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Noodleleg
10-13-2012, 01:25 PM
Level 18 PVP Bear Guide

Table of contents:
I. Introduction
II. Build
III. Gear
IV. Combo
V. Skills
VI. Class specifics
VII. Tips

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/Noodleleg/7974a72d0a5170b289eedbc3166f5214.jpg

I. Introduction
*Hey guys! Noodleleg here, playing as WhyRamen. This is my first "low level" bear so... I think I'm doing decently as a low level rookie!!! Oh, you level 17s... Cry moar huh? Sorry I couldn't make any guides recently... School >.>!!!


II. Build
*Oh friggin snap... Noodleleg's giving out a bear build? Yeah, that's right! Now, you print it out, laminate it, and frame it on all your walls!
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/Noodleleg/e8b573a1a06fc6e72e5794f39991fc1c.jpg

-About my build... I think it's a pretty epic build... But! You have to know your range veerrryyyy well....


III. Gear
*These are the setups you should have. And yes, forgotten is required if you want to succeed.
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/Noodleleg/d3d0d4f40f6520848bd1658a1eafc4f4.jpg

-Here's the gear I use with stats (helm and shield are from the L10 4 piece platinum pack from the platinum store):
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/Noodleleg/57e5f3b4b192cc02d8cc12456db8b706.jpg
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/Noodleleg/44a6c47144277260ea1221334f1c4ec1.jpg
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/Noodleleg/e9537e00445b066fa242553f4738c27c.jpg
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/Noodleleg/88c1183ad123a9661b0b3d45e37b93b9.jpg
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/Noodleleg/de94cf38e06b67f02a9c289c34fc6755.jpg
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/Noodleleg/a562f7b7c4fa9e75c812203cc72bb509.jpg
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/Noodleleg/3361193c5ce9fde6f700cef075c1a1b0.jpg

-Some people ask me if they should use expert... Here's the stat difference. You decide for yourself.
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/Noodleleg/5295490a689b5715fd948496e0a67a57.jpg


IV. Combo
*Combo is always:
1.) Rage
2.) Iron Blood
3.) Hellscream
4.) Stomp
5.) Super Mega Slash

-However, if you're kiting... Buff, use auto, charge at 8m, finish combo.


V. Skills
*In this pvp level, any ounce of damage and skill is important. In this build, the most important one, in my opinion, is hellscream. But let's just go through all of them...

1.) Rage: Increases damage by a a lot. Also gives you a much better chance to land a critical. As always, max max max. Start out all fights with Rage if you can.
2.) Iron Blood: In this specific build, it is not that important. But still, +8 armor will add up soon. I like to use Iron Blood late because its effect is gone very soon.
3.) Hellscream: This debuff is overpowered in my opinion. It does -30 damage and hit percent. Paired with stomp, -60 hit. So, out of 10 shots, your enemy theoretically will hit only 4. Now, think about stacking it even more with a forgotten bow... Op huh? Let's say your enemy does 60 damage constantly... Bears have about 80 hit at this level so, like 480 damage? If you use hellscream... 20 hit with 30 damage constantly... 60 damage vs 480... OP OP OP OP! However, this build fails if you do not know your range... Hellscream is 8m so, if you charge, it's 10m. REMEMBER THAT.
4.) Stomp: This is also a hit debuff. You might miss stomps because of worrying about hellscream. So, learn your range and have fast fingers!
5.) Does a decent amount of damage and sends enemy flying! Weeeeeeee!


VI. Class specifics
*Some setups are naturally weaker against your bear. Let's cover those weaknesses.

Mage
-Mages have to kite you to win. You can counter that kite by using an X-Bow. Kite at 13m and when you see the Mage panic by healing or using frostbite, run up, hellscream, stomp, sms.
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/Noodleleg/8b079b5cc098810c9d41ef37e4797ac7.jpg
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/Noodleleg/ef5d146edb86f207affdf881ab168267.jpg
-Just sayin'... Mages usually don't have buffs at this level...

Birds
-Pretty much all birds will use a forgotten bow. If you want to win, use one too.
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/Noodleleg/0b62badb7239a5fffdd7fe7eaf61226d.jpg
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/Noodleleg/2521c01ac1729fec1ec4e897d8fe681e.jpg
-If you see a bird root you, hellscream, stomp, and sms. Root is a sign that cruel blast is coming! Avoid that cruel blast!

Bears
-Haha! Most peeps you'll be fighting are bears... And in a bear vs bear fight, if you have hellscream and they don't... Hehe ^_^!
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/Noodleleg/cd3ae461ded5733e6139df12e43c9b72.jpg
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/Noodleleg/d948b421168f0886a847c85d91741166.jpg
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/Noodleleg/971a1efe9bde4ab4ee469373997a1fea.jpg
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/Noodleleg/31b77faf6c3e37de5529fc41abb6d617.jpg
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/Noodleleg/ad1526718879e725ec7ae44779a0242b.jpg
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/Noodleleg/d829668ddbb1603f7e0523ec5ecaa45f.jpg
-About the pictures above... The first one is Hellscream and Stomp's range. The second one is me doing the combo. The third one is what a stunned bear looks like. The fourth one is an Xbow vs Xbow fight... When a bear is using an Xbow, you should too. You'll get kited to death if you don't. The fifth one is 13m (xbows' range). The sixth one is 10m (talons' range).


VII. Tips
-Have a few friends in case you are getting rushed or teamed.
-Learn your range very well before using this build.
-You'll go up against a lot of L17 bears. At 8m, all they need to do is stomp. So, you need to know range better than them to be able to do 2 skills. Learn your range!



Thanks to all for the encouragement of making a low level twink bear! I'm really liking this pvp level and hope all enjoy it too! Also, thanks for reading ^_^!!!

~Noodleleg

Noodleleg
10-13-2012, 01:28 PM
If you find an error or would like to add something, please post or feel free to private message me!

Reunegade
10-13-2012, 01:41 PM
Nice guide Noodle! Oh and btw, when you fought Mush, I gave him a kite build. Looks like you can outkite it hehe

Fao
10-13-2012, 01:58 PM
Nice guide buddy:) I don't PvP, but I can tell it is very good:) keep it up!!!:D

Spectre
10-13-2012, 02:06 PM
Awesome guide bro!

Added it to list :)

Noodleleg
10-13-2012, 03:59 PM
Thanks all for the positive feedback :D

Spectre
10-13-2012, 04:01 PM
Noodle number one PvP guide maker:

Noodleleg - 11 guides
Birdmasta - 4 guides
Nick41324 - 3 guides
Apollo - 2 guides
Chickenrunnn - 2 guides
XghostzX - 2 guides
noobmigo - 2 guides
ninjaduck - 2 guides
Flacs - 2 guides
Paar - 1 guide
Zerious - 1 guide
Blitzkraig - 1 guide
Willwacku - 1 guide
BeardedBear - 1 guide
Sluntz - 1 guide
Apostel - 1 guide
prouzi - 1 guide
Srryyoulose - 1 guide
Kixxler - 1 guide

Noodleleg
10-13-2012, 04:44 PM
Lmao never knew! :D Thankee Flacs :)

Reunegade
10-13-2012, 06:11 PM
Chickenrunnn has made more than two guides Flacs

Zeus
10-13-2012, 06:16 PM
Noodle number one PvP guide maker:

Noodleleg - 11 guides
Birdmasta - 4 guides
Nick41324 - 3 guides
Apollo - 2 guides
Chickenrunnn - 2 guides
XghostzX - 2 guides
noobmigo - 2 guides
ninjaduck - 2 guides
Flacs - 2 guides
Paar - 1 guide
Zerious - 1 guide
Blitzkraig - 1 guide
Willwacku - 1 guide
BeardedBear - 1 guide
Sluntz - 1 guide
Apostel - 1 guide
prouzi - 1 guide
Srryyoulose - 1 guide
Kixxler - 1 guide

Made more than two if you look deep enough. :)

I only make guides once I know I have completely mastered it, otherwise I don't like giving people subpar PvP advice, as it just leads to them teaching others subpar PvP advice, which leads to less challenging players.

Entertaining
10-13-2012, 06:23 PM
Anyone can make short guides like this lol. Btw, 18 is for nubs that get owned at 17 ^^

Noodleleg
10-13-2012, 06:43 PM
Anyone can make short guides like this lol. Btw, 18 is for nubs that get owned at 17 ^^

This is probably my shortest guide by the way -_-...

razerfingers
10-13-2012, 07:30 PM
Anyone can make short guides like this lol. Btw, 18 is for nubs that get owned at 17 ^^

So ill make a 19^^

Sent using blood on a bathroom wall.

Yich
10-13-2012, 08:02 PM
I think 18s are a bit useless, as they need hs and that can be easily kited with the xbow..

Noodleleg
10-13-2012, 08:24 PM
I think 18s are a bit useless, as they need hs and that can be easily kited with the xbow..

You kite and I tree hug. Gf.

Zeus
10-13-2012, 09:04 PM
You kite and I tree hug. Gf.

Nah, I know your temper, I can lure you out. ;)

Yich
10-13-2012, 09:27 PM
You kite and I tree hug. Gf.

Tree hugging only works for so long. For FFAs, me and entertaining would beat any pair of 18s i know using xbows. That's not me trying to sound pro, that's just the power of 13 range dominating 8 range. Tree hugging doesnt work in 2v1s, 2v2s, 3v1s, 3v2s or 3v3s. Basically, if I have a teammate to go around the tree, your 8m range doesnt do poop. Just my personal experience fighting 18 hs bears.

Noodleleg
10-13-2012, 09:29 PM
Nah, I know your temper, I can lure you out. ;)

You know me too well ^_^! I <3 yew Partn


Tree hugging only works for so long. For FFAs, me and entertaining would beat any pair of 18s i know using xbows. That's not me trying to sound pro, that's just the power of 13 range dominating 8 range. Tree hugging doesnt work in 2v1s, 2v2s, 3v1s, 3v2s or 3v3s. Basically, if I have a teammate to go around the tree, your 8m range doesnt do poop. Just my personal experience fighting 18 hs bears.

But I do 1v1s D:!!! But yes, I get your point :)!

Yich
10-14-2012, 10:13 PM
You know me too well ^_^! I <3 yew Partn



But I do 1v1s D:!!! But yes, I get your point :)!

Coolio. 18 bears are definitely a big difference from 17s. They're all black magic to me...

gundamsone
10-14-2012, 10:53 PM
I'm known for killing 18-21 bears who think HS = win

Noodleleg
10-15-2012, 06:13 AM
I'm known for killing 18-21 bears who think HS = win

Hi God.

Noobilicious
10-16-2012, 05:38 PM
Nice guide! But 18 isn't that good because it's super easy to kite hs, I've killed a 22 with my 15 by kiting.

Entertaining
10-16-2012, 05:42 PM
Nice guide! But 18 isn't that good because it's super easy to kite hs, I've killed a 22 with my 15 by kiting.

Hello Xorejtz ^^

Noobilicious
10-16-2012, 06:31 PM
Hello Xorejtz ^^

What?

Yich
10-16-2012, 07:28 PM
What?

He said "Hello Xorejtz".

Entertaining
10-16-2012, 07:51 PM
Noobilicious = Xorejtz

Noodleleg
10-16-2012, 07:53 PM
Noobilicious = Xorejtz

Really o_O?

Noobilicious
10-16-2012, 08:10 PM
I'm not... Ent just thinks so cuz I'm so pro like xore

Yich
10-16-2012, 08:26 PM
I'm not... Ent just thinks so cuz I'm so pro like xore

Xore's not that skilled... He had a lot of kills, some cool vanities (which you also have) and quit right around the time u started playing.

Noodleleg
10-16-2012, 08:51 PM
Xore's not that skilled... He had a lot of kills, some cool vanities (which you also have) and quit right around the time u started playing.

I still see him around :P...

Entertaining
10-17-2012, 05:30 PM
Noobilicious is for sure xor.

hemanbeast
10-17-2012, 05:34 PM
Noobilicious is for sure xor.

I don't think so...
He just suddenly popped in one day when I was on my 12...like two months ago...when I still had "redneck rage".
Tried to get him to join because he actually beat me once (ya i was a pretty good 12 if i say so myself ;)) and then i checked out his kills around 9k. Don't think he's xore...don't think it's a possibility to get 22K pvp kills (over 2 characters of xore that i know, and then adding it to noobi's kill count when he popped in suddenly), in the time span that xore has been twinking, but that is just from my perspective...lol...you could say I kill slow.

hotpimp
10-22-2012, 06:04 PM
i remember u

Spyce
12-06-2012, 08:22 PM
I saw this 18 behr and thought it was you.
Me: "Hi Noodle"
Lilililililil: Who noodle?

Rot
12-06-2012, 09:05 PM
Ai liek yior dregen, ken yew gif et tu mi plox.

airslash
12-06-2012, 11:53 PM
Good thread "D

Caiahar
09-23-2013, 10:55 PM
A good guide is revived!
Does this build still work?

Samopwn
09-24-2013, 12:39 PM
@shadow
I think it does , people still use talons /and xbows some have still kepts fbows ,and fbows still stronger than most weapons this level even with nerf .

Caiahar
09-24-2013, 12:43 PM
@shadow
I think it does , people still use talons /and xbows some have still kepts fbows ,and fbows still stronger than most weapons this level even with nerf .

I made this bear yesterday, and I loved it, especially when I kite ppl to death :D
But...there's that problem...20 rhinos mostly join 15-18 games..and farm me..as well as other 20s.


All for one, and one for all.

Samopwn
09-24-2013, 12:54 PM
@ Shadow I had same problem a while back on this with my 18 bear . Now I have a 20rhino incase of rushers or for if I'm bord and nothing else to do.

Caiahar
09-24-2013, 01:55 PM
@ Shadow I had same problem a while back on this with my 18 bear . Now I have a 20rhino incase of rushers or for if I'm bord and nothing else to do.

I bought a forgotten bow, I know its nerfed.
I dont use it regularly because I usually kite when I fight with auto bow, but against 20 rhinos, I cant kite them easily. With my talon and auto bow, they do almost no damage too the rhinos high armor, so with forgotten bow, I deal a bit more dmg.
Also, since rhinos hit buff gives about 18 hit or some thing (I forgot) if I stack up hellscream, plus the forgotten proc, their hit% goes waaaay down, so its useful.

Samopwn
09-24-2013, 02:01 PM
I bought a forgotten bow, I know its nerfed.
I dont use it regularly because I usually kite when I fight with auto bow, but against 20 rhinos, I cant kite them easily. With my talon and auto bow, they do almost no damage too the rhinos high armor, so with forgotten bow, I deal a bit more dmg.
Also, since rhinos hit buff gives about 18 hit or some thing (I forgot) if I stack up hellscream, plus the forgotten proc, their hit% goes waaaay down, so its useful.

Nice how much was the forgotten bow if I may ask also I sometimes when I have a chance switch gear from talon to xbow or fbow depending if I need to or visa versa but rarely

Caiahar
09-24-2013, 02:21 PM
^I rarely use fb, only when I really need (higher lvl farming, teamers, etc.) I think my fb was like 150k, but I saw a pink 18 one for 200k+.

Samopwn
09-24-2013, 02:39 PM
Mainly now days what fbow is for defending off higher level people who like to be bullies and try and beat you up

Izt
11-14-2013, 08:25 PM
Hey! I have the exact same build as yours! O.o XD

Caiahar
11-16-2013, 11:06 AM
Hey! I have the exact same build as yours! O.o XD

Now to fend off annoying 20s.


All for one, and one for all.

aav5224
11-16-2013, 11:39 PM
6 rage 6 hell scream 5 stomp all the way

Caiahar
11-17-2013, 12:19 PM
6 rage 6 hell scream 5 stomp all the way
5 stomp is useless. 3 is enough for 8m. You could put rest in SMS, or 1 sms and 1 IB, like noodle said.

aav5224
11-17-2013, 12:41 PM
5 stomp is useless. 3 is enough for 8m. You could put rest in SMS, or 1 sms and 1 IB, like noodle said.

nty

RushalotPL
02-12-2017, 07:19 PM
Hey, that's pretty good!