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2021thalissa
07-14-2023, 07:56 AM
Arcane is getting a lot of hate! Arcane is still amazing and many of the RPGs out there doesn’t have what it has so those who are giving up. I’d say hang on, let’s makes suggestions as a community and this is the only good thought I came up with. Tell me what you guy’s think. I just think everyone would be satisfied if they make the bosses in each map drop the gear the player needs from arcane to mythic at that map level. Entering fester, the bosses would drop Spirit, Ebon 71- 76 to arcane. Think about this. less complaints would be made. Literally there would be nothing to complain about. This would balance out everything. This is the best solution and a really good suggestion. Please take this into consideration. I mean who wouldn’t wanna farm bosses in every map for the gear they need. No one would struggle. I get that everyone want to make profit from the weapons in action but take a sacrifice for a good game feature with looting them all from the appropriate bosses. I mean it would help us all guys. Think hard about this, the weapons would still be a good price. I don’t wanna see these players quitting this amazing successful rpg just because the weapons are too expensive. Make them work for them with the bosses we have. It would bring relevance back to all of the bosses. I know events are set as primary for that but there are so many other cool think you could get from the events like speed set’s vanity and other things, important stuff. Once again, it won’t hurt for the weapons to reduce all the weapons to reduce at prices a little. After all, who is wanting to buy a 300m weapon. New players can’t afford 30m sadly, I’ve came this conclusion. It would be awesome to loot weapons you need for each map from every boss. PLEASE READ THIS, THANKS!!!.


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QuaseT
07-14-2023, 08:00 AM
People are less likely to open lockeds if they know that the arcanes will drop from bosses later on. Most people exclusively open lockeds for kraken items (or previous arcane gear in earlier expansions).

XLYD al
07-14-2023, 08:20 AM
You can farm lv76 arcanes In vardan valley (token farm and opening lockeds )

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Fytheo
07-14-2023, 08:21 AM
It would be a long run but definitely a good idea.

If I have to run maps, make them interesting. Make the combat interesing. Make the loot interesting.

+1

Fytheo
07-14-2023, 08:23 AM
People are less likely to open lockeds if they know that the arcanes will drop from bosses later on. Most people exclusively open lockeds for kraken items (or previous arcane gear in earlier expansions).

True. Definitely what would have to be taken in consideration. But discarding this idea is a bad move. It definitely could be balanced.

2021thalissa
07-14-2023, 08:35 AM
Some players don’t like farming bosses. Maybe the people who don’t feel like farming them could just get it out of the lock. if you think about it, there’s also many things other than weapons that you could get out of a locked chest, it wouldn’t hurt anything. This idea would give the lower levels less stress if they loot a glintstone weapon. They they could proceed through the maps with boss gear drops with a chance of dropping mythic to arcane. It would relieve some stress on the newer players an wouldn’t have to beg upper levels for help or quit because of a boss being too hard for them. Ofc they can make the drop chance light that way players won’t abuse it. It can always bring relevance to luck charms again, that would give them a meaning again rather than it just being used to loot 2k gold locks that give no profit. I’d say this would be a fun update to have boss weapons and boss gear drop for the different levels. It would bring many players back in fact, I’m sure the price in the game for them was overwhelming. With this idea, it’s would relieve stress and they could get through all the maps and participate in events, with that being said it would motivate them to replay the same map over and over just to get the weapon they are looking for from the boss. Also there would be no complaints on how slow the level process is because everyone would be so focused on getting the weapon they need from that boss to push through.


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2021thalissa
07-14-2023, 08:52 AM
It would be a long run but definitely a good idea.

If I have to run maps, make them interesting. Make the combat interesing. Make the loot interesting.

+1

I agree, it’s gives meaning to the bosses and awareness to them. They’re important to the game just like we all are. People would also be able to follow the story line smoothly without any bumps of difficulty on their journey. It would give many players the opportunity of obtaining boss gear who can’t afford gear. It safe to say we could work for our gear by farming. Can’t go wrong, it really wouldn’t hurt anything, the prices on the gear wouldn’t really drop like that because people are still wanting to buy good awakes in gear. But overall I don’t think any gear shouldn’t be unlootable from bosses. I don’t wanna see that taken away from AL players because of financial reasons or other issues.


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Switchback
07-14-2023, 09:17 AM
I remember when i was new, i literally leveled up solo as a mage and farmed my butt off to get stuff. Unlike most 'New Players' i went and bought gear and not vanities.

The bosses wouldnt become more relevant imo( Unless you count not at all to 1% of the population..sometimes), whatever gear u drop from them would become irrelevant very quickly due to huge power checks 76,81.

Alot of times the only thing worth it out of locks is the Kraken items, so you couldnt do it to kraken.


Struggling to achieve a goal will make you more resilient & tac.

2021thalissa
07-14-2023, 09:44 AM
I remember when i was new, i literally leveled up solo as a mage and farmed my butt off to get stuff. Unlike most 'New Players' i went and bought gear and not vanities.

The bosses wouldnt become more relevant imo( Unless you count not at all to 1% of the population..sometimes), whatever gear u drop from them would become irrelevant very quickly due to huge power checks 76,81.

Alot of times the only thing worth it out of locks is the Kraken items, so you couldnt do it to kraken.


Struggling to achieve a goal will make you more resilient & tac.

I understand you farmed a lot back then but things are changing now with price spikes, safe to say all Arcane weapons should be obtained through bosses and could possibly be collected to put in your own AL home. And understandable with the “gear becoming irrelevant quickly” but understand that new players could also sell that gear to afford housing things or start a guild or possibly get a pet. And a reminder, the drops wouldn’t be that high of a chance. It would be set to a low drop rate to which the player could redo the map over and over gaining xp focusing on getting the gear drop. And the “Locks” I understand many rely heavily on them, but there are auras and so much more in locks. Also Kraken. The kraken gear you would also be able to obtain, I know most don’t like talking about free to play players but it’ll give all players the chance of obtaining kraken arcane and mythic through the specific boss. We don’t wanna get to a point when we have to put 300m down for a 86 gear piece. Ultimately this idea would prevent blockages in obtaining the gears we all need by obtaining it through bosses.


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2021thalissa
07-14-2023, 09:56 AM
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This is all the evidence. Players wouldn’t be having this problem. Understand that this could be resolved in a good way


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|Ares|
07-14-2023, 09:57 AM
It's almost like no one has suggested that before, like 5 times or so. Probably won't happen.

2021thalissa
07-14-2023, 10:06 AM
It's almost like no one has suggested that before, like 5 times or so. Probably won't happen.

Understandable, I’ll just hope this grabs someone’s attention bringing awareness to patch the cracks.


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Posl
07-14-2023, 10:32 AM
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I disagree with this idea - I played a game similar to what you just suggested and that game isn’t doing so great they have to constantly recreate new server and merge them with new server and it’s a dead game full of bots - I played that game with no p2w wall I was at the time best player of my class in LB I was rank 1 and my guild was rank 1(I was the GM)

Fytheo
07-14-2023, 10:39 AM
It's almost like no one has suggested that before, like 5 times or so. Probably won't happen.

That's a loser attitude. Do you ever get up when life hits u?

2021thalissa
07-14-2023, 11:18 AM
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I disagree with this idea - I played a game similar to what you just suggested and that game isn’t doing so great they have to constantly recreate new server and merge them with new server and it’s a dead game full of bots - I played that game with no p2w wall I was at the time best player of my class in LB I was rank 1 and my guild was rank 1(I was the GM)

It’s not about “ pay to win” it’s about making it possible for all players to obtain gear through hard farming instead or just resulting our focus on locks and auction. Ask yourself where would new players get such millions. It’s not about only pay to win, and regardless there will still be players who are paying to get certain things like vanity’s but with this idea, it waters down the pay to win which would result in a good outcome. This whole picture I’m painting is about independence in the game for players. Not them having to rely on upper levels to carry due to lack of gear investments or not being able to run the new map having to wait for a free 81 focused on that specific event for gear. even then without the events that require farming for gear, how else do you expect the players to experience the map? It’s about equality. Meaning all players will get the attention they deserve and being able to enjoy the storyline. But I understand your disagreement due to your old money in the game or whatever it is you do to earn.


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2021thalissa
07-14-2023, 11:35 AM
Understand the importance of all in AL, take everyone into consideration for a good result in the end. With that being said, know that it would have a great outcome. In life there are always sacrifices, granted this isn’t real life but it’s reality. True the prices of gear would drop but once again know that people are into the awakes on the gear your looting/obtaining from the bosses. It wouldn’t damage anything in auction, the only outcome would come is a positive one along with fairness and consideration of all AL’s players.


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|Ares|
07-14-2023, 02:00 PM
That's a loser attitude. Do you ever get up when life hits u?

"Thank you Spacetimestudios for being a part of my life."

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Jdjd
07-14-2023, 02:18 PM
Your suggestion isn t good at all. All arcane gear would drop in price. But instead of these a very very very good idea is to make small events of 1-2 weeks that drop specific arcane gear( for level 71-76-81) so price would decrease when event is, and increase after event.

2021thalissa
07-14-2023, 02:29 PM
I get that you would like to worry about making profit with the idea of keeping the gear expensive but it would be better off this way. Also, players are wanting a smooth game experience without the bumps an hurdles along with the struggle of affording unaffordable gear. Besides, everyone would rather have gear than worry about price drops in one area. Even kraken players are complaining about not having kraken gear. Put this ida into effect and no more complaints would happen about not having gear. The only one’s that would be complaining are the ones who are too lazy to farm bosses for them. There’s tons of things to make profit from in the game also and like I said previously. There will be a low chance drop rate so prices wouldn’t really be a concern. Not that price drops should be our main focus anyways. Our main focus is everyone being able to kill/farm all bosses for gear to make it to the next map completing the storyline.


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Fytheo
07-14-2023, 02:48 PM
"Thank you Spacetimestudios for being a part of my life."

There's the answer

What are you implying?

Posl
07-14-2023, 05:22 PM
Look up game call “tale of wind” everything you said above is in that game and it’s pay to win game and the maps do drop lot of end items to each level

Sulphurea
07-14-2023, 05:55 PM
I wasn't aware AL became communist Russia lel where is written that everybody should be the same in a game like this? And once everybody gonna get everything and all will be able to do everything then what? You don't think that we all started somewhere at some point? Prices changed? Ofc. But 20m of 10 years ago where waaay harder to collect than what it is now to make gold. Took me literally months to farm mauso with legendary gear to save that 2m i needed for buying Nekro. Start understand that you can't get all you want in 3 days of "hard farming" as you call it. This general mood that all should be easy for all is absurd

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Greazemk
07-14-2023, 06:58 PM
What are you implying?

This game is super done, I think its that obvious.

2021thalissa
07-14-2023, 07:42 PM
I wasn't aware AL became communist Russia lel where is written that everybody should be the same in a game like this? And once everybody gonna get everything and all will be able to do everything then what? You don't think that we all started somewhere at some point? Prices changed? Ofc. But 20m of 10 years ago where waaay harder to collect than what it is now to make gold. Took me literally months to farm mauso with legendary gear to save that 2m i needed for buying Nekro. Start understand that you can't get all you want in 3 days of "hard farming" as you call it. This general mood that all should be easy for all is absurd

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10 years ago, it was a different game. Thing’s do change in fact. Say if it was to happen, just remember that it’s a new year which means new adjustments could be implemented. With that being said I stand on change. Obviously I understand you’re not caring if others obtain and experience all the game has to offer. Sad to say but I’ll just say, people like you are the reason no one is satisfied. You also like to put extra words in that I didn’t state, that’s the only thing that was “easy and absurd” I see. But regardless whatever your talking about, people wanna be satisfied and farm for what they want with a decent drop rate. I understand that your afraid you’ll make less profit but know it’s not about that. It’s about new players of 2023. It’s a new year/game. Just sit back and enjoy the adjustments. On top of that, they all care about what the community thinks obviously if they’ve made changes recently. Who’s to say they will stop? But anyways you’ll realize to find out everything is changing for the better. As long as the AL community keeps pushing for what they want.


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2021thalissa
07-14-2023, 07:45 PM
The ones that understand what’s really for the best at least.


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chiiwawa
07-14-2023, 09:01 PM
"Thank you Spacetimestudios for being a part of my life."

There's the answer

made me giggle...hehe

Posl
07-14-2023, 09:54 PM
So where are the hard working newer players that are doing just sitting instead of farming a week or a month to earn proper amount of rewards like we used to do back in the days while we were still new to games? All I have seen is new players coming in game not getting the best gears in game within a week or two and not maxing out level in a week or less?? Tell me where can I find those so wanting to properly play the game?

Posl
07-14-2023, 10:07 PM
So you think it’s all about old money and gold and the reason I’m disagreeing with you(side note I’m not sulphurea alt account) well it’s not about that. The reason I’m disagreeing with your statements is simply put it - it’s a game killing suggestion I do not wish devs to implement it and kill the game more - yes it may seems fun and glorious for few weeks or month but it will kill everything from items value to farming value to bosses value and new events meaning because why should we even do event if bosses in map can legit drop the best gears in game?? Where will be the value of auction and stable healthly event ideas will be used if everything can be farmed in map and bosses can drop - blah blah don’t go saying it will not effect if it just 0.05% drop rate or 0.001% bc they are just bs ?? So tell me what’s makes you think this game changing effect will not shut down and make people quite game once they have the best gears in game??

Posl
07-14-2023, 10:10 PM
Let’s say devs implement this suggestion of yours and how will you handle the backlash of your suggestion? Once event and auction losses it values?

2021thalissa
07-14-2023, 10:13 PM
They won’t, event’s don’t revolve around gear.


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Posl
07-14-2023, 10:14 PM
What makes you say that looting end game gears and having no value to farm anymore can keep them motivated to play this game?? What makes you think they will be satisfied with event devs will implement in game once they have the best gears in game via farming bosses?

2021thalissa
07-14-2023, 10:16 PM
All that being worked for yes through hard farming


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Posl
07-14-2023, 10:17 PM
What makes you say that event doesn’t revolve around gears ?? I’m pretty sure all the new players will want gears and gold not just vanity from event since from what you stated bosses “should drop end game gears” So what makes you say it will not ?

Posl
07-14-2023, 10:19 PM
So are we talking about early days glint set farming level difficultly or below or above to get those end game gears ??

2021thalissa
07-14-2023, 10:21 PM
I was saying fore each boss make gear lootable. Not saying put it at a high drop rate.


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Posl
07-14-2023, 10:24 PM
Even if it 0.000000000% drop rate we have luck elixir and pets with luck AA and HB and gears with luck awaken or passive luck given by item ?? So what’s the drop rate percentage are we looking at for your statement to make the drop rate be balanced

2021thalissa
07-14-2023, 10:28 PM
So your saying that you don’t care if the unable people don’t get kraken gear or any gear that there not able to afford. In other words your against it sadly


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Posl
07-14-2023, 10:31 PM
I’m not against it sadly enough it just people are not putting enough work in game and devs are not providing proper event and expansion on my opinion for newer players to have fun and grow - Also no there are LOT OF WAYS TO EARN GOLD IN THIS GAME NOT JUST RUNNING HARDCORE MAP OR END GAME MAPS!!! It might take times but they should be able to earn at least 20-50million in month if they just put work

Posl
07-14-2023, 10:35 PM
Here is one example
They can run elite nordr or kraken islands or any elite maps to farm for elite chest or elite warchest

2021thalissa
07-14-2023, 10:35 PM
Well that’s okay if you are. I respect it, just realize that there are a ton more players that see differently than your idea or mine but overall most people would want to free play. Gear is an essential in the game, profit from gear shouldn’t even be a thing when your needing them so why not work for gear by farming instead or breaking your pocket.


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Posl
07-14-2023, 10:39 PM
Alright let’s say players gets what they want but what will happen to plat value where do you want it to be put it on? If sts doesn’t earn money how will they pay their employees and bring new content to this game? Since a AL doesn’t have monthly subscription fee and this game isn’t even buy to play it’s free to play.

2021thalissa
07-14-2023, 10:40 PM
I’m not against it sadly enough it just people are not putting enough work in game and devs are not providing proper event and expansion on my opinion for newer players to have fun and grow - Also no there are LOT OF WAYS TO EARN GOLD IN THIS GAME NOT JUST RUNNING HARDCORE MAP OR END GAME MAPS!!! It might take times but they should be able to earn at least 20-50million in month if they just put work

In a month 50m. That’s pretty bizarre/extremely, knowing that kraken is up to 245m. Pretty long time, it’s not gonna make people stay. I mean realistically most people have jobs, they’re not gonna spend a month getting 50m when prices are exceeding the average prices. Pretty insane. Think about it though.


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Posl
07-14-2023, 10:43 PM
If you make 50m a month and would you not be able to buy mythic sets that are better than they would be wearing and wouldn’t they be able to farm in zodias normal maps to earn better rewards??

2021thalissa
07-14-2023, 10:43 PM
It would be put on aura’s, the plat. Vanity’s, future… I could go on. But you make good suggestions too about the having better events yes.


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Posl
07-14-2023, 10:49 PM
The best thing sts can do right now is bring level 86 expansion and bring new system to game that can works with lower level people - for example they could bring skill awakening system or unbound event either ways and make it possible for lower level to have fun while giving veterans players like us new experience with new skills and combos to use in map after theses two things are over I suggest they bring a mini gold event or exp event so newer player can still enjoy the game if they can pull up something like these Im sure AL will be good for at least 9 months than they will have to think introducing new items and vanity this way people will have consistently things to do while enjoying the game

2021thalissa
07-14-2023, 10:54 PM
I do like that idea, it sounds passive good


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Sulphurea
07-15-2023, 01:08 AM
10 years ago, it was a different game. Thing’s do change in fact. Say if it was to happen, just remember that it’s a new year which means new adjustments could be implemented. With that being said I stand on change. Obviously I understand you’re not caring if others obtain and experience all the game has to offer. Sad to say but I’ll just say, people like you are the reason no one is satisfied. You also like to put extra words in that I didn’t state, that’s the only thing that was “easy and absurd” I see. But regardless whatever your talking about, people wanna be satisfied and farm for what they want with a decent drop rate. I understand that your afraid you’ll make less profit but know it’s not about that. It’s about new players of 2023. It’s a new year/game. Just sit back and enjoy the adjustments. On top of that, they all care about what the community thinks obviously if they’ve made changes recently. Who’s to say they will stop? But anyways you’ll realize to find out everything is changing for the better. As long as the AL community keeps pushing for what they want.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLmao ydek what you talking about trust me. Never spent a single euro nor bought any plat and if you knew me you would know i'm the worst when it comes to prices and selling stuff. You think all comes from the sky? I was not even playing 10 years ago lmao and being a lb runner means i gotta adjust to stuff faster than others if i wanna remain in it. Do i want random kids that start AL get all what they want in one week? Arrived at this point tbh idc much if they get or not, what i say is you really so surprised they don't? Content is there and is up to each of us playing it or not. Many old players quitted cause they couldn't find a way to like changes. And yk what makes me laugh? That literally for months i couldn't afford kraken gear cause i was focusing portals bosses over gl farming and didn't even dare to go erahab random cause i knew i was not strong enough. I started farm erahab after months of farming normal rahab using zaarus and only once i could buy the weapon and armor. And never once i threw hate on others just cause they could afford what i couldn't. Farm many hours of each rahab opening and you'll get what u want at some point

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Fytheo
07-15-2023, 05:49 AM
What makes you giggle? I have been playing it since I was 11. Now I am 22.

I love the game. It's kinda boring for me at the moment and hss been for the few past years. I had a wonderful childhood and games are a part of it. Especially AL.

2021thalissa
07-15-2023, 07:21 AM
Lmao ydek what you talking about trust me. Never spent a single euro nor bought any plat and if you knew me you would know i'm the worst when it comes to prices and selling stuff. You think all comes from the sky? I was not even playing 10 years ago lmao and being a lb runner means i gotta adjust to stuff faster than others if i wanna remain in it. Do i want random kids that start AL get all what they want in one week? Arrived at this point tbh idc much if they get or not, what i say is you really so surprised they don't? Content is there and is up to each of us playing it or not. Many old players quitted cause they couldn't find a way to like changes. And yk what makes me laugh? That literally for months i couldn't afford kraken gear cause i was focusing portals bosses over gl farming and didn't even dare to go erahab random cause i knew i was not strong enough. I started farm erahab after months of farming normal rahab using zaarus and only once i could buy the weapon and armor. And never once i threw hate on others just cause they could afford what i couldn't. Farm many hours of each rahab opening and you'll get what u want at some point

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So your thinking it’s good the way it is with having to work months for kraken and gear in general?


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2021thalissa
07-15-2023, 07:23 AM
Events are in fact pretty fun


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Sulphurea
07-15-2023, 07:27 AM
So your thinking it’s good the way it is with having to work months for kraken and gear in general?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI think working hard for something has 2 possible outcomes: 1) or you push and finally get it and you feel rewarded by the effort or 2) rightfully you decide you don't wanna invest that much time and effort. It's entirely up to us. I'm running catacombs atm and even with kraken is very hard and takes long runs and my hands hurt at the end but i am with my friend and we enjoy and if one of us loot we happy. This is the game in the end

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