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Akaee
08-20-2012, 05:25 AM
Trying to get the white bats i ran roof assaillent over and over with my main. He now has almost 150 k kills, no luck. I decided to do a test.

I made an alt i ran roof as soon as i could but also other maps dropped loads of vanities to me. On roof no bats bleeeeh but loads of socialite legs. Seemed i had my lucky char in my alt. Then the count came on 10 k, demon achievement. I had NO vanity whatsoever since! Also pinks seemed to drop less. Looks like high killcount is killing the droprate. Hard work gets rewarded with bad luck. For me it seems there is a serious problem with the dropmeachanics.

Flowman
08-20-2012, 08:54 AM
they'll tell you it's just a coincidence and it's all luck...but the evidence of low level alts getting vanities is stacking up lol

Lady_Pebbles
08-20-2012, 09:00 AM
This is why we need more people reporting this problem. Everyone thinks we are just whining but obviously we are simply pist off at the fact that this is happening yet nothing is being done about it.

So preach on cuz we've been at it since day one & our words still fall on brick walls. Smh Selective hearing lol.

Aaroniero Arruruerie
08-20-2012, 10:16 AM
I kinda can't contest the claim, but I hear "Demon" ranked players complain about their under-10k-counterparts getting more vanity drops than they are.

XchilangopwnX
08-20-2012, 11:02 AM
Well I am believing the theory now because my Main has never whatsoever received a vanity and has had at least 10k kills since vanities have been implemented (I am not a heavy PvE-r). My alt which I started last week hit level 10 and was running a dungeon when poof a Sea Captain Top dropped. My first vanity drop ever in DL. This character has 717 PvE kills and is now at level 12. I didn't even feel happy about the drop. My main has farmed much longer and never a drop and I switch to this toon and in less than 800 kills a vanity dropped. :vmad:

Flowman
08-20-2012, 11:04 AM
Well I am believing the theory now because my Main has never whatsoever received a vanity and has had at least 10k kills since vanities have been implemented (I am not a heavy PvE-r). My alt which I started last week hit level 10 and was running a dungeon when poof a Sea Captain Top dropped. My first vanity drop ever in DL. This character has 717 PvE kills and is now at level 12. I didn't even feel happy about the drop. My main has farmed much longer and never a drop and I switch to this toon and in less than 800 kills a vanity dropped. :vmad:

I got a green biker helm on my VERY FIRST KILL on a new account lol :p

«GaniCrush»
08-20-2012, 11:44 AM
Shat gamer top dropped on my alt soo ill shut up now. Pooooof.

Less then 2k kills

Zaonabiuibil
08-20-2012, 01:40 PM
Well I haven't done a single run in DL for a week. My first run and I get a socialite top.

Reyven
08-20-2012, 04:58 PM
I can attest to this happening as well. During the weekend, I started my alt character and have been getting crazy drops. I even got two solstice fire shards and socialite legs on one map run, which is unheard of. My lvl 26 character doesn't get any vanity drops. Not a coincidence.

StompArtist
08-20-2012, 05:05 PM
No offense devs but there is something strange going on with the drops. Have you guys looked at the distribution curve vs level no just quantity?

Running Pear
08-20-2012, 05:36 PM
It's all luck I got albino bats on my very first time on rooftop assailant. I agree, I also see less pink drops.

Sam_Arah
08-20-2012, 09:31 PM
just been getting socialite tops, fml

Iarabam
08-20-2012, 09:33 PM
just been getting socialite tops, fml

Same. And nobody even buys them anymore. :(

RedRyder
08-21-2012, 12:02 AM
Pinks have been scarce as hell too. I started an alt to test this theory and all I had to show for was an orange desire piece. Under 2k kills and Lv 15

Akaee
08-21-2012, 01:10 AM
It's all luck I got albino bats on my very first time on rooftop assailant. I agree, I also see less pink drops.


just been getting socialite tops, fml


Same. And nobody even buys them anymore. :(

If they drop is not the issue i am sure they do. The issue here is i get 10+ vanities in the first 10 k of my kills. Now the demon title is reached and the 11 k kills that followed none has dropped on me. My main has 150 k kills, already + 10 k kills before vanities even dropped. On him i have gotten the total of 1 vanity ever. For me it seems there is a serious issue and its nothing to do with luck.

gison
08-21-2012, 01:37 AM
1 random run when I was farming gold lol, gamer top dropped on me :D

mafiainc42
08-21-2012, 01:54 AM
Got about 15 socialite leggs on roof tops in 2 hours on my alt diff account. ZERO on Judgement all day

Growwle
08-21-2012, 02:02 AM
Random means that you have an equal chance of any possible outcome. So, you have the same chance of getting what you want the first time, as you do the 10,000,001st time. No idea if the drop rates are truly random though, most likely not.

I'm Siri
08-21-2012, 03:35 AM
Tested this out.
Make an new alts level 3 just leech with my lev26 main. (keep low kills)
Whenever vanities drop. (orange des top, green biker top, helm, soc top) Guess what? Random huh!!!??? All the new noob got it. My main like what the.... Guess Siri will kill the new noob for sure if she can. Lol

Ps: control 2 toons at same time kinda make me wanna bang my phone. My wife just shake her head and walk off every time see me do that. Damn I'm going insane soon. Real soon:) wakaka

Akaee
08-21-2012, 05:30 AM
Great test Siri and again proof something doesnt seem right....

Cahaun
08-21-2012, 05:55 AM
Wow no wondering I don't get anything good >_<

Rare
08-21-2012, 03:56 PM
My wife just shake her head and walk off every time see me

I know the feeling

Wretch
08-21-2012, 11:14 PM
I know the feeling

I will third that remark.... But only for playing.


Sad thing for me... Main has all the drops, alt hasn't gotten a single pink drop yet! (26 now)

Reyven
08-22-2012, 03:45 AM
I'm also thinking that some characters will get certain drops that other characters will not. No matter how many times I've run rooftop, I haven't been able to get the albino bats with any of my alts, yet someone else runs once and gets them. One alt will get something that another alt can't get. It's not just the bats, it's everything. The system is messed up and frustrating as all heck! This issue needs to be fixed if they want ppl to continue playing. I'm not going to purchase any more alt characters, just to get vanity drops. If that's the strategy, then it's over. I don't think ppl have ever been this frustrated over a game. That's my two cents.

Rare
08-22-2012, 08:28 AM
I'm also thinking that some characters will get certain drops that other characters will not.

This is actually an interesting scenario I've been thinking about. Reason i say that it seems like I can only lot certain pieces (rares). I don't want to get into specifics of what, but there are certain pieces i have been trying to loot for a long time that won't drop to me.

But i have gotten several of one rare piece.

And actually on my alts i haven't looted any rare vanities including a lvl 10 alt. So based on my experience alone, I think that level/kills is not a factor. Although unlikely, maybe different loot tables for different people is a possibility.

RedRyder
08-22-2012, 04:21 PM
I really don't believe the low level rate theory. I leveled from one to 17 and got a orange desire helm, a snake mask on my 26 and undead antlers on my 24 earlier today after hundreds of runs. It's pure coincidence.

Reyven
08-22-2012, 04:38 PM
So based on my experience alone, I think that level/kills is not a factor.

I still believe that level/kills does have an effect on the loot drops, but in addition to that, I believe that the different loot for different ppl also exists. There seems to be a few things occurring. Either way, it's an issue. If we knew that going in, we may not have tried so hard to get something that was impossible to get anyway.

Kuero
08-22-2012, 08:24 PM
Alright, I haven't read most comments here (just too lazy sorry)
But I might can help abit with my experiences

I have a lvl 26 vampire (my one and only char) and I'm getting vanity drops all few runs.

1st I highly recommend to solo run. It's actually easy especially when you plan to feed (there's no team mate killing that one enemy you were planning to feed on)

2nd Kill every single monster and destroy every single item. They all drop vanity, they all and I have received the rarest vanities just like albino bats and dark manic mask from trash.

3. Complete the entire map, so kill all ghosts and monsters, smash all trash, collect all junk items and also kill the boss. If your haven't got lucky then just repeat

Wretch
08-22-2012, 11:02 PM
It's those darn bats.... I know I have run countless times with no luck, I don't want to think about how many judgement has done... Makes my thumbs just blister!

Had my luck on pretty much everything else the same way, just no bats...

Best of luck to all!

Reyven
08-23-2012, 02:14 AM
1st I highly recommend to solo run. It's actually easy especially when you plan to feed (there's no team mate killing that one enemy you were planning to feed on)

2nd Kill every single monster and destroy every single item. They all drop vanity, they all and I have received the rarest vanities just like albino bats and dark manic mask from trash.

3. Complete the entire map, so kill all ghosts and monsters, smash all trash, collect all junk items and also kill the boss. If your haven't got lucky then just repeat


If only it worked that way for everyone. I only do solo farming, I kill and destroy everything, and I've repeated maps so many times that my head starts spinning, yet still no vanities (on my higher lvl/kill characters). It's nice to know that at least someone is succeeding.

Kuero
08-23-2012, 03:22 AM
Almost, I'm farming since event start now for undead mask, no found yet. I really appreciate my albino bats and dark manic mask drops but I would have preferred getting the limited vanity before. Because dark manic and albinos are unlimited drops

mafiainc42
08-24-2012, 11:41 PM
it's those darn bats.... I know i have run countless times with no luck, i don't want to think about how many judgement has done... Makes my thumbs just blister!

Had my luck on pretty much everything else the same way, just no bats...

Best of luck to all!

got them finaly!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reyven
08-24-2012, 11:57 PM
got them finaly!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congrats, that's awesome!! Wish I were that lucky.

Wretch
08-25-2012, 03:23 AM
Ahh poo... Just posted about no bats for ya.... Oh well... Bout time! And congrats!!!

Azi
08-26-2012, 01:59 PM
Trying to get the white bats i ran roof assaillent over and over with my main. He now has almost 150 k kills, no luck. I decided to do a test.

I made an alt i ran roof as soon as i could but also other maps dropped loads of vanities to me. On roof no bats bleeeeh but loads of socialite legs. Seemed i had my lucky char in my alt. Then the count came on 10 k, demon achievement. I had NO vanity whatsoever since! Also pinks seemed to drop less. Looks like high killcount is killing the droprate. Hard work gets rewarded with bad luck. For me it seems there is a serious problem with the dropmeachanics.

While running for vanities with my high level alts i noticed that certain powers used yeilded less drops, period. When killing mobs with rats i noticed way fewer drops, than with jump and blades. To test my theory i started using SKILLS than inflict more body jarring attacks and noticed just more gems and everything else dropping in greater numbers. I suggest to you it has little to do with the level, and more to do with the types of skills used. Lower levels cant use attacks like rats, or fire, so they have no choice but to use the skills with body jarring effect. Try changing the skill you use and you will start seeing more drops

AZI

Serfius
08-26-2012, 02:23 PM
I think you are all reading much to far into this. Its random... I think you all should understand that there is a .01 chance for bats to drop... They are suppose to be uber rare and just because you dont have them doesn't mean we are dealing with a flawed system. Just means you need to keep at it. I am sure that if you would've kept running missions with your higher lvl characters instead of buying new ones you would have been received the same drops at some point. Keep at it and good luck to all of you.

mafiainc42
08-26-2012, 02:35 PM
Lmfao if kill count is the issue then i guess im screwed for the next 2 years jesus. Well i got Bats on judge so u can cross the kill count theory out

Reyven
08-26-2012, 05:55 PM
Lmfao if kill count is the issue then i guess im screwed for the next 2 years jesus. Well i got Bats on judge so u can croos the kill count theory out

Off topic, did you get the bats on Rooftop Assailant? If not, what map?

mafiainc42
08-26-2012, 06:08 PM
Off topic, did you get the bats on Rooftop Assailant? If not, what map?

Roof tops.

MightyMicah
08-26-2012, 06:26 PM
The more kills I get, the more freaking biker tops I get. Maybe those don't count? Or maybe I'm just destined to be a biker...

Seriously though, I think it's all in our heads :-)

RedRyder
08-26-2012, 06:39 PM
While running for vanities with my high level alts i noticed that certain powers used yeilded less drops, period. When killing mobs with rats i noticed way fewer drops, than with jump and blades. To test my theory i started using SKILLS than inflict more body jarring attacks and noticed just more gems and everything else dropping in greater numbers. I suggest to you it has little to do with the level, and more to do with the types of skills used. Lower levels cant use attacks like rats, or fire, so they have no choice but to use the skills with body jarring effect. Try changing the skill you use and you will start seeing more drops

AZI

This is seriously the last theory anyone has to hear lol. Luck luck luck luck and luck is all it is.

mafiainc42
08-26-2012, 07:24 PM
I noticed when my 3 year old sleeps between the hours of 1300 and 1600 i get drops but when my 12 year old asks for money i cant buy platnium. I think this is a problem sts needs to look in on

Wretch
08-26-2012, 08:52 PM
Lmao!

No kids so I am unable to reproduce your bug!

Now putting the wife through college... There is my plat bug.