Regarding Vermin Swarm

[FallenOne]

for like vermin swarm, doesn't it say like charged 8 targets, 127 dp + 5 second stun?
does it mean like theres 8 mice and each one will do 127 dp?
if so whats the maximum amount of mice and sometimes when I use it nothing happens at all....
also I don't think its effective on the new boss right?

[Synergistic]

not 8 mice, 8 bats. And it is more of a mobbing skill.
If you are intending to use in on bosses, dark binding would be a better choice.

[Rare]

for like vermin swarm, doesn't it say like charged 8 targets, 127 dp + 5 second stun?
does it mean like theres 8 mice and each one will do 127 dp?
if so whats the maximum amount of mice and sometimes when I use it nothing happens at all....
also I don't think its effective on the new boss right?

Its effective on the new boss. But Harg has pretty high regen. You can tell the difference if you attack while VS/DB are in effect. If you only use skills you won't see much damage.

You'll notice if you only attack, you don't see much damage. If you only use skills you also wont see much damage. If you attack and use skills, you'll see the health bar decrease, albeit slowly.

[Lady_Pebbles]

Aedenos is right but don't forget that destroying the shield (blue) and hp stones (green), it will weaken him & allow your DB/VS to go through.

[Ghosti]

not 8 mice, 8 bats. And it is more of a mobbing skill.
If you are intending to use in on bosses, dark binding would be a better choice.

8 rats** sorry XD

[FallenOne]

so the damage is 127x8? isn't that supposed to be like 1016?

[Rare]

so the damage is 127x8? isn't that supposed to be like 1016?

I don't think the number of rats matters. It's just 127. I could be wrong though

[FallenOne]

I don't think the number of rats matters. It's just 127. I could be wrong though

Thats why I'm asking. It doesn't look like a mere 127 damage.

[wvhills]

when it says 8 targets that's how many enemies it attacks, not how many rats you see. The big deal with charging vermin swarm in pve isn't how much more damage per second it does, it's the fact that it attacks 8 targets instead of 4 (or however many the non charged version does). The power description says 127 dps and a 5 second stun. It doesn't specifically say the damage lasts for 5 secs but I assume that's what it is since the stun lasts 5 seconds. so that would be 127 x5 = 635 damage. However, in pvp I've noticed that distance has an effect on damage also. If I was close to someone and got swarmed the rats would eat me for a long time and I'd see a lot of my health drain. If I were at the edge of the 12m range the rats would only eat me for a little bit and I'd only see a fraction of my health go down.

[Qingsanale1st]

lol yea, and i see another glitch with swarm, is that it makes your circle flash, too soon before the actual red bar finishes charging... grr....