Holley weapons and set bonus

[Oakmaiden]

I think this is my first cry over weapon/gear stats, please excuse me if I’m wrong.
According to my inventory ranking, yellow sets are slightly better than mythic. Sets were ‘sets’ first.
Now the cry, Holley weapons have half the dps of the mythic same level counterparts.
Kinda makes the 15% haste useless. The extra set bonus for event map didn’t pay out. Maybe reduce the percentage and let it work every where. Buff the set please. I don’t think it will break anything.

[Oakmaiden]

Bumping, I won’t spend plat to awaken this set as it stands, please buff the dps/bonuses.

[mrshield]

The other buff for brood is useless cause no gold drop in brood ��

[flashio]

Some examples:
- Wearing 3/3 make player's attacks have an ice effect (reduce ms, dodge, crit by 25%) *irrespective of cd*.
- Holley weapons' charged attacks (Basic AND Skill) deal an extra 50%dmg with a 10% chance of freezing enemy for 3seconds.
- Wearing Holley Helm+Armor grant a "ice shield" effect this effect increases player's dmg,crit dmg, primary stat by 25%, this effect gets reduced by 5% every second and back up to 25%.
- Holley Helm grants a 3k HP shield that lasts 10seconds. When shield gets destroyed (by attack or timeout) player will receive a 10%ms boost and slow close enemies by 20%.
- Holley Armor grants a 500hp shield that lasts 5seconds. When shield gets destroyed deals moderate aoe dmg to close enemies and reduce their dmg by 10%.

These effects would count as passive without cooldown.

[Copycode]

Yes and i think Holley weapons should have some proc effects at least. And this Holley set is really easy to die!!! Please add some HP/armor

[Oakmaiden]

The other buff for brood is useless cause no gold drop in brood ��

Devs could make up for that by changing the bonus to apply all maps...

[Bladelf]

I think it's meant for other things like Ms / gl stat

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[Kaziscate]

I'm thinking they made the set pretty basic and with weaker stats since it's meant to be something to be swapped to while you have a weapon or armor proc active, which would explain why it lacks procs. I am curious how well it works with heroic garlic and heroic tadthep while you have a stat-buffing proc active since that would be 40%-65% haste on top of a big damage boost.

[championboost]

the holley set is the best for movement speed
stop crying about everything

[Oakmaiden]

the holley set is the best for movement speed
stop crying about everything

If only your post was umm... useful. I see you cry plenty about whatever concerns you. Feel free to check yourself..

[Oakmaiden]

I'm thinking they made the set pretty basic and with weaker stats since it's meant to be something to be swapped to while you have a weapon or armor proc active, which would explain why it lacks procs. I am curious how well it works with heroic garlic and heroic tadthep while you have a stat-buffing proc active since that would be 40%-65% haste on top of a big damage boost.

Perhaps like previous proc stacking was nerfed, this hotbar swapping needs a nerf. Most player cannot afford multiple sets to run one map. So I will continue to stand afk in town til the next event. (My biggest peeve about the set is the dps/gold bonus. Not the haste)

[Kaziscate]

Perhaps like previous proc stacking was nerfed, this hotbar swapping needs a nerf. Most player cannot afford multiple sets to run one map. So I will continue to stand afk in town til the next event. (My biggest peeve about the set is the dps/gold bonus. Not the haste)

I think nerfing hotbar swapping would cause some balance issues and several weapons would have to be rebalanced. I do agree the gl buff was a bit questionable, but it isn't really the set's fault since the winter event didn't have high enough gold drops for it to be very useful. One more thing that I would like to point out is that the holley set pieces have similar stats to the lvl 81 tainted set pieces, so maybe that could be looked at too?

[Oakmaiden]

I’ve decided to roll it and see if it’s at least helpful to me in events. My luck is always so backwards, I rolled 3% 3% 1% all stats on the armor.. :/

[Kaziscate]

I know it's a headache having a million different item sets, but I was thinking what if you combined the holley set with the lvl 81 elondria mythic set? When you combine both sets you would have a total of +30% primary stat, +50 primary stat, +25% health, +45% speed, +15% damage, and +15% haste. That actually gives you stats very similar to the zaarus set bonus, but with 25% more speed, 5% less damage, and 10% more haste.

[Oakmaiden]

I have the Over Easy belt,ring, ammy. It has stacking bonuses. It’s the weapons. I went back and looked at my Tainted weapons. While the dps is close, at least it procs. My Bounty bow tho... sweet proc and stats. I suppose this Holley set would have be more attractive as a 2/2 Helm Armor combo. Probably why I also don’t use the Tainted I looted last event.

[championboost]

honestly they could buff the stats a little bit
but as i said before this set is not bad as it is the best set for max speed

[Kaziscate]

These are my stats so far with holley+elondria sets. It isn’t anything phenomenal and I’m starting to think the set could use a little bit of help. Keep in mind that I don’t have jewels slotted yet and I’m still working on getting at least 13% Int total for awakens. If I swap out the pieces for zaarus set, I get 7.4k dmg with staff, 8k with hyperos, and 9.1k with blaster. My zaarus set is mainly focused on gl and has no int awakens (except 7 int on hyperos). If I’m able to grind enough to get decent awakens on all the pieces I’ll make an update post.

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Edit: I forgot to take haste into consideration for doing dps. I'll be using the dps stat and I'm not sure if it's a perfectly accurate indicator, but if we took haste into consideration, holley would have 10,064.88 dps. Aquaris has 9595.53 dps, which would be 10,075.31 if we took the 5% haste into consideration. I also had arcanite redd for hb.

[Oakmaiden]

So, your going with int stats over speed? I happened to roll 3% all 3% all 1% all stats on the armor. I have 15% speed on the helm. If they drop 2x offers/plat sale, I’d like another go at the weapons. What would you do with them, on which piece? For Rogue speed or stats on dagger/bow? Currently have 15% speed on both but would prefer stats on one.
Still wish the weapons had some pizazz. The bow is screaming for the chain shock proc Dragon daggers had. Maybe limit the effect to 5 enemies.

[Kaziscate]

I'm going for int% on all of the pieces to see if that can make up for the lack of damage and make it a bit better for dps while I have aquaris proced. Blaster probably will still outperform for dps even after all the buffs I'm putting into the set because of the proc and really strong stats. I would say if you're going for speed, it might be better to just commit to that, unless they end up buffing the set, though that doesn't seem likely. They can't buff the weapons themselves because they are really cheap right now, but if they tied an extra proc or buff to the set bonus, that would be nice. It's a shame because the set has potential to be really fun to mess around with, but it's held back by how basic and weak it is. If anything, it's probably only going to be at its strongest once the winter event comes around again, but we might have better stuff by that time. The set isn't getting any cheaper, mainly thanks to how expensive the helm is. If the set is gonna be expensive and rare, it should live up to the price tag too. Right now, getting a holley+elondria set costs almost as much as getting aquaris, hyperos, and all of the other zaarus set pieces (at least for mage). I just need to get jewels for the set and hopefully it makes the set more useable for combat.

[Kaziscate]

I got the set all slotted now and here are the stats compared to all 3 mythic weapons:


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The Holley Staff does a decent job at mob clear while you have Aquaris active. The Holley gun was the worst out of the bunch when it came to using it for single target dps and the low dps holds it back from being good. It was outclassed easily by the Smuggler’s Blaster. The Holley Gun+Aquaris performed just as good as Hyperos (without the proc)+Aquaris, though Hyperos is mainly used for the proc. Surprisingly, the Holley Staff+Aquaris did just as good as Holley Gun+Aquaris for single target dps, so the gun definitely could use a damage stat buff. This was a pretty fun experiment to do and it was exciting trying to make this set work.

Basically, Holley Staff good and Holley Gun bad

[Oakmaiden]

I’m still not impressed after jewels were put in. Yellow sets are supposed to out rank mythic. My Bounty bow feels like more than either Holley weapon. Combined with Over Easy (another yellow set) should work better. Maybe it’s good for mage, not good for rogue. Buff the weapons or add a decent proc. Still shaking my fist at sets.. so aggravating. Adding bracelets to the mix, it’s becoming overwhelming to contemplate what to invest in.

[capeo]

I like that it doesn't proc, my old speed gear would proc when I'm running then I would be in cd when I stop to fight. If you just use it to take advantage of the speed buff it's a nice set. I tried fighting in it once, and that was enough for me to not do that again.

[Oakmaiden]

What’s the fun/point of speed if one can’t kill along the way? I’m not asking to be op in end game but able to keep up elsewhere and in events without weighing down the team. The Bounty procs on full charge, not randomly. I’m just asking for a lil luv. As a comparison, I know this only affects a small group of players, same as Spirit sets. Yet their getting some attention in a feedback thread.

[Dfgh]

What’s the fun/point of speed if one can’t kill along the way? I’m not asking to be op in end game but able to keep up elsewhere and in events without weighing down the team. The Bounty procs on full charge, not randomly. I’m just asking for a lil luv. As a comparison, I know this only affects a small group of players, same as Spirit sets. Yet their getting some attention in a feedback thread.

I would then politely suggest that you consider investing in the Kraken equipment.

[Oakmaiden]

I would then politely suggest that you consider investing in the Kraken equipment.

I would politely suggest you buy it for me as i have already invested in my current gears