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rusjeka
08-17-2023, 02:25 PM
Why zodias machine aegis + arc armor +mythic set better than a full Kraken set???

rusjeka
08-17-2023, 02:27 PM
Dear developers, you are broken, this is a weapon. I ask you to check this.

rusjeka
08-17-2023, 02:29 PM
This set kill solo elite ekenta for one proc!

rusjeka
08-17-2023, 02:31 PM
The full Kraken set cannot do this. Then why is it needed?

Ali haziq
08-17-2023, 02:38 PM
It took me 5 months to do that single proc kill and I also can kill ekenta with krak sword too it depends on your build

Ali haziq
08-17-2023, 02:52 PM
Also zod is really hard to proc its too unstable if it was 100% proc chance I would have understood it doesn't proc if two player using same krak set enter map if someone already proc mythic weapon still it won't proc same thing with rouges bow these all delay or won't let zod proc so I consider it decent weapon its not that op. You can't do lb runs with it or timed maps cuz it miss procs a lot I already maxes it so I don't care if it gets nerffed.

bleyv
08-17-2023, 03:16 PM
Why zodias machine aegis + arc armor +mythic set better than a full Kraken set???

First you complained that no one invited you to pt, now that you can do something to help, do you want to be nerfed?

rusjeka
08-17-2023, 04:25 PM
First you complained that no one invited you to pt, now that you can do something to help, do you want to be nerfed?
I didn't complain about anything. I said that the war was not relevant.

rusjeka
08-17-2023, 04:27 PM
It took me 5 months to do that single proc kill and I also can kill ekenta with krak sword too it depends on your build
Bro u use full krak set + saber?

rusjeka
08-17-2023, 04:37 PM
It took me 5 months to do that single proc kill and I also can kill ekenta with krak sword too it depends on your build
A full set of Kraken cannot kill ekenty in one proc.
Bro me have krak set full 2.8k str im not can. Bro tell me your nickname.

Zfan
08-17-2023, 05:25 PM
A full set of Kraken cannot kill ekenty in one proc.
Bro me have krak set full 2.8k str im not can. Bro tell me your nickname.


It can. You just do not have the right build and gears. ;D

nemusoa
08-17-2023, 07:35 PM
Thats why you must leveling them to lvl41 not like kraken weapon.

Roguemaybe
08-17-2023, 08:33 PM
Bro what u complaining about?

I don't get it, the lvl41 aegis sold is under 100m right now. Most I've seen is 70-90m depends on awakes.

If what you said is true, just stick with the spirit aegis or sell your krak sword to buy one? Among the spirit weapon, it's literally the best one.



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abbrv
08-17-2023, 08:47 PM
nerf is coming once the dev see this … demn

Roguemaybe
08-17-2023, 09:26 PM
nerf is coming once the dev see this … demnNah, I doubt it, it's kinda an open secret that spirit aegis is the best one, due to aoe/high DMG. So talking about it now is kinda telling the Devs that the alrdy know.

Plus it's been like months since they touched this weaps, sooo unlikely.

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Zfan
08-17-2023, 09:45 PM
nerf is coming once the dev see this … demn

Devs said they were done with this weapon. If they decide to nerf it, then they are not valid with their words.

I am interested, though, if the new 'proc chance stat' thing means we will get a bonus proc chance buff. That would make the zod aegis the best weapon in the game (unless something better is released).

Switchback
08-18-2023, 08:11 AM
Kind of like Nep being used in the hardest dungeon, i do not think they have an answer.

Skeleton Mike
08-18-2023, 12:20 PM
Why would you want people to be tied up to a single weapon? that's so boring.
Having multiple choices is a good thing for the game in my opinion.

stevenrealms
08-19-2023, 09:48 PM
why zodias eating machine aegies have high damage proc and can damage multiple target.. the zodias eating machine sword very low damage proc and only 1 target. dev can u please add more damage on sword and add more targets in proc.

freebump
08-19-2023, 11:50 PM
eating machine aegis is broken... this is eating machine legend now? lol

pls check and fix!

KarTik1
08-19-2023, 11:54 PM
why zodias eating machine aegies have high damage proc and can damage multiple target.. the zodias eating machine sword very low damage proc and only 1 target. dev can u please add more damage on sword and add more targets in proc.

Sword procs faster and cd is low.
I have both atm 41 zoad aegis and kraken sword .
When i run elite sunken with sword and aegis or any other elite zodias map .
With sword its much faster then aegis
And proc is 100% .
While aegis does more damage but there are times it does not proc on time .
Like it procs after my kraken armor proc is over .
So aegis and sword are perfect as they are .


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Roguemaybe
08-20-2023, 05:11 AM
eating machine aegis is broken... this is eating machine legend now? lol

pls check and fix!Nah, it's perfectly fine as it is. The amount of DMG dealt is only after months of grinding to lvl41+ , just to be same price as krak weap.


Imagine grinding for months and months only to find it worse than your mythic that cost barely a few million. (Literally lvl41+ daggs, do not lvl them)










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freebump
08-20-2023, 05:43 AM
Nah, it's perfectly fine as it is. The amount of DMG dealt is only after months of grinding to lvl41+ , just to be same price as krak weap.


Imagine grinding for months and months only to find it worse than your mythic that cost barely a few million. (Literally lvl41+ daggs, do not lvl them)










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comparing that with spending lots of money from opening locked… sad for the plat spenders :( still pls fix this, arcane gears should still be the main weap for all classes!

maybe next time no one will spend real money to open locked crate to get arcane gears. they will just wait for this kind of bug/broken gears to happen and pretend its normal.

KarTik1
08-20-2023, 05:48 AM
comparing that with spending lots of money from opening locked… sad for the plat spenders :( still pls fix this, arcane gears should still be the main weap for all classes!

maybe next time no one will spend real money to open locked crate to get arcane gears. they will just wait for this kind of bug/broken gears to happen and pretend its normal.

Plats are for people who dont want to grind hard .
It takes like month or two to level up a aegis which is equal to real life money spending .
Krakens are expensive compare to zodias aegis
And they dont need any kind of farming to make them as op they are .
Even in gauntlet kraken weps are better then aegis .
You have to be a good tank overall like 2.9k-3.1 k str tank for zodias to deal enough damage for p1 rahab .
I have 2.6 k str and can only do like 30% damage which is similar with kraken sword .
And on top of that kraken sword is one charge attack proc .
While zoad sometimes proc after kraken armor proc over .
Its not better then kraken weps it’s just have its own feeling and fun gameplay.


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Ali haziq
08-20-2023, 06:01 AM
I am the only player who maxed zod aegis I did grind for 5 months non stop to reach max lvl and it's proc sucks damage is decent but you still need op gears to do damage many ppl know me cuz I play randoms to carry zaar set players in cata and rahab ign:sargentwrath.if you still think it's broken give me collateral and test my max lvl zod with your gears and we will see how broken it really is and how bad it's proc chance is and also I do same damage with mechanoubis sword so stop crying here get better build or gears it's not weapon it's your gears that are bad.

freebump
08-20-2023, 06:14 AM
I am the only player who maxed zod aegis I did grind for 5 months non stop to reach max lvl and it's proc sucks damage is decent but you still need op gears to do damage many ppl know me cuz I play randoms to carry zaar set players in cata and rahab ign:sargentwrath.if you still think it's broken give me collateral and test my max lvl zod with your gears and we will see how broken it really is and how bad it's proc chance is and also I do same damage with mechanoubis sword so stop crying here get better build or gears it's not weapon it's your gears that are bad.

instead, why not create a video and show how you one shot ekentra using eating machine! then say your a “Pro”
anyway, will just let the dev decide. good day!

Ali haziq
08-20-2023, 06:21 AM
Also mb I forget to mention that zod is not compatible with other weapons.if someone else procs krak weapon or mythic weapons zod won't proc or it's proc will get delayed:p

stevenrealms
08-20-2023, 07:12 AM
u see already and test the difference of zodias sword and aegies. zodias sword are very low damage for only one mob u cannot kill for 3-4 times proc even u use ulti. and aegies only one proc all mobs in range is killed.

Roguemaybe
08-20-2023, 08:00 AM
comparing that with spending lots of money from opening locked… sad for the plat spenders :( still pls fix this, arcane gears should still be the main weap for all classes!

maybe next time no one will spend real money to open locked crate to get arcane gears. they will just wait for this kind of bug/broken gears to happen and pretend its normal.-1 I mean it's just greedy plat spenders that's wasting money. I cash in game too.

Opening locks is always a gamble, but buying plat at 40% discount to buy elite awake is guaranteed gold at easily 200k++ each.


This is also on top of the fact that there is a hard pity (although sometimes mythic items might be in them)

If you are so concerned with the DPS, just go buy one, recently many have been on sale at 70/90m each, roughly the same price as krak weap.

Plus adjusting the aegis now, could cause a whole uproar, cause hundred of hours (at least) have been used to lvl up these items as the proc don't "match" other items.

The basis of your case seems to narrow, and kinda like a case of jealousy instead of logic and dps testing. Plus who's to say plat spenders didn't spend money to lvl up these weap (as seen with pearls and elixirs)?











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Zfan
08-20-2023, 03:51 PM
I do not understand why players are going mad over this weapon.

I am not going to lie, zodias aegis' damage is insane, but consistency-wise, this weapon is not the right choice. Furthermore, to get this weapon to work you need at least a level 41 Zodias Aegis (which takes a long time to level up and costs lots of gold), and the right gears and skills.

You are better off investing your gold in kraken gears since it yields better result. Albeit, damage burst is not on par with zodias aegis, but kraken gears are more consistent (which is what really matters if you are doing runs in dungeons/maps).

In my opinion, the weapon is balance the way it is.

snakeeyes
08-21-2023, 12:20 AM
Since dev maked all the class balanced, for hard lvling of this weapon but high dot aoe damage for aegis it deserve for warior to have this kind of weapon ulti+krak armor+ crit damage. They help a lot for us rogue and mage user please dont nerf this weapon.

Tekila
08-23-2023, 08:34 PM
I pointed this issue a lot of time, but devs keep saying « we are done with this weapon ».
The problem is not that spirit aegis is too powerfull it’s just as powerfull as it should be at high lvl as it is said in it’s description at release « it’s slightly better than mythic 81 at high level ».
The problem is that it’s damage and utility is even better than kraken sword’s damage and utility since it does more damage and hit more targets than the sword.
It’s proc is decent but not as consistent as kraken sword even if it procs well.
The thing is that we don’t want a nerf on it we want a kraken sword buff on any way possible (warrior damage or weapon damage or proc damage) so it’s better than the high spirit aegis since it should be the best weapon.
Right now the best weapon is the spirit 76 aegis at high lvl, it’s sad since only warriors got this problem. (Yes it is a problem because it’s not normal at all that the leveling / heritage gear for reroll is better than the end game gear)
A buff not a nerf again.


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Roguemaybe
08-24-2023, 05:37 AM
I pointed this issue a lot of time, but devs keep saying « we are done with this weapon ».
The problem is not that spirit aegis is too powerfull it’s just as powerfull as it should be at high lvl as it is said in it’s description at release « it’s slightly better than mythic 81 at high level ».
The problem is that it’s damage and utility is even better than kraken sword’s damage and utility since it does more damage and hit more targets than the sword.
It’s proc is decent but not as consistent as kraken sword even if it procs well.
The thing is that we don’t want a nerf on it we want a kraken sword buff on any way possible (warrior damage or weapon damage or proc damage) so it’s better than the high spirit aegis since it should be the best weapon.
Right now the best weapon is the spirit 76 aegis at high lvl, it’s sad since only warriors got this problem. (Yes it is a problem because it’s not normal at all that the leveling / heritage gear for reroll is better than the end game gear)
A buff not a nerf again.


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I mean the spirit bow matching the DMG of kraken bow at lvl41+ (although with Huge reliability issue)


I suspect that one of the mage weaps dps will be matching one of their Kraken.

Plus I honestly don't mind legacy/free to play weapons matching arcane weapons after a very long and hard grind. (And kinda expensive, if you want it quick)


After all the game is getting alot more p2w as seen with the slots. I hope more free to play/farm/grinding/spirit gears in the future.

They kinda feel like LB a little, as the end reward is so satisfying (for the bow atleast, not the daggs, we don't talk about the daggs)

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Tekila
08-24-2023, 06:43 AM
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I mean the spirit bow matching the DMG of kraken bow at lvl41+ (although with Huge reliability issue)


I suspect that one of the mage weaps dps will be matching one of their Kraken.

Plus I honestly don't mind legacy/free to play weapons matching arcane weapons after a very long and hard grind. (And kinda expensive, if you want it quick)


After all the game is getting alot more p2w as seen with the slots. I hope more free to play/farm/grinding/spirit gears in the future.

They kinda feel like LB a little, as the end reward is so satisfying (for the bow atleast, not the daggs, we don't talk about the daggs)

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I agree with you at a point.

Spirit gear should be usable/reliable/enjoyable. And it happens that that they are none of those 3 (vorlish lvl 81)

If the weapon just match the arc gear at very endgame, very end lvl it would be cool for F2P. Giving them the opportunity to farm things enjoy the game without the very best gear, like in every mmo giving the experience of grinding by playing not by buying. And still giving them the hope for the best arc gear.

But the case of the aegis is special because it outclass the arc sword damages by far at high lvl (not maxed). I don’t think that it is to powerfull, it is the sword that is too weak compaired to other weapons.


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Zfan
08-24-2023, 03:00 PM
I agree with you at a point.

Spirit gear should be usable/reliable/enjoyable. And it happens that that they are none of those 3 (vorlish lvl 81)

If the weapon just match the arc gear at very endgame, very end lvl it would be cool for F2P. Giving them the opportunity to farm things enjoy the game without the very best gear, like in every mmo giving the experience of grinding by playing not by buying. And still giving them the hope for the best arc gear.

But the case of the aegis is special because it outclass the arc sword damages by far at high lvl (not maxed). I don’t think that it is to powerfull, it is the sword that is too weak compaired to other weapons.


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I forgot vorlish (81) weapon even exist. I tried using that weapon for PVE and it sucked so bad.