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Cero
09-01-2012, 04:42 PM
http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa415/pronexus/b8d03ec2e834bef74d50b69aa8728f3e.jpg


As we noticed 'Kyth is a Fire Element monster and my recent build goes to that side. So i decided to test out Fire Aura.
look at the buff beside my Blood pool.
i used FA and Unholy Blessing

with the skills i used it should do a decent DPS but 'kyth doesnt affected with my Fire.

DB - i also went to test DB, it also doesnt do any dmg but only roots 'kyth to his foot.

so i believe fa and db are useless to 'kyth. but i would like Cara or other devs to give us some words.





PS: as u noticed skills were just recently casted but i already tested those skills for many times.
pic is only for good screenshot:)

Lowlyspy
09-01-2012, 05:00 PM
That's a nice feature to him, adds another bit of strategy. Off topic, somebody really wanted to give you a hug.

XchilangopwnX
09-01-2012, 05:15 PM
Good theory. I have too noticed that DB doesn't do much damage when casted, if any at all. I don't have FA so I cannot test that.

Dev confirmation would suffice to sate our inquiries.

Cero
09-01-2012, 05:46 PM
a dev's confirmation for this would realy needed.

Jcyee
09-01-2012, 06:12 PM
Hmm. Never noticed that. Weird...

Rare
09-01-2012, 06:18 PM
http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa415/pronexus/b8d03ec2e834bef74d50b69aa8728f3e.jpg


As we noticed 'Kyth is a Fire Element monster and my recent build goes to that side. So i decided to test out Fire Aura.
look at the buff beside my Blood pool.
i used FA and Unholy Blessing

with the skills i used it should do a decent DPS but 'kyth doesnt affected with my Fire.

DB - i also went to test DB, it also doesnt do any dmg but only roots 'kyth to his foot.

so i believe fa and db are useless to 'kyth. but i would like Cara or other devs to give us some words.





PS: as u noticed skills were just recently casted but i already tested those skills for many times.
pic is only for good screenshot:)

I could have swore i saw pretty significant damage from dark binding. Could be wrong though.

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monarchival
09-01-2012, 06:25 PM
Another thing i noticed is if u dont have aggro u can stay inside his shield and not take damage. Seems to work best if ur by the shield rock circle.

Cero
09-01-2012, 06:41 PM
Another thing i noticed is if u dont have aggro u can stay inside his shield and not take damage. Seems to work best if ur by the shield rock circle.

yup. noticed that too.

I'm Siri
09-02-2012, 12:18 AM
Nice pic.
Harg'Kyth: Give me a hug babe!!!
Scotchtape: ewww....let me go!!!

monarchival
09-02-2012, 12:23 AM
http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa415/pronexus/b8d03ec2e834bef74d50b69aa8728f3e.jpg


As we noticed 'Kyth is a Fire Element monster and my recent build goes to that side. So i decided to test out Fire Aura.
look at the buff beside my Blood pool.
i used FA and Unholy Blessing

with the skills i used it should do a decent DPS but 'kyth doesnt affected with my Fire.

DB - i also went to test DB, it also doesnt do any dmg but only roots 'kyth to his foot.

so i believe fa and db are useless to 'kyth. but i would like Cara or other devs to give us some words.





PS: as u noticed skills were just recently casted but i already tested those skills for many times.
pic is only for good screenshot:)

Just noticed the pic....good thing u have a helmet on or ur head would be a pancake. :)

YuNoEatBeaRs
09-02-2012, 06:17 AM
I'm not sure if it's only me, but vermin swarm, dark binding and charged fatal burst doesn't seem to do any dmg to him for me.

I don't have fire aura but i believe it hurts him (unless he has his shield up), as he goes down really really fast if someone on my team has it.

As for the no dmg while inside shield and not having aggro, i believe u DO take dmg but it's DoT, with the health regen u get from breaking stones you kinda resist that dot dmg so end up taking no dmg.

now i'm not 100% sure about all of the above, just some personal observations :)

Eclisse
09-02-2012, 08:11 AM
Fire aura works sometimes..not always
i can see it burning

Cero
09-02-2012, 09:07 AM
Idk. Ive tested it myself with unholly blessing but i dont see the dmg.

Bossdude
09-02-2012, 11:00 PM
[QUOTE=Cero;767486]http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa415/pronexus/b8d03ec2e834bef74d50b69aa8728f3e.jpg

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now thats a bear hug!

Junside
09-02-2012, 11:13 PM
I think you're right. Good thing I have a crit and dps build... :p

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Tazaris
09-03-2012, 04:06 PM
This is my theory and my opinion.

I think that FA and DB works, expecialy when bumped up with unholy lessing, but when the shield is hightened then harg'kyth become near as invulnerable to the attacks and you get hit by fire (plus).

Inside the shield sometimes i'm not hit and sometimes i get heavy damage (perhaps a glitch or there's a little area not covered... ?) or perhaps the damage you take is compensated by the bonus you get (health regen bumped up) by destroying the stones.

Ciauz!

Carapace
09-03-2012, 04:23 PM
I can confirm what you are eluding to, Obsidian and Hargkyth do not take damage from Fire Aura. The feeling you have from damage output regarding Dark Binding has to do with his Healing Obsidian Stone. Since Dark Binding and Vermin swarm do damage over time, the effects of the healing are keeping it more or less level while the Obsidian is up.

I could go into more but it's way more entertaining to see the strategies you guys come up with to deal with his buffs!

In regards to his "damage spike" inside the fire bubble, there does appear to be a minor visual glitch in where he does not properly do the animation. If you get hit heavy and knocked around you were hit by an appropriate ability, but the animation did not fire correctly.

Cero
09-03-2012, 06:24 PM
I can confirm what you are eluding to, Obsidian and Hargkyth do not take damage from Fire Aura. The feeling you have from damage output regarding Dark Binding has to do with his Healing Obsidian Stone. Since Dark Binding and Vermin swarm do damage over time, the effects of the healing are keeping it more or less level while the Obsidian is up.

I could go into more but it's way more entertaining to see the strategies you guys come up with to deal with his buffs!

In regards to his "damage spike" inside the fire bubble, there does appear to be a minor visual glitch in where he does not properly do the animation. If you get hit heavy and knocked around you were hit by an appropriate ability, but the animation did not fire correctly.


correct me if im wrong, translating this with my own understanding.

-'Kyth is immune to FA (for he is a Fire element monster?)
-Destroying the Odsidain "Healing" Stone would make VS and DB more effective.



Thanks Carapace,
<3

Carapace
09-03-2012, 06:38 PM
correct me if im wrong, translating this with my own understanding.

-'Kyth is immune to FA (for he is a Fire element monster?)
-Destroying the Odsidain "Healing" Stone would make VS and DB more effective.



Thanks Carapace,
<3

You got it :vsmile:

Cero
09-03-2012, 06:47 PM
woot,

thanks much.

at first i thought those shield,speed,health and dmg stones are power ups for us.lol

now i know , destroying obsidain stones would weaken 'kyth.

Tenebrific
09-04-2012, 04:35 AM
When it has the shield on n is pointing another player (following him) I go n hit it from bk, I get no dmg at all lol

FallenOne
09-04-2012, 05:37 AM
I can confirm what you are eluding to, Obsidian and Hargkyth do not take damage from Fire Aura. The feeling you have from damage output regarding Dark Binding has to do with his Healing Obsidian Stone. Since Dark Binding and Vermin swarm do damage over time, the effects of the healing are keeping it more or less level while the Obsidian is up.

I could go into more but it's way more entertaining to see the strategies you guys come up with to deal with his buffs!

In regards to his "damage spike" inside the fire bubble, there does appear to be a minor visual glitch in where he does not properly do the animation. If you get hit heavy and knocked around you were hit by an appropriate ability, but the animation did not fire correctly.

nope, doesn't work for me. VS still doesn't work even if health stone is down.

Rare
09-04-2012, 09:16 AM
nope, doesn't work for me. VS still doesn't work even if health stone is down.

When you say "doesn't work for me" what do you mean? Its not hitting? Or its not doing damage?

YuNoEatBeaRs
09-04-2012, 11:25 AM
Both, VS doesn't work at all for me either, no dmg no visuals.

EDIT: and no, health obsidian isn't up.

Rare
09-04-2012, 12:03 PM
Both, VS doesn't work at all for me either, no dmg no visuals.

EDIT: and no, health obsidian isn't up.

Well as for the damage, I don't think you'll see much with the skills alone.

Also, with DB, you should see Harg stop moving when he's bound. I personally haven't seen any issues using these two skills.

StompArtist
09-04-2012, 01:00 PM
A pee emote would be useful!

Tenebrific
09-04-2012, 04:35 PM
I prefer using the weapon n at time spamming powers

YuNoEatBeaRs
09-04-2012, 04:52 PM
Okay, i just tested in solo

Vermin swarm charged and uncharged does no dmg whatsoever, the hp bar doesn't move one bit, not even fill and refill (although he doesn't regen w/o health obsidian) and ofc hp regen obsidian.

Dark binding does no dmg, but he gets snared for less than a second, i can see blood, but again no dmg at all.

Charged fatal burst, does no dmg either.

I'm not sure if i'm blind or not, but would someone kindly run a solo and test those again?

EDIT: just tested again with a friend and same results, now there could be two crazy ppl, or what's above is true, need someone from here to test and confirm.

Carapace
09-05-2012, 05:14 PM
Harg'kyth is also immune to bleed effects :vsmile:

HunterSLAYER
09-05-2012, 08:48 PM
Harg'kyth is also immune to bleed effects :vsmile:

It's so fat one pierce from an axe/sword and he'll bleed to death from the fats spilling out of his body LOL.

Sry cara, just got a little bit bored. :)

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TheoriginalTank
01-25-2013, 08:20 AM
Another thing i noticed is if u dont have aggro u can stay inside his shield and not take damage. Seems to work best if ur by the shield rock circle.

What do you mean if you don't have aggro? Meaning if you don't hit him?

Also, can someone tell me what DoTs means too? I know it's probably a noob question, but if I never ask I will never know.

Thx.

Rothschild
01-25-2013, 08:37 PM
DoT means Damage over Time spells like Fire Aura and Dark Binding and Vermin Swarm. They do damage with every "tick" of time in game til spell runs its course.
Aggro is uaually on the person who is doing the most damage to Harg. always the first person there or the first attacker will get aggro from Harg but if somebody else is doing more damage then they will get aggro and that is who he will attack instead (directly). He has AoE attacks as well (area of effect) which damages everybody around him in a certain radius.
Hope that helps.