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championboost
01-07-2023, 01:39 PM
Warriors get 6x Str with their ult which is completely broken
they can one shot every boss and mob and are invincible at the same time

while rogues ultimate aimedshot only does single target damage (which often even hits a mob instead boss)
and it does like 1% damage of bosses hp

@Devs Can you please just test the ult urself and try to kill elite sunken fleet boss
its literally impossible


-> Solution:
No Rogue would say no to a 6x Dex Ult like the wars one

or just buff the Rogue aimed shot ultimate damage by like 5x

Kelyx
01-07-2023, 01:41 PM
No.

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jazzbloonist
01-08-2023, 12:24 AM
5x dex? Nah. Just make it target the boss only and make it deal more damage.

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Yzorider
01-08-2023, 12:36 AM
Warriors get 6x Str with their ult which is completely broken
they can one shot every boss and mob and are invincible at the same time

while rogues ultimate aimedshot only does single target damage (which often even hits a mob instead boss)
and it does like 1% damage of bosses hp

@Devs Can you please just test the ult urself and try to kill elite sunken fleet boss
its literally impossible


-> Solution:
No Rogue would say no to a 6x Dex Ult like the wars one

or just buff the Rogue aimed shot ultimate damage by like 5xi would rather talk about changing warior ulti. Why doesn't he have 7x heal and 7x armor instead? what is the reason for making wario a killing machine?

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Staaarlord
01-08-2023, 02:52 AM
i would rather talk about changing warior ulti. Why doesn't he have 7x heal and 7x armor instead? what is the reason for making wario a killing machine?

Odesláno z mého SM-A528B pomocí Tapatalkthere is an armor cap which u can already reach without that 7x multiplier so it would be useless, besides there is the "immortality" ult on warriors which makes u not take damage or whatever

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Dozers
01-11-2023, 06:45 PM
there is an armor cap which u can already reach without that 7x multiplier so it would be useless, besides there is the "immortality" ult on warriors which makes u not take damage or whatever

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Not to mention, that immortality war ult is kind of useless still since you'd only slow down runs if you can instead just use rage and decimate stuff and not die as easily thanks to more hp.

lethal
01-12-2023, 03:12 PM
give Rogue 6x Dex would befair

championboost
01-13-2023, 06:25 PM
devs just hate rogues
-war broken ult
-rogue worst ult ever

Encryptions
01-13-2023, 06:57 PM
Me who kills all bosses in the game in seconds with ease without ult as a rog or kraken weapons.

championboost
01-13-2023, 07:50 PM
Me who one shots every boss in the game just with 300k polaris with ult as a war and no kraken weapons.


also wars can also kill every boss in the game in seconds without ult
u just dont get the point that this is about the broken ultimate wars have and the non existent rog ult

Encryptions
01-13-2023, 08:47 PM
also wars can also kill every boss in the game in seconds without ult


I'd be pleased to see a warrior kill lb Orrick / any Esunk boss without ult in seconds. Try solo elite rahabkor try solo elite mechrydon.
I solo elite rahabkor on my rog no problemo. No kraken weps.

championboost
01-13-2023, 08:51 PM
I'd be pleased to see a warrior kill lb Orrick / any Esunk boss without ult in seconds. Try solo elite rahabkor try solo elite mechrydon.

im the #1 Rogue in the game i know what im saying ur just some top 50 war even tho u have the best gear in the game and 20 ping which proves u have no clue what ur talking about

Encryptions
01-13-2023, 08:53 PM
Ok #1 rog if rogs don't need ults for anything then why buff them?

championboost
01-13-2023, 09:07 PM
Ok #1 rog if rogs don't need ults for anything then why buff them?

this is about giving rogues an ult because i dont see any

capeo
01-13-2023, 09:24 PM
I agree make one of the choices for all the class the 5x or 6x main stat. Rogue ulti is useless for killing bosses. I like the speed one but that doesn't help clear maps just collect loot or run to catch up. Its pve, I don't see why all the classes having that as a choice is bad. It doesn't negatively effect me in anyway. If it's Timed runs that upsets people most times are to fast for ulti to even charge anyway. As long as the ulti charges at the same rate for all the classes it isn't an issue.

championboost
01-14-2023, 07:48 AM
I agree make one of the choices for all the class the 5x or 6x main stat. Rogue ulti is useless for killing bosses. I like the speed one but that doesn't help clear maps just collect loot or run to catch up. Its pve, I don't see why all the classes having that as a choice is bad. It doesn't negatively effect me in anyway. If it's Timed runs that upsets people most times are to fast for ulti to even charge anyway. As long as the ulti charges at the same rate for all the classes it isn't an issue.Thank you
First Cool warrior

Kaziscate
01-14-2023, 01:08 PM
Probably would be cool to see something like a crit dmg buff on the speed or healing ult. For ult aimed shot you must have a weapon and armor proc active at the same time in order to get that big damage that you're looking for. It can be a bit difficult and requires a some precision thanks to the randomness of procs, so maybe putting on something with a haste buff or magma would help to trigger the armor proc. If you only have a weapon proc active that isn't going to cut it. Mage's meteor strike isn't so different compared to ult aimed shot when it comes to single target damage. Meteor strike does 20x-48x your damage stat, while ult aimed shot does 24.5x-45x. I have 9.8k dmg and when I have Aquaris and Ebon armor proced (17x damage buff) I was able to hit for at least 5m (it was a crit) and instantly take the elite sunken boss down to half health. I think meteor strike has a mechanic where it does less damage if it hits multiple enemies so that's its downside. I'm not very familiar with rogue gear or stats, but you might be able to get similar results if you proc pisces and abyssal armor, then swap to your best stat gear and use the ult.

While we're on the topic of ults I really would like more control over which enemy my ult hits since it is a pretty expensive skill and it never feels good when it hits the wrong enemy. Something like dragging the ult over the primary enemy I want to hit and highlighting the currently selected enemy while I'm dragging would be nice.

Mr.Loucks
01-14-2023, 06:33 PM
No one using Ultimate
Rogue Kraken bow New ultimate
Need 10 Post, hope it gets buffed xD

Itzmemohsin
01-14-2023, 09:20 PM
i would rather talk about changing warior ulti. Why doesn't he have 7x heal and 7x armor instead? what is the reason for making wario a killing machine?

Odesláno z mého SM-A528B pomocí TapatalkBtw whats the point of having 7x heal and 7x armour [which doesn't even effect because of armour cap] it's mostly useless in most maps.

Synergia
01-15-2023, 12:43 PM
The only things that is need to be changed in the rogue ultimates are:

1) Increase the minimum damage of ultimate aimed shot, so that with no procs it will deal 10-15% HP of a boss instead of 3-5%.
2) Change the healing ultimate to x2 HP boost for 15 seconds, cause potions are better than that ultimate.
That's it

championboost
01-15-2023, 01:12 PM
The only things that is need to be changed in the rogue ultimates are:

1) Increase the minimum damage of ultimate aimed shot, so that with no procs it will deal 10-15% HP of a boss instead of 3-5%.
2) Change the healing ultimate to x2 HP boost for 15 seconds, cause potions are better than that ultimate.
That's it

thats what I said increase ult aimed shot damage by 5x
ur 2) is a good idea aswell

capeo
01-15-2023, 02:05 PM
If you got the 6x main stat boost then you have time to make a couple hits just in case you hit the wrong target or miss (not an issue so much if you're not a war) the boss. We often need a couple shots at it with ulti and proc. Although, I often see mages and rogues melt a boss with whatever they have now. It would mainly help players without max gear.

Angelaxd
01-15-2023, 07:39 PM
I'd be pleased to see a warrior kill lb Orrick / any Esunk boss without ult in seconds. Try solo elite rahabkor try solo elite mechrydon.
I solo elite rahabkor on my rog no problemo. No kraken weps.

You've been in that class for 2 months and you already think you're the best, why don't you shut your mouth for once? Any rogue that has been there for more than 2 years knows very well what the creator of the Thread is referring to, every time he speaks only it is to ridicule you only

Encryptions
01-15-2023, 09:16 PM
You've been in that class for 2 months and you already think you're the best, why don't you shut your mouth for once? Any rogue that has been there for more than 2 years knows very well what the creator of the Thread is referring to, every time he speaks only it is to ridicule you only
Didn't you say you were quitting? Bye 1400 dex rog.
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Oawaoebi
01-16-2023, 02:33 AM
You've been in that class for 2 months and you already think you're the best, why don't you shut your mouth for once? Any rogue that has been there for more than 2 years knows very well what the creator of the Thread is referring to, every time he speaks only it is to ridicule you only

I mean the #1 rog made this thread. I’m sure he knows very well about his class and what he’s talking about.

But for me I’m fine give rogs x10 primary stat ult buff. In 1 week they will complain again. Rogs doesn’t have splash damage skills. You run sunken and u proc and in the time u won’t make it to kill the mini boss because you hit mobs always. Means less skilled players with less aim will have a hard time and the complains will restart. But the complain is going to be that rogs doesn’t have enough splash damage. And this will destroy the class.


Also warrior is for sure able to kill orrick and hydra in under a second. Haven’t played yet since new maps are out but the normal elite is for sure still able I suggest to use zodias sword. Put on some dmg lix and try it out.

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Angelaxd
01-16-2023, 12:36 PM
Didn't you say you were quitting? Bye 1400 dex rog.
252595

you go off topic, why does the truth burn you? The rogue needs a decent Ultimate, don't you understand that doing 1% damage with the best Ultimate he has is unfair compared to the other classes? you're new to the game ?

Angelaxd
01-16-2023, 12:39 PM
Didn't you say you were quitting? Bye 1400 dex rog.
252595

By the way, stop trying to humiliate me. Don't you understand sarcasm and that it's useless to equip yourself if there is no difficulty in the game or do you think it's worth being super strong to go to the sunken elite? you look like a newbie

Oawaoebi
01-16-2023, 12:48 PM
you go off topic, why does the truth burn you? The rogue needs a decent Ultimate, don't you understand that doing 1% damage with the best Ultimate he has is unfair compared to the other classes? you're new to the game ?

Wars don’t have high damage skills like rogs have pierce aimed shot nox bolt. Those skills do I nSame damage. I don’t see that Great War skills to deal damage. There’s a reason wars are using full buff. They have the weakest skills so allow them to hve best ultimate. Heal makes them 2 sec invulnerable. Cool but doesn’t deal damage. Jug nice but useless in pvp. Axe you can pull enemy and make him not crit venge blood 50 str 10% dmg rally cry gives u dodge. Its been a long time I have seen hammer. Chesplitter and windmill never seen in use and it’s not that valleygates or sunken doesn’t have enough mobs. It’s fact a warrior has to wait it’s procs and ultimate to kill enemies. A rog onehits mobs (a good one atleast) mage does mob control waits for proc and burns enemies. But a war has to wait all there procs and with their low range attack always stand in the mob they want attack and be lucky to kill the mini in sunken. For me warrior needs a big buff no doubt. Maybe some rogs should go start playing war and then come back and tell how cool war is to play and the amount of benefits. Warrior as boss killer also means many gold loot fails.

See you next week when you played warrior and give a feedback if the warrior ult is still the problem. Have mercy with wars.


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Titanium
01-16-2023, 04:14 PM
im the #1 Rogue in the game i know what im saying


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recilencia123
01-16-2023, 05:55 PM
-1, rouge is good rn doesn'n need ultimate like warr

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Encryptions
01-16-2023, 06:18 PM
Ok the reason I disagree with the rogue 3x 4x 5x 6x dex is because of this. I am able to get over 200k damage with 2 procs on my rog. With 20k damage which is easily achievable our aimshots do 200k+ damage. With 200k damage my aimshots hit for over 6mil damage, ultimate aimshot hits for 16mil damage. Now say we do add the 5x dex ulti, 200k base damage becomes around 1mil. Now my aimshots do over 20mil damage.
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championboost
01-16-2023, 08:28 PM
Ok the reason I disagree with the rogue 3x 4x 5x 6x dex is because of this. I am able to get over 200k damage with 2 procs on my rog. With 20k damage which is easily achievable our aimshots do 200k+ damage. With 200k damage my aimshots hit for over 6mil damage, ultimate aimshot hits for 16mil damage. Now say we do add the 5x dex ulti, 200k base damage becomes around 1mil. Now my aimshots do over 20mil damage.
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why dont you make an objective video where u try to kill sunk boss 10 times in a row with rog ult then u use war ult 10 times in a row - also dont make any cuts . we all know u like to fake ur videos
stop making stupid posts where u try to make it look like rogue ult is good
#fakestats #fakeencryptions

recilencia123
01-16-2023, 08:30 PM
why dont you make an objective video where u try to kill sunk boss 10 times in a row with rog ult then u use war ult 10 times in a row - also dont make any cuts . we all know u like to fake ur videos
stop making stupid posts where u try to make it look like rogue ult is good
#fakestats #fakeencryptionsRelax man, it's true rouge don't need ultimate for kill the boss like war, u just need to be intelligent and make a combination with zaar set and pets.

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Encryptions
01-16-2023, 08:43 PM
why dont you make an objective video where u try to kill sunk boss 10 times in a row with rog ult then u use war ult 10 times in a row - also dont make any cuts . we all know u like to fake ur videos
stop making stupid posts where u try to make it look like rogue ult is good
#fakestats #fakeencryptions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65M-zj-U5pU&t=84s

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65M-zj-U5pU&t=84s)I don't know if you have the ability to read or understand but I am not saying rogues ultimate is good. If you would put your brain back into your skull you would understand that I am saying rogues do not need any ultimates at the moment. Also making the ultimate aimshot better would do absolutely nothing at all because we don't even use our ulti in any maps right now. The only people who use ulti is low lvl rogues getting to level 81 because you actually get your ulti in older maps before you reach the boss. The ulti already 1 shots those bosses, at level 67 people are running underhul and possibly festerfang. Please when suggesting stuff use logic, no one these days is using logic at all to justify their suggestions. People just look at things and are like "Oh thats good lets add it" and don't look at any cons.

A better suggestion is to possibly make it to where minibosses fill up 25% of your ultimate in zodias zones which would fill 75% of your ulti up and the other 25% would be from mobs so everyone would have their ulti. Then look into making a new ulti because ultimate aimshot its trash even if it gets buffed. I mean really who wants to 1 shot the boss without a gold loot set on? Even if you do 4x dex ulti thats still going to happen with the 1shot thing, so think of an ulti that would be beneficial. Idk one off the top of my head thats pristine but maybe an ulti that cuts everyones gear proc cooldown times by 65% for 35 seconds.

xbell
01-17-2023, 05:50 AM
Wars don’t have high damage skills like rogs have pierce aimed shot nox bolt. Those skills do I nSame damage. I don’t see that Great War skills to deal damage. There’s a reason wars are using full buff. They have the weakest skills so allow them to hve best ultimate. Heal makes them 2 sec invulnerable. Cool but doesn’t deal damage. Jug nice but useless in pvp. Axe you can pull enemy and make him not crit venge blood 50 str 10% dmg rally cry gives u dodge. Its been a long time I have seen hammer. Chesplitter and windmill never seen in use and it’s not that valleygates or sunken doesn’t have enough mobs. It’s fact a warrior has to wait it’s procs and ultimate to kill enemies. A rog onehits mobs (a good one atleast) mage does mob control waits for proc and burns enemies. But a war has to wait all there procs and with their low range attack always stand in the mob they want attack and be lucky to kill the mini in sunken. For me warrior needs a big buff no doubt. Maybe some rogs should go start playing war and then come back and tell how cool war is to play and the amount of benefits. Warrior as boss killer also means many gold loot fails.

See you next week when you played warrior and give a feedback if the warrior ult is still the problem. Have mercy with wars.


Gesendet von iPhone mit TapatalkYeah wars doesn't have high skills damage.
And the str doesn't give much to war damage, like dex for rogue or int for mage. So if other class get the 6x primary stats would be broken. It would be better just to buff the aim ult of rogue. As you can see the new kraken weapon of rogue and mage excel than wars, because they don't need ult to kill boss. They lower the damage of new kraken weapon of wars cuz last time mythic is op.

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snakeeyes
01-17-2023, 11:06 AM
- 1 No to buffs and nerf to all class we achieve the balance now, if dev do that the other class user feel jelous and it will follow a request and complain one by one buffs war nerf rogue buffs rogue nerf war and mage until the balance that made by dev destroy. Buffs nerf buffs nerf buff nerf again and again forever,

championboost
01-17-2023, 12:38 PM
- 1 No to buffs and nerf to all class we achieve the balance now, if dev do that the other class user feel jelous and it will follow a request and complain one by one buffs war nerf rogue buffs rogue nerf war and mage until the balance that made by dev destroy. Buffs nerf buffs nerf buff nerf again and again forever,

english please
but i agree rogue ult needs a buff

snakeeyes
01-17-2023, 02:16 PM
english please
but i agree rogue ult needs a buff
let's not be blind to what the sts did and are doing for us players, they have made every class balanced don't be greedy with strength, try to proc the kraken bow and armor and use the ultimate aim and you can almost do it kill the boss in esunk like warior does with rage ulti, only mage and rogue can kill the boss in esunk fast and solo without using ultimate while warior can't, but warior is rare and almost never dies and that's the opposite of the rogue who dies easily.

championboost
01-17-2023, 04:11 PM
I like how people say wars have "bad " single target damage without ult when #1 hydra runs are solo wars because they have the best single target damage