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Yich
10-03-2012, 06:54 PM
So how come the devs didn't say anything about the obvious raise in the drop rate of many rare items?

EDIT: oh and would anyone like to go and count the infinite suggestion threads suggesting FH recipes and 56 glyph drop rates being raised? I think the devs commented on a few, and then players just did it for them "this has been suggested a lot and the devs said no. It's not going to happen". Well, guess it happened..

cookiez
10-03-2012, 07:01 PM
I was wondering about that too...

Rare
10-03-2012, 07:02 PM
They did it to make you ask questions. What is life if there are no questions?

GoodSyntax
10-03-2012, 07:02 PM
Yeah, thanks for the heads up! I've been buying Shamrock Thrashers and running in the Nuri's Turnstile - only to find out that the pinks I dropped are almost worthless :-(

If I would have known, I would have sold them off weeks ago, or better yet, not even bothered in the first place and saved all that plat.

Suentous PO
10-03-2012, 07:03 PM
Recipes, and what else?

Yich
10-03-2012, 07:05 PM
Recipes, and what else?


What rare items are you referring to?

All FH recipes. From what I can tell, 56 glyph... I would assume more, but those are the levels I dabble in a bit, so I can't be too sure about others.

Mothwing
10-03-2012, 07:37 PM
Makes sense, I randomly got a recipe yesterday. I never get recipes...

Maybe they chose recipes to help recover low LVL pvp?

Yich
10-03-2012, 07:44 PM
Makes sense, I randomly got a recipe yesterday. I never get recipes...

Maybe they chose recipes to help recover low LVL pvp?

Explain to me how this is recovering low level? How would you like it if all endgame sets could be acquired in a few runs?...

hemanbeast
10-03-2012, 07:46 PM
Explain to me how this is recovering low level? How would you like it if all endgame sets could be acquired in a few runs?...

These armors will be obsolete soon anyway, according to Techno... TYVM STS for screwing with our delicate twinking ;) once again...accidental or not.
It's quite sad when the Crafting Items (AKA Leather Scraps) drop less than the recipes themselves.

This just evens the field between the ones who spent time and the ones who didn't...more and more. Whatever.

Mothwing
10-03-2012, 07:50 PM
Explain to me how this is recovering low level? How would you like it if all endgame sets could be acquired in a few runs?...

Ummm...More recipes->more crafting->more armor->better players?

LwMark
10-03-2012, 07:59 PM
Glyphs for days now! I spent 60plat and made 6m+

Yich
10-03-2012, 08:08 PM
This just evens the field between the ones who spent time and the ones who didn't...more and more. Whatever.


Ummm...More recipes->more crafting->more armor->better players?

Im going to put these two together... Better players.. because more armor.. DF leathers were fairly easy to acquire, if you had the brains to do it. Pjs were easy enough to acquire.
Then back at the first quote, I guess it's a matter of opinion on whether or not that playing field should be evened. I personally think the players with more time in game should have something to show for it, as they do in every other aspect of the game.

Mothwing
10-03-2012, 08:13 PM
Im going to put these two together... Better players.. because more armor.. DF leathers were fairly easy to acquire, if you had the brains to do it. Pjs were easy enough to acquire.
Then back at the first quote, I guess it's a matter of opinion on whether or not that playing field should be evened. I personally think the players with more time in game should have something to show for it, as they do in every other aspect of the game.

Crafted armor is better than both of those...

Yich
10-03-2012, 08:15 PM
Crafted armor is better than both of those...

And it should be harder to obtain as well, now shouldn't it?

Mothwing
10-03-2012, 08:17 PM
And it should be harder to obtain as well, now shouldn't it?

That's my point...

You've been complaining about how much low lvl PVP has been ruined, and now STS does something about it. So, I point it out but you're still arguing with me...

I don't get you...

Yich
10-03-2012, 08:23 PM
That's my point...

You've been complaining about how much low lvl PVP has been ruined, and now STS does something about it. So, I point it out but you're still arguing with me...

I don't get you...

There must be a very big confusion here. Just to straighten it out, I do not think raising the drop rate for recipes was a good update. Seeing as how my "complaining" did nothing about the last update I didn't appreciate, I won't bother with this one. Sure, they "did something about it", but I don't see how this could be a solution... Notice DF leathers are harder to obtain than the crafted armors. That's because in the past, the better an item was, the harder it was to get. I just dont see why they would raise the drop rate for sacredly rare items such as these...

Mothwing
10-03-2012, 08:30 PM
There must be a very big confusion here. Just to straighten it out, I do not think raising the drop rate for recipes was a good update. Seeing as how my "complaining" did nothing about the last update I didn't appreciate, I won't bother with this one. Sure, they "did something about it", but I don't see how this could be a solution... Notice DF leathers are harder to obtain than the crafted armors. That's because in the past, the better an item was, the harder it was to get. I just dont see why they would raise the drop rate for sacredly rare items such as these...

Not necessarily. Keepers staves drop out of the kazoo, and they're great staves for the level.

I still don't get why you're angry. They have given low level PVP a revival, but now you're worried about the "usefulness" and "quality" of an item. Give me a break...Not everything can be just how Yich wants it. Believe it or not you have to make compromises once in a while...

CrimsonTider
10-03-2012, 08:40 PM
How would you like it if all endgame sets could be acquired in a few runs?...

First few weeks after Humania update, if you ran Monster Bash, this was very achievable.

Yich
10-03-2012, 08:42 PM
Not necessarily. Keepers staves drop out of the kazoo, and they're great staves for the level.

I still don't get why you're angry. They have given low level PVP a revival, but now you're worried about the "usefulness" and "quality" of an item. Give me a break...Not everything can be just how Yich wants it. Believe it or not you have to make compromises once in a while...

Im not sure how you come to this conclusion. Yes, some levels have the best items as an easy drop. I personally avoid those levels for PvP and farming (obviously), and I don't often see any tournaments there. Perhaps those are unpopular levels? The only reason low level won't turn into something like this is because low level is where people start the game at, and they discover PvP at around levels 8-20 (usually). Will low levels popularity reflect it's quality as a diverse, fun and engaging level of PvP? My answer to that is a grim, but definite "No." I guess if the "majority" disagree, then who am I to complain, right? Then again, does STS even go to low level PvP and ask them what they think?
Maybe you haven't noticed, but few low level PvP regulars are on forums. Sure, a lot of the Endgamers have low level characters. They are also quick to insult low levels maturity when given the chance. That's why I call them endgamers, and not low level players, no matter how many characters they have.
I really do give up on trying to change any kind of update, believe me. Just know that I'm not the only guy with this opinion, and I'm not in a minority where it matters.

Yich
10-03-2012, 08:44 PM
First few weeks after Humania update, if you ran Monster Bash, this was very achievable.

Didn't last long though, I'm sure. A bug maybe? Bugs are common when releasing new content, something low level players used to not have to deal with.

CrimsonTider
10-03-2012, 08:50 PM
It wasn't a bug.

Subscriber
10-03-2012, 08:54 PM
Yich is like ten-faced.

theregret
10-04-2012, 01:04 AM
Lol check out my meme about the increased drop rates I think its pretty accurate :). My meme can be found on the meme contest thread.

Techno Email
10-04-2012, 01:37 AM
We were getting reports of players not getting loot re-rolls for items of particular rarities in particular dungeons. We put out a fix a day or two after the reports started coming in. The fix required a code change and some changes to the structure of some loot tables. Systemic fixes affect the whole game. Pocket Legends is a REALLY big game, so a subtle but pervasive change can be more apparent from one dungeon to the next based on item rarity, % of players in that level range, popularity of items in any given zone...

So, yes - it looks like this was probably the result of a fix we put in for loot re-roll. There have been no stealth missions to get more crafting recipes out on the market...YET!! :onthego:

Techno Email
10-04-2012, 02:12 AM
First few weeks after Humania update, if you ran Monster Bash, this was very achievable.

I don't know if I'd say this was a bug fix that changed this, so much as I just made some balance changes when Humania legendary items were turning out to be more common than I had hoped. (Techno Email == Meany!!) Now I'm less n00bish and more learned in the ways of drop rates, so all drop rates will be absolutely perfect on day one of release, from now until forever... J/K, LOL! ;)

LwMark
10-04-2012, 02:16 AM
so yall are goin to fix it, so i got my sm 56 just in time :p

Techno Email
10-04-2012, 10:11 AM
so yall are goin to fix it, so i got my sm 56 just in time :p

Exactly! ;) Nah, J/K. :) The changes are a result of that re-roll fix. If players were supposed to be able to re-roll to a particular item and they couldn't, that item would be really rare. Fixing the issue makes the item more common for players who are using big-luck, luck elixirs, etc.

Yich
10-04-2012, 10:43 AM
Exactly! ;) Nah, J/K. :) The changes are a result of that re-roll fix. If players were supposed to be able to re-roll to a particular item and they couldn't, that item would be really rare. Fixing the issue makes the item more common for players who are using big-luck, luck elixirs, etc.

So the game is now entirely purchasable with platinum, dragon vanities aside. The once elite items to recieve having a raise in drop rate, that is something noobs (pardon my use of common gaming slang) have asked for for months. It was never considered a bug before, so why now?

Patricks
10-04-2012, 11:13 AM
Exactly! ;) Nah, J/K. :) The changes are a result of that re-roll fix. If players were supposed to be able to re-roll to a particular item and they couldn't, that item would be really rare. Fixing the issue makes the item more common for players who are using big-luck, luck elixirs, etc.

So the game is now entirely purchasable with platinum, dragon vanities aside. The once elite items to recieve having a raise in drop rate, that is something noobs (pardon my use of common gaming slang) have asked for for months. It was never considered a bug before, so why now?

Because luck elixirs are fairly new and they want to make sure it works everywhere.

I don't think drop rates have increased without luck.

Also, it makes pvp more balanced since more ppl can afford the best pvp twink gear. You seem very concerned about pvp so you should be happy. However, you seem bothered by it.

Seems odd you are so concerned about unbalanced forgotten bows ruining twink pvp but bothered by the balancing effect toward twink pvp the new drop rates create.

Zapoke
10-04-2012, 11:26 AM
We were getting reports of players not getting loot re-rolls for items of particular rarities in particular dungeons. We put out a fix a day or two after the reports started coming in. The fix required a code change and some changes to the structure of some loot tables. Systemic fixes affect the whole game. Pocket Legends is a REALLY big game, so a subtle but pervasive change can be more apparent from one dungeon to the next based on item rarity, % of players in that level range, popularity of items in any given zone...

So, yes - it looks like this was probably the result of a fix we put in for loot re-roll. There have been no stealth missions to get more crafting recipes out on the market...YET!! :onthego:

Does this affect Shadow Caves, I wonder? I hope so. (: I'm tired of only getting Void bows and Rift 2h's lol.

StompArtist
10-04-2012, 11:31 AM
Does this affect Shadow Caves, I wonder? I hope so. (: I'm tired of only getting Void bows and Rift 2h's lol.

People still farm shadow caves?

17628

Zapoke
10-04-2012, 11:33 AM
Does this affect Shadow Caves, I wonder? I hope so. (: I'm tired of only getting Void bows and Rift 2h's lol.

People still farm shadow caves?

17628

No, not really.. Lol. I pretty much solo most of the time. Until I convince a friend to come.

Techno Email
10-04-2012, 12:02 PM
The bug was that loot re-roll could not re-roll for items of certain rarities in certain dungeons. The fix makes re-rolling for a purple or pink possible in dungeons that were previously affected by this bug.

Luck gives you a chance to re-roll for better loot. It used to not work as advertised in a few random dungeons. Thiswas a bug, and we fixed it as soon as we realized it was a bug.

Kraze
10-04-2012, 12:28 PM
This just evens the field between the ones who spent time and the ones who didn't...more and more. Whatever.


Ummm...More recipes->more crafting->more armor->better players?

Im going to put these two together... Better players.. because more armor.. DF leathers were fairly easy to acquire, if you had the brains to do it. Pjs were easy enough to acquire.
Then back at the first quote, I guess it's a matter of opinion on whether or not that playing field should be evened. I personally think the players with more time in game should have something to show for it, as they do in every other aspect of the game.

Ok now we are at a crossroads here yich..... Based on this post players with more time should have an advantage in pvp yet more than once I've seen you complain about "endgame" players using founders an most often citing that brand new players will not be able to easily acquire the dread "superbowofinstantwin" starting to seem like you have conflicting opinions

Darkterror
10-04-2012, 01:21 PM
So you are saying that the "bug " that affected drop rates was present after i spent 800plat on fang for no dragon drop since it came out. And the "bug" at mystery mash was the same then because i spent more than 800plat on that one and i only got a drop after u FIXED IT. Thats a nice bug. And u didnt fix it untill TODAY?? All this time waste farming dragon. I spent 40m on a red dragon set. And u fix this just after i get it? Thats very not cool. your purposely bugged drop rates are gonna make me quit this game.
It has being the only down iv had on this game the only reason i would ever quit. its that i get rippe off by a dev again. Like many times before. Ima start spening no plat on game. I really dont like the way things are goin. Id like to see the people who i support (devs) support me back. I hate to critic you work. But it went too far. Im officially a no plat buyer since now on. Play on!

PD>>> Fix the notification center bug on ios for god sake. i have to keep switching my device position.

xcainnblecterx
10-04-2012, 01:28 PM
A quick fix for the economy, make all pinks drop so much for one week so prices drop hence people using plat for.gold again. Then raise em up lol

Ahrie
10-04-2012, 01:40 PM
I think they did it to make pvp more of a fair game with all the twinks out there a new person wanting to pvp has no chnace and most likely will never pvp again after about 3 tries with same end result a bunch of twinks one shoting them. If you ask me I say they should make each stash a char only use this would stop all the twinking and make pvp fun at low levels again I know I stopped pvping at low levels till I got to 58 where there was a better chance I wouldn't die right when I joined a team

Zapoke
10-04-2012, 01:44 PM
If you ask me I say they should make each stash a char only use this would stop all the twinking and make pvp fun at low levels again

If they did that I would quit. Period.

Chung Es Mi Heroe
10-04-2012, 03:10 PM
So you are saying that the "bug " that affected drop rates was present after i spent 800plat on fang for no dragon drop since it came out. And the "bug" at mystery mash was the same then because i spent more than 800plat on that one and i only got a drop after u FIXED IT. Thats a nice bug. And u didnt fix it untill TODAY?? All this time waste farming dragon. I spent 40m on a red dragon set. And u fix this just after i get it? Thats very not cool. your purposely bugged drop rates are gonna make me quit this game.
It has being the only down iv had on this game the only reason i would ever quit. its that i get rippe off by a dev again. Like many times before. Ima start spening no plat on game. I really dont like the way things are goin. Id like to see the people who i support (devs) support me back. I hate to critic you work. But it went too far. Im officially a no plat buyer since now on. Play on!

PD>>> Fix the notification center bug on ios for god sake. i have to keep switching my device position.

I TOTALLY AGREE DARK!!!! i have spent about 3000 plat between farming bash n nuri plat dungeons with sum decent drops but now with "bug" fixed n certain players saying they spen 60 plat n made 6m?? im def not buying or spendng any plat on these dungeons now...at least nuri drops before "bug" was fixed it took me like 20-30 runs before a glyph dropped to me..now it rains glyph to a point now that a 56 charmin or sm set is less than 7mil now....that "bug" fixed just totally lost a good plat buying customer

Snakespeare
10-04-2012, 03:15 PM
She said "in some random dungeons". There is no reason to extrapolate that it affects dragon armor drops.

LwMark
10-04-2012, 03:17 PM
So you are saying that the "bug " that affected drop rates was present after i spent 800plat on fang for no dragon drop since it came out. And the "bug" at mystery mash was the same then because i spent more than 800plat on that one and i only got a drop after u FIXED IT. Thats a nice bug. And u didnt fix it untill TODAY?? All this time waste farming dragon. I spent 40m on a red dragon set. And u fix this just after i get it? Thats very not cool. your purposely bugged drop rates are gonna make me quit this game.
It has being the only down iv had on this game the only reason i would ever quit. its that i get rippe off by a dev again. Like many times before. Ima start spening no plat on game. I really dont like the way things are goin. Id like to see the people who i support (devs) support me back. I hate to critic you work. But it went too far. Im officially a no plat buyer since now on. Play on!

PD>>> Fix the notification center bug on ios for god sake. i have to keep switching my device position.

I TOTALLY AGREE DARK!!!! i have spent about 3000 plat between farming bash n nuri plat dungeons with sum decent drops but now with "bug" fixed n certain players saying they spen 60 plat n made 6m?? im def not buying or spendng any plat on these dungeons now...at least nuri drops before "bug" was fixed it took me like 20-30 runs before a glyph dropped to me..now it rains glyph to a point now that a 56 charmin or sm set is less than 7mil now....that "bug" fixed just totally lost a good plat buying customer

Yep i for sure spent 60plat and made 5-6m atleast enough to buy a 56 sm and some change, honestly i think its crazy how easy it is, ive seen 30+ drops not even in no time ridiculousss how easy, an that recipe farming, i have like 20-30+ from not even finishin a 30min elexier

Darkterror
10-04-2012, 03:25 PM
I got a red dragon armor drop WHILE buying the helm after i had the armor already. So Its evident its not random at all. I have lost my whole cash more than 3 times JUST because of this. This its getting pretty hot so im out.

PD: No comment

LwMark
10-04-2012, 03:34 PM
I got a red dragon armor drop WHILE buying the helm after i had the armor already. So Its evident its not random at all. I have lost my whole cash more than 3 times JUST because of this. This its getting pretty hot so im out.

PD: No comment

Are u mead u got a red dragon drop?

CrimsonTider
10-04-2012, 04:15 PM
LOL @ raging over pixel gold. My time is much more valuable to me.

LADYHADASSA
10-04-2012, 10:36 PM
I have to agree i have spent thousands in plat farming in this game, my house as a whole has spent extreme money in this game, we farm because we make gold, in this house we have given millions away to players who start, when we run out of gold we farm it up again, i UNDERSTAND the re rolls not working and fixing the "bug" but to make gear that we have paid plat to gear up and farm for hours on end, (lets not forget the players who do not pve much but pvp who spend plat to farm for their gear" this sudden dropp rate of hard to get gear is insane! I farmed 30+ lvl 15 armours in under 1hour this is extreme! Destroying the economy and the fun of farming, also lowering the plat sales ( ummmm think this was not thought threw) because if i farm with a plat re roll get what i want i am done and can go back to pvp. The re-roll should allow for a re roll on the best gear but to get the best gear 100 0/0 of the time no fun in that. And no challange in the game.

Have people forgotten how hard the original pl players have worked before re rolls to get this gear? Somhow this balance is way off.

Kraze
10-05-2012, 01:03 AM
Wait hang on people are complaining about getting drops? It's just digital gold...these changes allow more players the chance to get top end gear. Sure hoarders will hoard its what you guys do grats! But for all the doom and gloom this is the end of the twink world black cloud that hung over the game is now raining pinks. And people are mad... Can't win for losing

LADYHADASSA
10-05-2012, 01:42 AM
Wait hang on people are complaining about getting drops? It's just digital gold...these changes allow more players the chance to get top end gear. Sure hoarders will hoard its what you guys do grats! But for all the doom and gloom this is the end of the twink world black cloud that hung over the game is now raining pinks. And people are mad... Can't win for losing
Not mad at getting pinks.. In fact if you read all written you will see that.... Pink drops are good... Raining pinks that have kept farmers farming for hours and giving the idea that if one works hard enough they will get the pink they want this is the challange....rain rare dropps in a sudden way after people spend countless hours farming for an item and for some countless real world money on plat = frusturation ... The virtual gold has more value when real life work = real life money has been spent to earn those items.... So instead of seeing complaints lets look at the real issue.. Rain rare pinks = lost value = lost time= lost REAL life $ spent on that extra CHANCE to get rare pink + that that chance was found out to be impossible in some maps = angry real worl money spending people who spend money for a chance they never got <-------( big issue)

People here have to understand some players have not spent just 50$ on plat in this game many originals have spent thousands of real world money. And i mean thousands do you realize how many x box systems and games that could amount to?

This is not just virtual money here peeps. So before you make the typical comments that people make to TRY to make themselves look good to the devs they are in hopes will see the post. Try to read what the root issue is here.

This is not wall street and peeps who spend real life money to attain rare items do not expect their market to crash on a constant basis. So what dark said in short was if pink rain on items people have farmed for from the time the game began until now, and there is no more challange and his own game money was just spent only to find no hope of being able to earn it back, then he is not going to bother to invest his real life money.

When the stock market crashed people lost everything because others put their hand in the economy to a high extent. If pink rain continues like it has this past week. The pl stock exchange has crashed..... No place in life can anyone mess with the economy life or game people get real upset because it is the base of all systems.

Kraze
10-05-2012, 02:36 AM
Wait hang on people are complaining about getting drops? It's just digital gold...these changes allow more players the chance to get top end gear. Sure hoarders will hoard its what you guys do grats! But for all the doom and gloom this is the end of the twink world black cloud that hung over the game is now raining pinks. And people are mad... Can't win for losing
Not mad at getting pinks.. In fact if you read all written you will see that.... Pink drops are good... Raining pinks that have kept farmers farming for hours and giving the idea that if one works hard enough they will get the pink they want this is the challange....rain rare dropps in a sudden way after people spend countless hours farming for an item and for some countless real world money on plat = frusturation ... The virtual gold has more value when real life work = real life money has been spent to earn those items.... So instead of seeing complaints lets look at the real issue.. Rain rare pinks = lost value = lost time= lost REAL life $ spent on that extra CHANCE to get rare pink + that that chance was found out to be impossible in some maps = angry real worl money spending people who spend money for a chance they never got <-------( big issue)

People here have to understand some players have not spent just 50$ on plat in this game many originals have spent thousands of real world money. And i mean thousands do you realize how many x box systems and games that could amount to?

This is not just virtual money here peeps. So before you make the typical comments that people make to TRY to make themselves look good to the devs they are in hopes will see the post. Try to read what the root issue is here.

This is not wall street and peeps who spend real life money to attain rare items do not expect their market to crash on a constant basis. So what dark said in short was if pink rain on items people have farmed for from the time the game began until now, and there is no more challange and his own game money was just spent only to find no hope of being able to earn it back, then he is not going to bother to invest his real life money.

When the stock market crashed people lost everything because others put their hand in the economy to a high extent. If pink rain continues like it has this past week. The pl stock exchange has crashed..... No place in life can anyone mess with the economy life or game people get real upset because it is the base of all systems.

First perhaps your a taking this just a tad too serious to even begin to compare PL to the housing crisis is like calling a crack in the cement is the next grand canyon

Second anyone that knows me knows I am not about to kiss up to anyone.

Third did anyone at anytime tell you or anyone that spent so much money on these items tell you that there would never be an adjustment to the drop rates? Does the history of PL begin to suggest that there are not times of higher and lower drops? What are the biggest issues a game like this faces? Player attrition seems like it would be a problem. Run out of things to do you get bored find something else to do right?

So how does sts keep players engaged? New content is nice but there is overhead....ahh pvp is a great time killer! Pull these newer players in get them hooked and BAM now they are buying thrashers to get to level cap. Except the lower levels that people actually pvp at are odd levels were gear is hard to find! New player joins and gets owned by "iamsuperpropvp" decides game is to hard and quits. There goes that revenue source forever.

In summation your post seems to imply IMO the types of posts we are seeing are upset because people have grown a sense of entitlement in this community.

However as one of those that made a decision long ago not to invest in elixirs like they were Netscape stock in 1992 I've never checked for the "nothing will ever change" warranty on them.

However just my 2 plat

Ogbuehi
10-05-2012, 05:00 AM
So is this update the reason re-rolls have stopped in black mountain. I've been using thrasher on about 15-20 runs and not one single re-roll. Not even a orange to a green.

Riccits
10-05-2012, 05:07 AM
So the game is now entirely purchasable with platinum, dragon vanities aside

now? it is so already since a while....

maneatingtree
10-05-2012, 05:23 AM
Nooooooooooooooo my 5 day rewards dont seem to give plat anymore >.< i got 1 plat from 11 chars where i used to get 50-61

Patricks
10-05-2012, 05:50 AM
Nooooooooooooooo my 5 day rewards dont seem to give plat anymore >.< i got 1 plat from 11 chars where i used to get 50-61

I noticed much less plat from rewards as well.

Energizeric
10-05-2012, 11:57 AM
There were certain dungeons where rerolls did not work such as nuri, so plat players had no better chance of getting those items than anyone else, unless they saved up their gold and bought them. Now with the change, the pinks don't drop any more often, but purples do, and when you have a luck elixir the purple gets rerolled into a pink. I did funhouse last night on a shamus, and got like 12 pinks in an hour, but no glyph -- all of them were the "crap" pinks, so glyph still somewhat hard to get although seems like a lot more people farming nowso obviously they are more common than before. I think the biggest problem with Nuri is not that the reroll works now but that they nerfed the dungeon and it's so easy that a 56 can solo it. Perhaps they need to change it back to being difficult like it used to be.

Zapoke
10-05-2012, 11:59 AM
Nooooooooooooooo my 5 day rewards dont seem to give plat anymore >.< i got 1 plat from 11 chars where i used to get 50-61
I got 96 plat... In 14 characters..

Techno Email
10-05-2012, 01:54 PM
So is this update the reason re-rolls have stopped in black mountain. I've been using thrasher on about 15-20 runs and not one single re-roll. Not even a orange to a green.

Incorrect. Re-rolls are not broken in Fire Forest.

Techno Email
10-05-2012, 01:55 PM
17676

Chopper
10-05-2012, 02:07 PM
17676

I'm more interested in the "You are no longer invulnerable" message LOL

Snakespeare
10-05-2012, 02:55 PM
I noticed much less plat from rewards as well.

Not me... I see the plat dropping just fine.

Yich
10-05-2012, 03:00 PM
I'm more interested in the "You are no longer invulnerable" message LOL

Type /invulnerable <name>

Patricks
10-05-2012, 04:16 PM
17676

I'm more interested in the "You are no longer invulnerable" message LOL

I think it's from Revenge. Not 100% sure tho.

Ogbuehi
10-05-2012, 04:54 PM
Incorrect. Re-rolls are not broken in Fire Forest.

They've stopped working for me. I would normally get them every 3-5 kills like clockwork when I grinded for the dragonet weapons. Now I get none. Which sucks, because now that the elixirs are cheaper, I wanted to grind for more pinks in black smoke mountain.

Techno Email
10-05-2012, 05:28 PM
I think it's from Revenge. Not 100% sure tho.

"Perks of being a devflower..." ;)

LwMark
10-05-2012, 05:31 PM
"Perks of being a devflower..." ;)

yo what were u doing all day in cs yesterday lol

Suentous PO
10-05-2012, 05:45 PM
Lulz, ppl running in balefort this morn asking "is Santa gone now?"

Techno Email
10-05-2012, 05:45 PM
They've stopped working for me. I would normally get them every 3-5 kills like clockwork when I grinded for the dragonet weapons. Now I get none. Which sucks, because now that the elixirs are cheaper, I wanted to grind for more pinks in black smoke mountain.

We do not re-roll on trash loot (grey), since it would only grant you a common (white) anyways. It's possible that you are only rolling trash, but not likely. It's more likely that you are using a loot re-roll elixir that grants you 30% chance to re-roll for better loot. If so, you would re-roll 3 out of every 10 times that you got loot, on average. And of course, runs average out the more you do them. :D

hemanbeast
10-05-2012, 06:02 PM
Because luck elixirs are fairly new and they want to make sure it works everywhere.

I don't think drop rates have increased without luck.

Also, it makes pvp more balanced since more ppl can afford the best pvp twink gear. You seem very concerned about pvp so you should be happy. However, you seem bothered by it.

Seems odd you are so concerned about unbalanced forgotten bows ruining twink pvp but bothered by the balancing effect toward twink pvp the new drop rates create.

Mainly because these twink armors were only buyable or farmable through pure sheer luck, and required at least some significant playing time to acquire.
Now, the ones with whom we no life twinkers have a problem with (The new ones with Forgotten bow and iron PJs) can really even up the field more and turn PvP into a real PLottery.

StompArtist
10-05-2012, 06:40 PM
We do not re-roll on trash loot (grey), since it would only grant you a common (white) anyways. It's possible that you are only rolling trash, but not likely. It's more likely that you are using a loot re-roll elixir that grants you 30% chance to re-roll for better loot. If so, you would re-roll 3 out of every 10 times that you got loot, on average. And of course, runs average out the more you do them. :D

Wait... re-rolling for a white still would make me feel lucky... :(

Mothwing
10-05-2012, 08:14 PM
This might've been answered already, but I'm not interested in the essays written previously.

What are recipes classified as? Like, do they reroll? And if they do, what do the reroll off of? I understand that they're green (which doesn't really make sense to me) but, do they reroll off purples? Or oranges?

Im referring to the FH recipes obviously.

WarTornBird
10-05-2012, 08:44 PM
This might've been answered already, but I'm not interested in the essays written previously.

What are recipes classified as? Like, do they reroll? And if they do, what do the reroll off of? I understand that they're green (which doesn't really make sense to me) but, do they reroll off purples? Or oranges?

Im referring to the FH recipes obviously.

Time it took to right this your essay coulda been read ;)
Now you have to put in extra effort :)
Love ya mothy

Mothwing
10-05-2012, 09:42 PM
Time it took to right this your essay coulda been read ;)
Now you have to put in extra effort :)
Love ya mothy

-.-

Energizeric
10-05-2012, 09:48 PM
yo what were u doing all day in cs yesterday lol

She was giving out coal (black) antennas of course!!

noperly22
10-07-2012, 05:00 PM
We do not re-roll on trash loot (grey), since it would only grant you a common (white) anyways. It's possible that you are only rolling trash, but not likely. It's more likely that you are using a loot re-roll elixir that grants you 30% chance to re-roll for better loot. If so, you would re-roll 3 out of every 10 times that you got loot, on average. And of course, runs average out the more you do them. :D
IS IT possible to reroll and get a dragon vanity now in vampire feast??