers coming on to turn into palm trees and coconuts and walking around the map? Making last minute updates that ruin the experience of LB runners? Creating daggers that one tap any boss in the game? Meaningless Random “:/“ public chats from devs that have little to no importance? These are all things that have your players including myself.. questioning the time spent on the game and worth of it in the long run. Its all positive feedback, trying to spare the time of other players,keep them playing, and save the revenue of the company to keep your pockets smiling! Ily guys.. but professionalism, gratitude, and commitment to your critical assets we can all agree would be amazing to sustain in AL.


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You put it together so well. +1!

[Sakura Bushido]

Its p2l, did 2x guarantee. Loot 2x myt body. Open 900 rogue only should expect atleast also guarantee on 100% price increase lock.

If u loot on 1 lock congratulations! Another amazing piece available to the game.

Not asking for return asking to look into the balance... Try it yourself! Support your developers

[Pulaxgang]

Stand up as a community and stop investing pocket money into this game and only give your time. Until they start pulling their finger out their behinds, I’ve been emailing support about this shiiiii for years and all the recommend is to make a forum post about it. Make a post just to get humiliated from this toxic community.

Revamps will always happen from here on out, the developers are lazy and useless. They can’t even do a community design challenge for future event vanities.

[Oakmaiden]

There is only 1 way to prove how you feel about locked crates. STOP BUYING THEM. Ranting here doesn’t make much impact if you keep dropping $100s of dollars. Seriously.

[Fahtsssss]

There is only 1 way to prove how you feel about locked crates. STOP BUYING THEM. Ranting here doesn’t make much impact if you keep dropping $100s of dollars. Seriously.

+1 ... I've never spent a dime on this game lmao, I would hate to blow $100 for a mythic belt worth 500k
Ign- Kinnq

[Kaziscate]

I already posted about my sentiments on locks and drop rates, but I'll share them here:


It's been kinda frustrating with how high-end gear availability is. It's always really fun and exciting to try new pieces of gear, but it really sucks that we have to wait months just for those new pieces of gear to drop down to a fairly reasonable price. Of course I'm not saying that arcane/mythic gear should be given out like candy, but I just don't think it is fun going through this cycle of constantly waiting on top of waiting. There is a place for crazy rare items, but I'd prefer if that stays on cosmetics and emphasized a bit less on gear.


the rng is a reoccurring and frustrating issue that has lingered with locks for years and is what discourages players from opening them. If you spend 1700-3400 platinum and you don’t get an arcane item that is a problem. I understand that money needs to be made, but that is a really big investment for 1 item and that must be respected. Mythics are really cheap now. I don’t remember if they are lootable in elite zodias, but if they are not, put them in the loot pool, and rework how the guaranteed loot system works. Something like every 100 pulls you get an ingredient. 1 of this ingredient allows you to craft a mythic chest, and 3 for an arcane chest or a heroic chest.

What bums me out is that we probably won't get any dev response here on forums since it seems like they don't respond to feedback concerning locks and drop rates (probably for investor reasons). I do wish we had more transparency on this. Lock rng has plagued the game since the very beginning (10 years!) and it's been an unaddressed problem for WAY too long. I want to support this game, but locks make that difficult when it feels like I'm spending money on nothing. Opening locks should be for getting high-end gear faster, not the sole source of getting them.

[Bug]

They just don’t care.


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[dangibg]

Lockeds is gamble, you cant blame that on the game. If you want to get gold with ur plat u dont open lockeds :) if you want to get rich you dont go to the casino :) not games fault, its ur fault :) gambling is a risk, if you arent prepared to take it and are going to cry in forums abt it, well, you shouldn’t gamble at all :)

(Towards sts) One way of fixing this issue is stop being incompetent and add a list where ppl can see % drop rate of arcane/mythic/vanity etc etc, so they can calculate the risk they are taking and not open blindly then blaming you. You also have a fault in this!


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[Darkrai]

I still find it hilarious that in a game like this, a loot based game, that the most important impact full loot drops from lootboxes. All the people still spending on lootboxes please contact EA, they would love to get to know you.

In all seriousness AL lootboxes are like a toxic ex you know u need to stop spending money on since u know she isnt worth it but you love her to much to stop doing it. U want it to stay

[Foprincesso]

Lockeds is gamble, you cant blame that on the game. If you want to get gold with ur plat u dont open lockeds :) if you want to get rich you dont go to the casino :) not games fault, its ur fault :) gambling is a risk, if you arent prepared to take it and are going to cry in forums abt it, well, you shouldn’t gamble at all :)

(Towards sts) One way of fixing this issue is stop being incompetent and add a list where ppl can see % drop rate of arcane/mythic/vanity etc etc, so they can calculate the risk they are taking and not open blindly then blaming you. You also have a fault in this!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalktotally agree to this .. in both ways

[Sakura Bushido]

To all people calling it a gamble and we agreed on takinf the risk! Go try it yourself:))

Its verry verrry badly designed, if there are locks that cost 100% of the vallue but missing the guarantee isnt that just lazyness from the developer's?

As we all understand it's luck based so dont come tell us but instead try ur own luck! Everyone pointing out thats it unbalanced isnt said without a reason. We get put aside and told to put it in forum and so we do! But we dont get any feedback whatsoever.

You see soo many bugs happening on every release, drop rates adjusting etc etc. With that said think about the bugs that could be in the locks. Could be a value wrong and suddenly u get a biggg different in chest drops.

Myself tried opening so many locks for the new arcane and the amount spend is insaine. Its weird to not even see an arcane drop after 2000+ locks opend on a single chest, 2000 ate 6000 pulls and not even a single one?

Come on....



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[Spooked]

To all people calling it a gamble and we agreed on takinf the risk! Go try it yourself:))

Its verry verrry badly designed, if there are locks that cost 100% of the vallue but missing the guarantee isnt that just lazyness from the developer's?

As we all understand it's luck based so dont come tell us but instead try ur own luck! Everyone pointing out thats it unbalanced isnt said without a reason. We get put aside and told to put it in forum and so we do! But we dont get any feedback whatsoever.

You see soo many bugs happening on every release, drop rates adjusting etc etc. With that said think about the bugs that could be in the locks. Could be a value wrong and suddenly u get a biggg different in chest drops.

Myself tried opening so many locks for the new arcane and the amount spend is insaine. Its weird to not even see an arcane drop after 2000+ locks opend on a single chest, 2000 ate 6000 pulls and not even a single one?

Come on....



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But how does that change the fact that still, its a gamble and you’re knowingly, and apparently willingly, taking the risk.
There is a plethora of alternatives to spend your platinum on, if you really want to get that one arcane, then spend the platinum on something tradable.
As someone who has played more gacha games than 1 hand can count, the amount spent on Arcane is trivial for the potential items you get in return. But that is my 2 cents.
Like we say, Sakura; Helaas Pindakaas

[Jojobear27]

Always like this idk why

[Sakura Bushido]

But how does that change the fact that still, its a gamble and you’re knowingly, and apparently willingly, taking the risk.
There is a plethora of alternatives to spend your platinum on, if you really want to get that one arcane, then spend the platinum on something tradable.
As someone who has played more gacha games than 1 hand can count, the amount spent on Arcane is trivial for the potential items you get in return. But that is my 2 cents.
Like we say, Sakura; Helaas PindakaasReading ur older posts tells me enough.. if u have so much experience u know about drop rates and stuff.

Im certain the message i made says enough, we understand what we invest in. Not the point.

But the developer's taking no time to take a look or give feedback is shooting their own feet.
As simple as asking for a guarantee on 300 pulls for 100% increased price chest isn't related to the drops its more fairness to the real plat spenders.

Its funny u have a comment on it! Bet u dont support the developers as much as some of us do ;) as then u can only imagine the question marks it brings up.

Ik snap zelf ook dat het een speld in de hooiberg zoeken is. Ze gaan hier toch nooit wat aan doen.


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[Sakura Bushido]

Apps en games die mechanismen aanbieden om willekeurige virtuele items te ontvangen bij een aankoop (waaronder, maar niet beperkt tot, 'loot boxes'), moeten zowel vóór als tijdig en in de buurt van de aankoop duidelijk vermelden hoe groot de kans is dat de gebruiker die items krijgt.

Google play regulations, and as shown in arcane legends im wondering if this is consistent and its in my eyes unclear what the rates are.


English:
Apps and games offering mechanisms to receive randomized virtual items from a purchase including, but not limited to, “loot boxes” must clearly disclose the odds of receiving those items in advance of, and in close and timely proximity to, that purchase

[Stephencobear]

Google play regulations, and as shown in arcane legends im wondering if this is consistent and its in my eyes unclear what the rates are.

Apps and games offering mechanisms to receive randomized virtual items from a purchase including, but not limited to, “loot boxes” must clearly disclose the odds of receiving those items in advance of, and in close and timely proximity to, that purchase

First thing, I don’t agree or disagree w you, but I wanted to inform you of how what you posted here does not apply

The reason sts does not have to show the % chance of a drop is that real life money is not the only way to open said loot chests
If it was they might have to show the %

Fact is that they offer crate keys that can be earned & they have plat eggs that can be bought & farmed
This is why the rule of having to show % does not apply to them

[Immortal_Blood]

dunno if i commented on this already but yeahhh man i dont wanna spend $40,000 on a game, thanks!

The trash in the crates should be destroyed, deleted, yeah i think i have commented, hahaha.

..anyway to elaborate might as well while im here,

YEs i understand the trash must be present to maintain the value of the rarities,

..BUT the trash should be useful in some way (28 currencies, elixirs, materials, so much more),

...instead of a sell for 4g type of deal -

THEN , I think people will be so so happy to buy them.

a gamers advice:Replace the trash with useful things so if someone didn't get what they wanted for $500, they will still have a ton of useful tokens and stuff- opposed to 4,000pcs of epic equipment that can only be liquidated to 20k gold.

[Immortal_Blood]

Lockeds is gamble, you cant blame that on the game. If you want to get gold with ur plat u dont open lockeds :) if you want to get rich you dont go to the casino :) not games fault, its ur fault :) gambling is a risk, if you arent prepared to take it and are going to cry in forums abt it, well, you shouldn’t gamble at all :)

(Towards sts) One way of fixing this issue is stop being incompetent and add a list where ppl can see % drop rate of arcane/mythic/vanity etc etc, so they can calculate the risk they are taking and not open blindly then blaming you. You also have a fault in this!


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I can agree with that, kinda.

....A casino is fun, and offers opportunities to develop useful skills, such as card counting..

Locked crates on the other hand contain useless epic/legendary items, which should be removed.

[Sakura Bushido]

..... No guarantee in 100% price increases chest i dont see how yall look over the simple and main question.

I understand its side shifting what STS is doing. And its just a matter of time.
Many games i played with developer with morals and rules even work the same way hiding loot boxes Behind Currency.

And they still add % or atleast a message that its super Low chance.

It just shows how much STS cares about their people.

Funny thing, im replying to this post cause i love investing 40000 euro into my favorite development team. I wont even mind if there was transparency and an ear to the community.

It just became clear to me, i aint spending a singel dime again on this development team. As long as they wont follow morals and regulations and try hide the main problem.



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[Urdookie07]

Lockeds is gamble, you cant blame that on the game. If you want to get gold with ur plat u dont open lockeds :) if you want to get rich you dont go to the casino :) not games fault, its ur fault :) gambling is a risk, if you arent prepared to take it and are going to cry in forums abt it, well, you shouldn’t gamble at all :)

(Towards sts) One way of fixing this issue is stop being incompetent and add a list where ppl can see % drop rate of arcane/mythic/vanity etc etc, so they can calculate the risk they are taking and not open blindly then blaming you. You also have a fault in this!


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100% they need to add % drop rate on every locked chests


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[Urdookie07]

First thing, I don’t agree or disagree w you, but I wanted to inform you of how what you posted here does not apply

The reason sts does not have to show the % chance of a drop is that real life money is not the only way to open said loot chests
If it was they might have to show the %

Fact is that they offer crate keys that can be earned & they have plat eggs that can be bought & farmed
This is why the rule of having to show % does not apply to them

There’s no way that crates keys and even plat eggs combined are being used more than bought plat to open locks lol I bet it isn’t even close, so us that buy plat for chests are fxcked cause they created plat eggs and crate keys? What about back then when plat eggs and keys & offers didn’t exist? They still didn’t had the % did they?


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[Spooked]

There’s no way that crates keys and even plat eggs combined are being used more than bought plat to open locks lol I bet it isn’t even close, so us that buy plat for chests are fxcked cause they created plat eggs and crate keys? What about back then when plat eggs and keys & offers didn’t exist? They still didn’t had the % did they?


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''back then'' as in 2019? yes plat eggs and offers did exist.

[Urdookie07]

''back then'' as in 2019? yes plat eggs and offers did exist.

Nah back then as the OG days I’m talking 2012-2015


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[Stephencobear]

There’s no way that crates keys and even plat eggs combined are being used more than bought plat to open locks lol I bet it isn’t even close, so us that buy plat for chests are fxcked cause they created plat eggs and crate keys? What about back then when plat eggs and keys & offers didn’t exist? They still didn’t had the % did they?


That plat is the (certainly) most used is irrelevant to the law that says they have to disclose the % afaik

As to “back when” b4 those options I don’t think the law requiring % disclosure existed back then

[Spooked]

Nah back then as the OG days I’m talking 2012-2015


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Might wanna look up when google started regulating loot box odds
P.s: 2019
So no, thats why when there were no plat eggs nor crate keys, they weren’t obligated to show percentages

[Aeot]

But how does that change the fact that still, its a gamble and you’re knowingly, and apparently willingly, taking the risk.
There is a plethora of alternatives to spend your platinum on, if you really want to get that one arcane, then spend the platinum on something tradable.
As someone who has played more gacha games than 1 hand can count, the amount spent on Arcane is trivial for the potential items you get in return. But that is my 2 cents.
Like we say, Sakura; Helaas Pindakaas

I think guaranteed loot would benefit everyone.
If people regularly get disappointed with drops and unreasonably unlucky it doesn't make sense for them to keep opening locks. That would hurt the economy and player base since it would mean less drops. It would be better for everyone if locks were a bit more friendly instead of a gamble.

[AgentStonoga]

That's how gambling works like, you usually lose money, it's normal.

[Manisblue]

Luck needed man :D

[Kaziscate]

I think guaranteed loot would benefit everyone.
If people regularly get disappointed with drops and unreasonably unlucky it doesn't make sense for them to keep opening locks. That would hurt the economy and player base since it would mean less drops. It would be better for everyone if locks were a bit more friendly instead of a gamble.

Guaranteed loot is already part of locks (just the store ones though), but even that doesnt guarantee what you want and it can take from all day to several days just to get through all of the pulls. People want it to guarantee an arcane at a reasonable amount of pulls, but it guarantees either a mythic or an arcane, basically just a higher chance at an arcane. It doesn’t help that mythics are really cheap now. The only time it guaranteed an arcane was during the birthday event, but they doubled the pulls required for the guarantee (3000 plat worth). Unless you like taking a chance, there’s no reason to open locks until they make the guarantee system fair and reasonable.

[Player4L]

No kraken staff or armor to be found in cs all gone I wonder where they at

[Immortal_Blood]

Huge post huh, let’s read!

Edit: Read. Seems like nothing new other than what’s stated in the op lol

Nevertheless.. guys and girls please stay on topic or the entire post/your reply will be destroyed, and with regards to a contradiction upon thyself.. it will be destroyed similarly to how our plat is also being destroyed..

cya around bro..


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