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Rodrigo Maia
02-07-2023, 04:07 PM
I would like to know if there are any bugs with boss damage stats, it doesn't seem to work properly, me using a low dex set still looks better than my high BD set.
I tested it on all bosses, and it doesn't seem to work. Which makes me think they have a bug, hope someone can explain to me how ET/BD works now because it's different from how it was.

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kulldeepboro
02-07-2023, 06:31 PM
not a dev but probably some bug (not a new thing)

bd/ed already rusted like other awakes .

WAS useful during 76 .

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memphis
02-07-2023, 07:31 PM
not bugged its just not that good as it only counts for ur base damage

Sungee
02-07-2023, 07:37 PM
I see a same prob, better we go build full stats than BD/ed now

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Kaziscate
02-07-2023, 07:39 PM
Last I tested, the percentages for elite damage, boss damage, and stacking damage seemed to be additive instead of multiplicative, meaning if I had 20% boss, 20% elite, and 20% stacking damage it would be a 60% damage buff instead of 72.8% buff, but I could be wrong. It's hard to say for sure since damage numbers are random.

memphis
02-07-2023, 08:05 PM
just build primary stats

Elec
02-07-2023, 08:51 PM
I feel the same.
I bought kraken ring that gives better str, dmg, crit and 22bd than my insidious ring but insidious does more dmg on Erahab somehow.
I'm not sure if bd is actually working too.

Advocacies
02-07-2023, 08:57 PM
Same here feels like no impact at all xd

Xyv.io
02-08-2023, 01:54 AM
Let's say u have 10k damage with full kraken set. You have all ur procs on right now and u reach 90k damage, now what happens is all ur bd and ed awakes are calculated by taking ur base damage (10k). So let's say u have 100% bd, u get +10k damage vs all bosses but then when you're proc'd u still get +10k damage on top of ur 90k (100k damage on boss).
This means ur 100% bd turns out to be +11% damage only when ur procs are up xd. You will feel the difference of bd and ed without any procs, which you did I bet with mythic set and bow cuz there weren't a lot of damage buff procs.

gunstick
02-08-2023, 02:11 AM
Let's say u have 10k damage with full kraken set. You have all ur procs on right now and u reach 90k damage, now what happens is all ur bd and ed awakes are calculated by taking ur base damage (10k). So let's say u have 100% bd, u get +10k damage vs all bosses but then when you're proc'd u still get +10k damage on top of ur 90k (100k damage on boss).
This means ur 100% bd turns out to be +11% damage only when ur procs are up xd. You will feel the difference of bd and ed without any procs, which you did I bet with mythic set and bow cuz there weren't a lot of damage buff procs.If bd and ed calculating on our base dmg and not proc dmg then how we used to deal so much dmg back then(when proc stacking was a thing) in elite valley gates with bd/ed awake gears?

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Mitsooos
02-08-2023, 06:31 AM
Seems to not work the boss damage !
The elite damage I don't think IF ever worked.

KRAKEN ARMOR PROC + KRAKEN GUN PROC NO PET
With 5100 damage with 30%bd +10% ed I see max number on infested 900k
And with 5200 damage with 136%bd +25% ed I see max number on infected 1300k.
To me seems the devs to forget that 100% boss damage is 2X damage
I tested on infected because it was the fastest map for testing. (The numbers of damage is what I see on screen, not on main character view)

Xyv.io
02-08-2023, 02:38 PM
If bd and ed calculating on our base dmg and not proc dmg then how we used to deal so much dmg back then(when proc stacking was a thing) in elite valley gates with bd/ed awake gears?

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Because back then Duggar bow gave no damage buff, so bd and ed was strong af. Also sunken armor proc was super short making you not rely completely on the armor proc unlike we do right now.

Ed_
02-08-2023, 03:28 PM
That was interesting to know...

kevin11
02-08-2023, 06:12 PM
@Cinco

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Advocacies
02-08-2023, 08:50 PM
Because back then Duggar bow gave no damage buff, so bd and ed was strong af. Also sunken armor proc was super short making you not rely completely on the armor proc unlike we do right now.

As i remember during evg days bd awaken heavily rely on procs since they don't have big base dmg due to lacking %primary

People with 150+ bd have 1.3-1-4k primary
So they heavily rely on skratch staff + ebon combo for dmg

(Mage perspective bd%) i had friends using bd meta back then so I've seen their actual stats

Rodrigo Maia
02-09-2023, 11:16 PM
I was testing on Elite Rahabkor both sets the difference between DEX and BD is insane, even with 250% BD and 95% ET on proc (without AA) , my set dex is still much better.

I would like to know if this is a bug, if BD doesn't work anymore it should be explicit so that other players don't spend millions of gold on items that won't help at all.

I expect some answers from the Dev, in case BD really doesn't work anymore I can focus on what really works.

Sorry for the English, I hope you guys can understand.

@Cinco


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Kakashis
02-09-2023, 11:35 PM
Someone created an ultimate 300% boss damage set. It ripped the bosses dead in one charged kraken bow + armor shot no additional shots fired. Shortly after, boss damage and elite damage mysteriously only works off base damage. Instead of 70-80K damage under proc multiplied by 3 to be over 240K, it's now 100-110K max. That's why most people after proc with kraken dags, they switch to a high base damage set like the Zaarus set and do incredible damage. They haven't nerfed set switching at least.

Advocacies
02-10-2023, 04:46 AM
@cinco @devs please confirm T-T bd not doing dmg as it used to

-awti

Mitsooos
02-10-2023, 08:35 AM
I don't know about main stats mythic sets because I never use them , but my equipment has 22% to all stats, and my not boss, and boss equipment is the same type with different awakenings.(all 81lvl arcanes) (is same stats, same jewelry only different awakenings)
Is hard to see the numbers on my screen when fighting bosses, so I have make 2 videos to watch them multiple times,
from total 40% of bd +ed to 160% bd +ed I see +50% only to damage .
I write this again because I have make a post about it and get from devs the know answer that everything works just fine and nothing have changed to bd.

Staaarlord
02-10-2023, 08:50 AM
I don't know about main stats mythic sets because I never use them , but my equipment has 22% to all stats, and my not boss, and boss equipment is the same type with different awakenings.(all 81lvl arcanes) (is same stats, same jewelry only different awakenings)
Is hard to see the numbers on my screen when fighting bosses, so I have make 2 videos to watch them multiple times,
from total 40% of bd +ed to 160% bd +ed I see +50% only to damage .
I write this again because I have make a post about it and get from devs the know answer that everything works just fine and nothing have changed to bd.Just read what xyv.io wrote...bd/ed is only affecting your base dmg (elixirs, procs dont count) meanwhile stats awakes r amped by any dmg%, with such high amount of procs and elixirs/oils available nowadays, going for stats is just way better, but its not bad to have some bd/ed in the mix

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Futumsh
02-10-2023, 09:58 AM
boss/elite damage are functioning as expected and have not changed. Closing.