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FluffNStuff
09-09-2012, 07:08 PM
There seems to be a a quest where if you kill some boss a couple thousand time you are given an elite weapon. That is work, not a game. Where is the thrill of chance? This has probably been mentioned before in a more eloquent way, but I just got back from spending four days with the future in-laws so do not have the time or energy to use the search.

Zeus
09-09-2012, 07:09 PM
I agree, it's like grinding to L72 with 200k xp.

WoundedEagle
09-09-2012, 07:12 PM
Agreed.

LwMark
09-09-2012, 07:19 PM
Puttin in work

FluffNStuff
09-09-2012, 07:20 PM
I agree, it's like grinding to L72 with 200k xp.

OMG, it really is like grinding XP. Maybe I will wait till I can combine the 4X dragon drop elixir with the 2X week long dragon doodie elixir of the elite.

Zeus
09-09-2012, 07:20 PM
Puttin in work

I'd rather not slave hours on running maps when I already did that for 71 twice.

Suentous PO
09-09-2012, 07:29 PM
Well in fairness we have been asking for a new epic cyber/snowball type quest.

Elyseon
09-09-2012, 07:30 PM
I just wish u got one everytime
It's just really discouraging for me when I do like 6 runs
That's y I have barely played, if they gave it a 100% chance I probably woulda put in a solid few hundred runs by now, but doing 8 runs every now and then has brought me to a mere 67 runs with 16 of the ichors

Zeus
09-09-2012, 07:31 PM
Well in fairness we have been asking for a new epic cyber/snowball type quest.

True, but cyber wasn't this long, lol...

& those were the achievements for that level. L71 is the achievement for this cap, no?

Regardless, since I love the preview, I'll be grinding for it anyways but I just wished the quest wasn't so repetitive.

FluffNStuff
09-09-2012, 07:33 PM
Well in fairness we have been asking for a new epic cyber/snowball type quest.

I was not aware people were asking for them. I am personally against them as I consider them work and not fun, but do others players prefer work over chance?

Elyseon
09-09-2012, 07:35 PM
Even if they made it multiple quests it woulda made it better, like kill boss 100x = get a gem
Kill 500 of the minions = get a recipe
Destroy that weird totem type thing(forget actually name :P)
50x = get magic ore
Then u go craft it, also if they threw in a full elite dungeon like shadow caves with like mazes with 200 enemies per map with mini bosses as well as multiple bosses and some rare spawning bosses with several maps woulda added some variety

LwMark
09-09-2012, 07:35 PM
Elite weps call for elite measures, just like grindin for the old elite vanities, good thing about this u can tell who really is a true player compared to a l71 with 1k kills who just used 8x+ the whole way

Elyseon
09-09-2012, 07:36 PM
Also I'll probably at this point just wait till next cap so I can double up xp and ichors

Zeus
09-09-2012, 07:37 PM
Elite weps call for elite measures, just like grindin for the old elite vanities, good thing about this u can tell who really is a true player compared to a l71 with 1k kills who just used 8x+ the whole way

So people with multiple 71s aren't a true elite?

WoundedEagle
09-09-2012, 07:37 PM
I was not aware people were asking for them. I am personally against them as I consider them work and not fun, but do others players prefer work over chance?

Is it safe to say grinding level caps aren't fun either?

Elyseon
09-09-2012, 07:37 PM
Elite weps call for elite measures, just like grindin for the old elite vanities, good thing about this u can tell who really is a true player compared to a l71 with 1k kills who just used 8x+ the whole way

So people with multiple 71s aren't a true elite?
Nah bruh! Get the weap or sts resets u to level 1

LwMark
09-09-2012, 07:38 PM
Elite weps call for elite measures, just like grindin for the old elite vanities, good thing about this u can tell who really is a true player compared to a l71 with 1k kills who just used 8x+ the whole way

So people with multiple 71s aren't a true elite?
If u have 1k kills

Zeus
09-09-2012, 07:39 PM
If u have 1k kills

That's not even true, majority of L71s have at least 10k kills.

Suentous PO
09-09-2012, 07:40 PM
I hear ya, it tedious for sure. In the time it took me to get this, not even a hundred ichors, I could have made a couple mil.
I was just trying to give em credit if they made this because they read some interest in epic quests, and try to give us what we want.

ArtofWar
09-09-2012, 07:42 PM
i think i'll wait until the cap raise and do the quest then.. at the moment is to do the quest senseless.. lol

Zeus
09-09-2012, 07:42 PM
I hear ya, it tedious for sure. In the time it took me to get this, not even a hundred ichors, I could have made a couple mil.
I was just trying to give em credit if they made this because they read some interest in epic quests, and try to give us what we want.

It's kinda like asking for a slice of the wedding cake and instead getting the whole cake shoved into your mouth at once. It's just too much to swallow.

Elyseon
09-09-2012, 07:43 PM
The quest is too long for one boring map, it's not hard, and it the only place to run, and it's nothing secret about it

WoundedEagle
09-09-2012, 07:43 PM
That's not even true, majority of L71s have at least 10k kills.

He was exaggerating (right? o.o). In my opinion, they drop rate of inchors should just be increased. Maybe every other run? I like the idea of having one true Elite quest; even if the work is painful.

Elyseon
09-09-2012, 07:45 PM
He was exaggerating (right? o.o). In my opinion, they drop rate of inchors should just be increased. Maybe every other run? I like the idea of having one true Elite quest; even if the work is painful.
IMO there's a difference between elite and monotony

LwMark
09-09-2012, 07:46 PM
If u have 1k kills

That's not even true, majority of L71s have at least 10k kills.

...comon u kno what i mean, this shows who can put in work an not depend on 48x elexiers, it truely is elite IMO

Mcpastry
09-09-2012, 07:47 PM
I just hope they give us a reasonable amount to complete the quest...

WoundedEagle
09-09-2012, 07:47 PM
IMO there's a difference between elite and monotony

Good point. Maybe they should lower it down to 250? There isn't much to work without STS going "Can the idea and make the item just available to anyone that can do one run in a map."

Traebeles99
09-09-2012, 07:51 PM
Is it safe to say grinding level caps aren't fun either?

i hate this this is why i cannot get to the cap ever i always make it to 70 or 75 gonna be but will never make it to 71 or 76 cus to much xp and soon might be this cap go to 150k xp just is getting crazy if u ask me.

Elyseon
09-09-2012, 07:52 PM
I think it should be reduced to like 100
But make the dungeon actually elite, like shadow caves were
I can tank like the half the first rooms mob with a 2h sword equipped
Yeh with a thrasher but we no theyre not gonna make it elixir free

Zeus
09-09-2012, 07:55 PM
...comon u kno what i mean, this shows who can put in work an not depend on 48x elexiers, it truely is elite IMO

But you were taking it to the extremes, lol.

Elyseon
09-09-2012, 07:57 PM
I used a 100x elixir so it took me 1000 kills exactly to hit 71 from 70 I'm pro cuz I solo'd it

FluffNStuff
09-09-2012, 08:02 PM
Is it safe to say grinding level caps aren't fun either?

It really is not fun, but they are separate. I see the game as a casino. You need to get to standard level cap to get access to the casino. I actually grinded to the elite cap for the first time which was boring because it gave me access to a VIP section of the casino. But once you have access, the casino is fun. But this casino is not fun. It is a slot machine with a 100% payout, as long as you pull the lever 2000 times. That is not gambling, that is working.

Ihavenokills
09-09-2012, 08:05 PM
the snowball quest is annoying as it is, i can't imagine how this one is and i haven't even started it yet.

United
09-09-2012, 08:08 PM
was thinking of the same, and saw this post.
1000-1500 runs of this boring map to get 500 inchors

been playing on and off for about a day n got 34/500. its very boring

Ogbuehi
09-09-2012, 08:23 PM
I'm a 71 with 29k+ kills who used the heck out of elixirs. I don't see how you can make it to 71 without a decent amount of kills, even with elixirs. The biggest problem I have with these extreme quests is that the payout isn't even worth it. By the time I completed snowballs or cyber, the items were worthless to me. I was already too high of a level and could easily just do a couple runs through Mt. Fang or Humania and get regular drops that were way better. And you can't even trade or sell the stuff, making it more worthless. At least make the reward worth it for awhile. Like a pink that's powerful enough to last through 10-15 levels of rank.

Ixillicus
09-09-2012, 08:24 PM
I have to say that I find the quest to be a little too monotonous. The map is simple and there are only 2 drops (for each class).

It was a popular request to have an elite campaign added, so I don't get complaining about it now that we have one. Maybe we can focus on how to improve it to meet our expectations.

1. Needs more diversity. I know it's just a preview, but I feel if we are expected to play it that many times to reach a goal there should be more to it. Mini boss, mobs, etc. I understand that as a preview, more content won't be added to it. Perhaps adding more drops, craftables or something mentioned above would make the time/reward balance more worthwhile.

2. The drop rate of ichors is discouraging. If I'm doing something that boring I want something to show for it each time. Even if I needed 1200 instead of 500, I wouldn't be as upset as long as I got one every time. In our previous Elite quests the items dropped from mobs, so even though it was long, it felt less repetitive then just getting one a run (if that!)

McBain
09-09-2012, 08:26 PM
Well, think of it this way. Even if there was no inchor quest, you'd still probably be running the map thousands of times to farm for the black dragon gear, right? I know I would. So it's the same thing you'd be doing anyway, except you get a guaranteed prize at the end. What's not to like?

Maybe it's a bit overkill. They could have gone with just having to get 250 instead of 500 and it still would have been a ton of work. Even still, it's nice that, once in a while, people who spend platinum like it's going out of style on thrashers and shamus elixirs don't get everything so easily.

Elyseon
09-09-2012, 08:28 PM
Like snowballs were 1000 but u got like 30+ a run
Cyber took 150 boss kills but you could get 4 a run
The shadow part of cyber was kinda just as discouraging but it was only 30 so it seemed doable

CrimsonTider
09-09-2012, 08:31 PM
I would much rather grind for a certainty than for a chance. I have done enough Fang runs for the dragon vanities to have earned 2 elite weapons. (And still have yet to even see a dragon vanity drop.)

Reddwing
09-09-2012, 08:33 PM
Like snowballs were 1000 but u got like 30+ a run
Cyber took 150 boss kills but you could get 4 a run
The shadow part of cyber was kinda just as discouraging but it was only 30 so it seemed doable
It's only 25 and sill discouraging lol. Especially when it's you and a bunch of level 40s. xD

Elyseon
09-09-2012, 08:36 PM
It's 25 shadows and then 5 essences for the shield which those are like a double chance lol have to hope for a shadow prisoner and then it's like 50/50 from that

ZHEOTARE
09-09-2012, 08:39 PM
Like snowballs were 1000 but u got like 30+ a run
Cyber took 150 boss kills but you could get 4 a run
The shadow part of cyber was kinda just as discouraging but it was only 30 so it seemed doable

^^this^^

I'm one that has asked for long quest, and keeping legendary drops some what low and consistent from map to map. This quest is ridiculous IMO. Sometimes I go 10 runs, and nothing, then get 2 or 3 in the next few runs, then back to nothing. At least make the drop rate 50/50. That's at most 1000 runs to complete the quest. Or better yet, make the mystery map boss drop them too.

Bebsi
09-09-2012, 08:40 PM
Nah bruh! Get the weap or sts resets u to level 1

lmao

Lowlyspy
09-09-2012, 08:44 PM
Also I'll probably at this point just wait till next cap so I can double up xp and ichors

i think i'll wait until the cap raise and do the quest then.. at the moment is to do the quest senseless.. lol

Didn't Techno say they were only available until the next cap? Unless something has changed since friday, haven't been foruming much.

Darkterror
09-09-2012, 08:44 PM
I think the quest would have being better if it was 1000 instead of 500 . With the same drop rate. For Elite BETWEEN elites....

Elyseon
09-09-2012, 08:47 PM
I'm one that has asked for long quest, and keeping legendary drops some what low and consistent from map to map. This quest is ridiculous IMO. Sometimes I go 10 runs, and nothing, then get 2 or 3 in the next few runs, then back to nothing. At least make the drop rate 50/50. That's at most 1000 runs to complete the quest. Or better yet, make the mystery map boss drop them too.
Yeh so did I but I didn't ask for 2000 runs of monotony. And that's just for an exclusive elite 2h axe, it's really not that useful for a tank nor is it a whole set
Both of the other two elite sets of quests also allow you to get full dropped sets in the process, but this is just a helm and armor if I'm lucky enough to get them, a staff is decent for a mage in pve, and a bow is almost always a birds weapon of choice

For tanks especially this is just 2k runs to look cool,
I'll probably still do it but wait till 76 cap so I can get xp

Elyseon
09-09-2012, 08:55 PM
Also I'll probably at this point just wait till next cap so I can double up xp and ichors

i think i'll wait until the cap raise and do the quest then.. at the moment is to do the quest senseless.. lol

Didn't Techno say they were only available until the next cap? Unless something has changed since friday, haven't been foruming much.
That's the mystery mash elites, cinco said this about quest progress after next cap

Your quest progress will remain intact :-)

Lowlyspy
09-09-2012, 08:57 PM
Ah, nevermind me then.

WoundedEagle
09-09-2012, 09:00 PM
That's the mystery mash elites, cinco said this about quest progress after next cap

I was trying to find the quote hahaha. I'm out now; too difficult to keep up with this thread.

Elyseon
09-09-2012, 09:08 PM
yeh i hope they make it a bit more fun but thats about all i can do, if they would be discontinued i probably wouldnt even worry about it, just wouldnt fit in with my job, friends, and life outside of PL

LADYHADASSA
09-09-2012, 09:10 PM
So people with multiple 71s aren't a true elite?

Lol those of us with multiple accounts will have to do this quest until 2014..... And multi lvl 71 not being elite.. Oh no somone didnt...

Its ok Apollo the Elite in my view are the players who have been here so long that we Can say remeber when.... :)

Elyseon
09-09-2012, 09:13 PM
remember when we payed for pro content instead of getting worse content for free ;D

vampinoy
09-09-2012, 10:34 PM
Damned if you, Damned if you don't...STS is clearly in a no-win situation now. This thread already happened in another form. STS must be scratching their heads now thinking they they gave what their players asked for only to find out...people changed their minds again LOL :P Fun fun fun! :P

Just an unsolicited advice, seeing that many of you are getting worked up on small things, If you're not happy with your game, play another one...why do you have to put up with a game you feel is wasting your time with chores or monotony as you say? I seriously don't get that. I've played 6 other mmorpgs during the time I was also playing PL. I never get this attitude of people trying to be martyrs with their gaimz if they can find better ones that won't frustrate them. So I get in another game what I don't get in another one...be true gamers, don't be too attached in one and expect it to be all that...it's a whole big world out there comrades :P Like right now, I'm looking at Guildwars 2, but I'm not quitting any of my games? If the game is starting to stop to be one then you just put it down a little bit and play new ones and come back when you miss it because at some point you will get tired playing a game no matter how good it is, when that time comes, you can come back to your previous games. Don't be too stressed out, they're games, not work. Remember back then when we were kids during famicom atari days (for those who aren't kids anymore), you buy a game (mommy most of the time), then if it sucks, you throw it away or swap with friends or go ask mommy and daddy to buy you a new one, I don't recall raging on my games over and over, 'cuz you never know what other games you're missing on...this goes on until your cabinet fills up with all the games filled with good memories...the situation is pretty much the same today. So, don't overanalyze and don't put all your eggs in one basket, just play, be a gamer not a game guru/analyst (unless it really is your job), have fun, really...:P That's the problem with people playing games today, they forget it's all about the fun and there's an array of choices out there...don't be too attached and you'll find yourself enjoying games more.

That being said, I find the new content just OK. It's a new content, appreciate it, love the design, the quest gets boring yes but at least we get something different. Different is good. You see the pulse and effort of the developers. When something is new, expect birth pains, and this is obviously one of them since it's the first quested elites. They will definitely calibrate it along the way.

Patricks
09-09-2012, 11:00 PM
That's the mystery mash elites, cinco said this about quest progress after next cap

I was trying to find the quote hahaha. I'm out now; too difficult to keep up with this thread.

But they also said the quest, elite items, and black dragon legendaries are exclusive to Fire Forest elite dungeon, also that they were treating the new dungeon like an event. So which is it?

nomad187
09-09-2012, 11:34 PM
Just an unsolicited advice, seeing that many of you are getting worked up on small things, If you're not happy with your game, play another one...

Aren't you the same one who write multiple dissertations about the pre release of the elite weapons? You got worked up. I don't see anyone here getting worked up. There are a lot of people that have stated that they don't like the quest and 0 to maybe 1 that has said they do like it. The issue as I see it is that the item required for the quest has such a low drop rate that it makes the quest unbearable. The other major chain quest at least gave you something on every run. There might have been a run or 2 that was empty. On this quest, there are major lags between one drop and the next. That should be fixed.

vampinoy
09-10-2012, 12:10 AM
I wasn't really getting worked up...it looked that way because my posts were long and people were sort of making me look like I was beating on a dead horse, etc. The issue itself on the Elite items I was willing to shutup already and just wait for Techno Email's response, in that regard, I was very constructive when it came to the elite item stuff I could have taken in any explanation and moved on. But the drama, flamez, bashing was being caused by the exchanges between me and the other forumers that has got nothing to do with what I was trying to point out. It was a show between me vs everyone. Nobody except a few were willing to trade constructive opinions about the elite items, they prefer flamefests. I'm just clarifying. For the record, I was actually enjoying the exchanges to a certain extent because some of their posts were really funny...in fact, people thought I was trolling them because aside from my original post, most of my posts were filled with sarcasms innuendos, etc. and that's just because I was being flamed. But I admit, I could have been more productive doing other things during that time, I literally wasted hours exchanging wits with people. In that regard, being a semi old player myself, I was already in that "bored" zone, which explains why I had so much time foruming then...so I decided to take that opportunity to play another game called Final Fantasy 13-2 (it was a decent game, but little disappointed in story). So after finishing FF13-2, I resumed playing PL with a whole new perspective, and by this time, people forgot about the elite item issue so I moved on and started fresh :P I waited 'till the issue died before coming in again...because I did make quite a fuss during that time and I had lots of haters then.

So the point is, I wasn't worked up at all, I was a cool cat if you looked back in my posts to the point that I got one old player threaten to hack me in PM and I showed everyone his private message (that was hilarious)... but I was bored of the game at the time already so I put it down a little bit and searched for excitement in the forum section to no avail, so then I decided to pick up a new game, and it worked. That was the point I was trying to make, you don't have to put up with it...you can create new interests and make things pass if you don't like what you're seeing, maybe this one is bad now...if you come back after experiencing another game while on a break maybe it's a lot better...don't put all the eggs in one basket so you don't get stressed should things don't go your way, that was the gist of what I was trying say. It was an advice btw, wasn't meant to be offensive or anything, if you think I was wrong, I'm cool with it :P

I say people are getting worked up because I could sense the emotional stress from them when they say this is chore...like it's big "sigh"... or when they say they'll skip it 'til next level cap...it's almost like I can hear someone say the "f*** this Sh**" expression, nobody passes on a content unless they're not happy with it, do you not use emotions when you're not happy with a game?...so it's being worked up in a frustrating sort of way not the raging way that we're all accustomed to...being angry isn't the only emotional criteria for being worked up, being suddenly frustrated or stressed qualifies as well. For sake of clarifying, I'll simply change my wording to people being "stressed", that's what I meant anyway if you take it in context.

Anyway, I really don't have any intention of arguing with anyone (no point, I just had sudden urge of typing words just now that's why I came up with this long post again)...I gave an advice, if you think I'm wrong, cool :P All in all, I think the content are just alright, and STS should not change/nerf it, but they can use the feedback to improve on future content.

TANKKAAR
09-10-2012, 12:30 AM
Tbh ... I think the quest is fine (or would have been) if it came at the release of new content and gave an elite weapon for that special elite cap. I get on average 6-10 of these ichor drops a night. that being said, if I have 3months to do this quest then fine but I don't think its worth it considering new content (should) be out by then and level cap Will be 76. No use for this elite weapon then...lol

The Flash
09-10-2012, 12:39 AM
Its fine I just hate the randomness. Make it 1k,2k,10k how ever high you want just make it drop 100%. If they made it 10k at least you know there a end. When its random you dont know when it ends. Its why I only buy 1 random pack. Im only playing it because Im farming dragon gear. I just happen to get dragonets while I farm.

My advice make it as hard as you like just stop with the casino chance style.

Cobraguy
09-10-2012, 02:54 AM
Its fine I just hate the randomness. Make it 1k,2k,10k how ever high you want just make it drop 100%. If they made it 10k at least you know there a end. When its random you dont know when it ends. Its why I only buy 1 random pack. Im only playing it because Im farming dragon gear. I just happen to get dragonets while I farm.

My advice make it as hard as you like just stop with the casino chance style.

I agree, there's a reason I don't go to the casino anymore.....and its not because I hit the jackpot and have too much money.

DataPunk
09-10-2012, 03:20 AM
I dont have the time to play 6 mmo's :'(

NECROREAPER
09-10-2012, 04:11 AM
Just be happy they didnt charge plat per run

Cahaun
09-10-2012, 04:42 AM
Just be happy they didnt charge plat per run
That would be insane O.o

saool
09-10-2012, 05:25 AM
I used thrasher elixir on my main and it has 72k kills lol and my alt has about 20k again with elixir...so it depends on whether or not you actually try killing instead of leeching.

As for the OP you are completely right. I gave up after my 15th run when I only got 2 freaking whatever the hell they are. I honestly haven't played PL since Friday because apparently there trying to make everything Elite...but they want you to work for it AGAIN...like getting 100k exp wasn't enough to be considered elite. But whatever when new cap comes people will probably forget about this new elite map, and start doing it again (if it remains intact) when they're able to solo it. Like I did with cyber quest.

Elyseon
09-10-2012, 06:38 AM
I wasn't really getting worked up...it looked that way because my posts were long and people were sort of making me look like I was beating on a dead horse, etc. The issue itself on the Elite items I was willing to shutup already and just wait for Techno Email's response, in that regard, I was very constructive when it came to the elite item stuff I could have taken in any explanation and moved on. But the drama, flamez, bashing was being caused by the exchanges between me and the other forumers that has got nothing to do with what I was trying to point out. It was a show between me vs everyone. Nobody except a few were willing to trade constructive opinions about the elite items, they prefer flamefests. I'm just clarifying. For the record, I was actually enjoying the exchanges to a certain extent because some of their posts were really funny...in fact, people thought I was trolling them because aside from my original post, most of my posts were filled with sarcasms innuendos, etc. and that's just because I was being flamed. But I admit, I could have been more productive doing other things during that time, I literally wasted hours exchanging wits with people. In that regard, being a semi old player myself, I was already in that "bored" zone, which explains why I had so much time foruming then...so I decided to take that opportunity to play another game called Final Fantasy 13-2 (it was a decent game, but little disappointed in story). So after finishing FF13-2, I resumed playing PL with a whole new perspective, and by this time, people forgot about the elite item issue so I moved on and started fresh :P I waited 'till the issue died before coming in again...because I did make quite a fuss during that time and I had lots of haters then.

So the point is, I wasn't worked up at all, I was a cool cat if you looked back in my posts to the point that I got one old player threaten to hack me in PM and I showed everyone his private message (that was hilarious)... but I was bored of the game at the time already so I put it down a little bit and searched for excitement in the forum section to no avail, so then I decided to pick up a new game, and it worked. That was the point I was trying to make, you don't have to put up with it...you can create new interests and make things pass if you don't like what you're seeing, maybe this one is bad now...if you come back after experiencing another game while on a break maybe it's a lot better...don't put all the eggs in one basket so you don't get stressed should things don't go your way, that was the gist of what I was trying say. It was an advice btw, wasn't meant to be offensive or anything, if you think I was wrong, I'm cool with it :P

I say people are getting worked up because I could sense the emotional stress from them when they say this is chore...like it's big "sigh"... or when they say they'll skip it 'til next level cap...it's almost like I can hear someone say the "f*** this Sh**" expression, nobody passes on a content unless they're not happy with it, do you not use emotions when you're not happy with a game?...so it's being worked up in a frustrating sort of way not the raging way that we're all accustomed to...being angry isn't the only emotional criteria for being worked up, being suddenly frustrated or stressed qualifies as well. For sake of clarifying, I'll simply change my wording to people being "stressed", that's what I meant anyway if you take it in context.

Anyway, I really don't have any intention of arguing with anyone (no point, I just had sudden urge of typing words just now that's why I came up with this long post again)...I gave an advice, if you think I'm wrong, cool :P All in all, I think the content are just alright, and STS should not change/nerf it, but they can use the feedback to improve on future content.
We'll see you get worked u when I make guild named <The Killer Elite>

GoodSyntax
09-10-2012, 07:04 AM
vamp - I'm with you on this one (that's been happening a lot lately - weird).

No one is forcing you to complete this quest. It's an Elite Grind!

There will be those who will complete it, those that won't and those who will probably circle back after the next cap to complete it.

All STS is trying to do is give us some variety. You don't have to finish every quest and get every item.

A lot of us didn't finish the Snowball or Cyber quests at the appropriate level. Those that did had terrific items for the level (well, the black ice weren't that terrific) and anyone who knew what the cyber or black ice items were, knew that the time was put in. Same will go for this.

I will probably make a few dozen runs when I am bored of farming Humania, but that's why these quests work for me. I don't have the patience to endlessly farm the same map for hours or days at a time.

There is a lot of content and when you get bored with one map, or quest, do something else. If you get that bored of PL, play a different game or just take a break for a few days.

Energizeric
09-10-2012, 09:53 AM
Anyone know if you will be able to sell/trade these elite weapons? If so, then that is the answer for those of you who don't want to do the quest. Just buy one. And for those of us who wanted a good challenge, we can do the quest. I really do like the idea of this quest and I like how hard it is. I want an elite weapon that is really elite, meaning rare.

I'm tired of looking around and seeing every other player have the same end game gear as me. I was so annoyed when they added the ocean blue diamond quest, and what happened was exactly what I figured would happen. The crafted Lvl 70 sets have become so common. Even the elite weapons from mystery mash are common now. I had hoped they would be rare like demonic sets. Perhaps these elite weapons and the new black dragon armor & helm will stay "elite" and STS will not give in to the whiners.

Nobody is forcing anyone to do the quest. There are plenty of other things to do in this game. If you don't like it, then don't do it.

At least I know that if I put in the time I will get the weapon, 100% chance. I don't have to waste countless weeks farming for this rare drop that I will likely never get (i.e. dragon).

FluffNStuff
09-10-2012, 10:25 AM
So, is there an answer to whether this quest will be gone in a week or two when the new content comes out or if we will have longer? A couple thousand kills at leisure is different then a couple thousand kills in a week.

Twinklaser
09-10-2012, 10:30 AM
You might be able to farm elites easy with shamrock thrashers but SOME people cant afford to run elixirs on farming runs. The quest gives a nice, guaanteed way to get an Elite for FREE.

Subscriber
09-10-2012, 10:31 AM
*Abandon quest*

chau
09-10-2012, 10:38 AM
Also I'll probably at this point just wait till next cap so I can double up xp and ichors
Exactly

Techno Email
09-10-2012, 10:41 AM
Hi folks!

The Dragonet has a random chance to drop ichor, and a random chance to drop loot along the way. I'd like to make sure that you are all aware that this quest WILL NOT be available after the level cap raise. The elite quest is VERY difficult, but a very dedicated player can complete it.

This quest may not be for everyone, which is why the boss also drops loot. The dropped loot is tradeable, so folks can farm and auction it off to their hearts delight. The pinks and dark pinks from Fire Forest are Limited Edition. The purple drops also have worthwhile stats.

chau
09-10-2012, 10:41 AM
*Abandon quest*

This, too

FluffNStuff
09-10-2012, 10:43 AM
Hi folks!

The Dragonet has a random chance to drop ichor, and a random chance to drop loot along the way. I'd like to make sure that you are all aware that this quest WILL NOT be available after the level cap raise. The elite quest is VERY difficult, but a very dedicated player can complete it.

This quest may not be for everyone, which is why the boss also drops loot. The dropped loot is tradeable, so folks can farm and auction it off to their hearts delight. The pinks and dark pinks from Fire Forest are Limited Edition. The purple drops also have worthwhile stats.

So the pinks are not just the level 71 versions of the new gear that is coming out that will go to 75? Can you give us an idea on the relative usefulness? Will ~these~ level 71's be worth it at 75?

octavos
09-10-2012, 10:52 AM
This quest may not be for everyone, which is why the boss also drops loot. The dropped loot is tradeable, so folks can farm and auction it off to their hearts delight. The pinks and dark pinks from Fire Forest are Limited Edition. The purple drops also have worthwhile stats.

correct not for me XD im lv 67 Oorah!

Now if leveling was like DL (hope AL is this way...and hope for SL!!!!)....im gunning it, and i would try it...guess being good at "1" sts game is better then being "noob" in others. good luck ppl.

mike1298
09-10-2012, 10:56 AM
So if we Dont finish the quest before update we can't get elite later?

Yich
09-10-2012, 11:06 AM
I love the new content and would be upset if they did it any other way. Just returning the favor from all the endgamers who said the f bows belong in low level. This new content is great! Way to go STS!

Techno Email
09-10-2012, 11:12 AM
So the pinks are not just the level 71 versions of the new gear that is coming out that will go to 75? Can you give us an idea on the relative usefulness? Will ~these~ level 71's be worth it at 75?

This dungeon is a preview. Stat's for the Black Dragon armor and helms is comparable to level 71 pinks in the new expansion. Black Dragon items are Limited Edition and tradeable. There is a good chance we'll do a Fallen Prince style turn in for these items after the expansion comes out (a quest to turn in your stat'd items for vanities). Black Dragon gear has better stat's than anything else in game, right now. Level 71s have early access to this tier of items. If you're not up for it, that's OK - getting an exclusive preview of the expansion content was intended to be a reward in and of itself! :)

Subscriber
09-10-2012, 11:23 AM
I'm up for it!! Ok so 25 ichor a day I'll be on my way! Or 10... Either way pace yourself and I think we can all get there, really.. Haha(:

Edit: Now that it's exclusive I might have to do this... O.o!

Frealaf
09-10-2012, 11:36 AM
vamp - I'm with you on this one (that's been happening a lot lately - weird).

No one is forcing you to complete this quest. It's an Elite Grind!

This isn't a korean MMO so people don't expect to have to grind all day for content. Also this is a mobile MMO on android and iOS, it is designed for quick games every now and then, hence the instant travelling around, instant grouping etc. Not everybody wants to play for hours and hours.

That said looking through this thread its quite obvious, that people would be far happier if they just made the drop rate 100% and then increase the amount you need so its still a grind of some kind but you can see progress and when its going to finish, not just going alon g no idea if its going to take you 2 weeks or 2 years to do.

especially when its a limited time quest and won't be available once the level cap comes.

FluffNStuff
09-10-2012, 11:49 AM
I'm up for it!! Ok so 25 ichor a day I'll be on my way! Or 10... Either way pace yourself and I think we can all get there, really.. Haha(:

Edit: Now that it's exclusive I might have to do this... O.o!

10 a day is 50 days ... so you will be at around 150 - 200 when the quest ends. Perhaps if we knew how long we had we would not have that fear.

razerfingers
09-10-2012, 12:10 PM
Hm, okay since its going away next cap might aswell try! Went from 4 ichor to 13 imma try and do as much as i can a day haha cause i want that bow!

Sent using blood on a bathroom wall.

Shilooo
09-10-2012, 12:25 PM
This dungeon is a preview. Stat's for the Black Dragon armor and helms is comparable to level 71 pinks in the new expansion. Black Dragon items are Limited Edition and tradeable. There is a good chance we'll do a Fallen Prince style turn in for these items after the expansion comes out (a quest to turn in your stat'd items for vanities). Black Dragon gear has better stat's than anything else in game, right now. Level 71s have early access to this tier of items. If you're not up for it, that's OK - getting an exclusive preview of the expansion content was intended to be a reward in and of itself! :)


Black dragon gear is better? Well for us mages I disagree. I don't believe losing 12 dodge, 40 armor, and 2 mana regen for a gain of 6 hit and 4 crit and 8 dps is better. Please correct me if I'm wrong on my stats. As I don't believe there is a set bonus.

Energizeric
09-10-2012, 12:37 PM
Is Techno Email implying that the quest rewards weapons will NOT be tradeable? If so, then I think that is a bad idea. I think they should definitely be tradeable. I've always been annoyed that the cyber/mystery/black ice stuff is not tradeable. This would be a great way for players to earn money by doing quests that others may not want to do and then selling the rewarded gear. I was able to sell the purple helm I got as a quest rewards in mount fang, so not sure why other pink/dark pink quest rewarded items cannot be sold.

slaveleia
09-10-2012, 12:47 PM
Yeah the quest isn't easy...but isn't that what players have been asking for? A challenge? I dont think they wanted hardcore players finishing this in one day...Too easy & youre bored...Players want "Elite" stuff being extremely difficult to get (making it really expensive...gold caps) but then when they can't get the items fast or bunches of them everyone complains. (Greed) You can't have it both ways...the devs are getting heat either way they do it.

I think it's good that it forces you to keep farming countless runs & hopefully by luck you can drop some Black Dragon pinks along the way. The reason why Red/Gold/Blue:Green dragon stuff is so rare cause ppl farm for it but the drop rate is so low & difficult that most just quit after a few runs or even hrs of farming. I have to admit I get discouraged pretty easily trying to drop dragon in Fang. This elite quest makes you keep going.

Chopper
09-10-2012, 12:51 PM
Remember when Elite Vanities gave you something useful, like 50HP? ha ha
Now you just get the opportunity to spend dozens of hours looking for items that may or not be better than what you already have. Nice.

Subscriber
09-10-2012, 01:17 PM
10 a day is 50 days ... so you will be at around 150 - 200 when the quest ends. Perhaps if we knew how long we had we would not have that fear.
Crap then how will I have to pace myself..?

StompArtist
09-10-2012, 01:43 PM
Bull in a China shop achievement unlocked!

xcainnblecterx
09-10-2012, 01:47 PM
I didn't even know this quest went away, I stopped at 15 and been working on my 56 twink. Guess ima have to force myself to continue

gibol1412
09-10-2012, 02:04 PM
This dungeon is a preview. Stat's for the Black Dragon armor and helms is comparable to level 71 pinks in the new expansion. Black Dragon items are Limited Edition and tradeable. There is a good chance we'll do a Fallen Prince style turn in for these items after the expansion comes out (a quest to turn in your stat'd items for vanities). Black Dragon gear has better stat's than anything else in game, right now. Level 71s have early access to this tier of items. If you're not up for it, that's OK - getting an exclusive preview of the expansion content was intended to be a reward in and of itself! :)
(O_o)

gibol1412
09-10-2012, 02:05 PM
Black dragon gear is better? Well for us mages I disagree. I don't believe losing 12 dodge, 40 armor, and 2 mana regen for a gain of 4 hit and 6 crit and 4dps is better. Please correct me if I'm wrong on my stats. As I don't believe there is a set bonus.
For bird I lose many stats to...

LwMark
09-10-2012, 02:21 PM
Will black dragon always be avaible or u takin from us?

Elyseon
09-10-2012, 02:23 PM
Fun...

Walkhardd
09-10-2012, 02:26 PM
Elite weps call for elite measures, just like grindin for the old elite vanities, good thing about this u can tell who really is a true player compared to a l71 with 1k kills who just used 8x+ the whole way

Elite is measured in the arena. Not by how much free time you have on your hands. ;)

LwMark
09-10-2012, 02:33 PM
Elite weps call for elite measures, just like grindin for the old elite vanities, good thing about this u can tell who really is a true player compared to a l71 with 1k kills who just used 8x+ the whole way

Elite is measured in the arena. Not by how much free time you have on your hands. ;)

U got a point

Elyseon
09-10-2012, 02:34 PM
Elite weps call for elite measures, just like grindin for the old elite vanities, good thing about this u can tell who really is a true player compared to a l71 with 1k kills who just used 8x+ the whole way

Elite is measured in the arena. Not by how much free time you have on your hands. ;)

Ive put in 4 hours for this quest so far only to find myself not even 1/25 done
Dont feel like this is worth a monotonous 100 hours
At least they told us the quest will end at this caps end so i didnt end up throwing in more time

Energizeric
09-10-2012, 02:36 PM
If a "hardcore" player can finish a quest in one weekend, then the quest is too easy. As of yesterday afternoon (within 48 hours from the release of the new dungeon), I know at least 2 people who were half way done with the quest. Apparently it's not that difficult or some players would not be on pace to finish the quest in 3-4 days. If every player who is lvl71 can do the quest, then it's too easy IMO.

Elyseon
09-10-2012, 02:40 PM
If a "hardcore" player can finish a quest in one weekend, then the quest is too easy. As of yesterday afternoon (within 48 hours from the release of the new dungeon), I know at least 2 people who were half way done with the quest. Apparently it's not that difficult or some players would not be on pace to finish the quest in 3-4 days. If every player who is lvl71 can do the quest, then it's too easy IMO.
The problem is the only limiting factor is time, it takes absolutely no skill which imo is a very big part of elite, some no lifer that doesnt sleep for two days just for a little fiery item is not my definition of elite

LwMark
09-10-2012, 02:45 PM
Elite weps call for elite measures, just like grindin for the old elite vanities, good thing about this u can tell who really is a true player compared to a l71 with 1k kills who just used 8x+ the whole way

Elite is measured in the arena. Not by how much free time you have on your hands. ;)

Ive put in 4 hours for this quest so far only to find myself not even 1/25 done
Dont feel like this is worth a monotonous 100 hours
At least they told us the quest will end at this caps end so i didnt end up throwing in more time

So this ends when 71 cap is over l76?

Energizeric
09-10-2012, 02:49 PM
The problem is the only limiting factor is time, it takes absolutely no skill which imo is a very big part of elite, some no lifer that doesnt sleep for two days just for a little fiery item is not my definition of elite

So this one is a "time" elite quest... it takes lots of time.

Mystery mash is a "skill" elite dungeon. Only those with skill can beat the boss there and have a chance at an elite item.

It's nice that they mix them up and offer both kinds. One quick one for those who have superior skill, and one long one for those who are dedicated and are willing to take the time to finish a long quest.

This is exactly like real life. Some people can achieve things from lots of work over a long period of time, and others can achieve things with great skill/talent in a small amount of time.

Elyseon
09-10-2012, 02:50 PM
So far
Next cap = more dmg and less armour, the exact opposite of what was already needed this cap, atleast they reduced dodge, except for bear, pretty soon all of pvp is gonna be a one shot kill 81 cap will add like 30 dmg per item and reduce armour even more

Elyseon
09-10-2012, 02:52 PM
The problem is the only limiting factor is time, it takes absolutely no skill which imo is a very big part of elite, some no lifer that doesnt sleep for two days just for a little fiery item is not my definition of elite

So this one is a "time" elite quest... it takes lots of time.

Mystery mash is a "skill" elite dungeon. Only those with skill can beat the boss there and have a chance at an elite item.

It's nice that they mix them up and offer both kinds. One quick one for those who have superior skill, and one long one for those who are dedicated and are willing to take the time to finish a long quest.

This is exactly like real life. Some people can achieve things from lots of work over a long period of time, and others can achieve things with great skill/talent in a small amount of time.
I wouldnt call mystery mash a skill based dungeon, theres just one enemy and you plat him to death
Has any non elixired group killed him yet?

Energizeric
09-10-2012, 02:52 PM
So far
Next cap = more dmg and less armour, the exact opposite of what was already needed this cap, atleast they reduced dodge, except for bear, pretty soon all of pvp is gonna be a one shot kill 81 cap will add like 30 dmg per item and reduce armour even more

Seems to be the case. I already figured out a way to equip my lvl71 bear to have 255 armor, 650 dps, 45 crit, 105 hit, 30 dodge & 35 H/s, and that is UNBUFFED.

FluffNStuff
09-10-2012, 02:53 PM
So far
Next cap = more dmg and less armour, the exact opposite of what was already needed this cap, atleast they reduced dodge, except for bear, pretty soon all of pvp is gonna be a one shot kill 81 cap will add like 30 dmg per item and reduce armour even more

I am just waiting for the point when instead of setting up the cruel blast combo, the shattering scream will just outright kill em :)

Energizeric
09-10-2012, 02:54 PM
I wouldnt call mystery mash a skill based dungeon, theres just one enemy and you plat him to death
Has any non elixired group killed him yet?

Yes, there was a group where nobody was on elixer and they killed him. A youtube video was posted of it. Yes, it's unfortunate about plat being used for this so much.

FluffNStuff
09-10-2012, 02:54 PM
Seems to be the case. I already figured out a way to equip my lvl71 bear to have 255 armor, 650 dps, 45 crit, 105 hit, 30 dodge & 35 H/s, and that is UNBUFFED.

~dps~ What is the damage though? Seems like you are sacrificing a lot of real power to boost a fake number.

Energizeric
09-10-2012, 02:58 PM
~dps~ What is the damage though? Seems like you are sacrificing a lot of real power to boost a fake number.

damage in 250-280 range. It's not so fake when I use rage (buffed) and my crit increases to 85, and I'm landing 500-600 damage per hit and multiple hits per second. I can solo the boss in the new dungeon in about 10-15 seconds.

Rushorgtfo
09-10-2012, 04:16 PM
I hope the devs take into suggestion of lowering the required quest from 500 to at least 100-200

saool
09-10-2012, 04:33 PM
I hope the devs take into suggestion of lowering the required quest from 500 to at least 100-200

This is way better then the impossible 500. Think of it this way, they drop so rarely you'd still probably have to do like 500+ runs to get even close to 100 dragon things...

Energizeric
09-10-2012, 04:45 PM
I hope the devs take into suggestion of lowering the required quest from 500 to at least 100-200

If they do this then the weapons will no longer be elite as everyone will have one. I know people who would have had the quest done within 24 hours if this was the case.

saool
09-10-2012, 04:52 PM
I hope the devs take into suggestion of lowering the required quest from 500 to at least 100-200

If they do this then the weapons will no longer be elite as everyone will have one. I know people who would have had the quest done within 24 hours if this was the case.

Think of it this way. It's elite in the sense that only those who were L71 during that/this cap can get it. Same could be said about Elite vanities not being elite with the amount of people who have them. So, I'm not sure it would make a difference on how elite an item is. Besides you can't trade it. It's almost like another vanity you have to work for...at least have them drop a bit more if it's going to be such a high number. Maybe one every two runs? I did nearly 20+ runs and only have 3...so yeah...

LwMark
09-10-2012, 04:55 PM
After readin all this i feel bummed out about this new elite dragon set, i dont think i can afford it :(

Energizeric
09-10-2012, 04:56 PM
Think of it this way. It's elite in the sense that only those who were L71 during that/this cap can get it. Same could be said about Elite vanities not being elite with the amount of people who have them. So, I'm not sure it would make a difference on how elite an item is. Besides you can't trade it. It's almost like another vanity you have to work for...at least have them drop a bit more if it's going to be such a high number. Maybe one every two runs? I did nearly 20+ runs and only have 3...so yeah...

I don't really care how they do it, but I want a chance to get items that are very rare. I don't like my bear to look like every other bear. So now with the green dragon armor that I purchased I'm happy because not a lot of bears have green dragon armor. I also would like to have some other gear that's like that. So IMO however hard they have to make the quest so that 90-95% of the players DO NOT complete it, that is what I want. Even if it means I too may not complete it, at least I have a chance to.

gibol1412
09-10-2012, 06:56 PM
So this one is a "time" elite quest... it takes lots of time.

Mystery mash is a "skill" elite dungeon. Only those with skill can beat the boss there and have a chance at an elite item.

You forgot say skill and elixir....

Shellkaz
09-10-2012, 07:42 PM
Well I have 23 of them and I honestly don't think. I'll be getting 24. I have had to buy 2 of my last 3 sets of end game gear. Because as a general rule, random drops are not kind to me. No first off I'm no complaining about random gear drops. It's the nature of the game.

However to give us an elite quest that A) will go away in, "several weeks" (according to Sam , that's when the new cap will come out) B) put the number of items required at 500, and then C) make those 500 drops random, is ridiculous. I will not participate in this style of quest. If I happen to join a friend or guildie in a map and get a drop, great. If not, no great loss. I'm not a child that has to have every new toy that comes on the market. I don't need a new toy to show off how "elite" I am.

I have a life, I have a family, I have a job, I have friends in RL as well as PL. I don't have the time to try and put in possibly 2k or more runs trying for an elite weapon. I get more satisfaction helping guild members level, with the limited amount of game time that I have. So I'll stick with what gives me a feeling of accomplishment instead of that which give me a feeling of frustration.

However we DID ask for more quests, and harder ones. I can't blame STS for trying to give us what we asked for. I just don't think we expected the quests to have a time limit, along with needing such a high number of a randomly dropped item. I'm simply saying that for once I'm choosing to not pursue a quest, that, I have no chance of completing, due to the time constraint and the nature of the quest.

Elyseon
09-10-2012, 07:44 PM
I wouldnt call mystery mash a skill based dungeon, theres just one enemy and you plat him to death
Has any non elixired group killed him yet?

Yes, there was a group where nobody was on elixer and they killed him. A youtube video was posted of it. Yes, it's unfortunate about plat being used for this so much.
Pro
All i know is when i tried tanking it i got one hit by the boss >.>

Ixillicus
09-10-2012, 07:48 PM
At this pAce only Super dedicated players (to an extreme) and botters will achieve it before the next campaign comes out and this quest is removed.

I don't like the idea of this because it promotes botting.

Energizeric
09-10-2012, 07:51 PM
Well I have 23 of them and I honestly don't think. I'll be getting 24. I have had to buy 2 of my last 3 sets of end game gear. Because as a general rule, random drops are not kind to me. No first off I'm no complaining about random gear drops. It's the nature of the game.

However to give us an elite quest that A) will go away in, "several weeks" (according to Sam , that's when the new cap will come out) B) put the number of items required at 500, and then C) make those 500 drops random, is ridiculous. I will not participate in this style of quest. If I happen to join a friend or guildie in a map and get a drop, great. If not, no great loss. I'm not a child that has to have every new toy that comes on the market. I don't need a new toy to show off how "elite" I am.

I have a life, I have a family, I have a job, I have friends in RL as well as PL. I don't have the time to try and put in possibly 2k or more runs trying for an elite weapon. I get more satisfaction helping guild members level, with the limited amount of game time that I have. So I'll stick with what gives me a feeling of accomplishment instead of that which give me a feeling of frustration.

However we DID ask for more quests, and harder ones. I can't blame STS for trying to give us what we asked for. I just don't think we expected the quests to have a time limit, along with needing such a high number of a randomly dropped item. I'm simply saying that for once I'm choosing to not pursue a quest, that, I have no chance of completing, due to the time constraint and the nature of the quest.

I agree 100% with your analysis. Not everyone has to do the quest. Since it's going away, it won't ultimately contribute to your total quests done (now it says 191/192, but that will obviously change when the quest is no longer there). That is the point of making a "hard" quest. The point is not for everyone to do it but suffer along the way. The point is that by making it harder, fewer people will do it, and thus the reward items will be more rare and "elite".

Shellkaz
09-10-2012, 08:36 PM
Thanks Energizeric. I don't mind hard quests. At level 61 I soloed my way through the cyber, and shadow armor quests. I completed 3 sets of mystery armor while I was working towards lvl 50. I was hoping for a quest that I, as a player, who is somewhere between casual and hardcore, have a realistic chance of completing. 500 runs is enough of a challenge. I think a great option, would be to limit your chances to complete that quest to the time that you are at levels 71-76. At which time you lose your chances to complete the quest.

Like I said though, I'm not a child that is going to throw a temper tantrum if I don't get what I want. I'm just using my freedom of choice, and choosing not to participate.

Time to get outta here n see if someone in the guild needs help leveling. **Exiting stage right --->

Energizeric
09-10-2012, 08:39 PM
Just curious but what are the shadow armor quests? I only started playing in February, and I did the quests for the Mystery set (twice) and the Cyber set, but don't remember a shadow armor quest. I remember part of the cyber quest had something to do with shadow, but the quest reward was the cyber items. Was there a quest that was discontinued?

Brave Sir Robin
09-10-2012, 09:35 PM
Fluff, to be fair, there is actually the 'thrill of chance' as the new dungeon drops new dragon pinks that give better stats than current gear.

Regarding the dungeon, I like the graphics. A good teaser for the forthcoming campaign.

However, the map is boring: 1 simple room and a long corridor which leads to a (fairly straightforward) boss fight.

Having reached the 71 cap twice, it's disheartening after countless runs to have to go through this boring map 1000 more times for a weapon which, as TANK said, will soon become obsolete. Also, I suspect that the drop mechanics are similar to the new Nuri's dungeon: to get a realistic chance for a dragon pink you probably need a re-roll elixir. So I am going to follow vamp's advice and do something else instead.

When thinking of elite campaigns, Frozen Nightmares and Shadow Caves come to mind. These offered much more than a map consisting of 2 rooms and were accessible for much less.

Ogbuehi
09-10-2012, 10:07 PM
Well so far, 60 or so runs, 45 ichors collected. Chances are I will not be able complete this in one week when it expires which really sucks. I wish the quest was designed more for those who have reached 71 and not so much that it's only for those who have nothing but time on their hands to get this. I've done about 35 runs of mystery mash which was pretty hard because no one wanted to do it or knew how to do it properly. Not a single drop from all those runs. Its nearly not even worth it for those who have grinder their way to 71. If I can't do this quest, I will be highly deterred from trying to reach the next cap.

Shellkaz
09-10-2012, 10:33 PM
Just curious but what are the shadow armor quests? I only started playing in February, and I did the quests for the Mystery set (twice) and the Cyber set, but don't remember a shadow armor quest. I remember part of the cyber quest had something to do with shadow, but the quest reward was the cyber items. Was there a quest that was discontinued?

My mistake it's that quest where you had to kill a certain number of shadows in the captive audience map. I think it was part of cyber but it was so long ago I'm a little bit fuzzy on details. Im tired and wasn't thinkg straight. Any how every time I started a map, i would have a bunch of ppl join who would immediately start opening the (pods?) and we'd be trying to fight 4 o pr 5 monsters at once. Got tired of getting killed so I started to lock and solo.

Back on topic, even some of the most dedicated players in my guild are giving this quest a pass. However scizaratek hasn't been on lately, and he's really obsessed with completing quests. So he might do it, and fusion has made really good progress from what I've been told, however since I haven't seen him I can't vouch for his reported total of 125/500.

Sim Jing
09-10-2012, 10:42 PM
There seems to be a a quest where if you kill some boss a couple thousand time you are given an elite weapon. That is work, not a game. Where is the thrill of chance? This has probably been mentioned before in a more eloquent way, but I just got back from spending four days with the future in-laws so do not have the time or energy to use the search.

...... For those of you that want the New Set of Elite Weapons but don't want to put on the effort for it, let me say this from some experience in Team Fortress 2 and Counter Strike: Source.

Less QQ, MOAR Pew Pew!

Subscriber
09-10-2012, 11:30 PM
Why are Asians so good at this quest (no racism intended)?

Jugernugetx
09-10-2012, 11:49 PM
I agree this quest is nuts. No one will be able to finish it. They think they may,

They will get SO bored of it that they will give up. Thousands of runs just for one item :p no way!

Patricks
09-11-2012, 12:31 AM
Why are Asians so good at this quest (no racism intended)?

Because the last quest was biased towards black people. The quest before that white people were best. This time it's Asian. I heard the next quest will be more for Hispanic people.

DataPunk
09-11-2012, 05:44 AM
I did a couple of runs but the reward and boring lvl design is not enough to keep me entertained. Started lvling another alt to 71.

Elyseon
09-11-2012, 08:42 AM
Maybe u just hate it cuz im so unlucky like everyone heres like oh i did 60 runs and got 45 ichors, in game my friend did 48 runs got 45 ichors
Both pretty high rates but mine wont even go to half; 75 runs and 21 ichors? Not even 1/3
Idk but its not really fun as a game should be it either needs to be constant or a much lower number...
Its discouraging rather than chalenging

Pakax
09-11-2012, 08:52 AM
I don't mind running the same map 1000 times. Done it before, will do it again, with or without an elite weapon at the end. I think that what most peeps find frustrating is the low drop rate of these Ichors, well, it's Elite so I guess it should be kind of hard and require dedication but I can understand the frustration (I am frustrated as well but that's the game I reckon).

However, I have two probs:

1) I have 4 71s and I consider myself hardcore player despite the Exlirs (i.e. most of them have capped numerous times, all of them have over 40k kills - including one at 110k or so - and I have many other toons as well). I am currently running this quest on my mage but I would have loved to be able to do this with at least two or three of my mains. If this quest disapears when the cap is raised, I will not be able to do so (despite putting in a lot of time in PL).

2) These Elite weapons are lvl71 weapons. I guess they will be obsolette fairly quickly wen the new gear comes out. This could be a problem no?

CrimsonTider
09-11-2012, 10:24 AM
I agree this quest is nuts. No one will be able to finish it. They think they may,

They will get SO bored of it that they will give up. Thousands of runs just for one item :p no way!

Challenge Accepted. :)

Fusionstrike
09-11-2012, 11:46 AM
I've done a bunch of runs now, so I feel like I can comment on this quest. First, I think it's a good idea that STS is adding another "quest for gear" like cyber. Unfortunately, they decided to make it a limited time only event. You guys should make a standing gear quest like cyber sometime soon for those who aren't buying top of the line crafted stuff and don't have an angel set to fall back on.

Second, I think this quest design needs some work. From what I can tell, the drop rate of ichors is 50%. We're supposed to collect 500. This means you have decided that this quest reward should "cost" about 1000 runs. There are two ways you can require 1000 runs. One is to make it 100% drop and set number to collect to 1000. The other is what you did, with the random element of chance on 500 to collect.

I believe the quest would be psychologically more palatable if you just made it a 100% drop to collect 1000. Sure it's still boring, but at least people would know what they're in for and could plan accordingly. As it stands now, every time there's a cold streak people get very discouraged. Also, the randomness encourages people spreading rumors about what makes it "drop more". I've heard a whole bunch of nonsense in my runs, and even people who know that "random is just random" can fool themselves into believing there's some kind of secret they can figure out to beat the system.

If you're really determined to have a random element to the quest, then do it with both upside and downside. The quest at it stands right now has only downside. Either you get 1 drop (which is what you expect) or you get nothing (which only serves to annoy and demoralize when it happens a few times in a row). Instead, you could have made the quest to collect 1000, but with equal chance to get drops of zero, one or two. The math still works out to needing 1000 runs on average, but with this design the player sometimes gets nothing but sometimes get a double drop, i.e. an unexpected GOOD event to help take the edge off the bad ones.

The other thing you really need to do is give a very clear indication of how long until the quest ends. Since this is the first time (that I know of) that PL has a time-limited quest, you run the risk of really souring people by breaking their expectations. I can imagine the hue and cry that will rise up from those who get 300+ of these things only to have the quest vaporize out from under them. Remember how angry people were about the mount fang armor not making a set with the humania item? Remember how ripped off they felt spending plat to elixir up for a "worthless" item? You have the potential for a much greater backlash with this expensive, long quest coupled with an indeterminate end date. Be very careful here, STS.

Chickenrunnn
09-11-2012, 11:59 AM
I agree, it's like grinding to L72 with 200k xp.

Why is it called Elite according to you? xD

Since i'm not even 71, I don't feel angry about that quest lol^^

lUp3
09-11-2012, 12:51 PM
The quest should still be present after update imo.





2) These Elite weapons are lvl71 weapons. I guess they will be obsolette fairly quickly wen the new gear comes out. This could be a problem no?

I would think the weapons would be comparable or even better, being Elite, than the new level 71 scaled gear. So they might still have a use in PvP.

Even if they dont all gear eventually does become obsolete so that shouldnt be a problem. People who took the time to get this done would still wear the items proudly (if they looked better)

Zeus
09-11-2012, 12:54 PM
Why is it called Elite according to you? xD

Since i'm not even 71, I don't feel angry about that quest lol^^

J don't understand your question, chicken? I never called it elite?

Snakespeare
09-11-2012, 01:04 PM
Wait what? It ends? But I'm still grinding to 71! ah well, I won't make it.

Subscriber
09-11-2012, 01:07 PM
Because the last quest was biased towards black people. The quest before that white people were best. This time it's Asian. I heard the next quest will be more for Hispanic people.

Mmm this is true, I'll put some thought into it next time. ;D

Samhayne
09-11-2012, 02:36 PM
Wait what? It ends? But I'm still grinding to 71! ah well, I won't make it.

Yeah, when Blacksmoke Mountain comes out, The Fire Forest will become the town for the new expansion and the Dragonet will be no more. At least, that is how I understand the current plan.

Samhayne
09-11-2012, 02:36 PM
Wait what? It ends? But I'm still grinding to 71! ah well, I won't make it.

Yeah, when Blacksmoke Mountain comes out, The Fire Forest will become the town for the new expansion and the Dragonet will be no more. At least, that is how I understand the current plan.

Elyseon
09-11-2012, 03:14 PM
I wish they could see that we liked the style of cyber quests how they were
If its not broke dont fix it

LwMark
09-11-2012, 03:22 PM
Double post

Suentous PO
09-11-2012, 03:49 PM
Please give us a heads up when this will be ending if at all posible!!!!!

Samhayne
09-11-2012, 03:54 PM
Please give us a heads up when this will be ending if at all posible!!!!!

Will do!

Subscriber
09-11-2012, 04:11 PM
Will do!

Shows that he has read all of our posts. (;

LwMark
09-11-2012, 04:12 PM
I cant wait fot when im 475/500 an boom...... update

CrimsonTider
09-11-2012, 04:15 PM
Weird....

Bebsi
09-11-2012, 04:24 PM
Yeah, when Blacksmoke Mountain comes out, The Fire Forest will become the town for the new expansion and the Dragonet will be no more. At least, that is how I understand the current plan.

Well, I wouldn't be surprised if u change this again.
Ppl just started to complain.
I just hope that u stick with what u started.
Even better, u might wait till I grinded to 500/500 and then give out the weapons to all lvl71s for free ^_^

Suentous PO
09-11-2012, 06:39 PM
Will do!
Thanks mah man!
:)

Ogbuehi
09-11-2012, 08:18 PM
I definitely would like a timeframe. So I know if it's even worth trying for. 6 more in 8 runs. Up to 51 now.

DXDARKXSOULXD
09-11-2012, 09:49 PM
but this is nuts sam u should lower it a little bit people getting crazy lol (not starting a fight just explaining)
if it lower to 200 that would be good

HunterSLAYER
09-11-2012, 10:33 PM
but this is nuts sam u should lower it a little bit people getting crazy lol (not starting a fight just explaining)
if it lower to 200 that would be good

I support this.
500 ichors would take an eternity to farm especially for players like me who mainly rely on trash can punch(s).

LwMark
09-11-2012, 11:02 PM
even 250 would be better or every run u do u get one or every 2 runs, it just stinks sts never gives dates an stuff, i understand why it just stinks, obviously the Blacksmoke map isnt comin for a whileeeeeee, cause they wouldnt made so complicated if map was coming in 2weeks or so, its guna be impossible to get all 3, they should let the map continue for ever instead of removin when map officially comes out

HunterSLAYER
09-11-2012, 11:17 PM
even 250 would be better or every run u do u get one or every 2 runs, it just stinks sts never gives dates an stuff, i understand why it just stinks, obviously the Blacksmoke map isnt comin for a whileeeeeee, cause they wouldnt made so complicated if map was coming in 2weeks or so, its guna be impossible to get all 3, they should let the map continue for ever instead of removin when map officially comes out

It's a little ironic that sts states that its products are "Mobile MMOS" but just look at this Elite quest...its quite similar to "grinding MMOS".
500 is going to take forever..i'm only at 10%...*Sigh.

Hopefully techno or some other dev sees his and changes their mind :>

Zeus
09-12-2012, 12:27 AM
Took two days grinding 4+ hours a day to get to 103...

Ridiculous.

lUp3
09-12-2012, 12:31 AM
I rather like the count. The stuff doesnt look that great nor statswise really that better than the current Elites, so dont really understand the importance people are laying on this quest. Its not even tradeable.

Also I'd like to add, before elix rolled out attaining the level cap was only grinding. Run after run of the same maps till you achieve the goal.


I did not agree with the idea of a Limited edition quest but after reading a devs post, think it was Sam, the idea is to make this area a Towne so this quest can no longer be a part of the game after the update I dont really see it going through after that.

I would hope STS sticks to its word. Even I am only around 10-15% of the way through but thats the risk part would I be able to complete it in time. If I dont, well too bad, fair play to STS to atleast inform me that the quest was not gonna last after event.

The Flash
09-12-2012, 01:36 AM
I completed the quest 2 hrs ago. It takes a little longer then going from 66-71. It took me 3 days only because I wasnt rushing it like I did the 71 cap (which had a guild reward of a million for 1st finisher). What you guys have to remember is this quest isnt mandatory. The content in itself is the reward so enjoy the content and dont notice the drop count. Because if you do its depressing as you will go 15+ runs without a drop. So go in with a mind set that you are farming dragon gear and ichor happen to fall while farming.

Feel free to drop by and see the nice bow I have, Its worth every run. Supernamek is my name.

lilweezy
09-12-2012, 01:41 AM
I completed the quest 2 hrs ago. It takes a little longer then going from 66-71. It took me 3 days only because I wasnt rushing it like I did the 71 cap (which had a guild reward of a million for 1st finisher). What you guys have to remember is this quest isnt mandatory. The content in itself is the reward so enjoy the content and dont notice the drop count. Because if you do its depressing as you will go 15+ runs without a drop. So go in with a mind set that you are farming dragon gear and ichor happen to fall while farming.

Feel free to drop by and see the nice bow I have, Its worth every run. Supernamek is my name.


can you please please please please please post a screen shot of the weapon and the stats? :love_heart:

McBain
09-12-2012, 06:07 AM
I like the quest idea. A Cyber-like quest is definitely cool with me. The random drop thing is tough to deal with though. Even if you were guaranteed to get an Ichor every run, it would still take a long time. 500 runs is practically an eternity for most people. Does "elite" now simply mean you have a lot of free time? Because I remember when elite meant you had to be on top of your game, like when the Shadow Caves came out.

Suentous PO
09-12-2012, 08:37 AM
Grats Supernamek!

Elyseon
09-12-2012, 09:30 AM
Idk if I'll do any more I feel like I'll get to 400 then next cap comes
So far 85 runs = 25 ichors for me

FluffNStuff
09-12-2012, 10:33 AM
I am thinking of having a "Bad Beat" contest to see who was holding the most Ichors when the time runs to zero. Maybe the Dev's might want to sponsor, but I doubt it, since it is going to be such a hot button topic. Maybe I'll announce the contest when Sam announces time is running out so players can screen capture their Ichor numbers.

FluffNStuff
09-12-2012, 10:35 AM
I completed the quest 2 hrs ago. It takes a little longer then going from 66-71. It took me 3 days only because I wasnt rushing it like I did the 71 cap (which had a guild reward of a million for 1st finisher). What you guys have to remember is this quest isnt mandatory. The content in itself is the reward so enjoy the content and dont notice the drop count. Because if you do its depressing as you will go 15+ runs without a drop. So go in with a mind set that you are farming dragon gear and ichor happen to fall while farming.

Feel free to drop by and see the nice bow I have, Its worth every run. Supernamek is my name.

Congratulations ... now please shower ;)

J/k!

Darkterror
09-12-2012, 01:40 PM
Again.......the quest had to be up to 1000 ..... not 500. Shouldnt have any complains cos only dedicated players would bother doing it.

Elite players just go and do it. Semi-elite complains .

Zeus
09-12-2012, 02:27 PM
Again.......the quest had to be up to 1000 ..... not 500. Shouldnt have any complains cos only dedicated players would bother doing it.

Elite players just go and do it. Semi-elite complains .

What about those that complain but still do it? ;)

CrimsonTider
09-12-2012, 02:30 PM
Will do!


What about those that complain but still do it? ;)

We call those: Parth. ;)

Engelhard
09-12-2012, 02:41 PM
Lol @Crim It's tough but I bet we all find the time haha Looks like we need to be prepared to spend about 40-50 hours with our mobile devices.


I've put in about 3 1/2 hours so far and I'm at 35/500 10 per hour....ouch lol

My wife is going to hate this quest....it reminds me of the old 56 cap before 4x came out.


Start putting in work guys.....we need the weapon to go with our COP

LwMark
09-12-2012, 02:49 PM
If i make it to 300-400 and they send out the update, words will not describe what i will do lol ;)

FluffNStuff
09-12-2012, 02:59 PM
If i make it to 300-400 and they send out the update, words will not describe what i will do lol ;)

My guess is they were anticipating this. Consider that the reward is a flaming weapon ...

thecrankybearsam
09-12-2012, 06:39 PM
Barbies are dumb

DXDARKXSOULXD
09-12-2012, 07:36 PM
i just wasted 100 plat for this place and they will close it nd also the loot exlire thing wont work its like a scam it said it will drop all items and stuff and i been on run with it in the black place or new place and no ppink drop wasted lot of plat for just that thing alone plus the exlire thrasher too if they made this impossible to accomplish what a waste

Energizeric
09-12-2012, 07:41 PM
I'm only at 74 but I will finish. I guarantee it. :)

Zeus
09-12-2012, 08:17 PM
122 :)

Prototypedwar
09-19-2012, 06:33 AM
51 here:P
Also, torchlight II and borderlands 2 will be released here tomorrow. I will NEVER reach 500:(

DataPunk
09-19-2012, 07:52 AM
Oops forgot about those!

FluffNStuff
09-19-2012, 08:11 AM
Getting borderlands on Friday.

CrimsonTider
09-19-2012, 08:27 AM
Stomp is at it again...

Brave Sir Robin
09-19-2012, 08:30 AM
He ran out of thanks (I counted) so thought I would take over.

MightyMicah
09-19-2012, 09:11 AM
I haven't read all the comments yet, nor do I intend to since there's so many but I'll go ahead give my two cents.

Elite quest is not dumb. The idea is very, very, very fair. I cannot stress that point enough. However, I believe it was implemented in a terrible way. Some of us have been cursed by the Pocket Legends Gods and will never receive a decent pink no matter how long we farm (note the sarcasm.) Therefore we like a long hard quest that will guarantee (key word) an elite item.

I don't believe this should be the only way to obtain such an item. That's ridiculous. There should definitely be a way to get this item through normal farming means. As many pointed out (I did read a few comments) its like a grind to level 72. As well, it is extremely boring.

In other words what I'm saying is, I like this idea a lot, but only the idea itself. Execution on the idea is somewhat laughable. (sorry devs :()

~MM

Chopper
09-19-2012, 10:14 AM
I haven't read all the comments yet, nor do I intend to since there's so many but I'll go ahead give my two cents.

Elite quest is not dumb. The idea is very, very, very fair. I cannot stress that point enough. However, I believe it was implemented in a terrible way. Some of us have been cursed by the Pocket Legends Gods and will never receive a decent pink no matter how long we farm (note the sarcasm.) Therefore we like a long hard quest that will guarantee (key word) an elite item.

I don't believe this should be the only way to obtain such an item. That's ridiculous. There should definitely be a way to get this item through normal farming means. As many pointed out (I did read a few comments) its like a grind to level 72. As well, it is extremely boring.

In other words what I'm saying is, I like this idea a lot, but only the idea itself. Execution on the idea is somewhat laughable. (sorry devs :()

~MM

agree - it's not the idea of an elite quest being difficult that people are complaining about, it's the execution for sure. The Cyber quests had different components, different maps and other players running through them on different tasks (regular levelling). It made it a special mission-type quest and kept you connected to the game and players. This current Elite quest is just grinding, with all Lvl 71s who are all trying to get through it as fast as possible a few thousand times. Boring, Work. Repetitive. The fact that no other pinks are dropping make it even worse as it's a time and money suck.

ZHEOTARE
09-19-2012, 10:22 AM
agree - it's not the idea of an elite quest being difficult that people are complaining about, it's the execution for sure. The Cyber quests had different components, different maps and other players running through them on different tasks (regular levelling). It made it a special mission-type quest and kept you connected to the game and players. This current Elite quest is just grinding, with all Lvl 71s who are all trying to get through it as fast as possible a few thousand times. Boring, Work. Repetitive. The fact that no other pinks are dropping make it even worse as it's a time and money suck.

This is the best way of putting it I've seen. In fact I haven't played PL since I realized how retarded this quest is, and the direction the company is going. I made it to 112, decided that potting does nothing, tried playing unpotted, got booted, LOLed, and logged out. When the devs come up with a better elite quest, I may be back.

Brave Sir Robin
09-19-2012, 10:32 AM
When the devs come up with a better elite quest, I may be back.
I think a better idea for the elite quest would be to give us an Arcane Legends dungeon to play with our Pocket Legends 71 elites.

ZHEOTARE
09-19-2012, 11:15 AM
I think a better idea for the elite quest would be to give us an Arcane Legends dungeon to play with our Pocket Legends 71 elites.

Or make one like the cyber or FN. Multiple stages, multiple bosses dropping the items. I've suggested before making an epic quest that covers every stage in the game. To do a single quest that takes longer to complete than actually capping at 71, and only getting a weapon, is beyond retarded IMO.

Brave Sir Robin
09-19-2012, 11:32 AM
Or make one like the cyber or FN. Multiple stages, multiple bosses dropping the items. I've suggested before making an epic quest that covers every stage in the game. To do a single quest that takes longer to complete than actually capping at 71, and only getting a weapon, is beyond retarded IMO.

So you are asking for better content.


When thinking of elite campaigns, Frozen Nightmares and Shadow Caves come to mind. These offered much more than a map consisting of 2 rooms and were accessible for much less.

Much like this? ^

So I am with you 100%. It seems, however, that the devs are busy developing other games, hence my suggestion about the AL dungeon ;)

Unfortunately, most people seem to just complain that they won't be able to get their elite weapon... only a few are concerned about the quality of the content.

trunzoc
09-19-2012, 12:20 PM
This is the best way of putting it I've seen. In fact I haven't played PL since I realized how retarded this quest is, and the direction the company is going. I made it to 112, decided that potting does nothing, tried playing unpotted, got booted, LOLed, and logged out. When the devs come up with a better elite quest, I may be back.

This is basically my experience too. Got to 75, and bored, last Thursday. I haven't logged in since.

cjswogkstkdg
09-19-2012, 12:46 PM
10 a day is 50 days ... so you will be at around 150 - 200 when the quest ends. Perhaps if we knew how long we had we would not have that fear.

Ill be cappin in a year <_<

Is the item even worth it?

Cobraguy
09-19-2012, 01:35 PM
To do a single quest that takes longer to complete than actually capping at 71, and only getting a weapon, is beyond retarded IMO.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Glad I realized this before I got past 10 Ichors.....

LwMark
09-19-2012, 02:10 PM
To do a single quest that takes longer to complete than actually capping at 71, and only getting a weapon, is beyond retarded IMO.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Glad I realized this before I got past 10 Ichors.....

253/500

CodyBearr
09-19-2012, 02:18 PM
Sounds like a HUGE waste of time... I'm glad I stopped playing

They were better of making an insane quest like this if they were never gonna raise the cap again or not for a year+

But ya I mainly stopped because plat is everything in PL :-/

Jugernugetx
09-19-2012, 02:31 PM
I joined a game and got kicked for no elixir.

Guys, you dont need elixirs..

FluffNStuff
09-19-2012, 02:33 PM
I joined a game and got kicked for no elixir.

Guys, you dont need elixirs..

You don't need elixirs to do it once ...

Chopper
09-19-2012, 03:43 PM
The people running this quest on elixirs i feel sorry for. So much plat and money spent on thousands of runs on a pink item that will mean nothing in a few weeks. Wow.

Subscriber
09-19-2012, 03:57 PM
Only the volconut is kinda' like exclusive to me right now.. All this stuff for 71 right now is bogus for such hard work, in a game, that is.

Suentous PO
09-19-2012, 04:01 PM
The people running this quest on elixirs i feel sorry for. So much plat and money spent on thousands of runs on a pink item that will mean nothing in a few weeks. Wow.
dont have any feelings for me, ill only break yer heart, lol.
if it "means nothing" then thats your opinion. it means something to me in a way. pvp kdr's are "meaningless" to me personally but a great source of pride to some, i wouldent tell someone else their accomplishment is meaningless. i like having some exclusive things, no big.
do what you have fun doing, its all so simple.

gibol1412
09-19-2012, 05:03 PM
I finished quest with my archer. I decide to take Axe to my bear. Doing this quest second time now. Omg!

Ogbuehi
09-19-2012, 07:54 PM
Good job gibol. I had some good runs with you.

Patricks
09-19-2012, 08:00 PM
There is lots of time to finish the quest now that we know the next expansion doesnt come out til late october at the earliest.

Energizeric
09-19-2012, 08:31 PM
There is lots of time to finish the quest now that we know the next expansion doesnt come out til late october at the earliest.

SHHHHH!! don't tell them, I want my axe to be a very rare elite item :)

McBain
09-20-2012, 02:27 AM
There is lots of time to finish the quest now that we know the next expansion doesnt come out til late october at the earliest.


Lots of time? At this rate, I feel like I wouldn't get to 500 ichors in a month even if all I did was farm them all day. :indecisiveness:

Patricks
09-20-2012, 04:39 AM
There is lots of time to finish the quest now that we know the next expansion doesnt come out til late october at the earliest.


Lots of time? At this rate, I feel like I wouldn't get to 500 ichors in a month even if all I did was farm them all day. :indecisiveness:

If all you did was farm them all day and still couldn't get to 500 ichors in a month, you are very very VERY stoned EVERYDAY. Lol.

McBain
09-20-2012, 05:32 AM
If all you did was farm them all day and still couldn't get to 500 ichors in a month, you are very very VERY stoned EVERYDAY. Lol.

I, like...um, have no idea what you're talking about, man.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/marcru/cheech.gif

ZHEOTARE
09-20-2012, 05:05 PM
253/500

Still playing??


For a while :/ or a lil bit idk depends
Recently have had some BAD health issues, involvin liver and some other stuff inside, got to take care of this first, i only got to like 211 inchors yo lol but ye im omw to hospital, cya guys later, enjoy halloween event :)

Ogbuehi
09-20-2012, 06:39 PM
306/500. Finally got my first pink as well. Sold in 10 minutes.

McBain
09-21-2012, 03:31 AM
I did runs for a solid two hours non-stop today and got maybe 6-7 ichors. How are y'all completing this quest? :miserable:

Ugh. Just ugh.

Ogbuehi
09-21-2012, 04:07 PM
I did runs for a solid two hours non-stop today and got maybe 6-7 ichors. How are y'all completing this quest? :miserable:

Ugh. Just ugh.

It depends on how many runs your getting done in that time frame. That's why I prefer to have thrashers in my group. With the right team I can get one run done in less than 2 minutes. That's 60 runs in 2 hours and probably a 50% drop rate. That's would be 30 ichors. Running like that, just imagine what those who do runs for 8 hours or longer. You could in theory get it done in a day and a half if you didn't have any responsibilities like school or work.

CrimsonTider
09-21-2012, 04:18 PM
It depends on how many runs your getting done in that time frame. That's why I prefer to have thrashers in my group. With the right team I can get one run done in less than 2 minutes. That's 60 runs in 2 hours and probably a 50% drop rate. That's would be 30 ichors. Running like that, just imagine what those who do runs for 8 hours or longer. You could in theory get it done in a day and a half if you didn't have any responsibilities like school or work.

In lies the problem that many of us have lives. :)

McBain
09-21-2012, 05:03 PM
Yeah, if it weren't for real life responsibilities....:playful:

That, and the fact that there's no way in h-e-double-hockey-sticks I'd spend that much plat on thrashers. Nothing against those who do, but in my head I can never justify spending real life money on elixirs.

Ogbuehi
09-21-2012, 08:36 PM
In lies the problem that many of us have lives. :)

Exactly. Hence why I'm not quite sure if I'll even finish it time.

Energizeric
09-22-2012, 12:19 AM
yay!!

http://imageshack.us/a/img831/4535/photoxl.png


Half way done!!

Ogbuehi
09-22-2012, 06:09 AM
yay!!

http://imageshack.us/a/img831/4535/photoxl.png


Half way done!!

Just keep on trucking. Take advantage of the weekend!!!!!

Energizeric
09-23-2012, 12:48 AM
Just keep on trucking. Take advantage of the weekend!!!!!

I actually don't think I'm going to do it anymore. Apparently 263 was the magic number for me. Reached that number late last night and then played about 6 hours today and did not get one single ichor all day. So I've about had it. I think I'll just wait until the next level cap comes out and merch until then.

LwMark
09-23-2012, 01:38 AM
330

Cobraguy
09-23-2012, 02:43 AM
I actually don't think I'm going to do it anymore. Apparently 263 was the magic number for me. Reached that number late last night and then played about 6 hours today and did not get one single ichor all day. So I've about had it. I think I'll just wait until the next level cap comes out and merch until then.

Wow, that's ridiculous.....

McBain
09-23-2012, 03:12 AM
I actually don't think I'm going to do it anymore. Apparently 263 was the magic number for me. Reached that number late last night and then played about 6 hours today and did not get one single ichor all day. So I've about had it. I think I'll just wait until the next level cap comes out and merch until then.

I gave up at 70, so you're a much more patient person than I. Seriously? 6 hours and not a single one?

The Flash
09-23-2012, 04:04 AM
I actually don't think I'm going to do it anymore. Apparently 263 was the magic number for me. Reached that number late last night and then played about 6 hours today and did not get one single ichor all day. So I've about had it. I think I'll just wait until the next level cap comes out and merch until then.

I gave up at 70, so you're a much more patient person than I. Seriously? 6 hours and not a single one?

The whole random drop rate is dumb not the quest. I hope that spacetime studios learns from this. Make it more but not random. There were times when i went 12 without seeing one drop. However kept telling myself i was farming dragon gear and not doing the quest lol.

One good thing that comes from this is that only the really determined and hardcore will earn it.

Ogbuehi
09-23-2012, 07:29 AM
The whole random drop rate is dumb not the quest. I hope that spacetime studios learns from this. Make it more but not random. There were times when i went 12 without seeing one drop. However kept telling myself i was farming dragon gear and not doing the quest lol.

One good thing that comes from this is that only the really determined and hardcore will earn it.

I don't think only the hardcore will get this. I'm not hardcore and I'm at 405. The hardcore got it in 2-5 days. At this cap with all the quests done, the only thing really left to do is hope I can get in a mystery mash game or this quest. At least this quest gives me a little reason to keep playing pl until the next cap comes out. The thing I hate is doing these crazy quests just to get an okay weapon. There should be more incentive. I'll say the bonus of this stage is getting pinks I've been able to sell for 2-3m in 10 minutes within getting them. Zillionaire is looking more and more likely for me with another pink I have that's selling at 5m. I should be able to get it at a decent % of that.

Elyseon
09-23-2012, 11:42 AM
Vegetables with no minds get it it seems
;D

Ogbuehi
09-23-2012, 09:08 PM
Well, what a pretty nice evening. Up to 456/500 ichors, thanks to my good friend and I doing super aggro's. Getting a 3x blessing for 24 hours was a nice bonus. All this in a few hours while doing my laundry, cleaning my house, cooking my dinner, and cutting my grass. I think I see the light.

Subscriber
09-23-2012, 09:23 PM
Once I hit a 3x blessing on mah bird, I'll do some runs. :D It stacks and helps a butt load.

Suentous PO
09-24-2012, 03:59 PM
Vegetables with no minds get it it seems
;D

http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r586/stephencobear/C3247546-2F93-4A2B-8D95-BC29415D342B-11311-00001CB3ECFF21BF.jpg

Ogbuehi
09-24-2012, 07:24 PM
Once I hit a 3x blessing on mah bird, I'll do some runs. :D It stacks and helps a butt load.

I wouldn't stack anything on the 3x. I could barely notice the difference when I threw a dumpster on top of it. 488.

Subscriber
09-24-2012, 07:39 PM
I wouldn't stack anything on the 3x. I could barely notice the difference when I threw a dumpster on top of it. 488.

Really? I did haha, I was pumping out 2,000's.. Hmm.

Ogbuehi
09-24-2012, 09:34 PM
I was killing those guys in 5 hits with and without the dumpster. So I just left the dumpster off and saved the plat. Doesn't matter now though, quest is done. Thanks to all who helped me endure this quest. I'm not going back unless its to help friends who helped me that send me in game. That's if I'm not on,with my other toon helping my daughter level up. Does anybody know what the other 2 quests are? I think one is the blessings.

Subscriber
09-24-2012, 10:32 PM
I was killing those guys in 5 hits with and without the dumpster. So I just left the dumpster off and saved the plat. Doesn't matter now though, quest is done. Thanks to all who helped me endure this quest. I'm not going back unless its to help friends who helped me that send me in game. That's if I'm not on,with my other toon helping my daughter level up. Does anybody know what the other 2 quests are? I think one is the blessings.

Host a Forest Haven, map level 2, that's one quest.

Energizeric
09-25-2012, 12:24 AM
Techno said something about stacking only being possible up to a max amount, so I think maybe you bumped into the max amount. But the luck would stack so 30 + 35 + 15 (my big luck helm) = 80 (almost as good as shamus)

pointblast5
09-25-2012, 02:05 AM
they should make an elixer for people whov reached the cap wich has 4 times damage armor in stead of 3 times and a faster speed boost and no exp boost

Ogbuehi
09-25-2012, 04:28 AM
they should make an elixer for people whov reached the cap wich has 4 times damage armor in stead of 3 times and a faster speed boost and no exp boost

I agree with this. It's kind of a waste to spend part of the plat on an elixir that helps you earn xp I don't need.

Fncrazy
09-25-2012, 09:57 AM
they should make an elixer for people whov reached the cap wich has 4 times damage armor in stead of 3 times and a faster speed boost and no exp boost

I agree

Ephesius
09-26-2012, 02:18 PM
The elite quest is actuslly not dumb

Ogbuehi
09-26-2012, 07:45 PM
Host a Forest Haven, map level 2, that's one quest.

I did that, talked to the guy. I even completed the stage just for the heck of it. Still no credit for any quest.

Elyseon
09-26-2012, 08:35 PM
they should make an elixer for people whov reached the cap wich has 4 times damage armor in stead of 3 times and a faster speed boost and no exp boost
way too many elixirs as it is, what they should do is have a 10k plat elixir and it would disable all elixir use for 24 hours ;D id buy fo' sho'

CrimsonTider
09-26-2012, 08:39 PM
way too many elixirs as it is, what they should do is have a 10k plat elixir and it would disable all elixir use for 24 hours ;D id buy fo' sho'

o.O

You would pay $450 just to have elixirs disabled for 1 day? I can't even think of a response...

Elyseon
09-26-2012, 08:42 PM
o.O

You would pay $450 just to have elixirs disabled for 1 day? I can't even think of a response...
then y did u respond ;D
ofc id wait for the first day of the new cap :DDDDDDD

Cobraguy
09-26-2012, 08:56 PM
The elite quest is actuslly not dumb

Most of your posts are though.....

gibol1412
10-01-2012, 09:04 AM
Hello. I finish this quest second time. I got elite axe first, now bow. Many thanks to all people playing with me.

Suentous PO
10-01-2012, 09:57 AM
Elyseons Elixir of Anti-Elixir! cost..999k plat (dotd)
Effect: cancels the effect of all other elixirs in all spacetime games for one day.
Stacking! "LEARN TO PLAY NIBS!"-Elyseon.

Techno Email
10-01-2012, 10:10 AM
I did that, talked to the guy. I even completed the stage just for the heck of it. Still no credit for any quest.

I assume you already did this, but just in case - make sure you go back and talk to the quest giver to turn the quest in. :)

springtime
10-01-2012, 02:54 PM
Agreed

Htiek
10-11-2012, 04:16 AM
125/500, 30 a day
still need 12 days...