Season 28 Timed Dungeon Leaderboard Changes

[Futumsh]

As of the upcoming season 28 (starting January 1, 2023), leaderboard dungeon runs have changed to have max level enemies for all dungeons, roughly equivalent to elite Zodias difficulty.

Non-leaderboard runs of these dungeons remain at the same difficulty as before. In addition, non-leaderboard runs are now available for zones not reached via the world map. These now give an option of 'Standard Run' or 'Leaderboard Run' when choosing to enter.

The world map 'Timed' option has changed to 'LB', and is now saved for each character individually.

The timed dungeon leaderboards will be disabled at the beginning of season 28, until these changes go live (expected to be January 12th).

[Ilove_Poopoo]

Thanks

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[Encryptions]

Hopefully you guys look into adding rewards for running these maps as well, gold won't be something I suggest since everyone will find the fastest map to run and do that. Instead maybe some vanity drops or eggs that won't be in zavier, house items or even jewels ranging from standard to superb.

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[|Ares|]

So as Im safely guessing this means contesting leaderboard version of Brackenridge Forest will give equivalent experience as running leaderboard version of Newland Star map?

[Kelyx]

Thanks

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[Ilove_Poopoo]

U wont get hauntlet anyways

Enviado desde mi SM-G781B mediante TapatalkDon't give em ideas to calibrate that for timed too

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[Legolasn]

So salty. Funny tho :D

[Kelyx]

Don't give em ideas to calibrate that for timed too

Sent from my SM-N975F using TapatalkPretty sure if u go hauntlet it says lvl 81. Might dont cry about timed runs or use exploits to get maps and crypts. :)

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[Ilove_Poopoo]

Pretty sure if u go hauntlet it says lvl 81. Might dont cry about timed runs or use exploits to get maps and crypts. :)

Enviado desde mi SM-G781B mediante TapatalkU mean the exploit ya'll did first to obtain an impossible ESS rec? or when ya'll cried abt undim? If u think that we pmed Devs to have resulted this thread, then think again.

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[Kelyx]

U mean the exploit ya'll did first to obtain an impossible ESS rec? or when ya'll cried abt undim? If u think that we pmed Devs to have resulted this thread, then think again.

Sent from my SM-N975F using TapatalkPretty sure i didnt cry about undim, first of all idc about that map.

ESS? Pretty sure i did that rec to prove it was used with this bug and how it affects other maps and reported it. Also i received plat for reporting it.

But wait, are we talking about same exploit u guys did to set recs in kraken, brackerindge and crypts? I thought u guys could actually compete without bugs but i see u guys cant.

Did i say i think u guys pmed devs so they made this system? I think i didnt but if u feel better thinking so, feel free to.

Enjoy your day, i hope they can rebalance this spirit sword so yours rec in zodias could be removed too. Good bye.

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[Futumsh]

Don't give em ideas to calibrate that for timed too

Hauntlet is also scaled to elite zodias equivalent if running in leaderboard mode (same difficulty as it is now for standard mode), just like every other leaderboard timed dungeon.

[Ilove_Poopoo]

Pretty sure i didnt cry about undim, first of all idc about that map.

ESS? Pretty sure i did that rec to prove it was used with this bug and how it affects other maps and reported it. Also i received plat for reporting it.

But wait, are we talking about same exploit u guys did to set recs in kraken, brackerindge and crypts? I thought u guys could actually compete without bugs but i see u guys cant.

Did i say i think u guys pmed devs so they made this system? I think i didnt but if u feel better thinking so, feel free to.

Enjoy your day, i hope they can rebalance this spirit sword so yours rec in zodias could be removed too. Good bye.

Enviado desde mi SM-G781B mediante TapatalkI didn't say it was u who specifically reported it. What a way to say u used a bug to test and only reported it after other people found out.

Lastly, tell me u dont know how to run Zodias without tell me u dont know how to run Zodias. Cheers!



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[Darndamsel]

Lots of us are switching between regular and timed maps to quickly remap for multiple runs for logging mob and boss kill APs or for farming maps repeatedly such as Orrick. If the timed equal strength map option goes away, can we please have a fast remap button added?

[Monelgr]

Tombs timed will be the same or 81lvl? like ydra tomb or kraag tomb

[Kelyx]

I didn't say it was u who specifically reported it. What a way to say u used a bug to test and only reported it after other people found out.

Lastly, tell me u dont know how to run Zodias without tell me u dont know how to run Zodias. Cheers!



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[Ilove_Poopoo]

@Cinco yes, fix the sword and reset Zodias timed. So these people won't always blame records they CANT set by them "bugged or exploited".

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[Darkoptiic]

Pretty sure i didnt cry about undim, first of all idc about that map.

ESS? Pretty sure i did that rec to prove it was used with this bug and how it affects other maps and reported it. Also i received plat for reporting it.

But wait, are we talking about same exploit u guys did to set recs in kraken, brackerindge and crypts? I thought u guys could actually compete without bugs but i see u guys cant.

Did i say i think u guys pmed devs so they made this system? I think i didnt but if u feel better thinking so, feel free to.

Enjoy your day, i hope they can rebalance this spirit sword so yours rec in zodias could be removed too. Good bye.

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You got multiples records, in multiple seasons, to prove that a bug exists??!!??!!? Lmaooo give me whatever you’re on man because I need it too after reading that.
Were you guys doing that for Arena too? ��

[Voorge]

Question to devs:
Can you hire someone to play your game and provide constructive feedback or start playing it yourself for the sake of realizing how many dramas your lack of knowledge (about your own game) create.

[Kelyx]

You got multiples records, in multiple seasons, to prove that a bug exists??!!??!!? Lmaooo give me whatever you’re on man because I need it too after reading that.
Were you guys doing that for Arena too? ��I think u dont know what we are talking about. Instead of saying weird things u should read previous thread and have a look into "timed maps bugfixes".

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[|Ares|]

Really tired of dealing with unnecessary comments and biting back.
I'd just like to actually know what caused the necessity of adjusting the maps from next season?

[Futumsh]

Really tired of dealing with unnecessary comments and biting back.
I'd just like to actually know what caused the necessity of adjusting the maps from next season?

Leaderboards for low level maps run by maxxed out characters are rather absurd. This fixes that.

[Futumsh]

Tombs timed will be the same or 81lvl? like ydra tomb or kraag tomb

Leaderboard runs for *all* timed dungeons are scaled to max level.

[Thewolfbull]

Will this effect using quests for faster remapping? Most quests bring you to timed map if it's an elite zone. Example hauntlet quest/kraag tombs/planar tombs/elite rengol etc, also what about maps not resetting if boss isn't dead on untimed runs, most swap between timed/untimed map to remap faster, It might be better to just add "leaderboard timed run" as another option as well as the current timed/untimed maps, or as someone else said a fast remap button would probably solve this assuming the map resets everytime you use it.

Looks like a nice change though, Hope there is some new loot or something to farm/eggs/aps, will be nice to run some of the old maps again.

[Nexior]

Another karma for Timed Team igns. Disgusting things always back.
Well didnt asked for early xmas but i take it.

Dear Kelyx try to lvl up spirit to lvl 50. Then you can test it(i would tell you how it works on zodias but fr dont want to see again reset zodias maps). Also should we at least try hauntlet? Or its just you one of the best legends? If u damn pro why u worried about?



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[Futumsh]

Will this effect using quests for faster remapping? Most quests bring you to timed map if it's an elite zone. Example hauntlet quest/kraag tombs/planar tombs/elite rengol etc, also what about maps not resetting if boss isn't dead on untimed runs, most swap between timed/untimed map to remap faster, It might be better to just add "leaderboard timed run" as another option as well as the current timed/untimed maps, or as someone else said a fast remap button would probably solve this assuming the map resets everytime you use it.

Looks like a nice change though, Hope there is some new loot or something to farm/eggs/aps, will be nice to run some of the old maps again.

Quests will send you to the untimed version of the dungeon.
Also you should no longer need to toggle timed/untimed to remap (from a completed zone).

[Undershooting]

Tbh a good move by sts, now some others will get a chance as well since not everything has the luck to get all ms awakes on gears. I’ll be nice to see more people competing for those banners . ������

[Blessful]

Dear Kelyx try to lvl up spirit to lvl 50. Then you can test it

Easier to assume its "broken" and blame everyone else than do that..

[Gufugufutwo]

wait i have literally waited years for this. lets goooooooooooo

[Gufugufutwo]

Quests will send you to the untimed version of the dungeon.
Also you should no longer need to toggle timed/untimed to remap (from a completed zone).

wait oops i forgot to reply with quote

i have waited years for this woooooooooo

[aleyenZ]

Add all maps in hotbars pls. Need fast remap

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[Encryptions]

Guys really be claiming its the spirit sword that 1 shots hydra and orrick.

[Beanecacan]

Huh sounds funny

[Sakura Bushido]

*popcorn

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[Spooked]

woooooooooooooooo uncommon sts W

[Valkiirye]

Leaderboard runs for *all* timed dungeons are scaled to max level.

This mean we will farm energy everywhere, cool! Back to wtb4 farm


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[Itzmemohsin]

Lots of us are switching between regular and timed maps to quickly remap for multiple runs for logging mob and boss kill APs or for farming maps repeatedly such as Orrick. If the timed equal strength map option goes away, can we please have a fast remap button added?+1 , good idea

[Itzmemohsin]

Leaderboard runs for *all* timed dungeons are scaled to max level.@Futumsh

Why not make older maps scale in difficulty OR only make the elite version scale in difficulty for everyone as they level up , this would provide much more options for normal players rather than running just esf or other zodias maps 24x7, it's would provide much more options to the players , tbh old maps are pretty good.

And you could add different rewards for different maps [rewards should be decent]

It would provide much more variety to the game & it would be pretty fun

[nathan2693]

hmm what about the gear requirements for this newly buffed time runned thingy? honor gears?

[nathan2693]

XD goodluck to all timed run LB runners on next season

[Nocturnus]

Very good change.
I hope we can use these Lb 81 maps for other things like events, energy, etc.
Or perhaps, also see other types of content on these maps.

[Staaarlord]

nice changes and +1 for refresh map button instead of having to finish the map

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[Castofspell]

Imagine caring about timed LB enough to cry about it on forum, just be a collector and afk and grab a bottle of tequila simple as that.

+1 oh and i like the changes thanks Futu.


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[Lomaun]

Nice update , helped a lot of players.

[Oawaoebi]

Interesting changes are there going to be aps added into those maps? I would like to see some. For example finish map under x amount of time.

Now it doesn’t require 600 ms but 400 and skill + gear are enough


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[Immortal_Blood]

wow that is fresh. Nice!

[jazzbloonist]

As u guys mentioned, timed dungeons will be disabled for first 2 weeks of january. Would like to know if after the first 2 weeks of january, there would be standard run timed maps? Or are timed runs ONLY for LB run?
Sometimes in farms its better to have a timer to know our own progress on the run itself and/or compete with ourselves.

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[Futumsh]

As u guys mentioned, timed dungeons will be disabled for first 2 weeks of january. Would like to know if after the first 2 weeks of january, there would be standard run timed maps? Or are timed runs ONLY for LB run?
Sometimes in farms its better to have a timer to know our own progress on the run itself and/or compete with ourselves.


Not sure what you're asking - you can go to the same map as a standard or leaderboard run. The timer is only present for leaderboard runs, as it is only used for the leaderboard.

[papas]

@Futumsh suggestion
Would it be possible add a non timed option in planar arena, and planar tombs with its current difficulty? As u know ppl need grind those for aps and get planar ingots for other certain aps. Also all other tombs give aps for clearing once.
Especially for hc mode will be impossible.
Thanx in advance.


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[Beanecacan]

Imagine thinking zodias sword is usable in zodias so big brain lmao

[Futumsh]

Would it be possible add a non timed option in planar arena, and planar tombs with its current difficulty?

You should be able to enter every dungeon in standard mode at its current difficulty.

[jazzbloonist]

Not sure what you're asking - you can go to the same map as a standard or leaderboard run. The timer is only present for leaderboard runs, as it is only used for the leaderboard.So timed is only for lb runs. And standard runs is strictly untimed?

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[Xyv.io]

So all the mobs for lb runs are gonna have lot more hp and damage (some factor)? Or same as zodias mobs?

[Spooked]

So all the mobs for lb runs are gonna have lot more hp and damage (some factor)? Or same as zodias mobs?

It literally says equivalent to elite zodias..

[ItsNotOrange]

Yay nice update! No more 1 team in timed run!

[Rodrigo Maia]

With all these changes maybe solo Arena it would be fun, alot ppl need door / kill boss, it will be fun to see the players running alone.

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[Oawaoebi]

With all these changes maybe solo Arena it would be fun, alot ppl need door / kill boss, it will be fun to see the players running alone.

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Zodias arena would be cool a different one completely new shuyal arena goosebumps


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[Redx]

Cool thanks.

[snakeeyes]

Nice thats the way we like it thanks sts.

[gunstick]

Please put some rewards in all elite maps like some new egg and vanity only dropping in some specific map so that people will start running those maps as well.

Running only Elite sunken for money is kind of getting boring.

People use to run some elite maps for elite chest, arcane chest and Twilight locks back then now no one do that as they can farm that amount of gold in one run elite sunken.

There are many players only running elite sunken just to get 1b gold ap... After that they will not run that map and just sit in the camp and do nothing, kindly make other maps rewarding so players will start running those maps too.

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[wowdah]

This is a good change, I've always found it strange how the difficulty of early elites weren't scaled up so mobs weren't one shotted (and suggested the exact change in this announcement). However more could be done to make timed runs excited again. What about adding a mode where everyone has the same gear, like honor pvp? That way timed runs will go back to being purely skill based instead of who can buy the fastest/highest damage items worth millions. And, no one can claim that whoever got the record only got it because of their gear; it would solely be skill based (and slightly luck based). The excitement (and thus profit) generated from this would be more than what's generated from a few players buying very expensive items.

[Sakura Bushido]

This is a good change, I've always found it strange how the difficulty of early elites weren't scaled up so mobs weren't one shotted (and suggested the exact change in this announcement). However more could be done to make timed runs excited again. What about adding a mode where everyone has the same gear, like honor pvp? That way timed runs will go back to being purely skill based instead of who can buy the fastest/highest damage items worth millions. And, no one can claim that whoever got the record only got it because of their gear; it would solely be skill based (and slightly luck based). The excitement (and thus profit) generated from this would be more than what's generated from a few players buying very expensive items.+1 timed and honor timed sounds like fun challenge for anyone playing

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[fofo391]

This is a good change, I've always found it strange how the difficulty of early elites weren't scaled up so mobs weren't one shotted (and suggested the exact change in this announcement). However more could be done to make timed runs excited again. What about adding a mode where everyone has the same gear, like honor pvp? That way timed runs will go back to being purely skill based instead of who can buy the fastest/highest damage items worth millions. And, no one can claim that whoever got the record only got it because of their gear; it would solely be skill based (and slightly luck based). The excitement (and thus profit) generated from this would be more than what's generated from a few players buying very expensive items.+1 for this

[Spooked]

This is a good change, I've always found it strange how the difficulty of early elites weren't scaled up so mobs weren't one shotted (and suggested the exact change in this announcement). However more could be done to make timed runs excited again. What about adding a mode where everyone has the same gear, like honor pvp? That way timed runs will go back to being purely skill based instead of who can buy the fastest/highest damage items worth millions. And, no one can claim that whoever got the record only got it because of their gear; it would solely be skill based (and slightly luck based). The excitement (and thus profit) generated from this would be more than what's generated from a few players buying very expensive items.

Partially a good idea, because the game is not too complex the fastest routes will be known in a very short time and spread like wildfire, when this happens it will be purely internet based which makes it even more unfair than it is now. Its widely known a ping under 10 can give a huge advantage especially for maps like Shuyal arena. And it definitely shaves off the miliseconds that could make a difference.
Its apparent sts always strives to push us to run endgame maps and gear up, this is the core of MMORPGS; gearing up and getting stronger.

[aleyenZ]

Please put some rewards in all elite maps like some new egg and vanity only dropping in some specific map so that people will start running those maps as well.

Running only Elite sunken for money is kind of getting boring.

People use to run some elite maps for elite chest, arcane chest and Twilight locks back then now no one do that as they can farm that amount of gold in one run elite sunken.

There are many players only running elite sunken just to get 1b gold ap... After that they will not run that map and just sit in the camp and do nothing, kindly make other maps rewarding so players will start running those maps too.

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[Ihavethisname]

Really tired of dealing with unnecessary comments and biting back.
I'd just like to actually know what caused the necessity of adjusting the maps from next season?


To prevent noobs like u with ur homeboys clearing all maps in 3 sec and leaving no place for other guys to get a stupid banner for once (not that i care for them banners, i dont need the free things) but u take all records then there is nothing to do for us till next season

[Miyared]

Right xD

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[aronespinoza91]

Hauntlet is also scaled to elite zodias equivalent if running in leaderboard mode (same difficulty as it is now for standard mode), just like every other leaderboard timed dungeon.

Sir. can update option timed lb and not time lb.
many player have equip low or legendary. thank you

[Happilyanonymous]

Some of us couldn't care less about timed. Can we have an off leaderboard option so that hc don't die on accident. Ty

[Futumsh]

Some of us couldn't care less about timed. Can we have an off leaderboard option so that hc don't die on accident. Ty

You can choose leaderboard or standard mode for every dungeon which has a timed leaderboard mode, as I've said before.

[papas]

Some of us couldn't care less about timed. Can we have an off leaderboard option so that hc don't die on accident. TyU can remap while doing elit bosses using map non timed after boss is killed.

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[wowdah]

Thanks for your comment. I don't agree. I've been playing timed runs since season 1, and back then basically everyone had similar gear. It was hyper competitive, with many different teams getting records. It was very fair, and based on skill and coming up with better and better strategy. Contrast that to now, when only a few teams get all the records. (That's not a bad thing, records aren't charity, whoever gets them gets them, but it's worth changing the overall requirements/making gear the same to engender excitement).

Ping does matter, but that will always be the case. Making it so the gear is the same at least levels the playing field where it can.

[Bun-Bun]

nice, more options

[Péter Ferenczi]

+1 devs good idea. And +1 for all player who want to build the game whit some nice advices. I add my little idea if anyone accept it add me a +1. I know the kraken items are now the most op stuff in the game but we have some spirit stuff too and whit the good build they not that bad so what about if you devs make a map for them like the spirit marsh to lv up this items cause the xp income is nearly nothing in zodias map for the weapon. I really love this weapon leveling idea don't leave it in the dust.
My main is a war and i use my spirit aegis whit some STR buffing skill+the new kraken stuffs and it is suprisely op if you know what you doing. Build the game please and don't leave this ideas in the dust and let this weapons to worth nothing like the lv71 ones at fester/dm era. :)

[kulldeepboro]

+1 devs good idea. And +1 for all player who want to build the game whit some nice advices. I add my little idea if anyone accept it add me a +1. I know the kraken items are now the most op stuff in the game but we have some spirit stuff too and whit the good build they not that bad so what about if you devs make a map for them like the spirit marsh to lv up this items cause the xp income is nearly nothing in zodias map for the weapon. I really love this weapon leveling idea don't leave it in the dust.
My main is a war and i use my spirit aegis whit some STR buffing skill+the new kraken stuffs and it is suprisely op if you know what you doing. Build the game please and don't leave this ideas in the dust and let this weapons to worth nothing like the lv71 ones at fester/dm era. :)hi , sorry to break your hope but they won't add any map for irrelevant items .

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[Honorably]

As of the upcoming season 28 (starting January 1, 2023), leaderboard dungeon runs have changed to have max level enemies for all dungeons, roughly equivalent to elite Zodias difficulty.

Non-leaderboard runs of these dungeons remain at the same difficulty as before. In addition, non-leaderboard runs are now available for zones not reached via the world map. These now give an option of 'Standard Run' or 'Leaderboard Run' when choosing to enter.

The world map 'Timed' option has changed to 'LB', and is now saved for each character individually.

The timed dungeon leaderboards will be disabled at the beginning of season 28, until these changes go live (expected to be within the first 2 weeks of January).

Each map should save a characters ACCOUNT, not individually. Top runners just swap gear to other toons to hold maps. I don't even run timed and find this unfair lol

[Staaarlord]

Each map should save a characters ACCOUNT, not individually. Top runners just swap gear to other toons to hold maps. I don't even run timed and find this unfair lolI feel u but they will just make new accounts then and swap gear again, lvling up is just too easy nowadays

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[Jiubara]

Lots of us are switching between regular and timed maps to quickly remap for multiple runs for logging mob and boss kill APs or for farming maps repeatedly such as Orrick. If the timed equal strength map option goes away, can we please have a fast remap button added?

U can do that with non timed; no need to leavev the map, but have to kill the boss for the reneter to rest the map.

[Jiubara]

reset the map*

[fofo391]

Each map should save a characters ACCOUNT, not individually. Top runners just swap gear to other toons to hold maps. I don't even run timed and find this unfair lolIf the challenge is too easy, then it's not really a good competition. If it's hard just to get one record and somehow you made it, then it makes you feel something great. Yes?

[Honorably]

U can do that with non timed; no need to leavev the map, but have to kill the boss for the reneter to rest the map. just start the timer on timed, then go to normal.