Why items becomes more expensive, and stats increase so much?

[Adf]

I see everyone had 3-3.5k int, only those who rich. They loot everything in catacombs, in labirynth event, and others they don t have a chance to make one mil. Developers said the drop rate is based on your LUCK, but that is totally wrong. Better i would say is based on your stats. Did you ever saw a random player put in auction a bracelet? Like a zaarus player? No i see the most commons players who play the game every day. Why would bracelet gives you 15% primary stats? Soon we gonna see in game players with 100k damage. The new map, and new weapons would be better than the current ones? So that would be more damage, stats? We could barely get items that don t increase our stats so much, making impossible for others even get close to the top players in game.
About the prices, bracelets like many other things in this game are way overpriced. Okay those with high stats let s just say is fine to ask a price of 100m max, but 300-400m is too much. Yeah we got the price drop of kraken, but we got it right when new weapons will come.
Awakening is a bad thing just because many get high stats and don t use too much gold for it. I think awakening should be more "gold spending" for rich players. Like you should spent few hundreds of millions to get 7% stats on items, not only 50-60 elite awakenings.
Gold farming is a bad thing too. Many don t have a place to farm, and if they do they don t get more than 20-30k per run. I think those who run lower maps, should increase the price of craftable materials by 1000%, and don t make that eazy for those who run for aps. And we need make players more dependable by lower maps. Like they should add elixirs that be craftable with materials from lower map, and very useful in new map.
Soon, by making game based on stats few players will gonna play it. Let s hope the new weapons won t be stats based, and his proc won t increase damage so much.

[xbell]

So this guy again, always have request and problem every week, you probably playing this game for just a few months or playing just few hours in a day. Those people you see having no life and they spend almost of their day to play this game. Don't expect that you will catch up to them when you just playing this game 1-2hrs.
People selling bracelet in auction either they opened locked chest or have 1m points in labyrinth or maybe they are just a lucky(it is not based on stats lmao).
You are just either jealous what they have(they deserve it since they work hard and put time for it) or you are just lazy and want everything easy.
You guys always shouting for ZAARUS PLAYER. WTF that gear is 2 years old, it is for zodias normal campaign maps and that gear is really cheap.

[Adf]

So this guy again, always have request and problem every week, you probably playing this game for just a few months or playing just few hours in a day. Those people you see having no life and they spend almost of their day to play this game. Don't expect that you will catch up to them when you just playing this game 1-2hrs.
People selling bracelet in auction either they opened locked chest or have 1m points in labyrinth or maybe they are just a lucky(it is not based on stats lmao).
You are just either jealous what they have(they deserve it since they work hard and put time for it) or you are just lazy and want everything easy.
You guys always shouting for ZAARUS PLAYER. WTF that gear is 2 years old, it is for zodias normal campaign maps and that gear is really cheap.

To be honest i don t think bracelet would drop if you do 300 pulls. So pretty sure they looted in catacombs/lab. Adding an item to the game wich gives you 15% stats is a bad thing, i see in trade market bracelet 9.5% int. You know what that means? 24.5% int so that's absurd. 10% int on helm, 12% ring, omg. I wonder what stats are those who are on lb in orrick. Every items with 15% all. You say they play the game every day. How much they could farm, until they get borred? Let s just say 10m a day, in a year like 3.6b. If the gear cost over 1.5b, the awakening how much it is?

[Immortal_Blood]

In my opinion, stuff isn't expensive; just farming is boring bro..

[Adf]

In my opinion, stuff isn't expensive; just farming is boring bro..

Even if you farm, i don t think you can compare with those who loot items in maps, by doing nothing, because drop rate based on their stats. Catacombs and lab was two of them pretty sure. I don t see a common player, to sell a bracelet but i see most lb players selling many. So DROP RATE ISN T RANDOM, thats for sure 1000000000% true.

[xbell]

To be honest i don t think bracelet would drop if you do 300 pulls. So pretty sure they looted in catacombs/lab. Adding an item to the game wich gives you 15% stats is a bad thing, i see in trade market bracelet 9.5% int. You know what that means? 24.5% int so that's absurd. 10% int on helm, 12% ring, omg. I wonder what stats are those who are on lb in orrick. Every items with 15% all. You say they play the game every day. How much they could farm, until they get borred? Let s just say 10m a day, in a year like 3.6b. If the gear cost over 1.5b, the awakening how much it is?You have no idea on what you are talking about. You tried opening locked chest or some of your friend tried to opened locked chest? Of course you have not because you are wrong. I have guildmates and friends did opened locked chest and they looted bracelet even got in their hc. It is not all looted in catacombs.
You are just an idiot, having a high stats doesn't have a high chance to loot a bracelet. The thing is having more points and runs is the one having a more chance to get bracelet.
And what is your problem with bracelet being op? How it is a bad thing? When it helps you to deal more damage and to run more smoothly. You just can't afford it that's why you are just complaining.

They are not farming 10m only
They are farming 30-70m per 24hrs of rahab depends when they are motivated to farm.
You have no idea how much they can make. You are probably just farming 2-4m per day or even lower.

[xbell]

Even if you farm, i don t think you can compare with those who loot items in maps, by doing nothing, because drop rate based on their stats. Catacombs and lab was two of them pretty sure. I don t see a common player, to sell a bracelet but i see most lb players selling many. So DROP RATE ISN T RANDOM, thats for sure 1000000000% true.Wtf, it is not based on their stats.
You are just an idiot, look at danrog, he has the most high stats in game and he only managed to looted 1 brace.
It is based on how many runs did you make and how lucky you are.

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[Adf]

Wtf, it is not based on their stats.
You are just an idiot, look at danrog, he has the most high stats in game and he only managed to looted 1 brace.
It is based on how many runs did you make and how lucky you are.

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Nah you are out of this world. Danrog looted one, why zaarus player didn t looted one, since the drop is random? Have you ever seen a zaarus player putting a bracelet to sell in auction? Plus we are 90% of those, and 10% are kraken with high stats. Developers said the drop is RANDOM. You know what that means, it means that those 90% of zaarus players would loot more bracelets that the 10% kraken players. But in reality isn t like this.

[Encryptions]

I have krak set and 3.2k dex yet I didn't loot an arc brace. Didn't loot anything tbh.
I don't think I have looted anything worth high value running maps over the years of playing.

[xbell]

Nah you are out of this world. Danrog looted one, why zaarus player didn t looted one, since the drop is random? Have you ever seen a zaarus player putting a bracelet to sell in auction? Plus we are 90% of those, and 10% are kraken with high stats. Developers said the drop is RANDOM. You know what that means, it means that those 90% of zaarus players would loot more bracelets that the 10% kraken players. But in reality isn t like this.Hahahahaha you are an idiot.
Why people with zaarus set didn't looted one? Because they are not running or they only did few runs.
How many times do i need to say it is based on how many runs did you make. Not all of that zaarus user you are talking about played a lot in catacombs or labyrinth. They probably did only 5-24k points for plat tier and the highest op ppl playing for lb have 500k-1m points so they have more chance to loot bracd.

If you have 1% chance of looting a bracelet you probably need 100 runs (1% = 1 run so 100runs = 100%) to have a chance to loot a bracelet. But I don't really know how looting chances sts have, because i think it is not guaranteed you will loot bracelet after 100runs if the chance to loot it is 1% and it is completly how lucky you are.
If you can't process this just give up or I just give up because you will not get it how many times i tried.


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[Adf]

Hahahahaha you are an idiot.
Why people with zaarus set didn't looted one? Because they are not running or they only did few runs.
How many times do i need to say it is based on how many runs did you make. Not all of that zaarus user you are talking about played a lot in catacombs or labyrinth. They probably did only 5-24k points for plat tier and the highest op ppl playing for lb have 500k-1m points so they have more chance to loot bracd.

If you have 1% chance of looting a bracelet you probably need 100 runs (1% = 1 run so 100runs = 100%) to have a chance to loot a bracelet. But I don't really know how looting chances sts have, because i think it is not guaranteed you will loot bracelet after 100runs if the chance to loot it is 1% and it is completly how lucky you are.
If you can't process this just give up or I just give up because you will not get it how many times i tried.


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Just read again what did you just post. Drop rate is based on how many runs you do? Hahahahah. Even if is based on how many runs you did, you don t get bracelet. 90% of zaarus players pretty sure did way to many runs, than kraken players, expecially in lab. We are the most in games, you just few hundreds, we few thousands. So how could you loot every single bracelet in the game, idiot, if is based on how many runs you do?

[Encryptions]

If you believe that wearing op gear for stats/procs increases your drop rate please do evaluate your reasoning to believe that. I have extremely op gear and have yet to loot anything good over the years of me playing. Rather it be an event or set map zone in the game.

[xbell]

You didn't get it,
Example I have 1m points
And 10 zaarus player have 100k points
10 x 100k points = 1m points
I think, the chances on this game works is the more you run on 1 individual the chances to loot it is increasing. So it based on how many runs did you make on just one individual.
And how are you sure that not a single zaarus player(even almost in random 2 out of 4player have kraken) didn't looted bracelet? maybe they are just selling it town not in auction because they dont have money to put it.
Or the people you see selling bracelet is original have it and not looted.
Where did you get the stats of 90% zaarus user and only 10% kraken. Did you do a survey or ask sts how many people have kraken in al? Just seeing is not valid reason to take because I saw too that almost of the random have kraken. I did 90% of my runs random.

[Adf]

If you believe that wearing op gear for stats/procs increases your drop rate please do evaluate your reasoning to believe that. I have extremely op gear and have yet to loot anything good over the years of me playing. Rather it be an event or set map zone in the game.

Just look at the market. Who sell bracelet? Those who are old/play the game every day. So that means drop isn t random. If the drop would be random we would see more zaarus/ newbies selling it. Locked crates don t has a 100% chance to drop bracelet. Okay maybe you are one who didn t loot anything in past years, but in general, those who are old/high stats get the good loot from events and have a high chance to get it, since market can confirm it.

[Encryptions]

Or... those people can afford to spend 10mil+ on auction fees as the poor players who loot the bracelets prefer to sell them in towns to avoid the auc tax.

[xbell]

Yes locked chest don't have 100% to get a bracelet.
Have you ever apply that to labyrinth? It doesn't have 100% chance.
You have more chance to loot bracelet in locked chest than looting it labyrinth. Labyrinth have huge pool of items to loot.

[Adf]

You didn't get it,
Example I have 1m points
And 10 zaarus player have 100k points
10 x 100k points = 1m points
I think, the chances on this game works is the more you run on 1 individual the chances to loot it is increasing. So it based on how many runs did you make on just one individual.
And how are you sure that not a single zaarus player(even almost in random 2 out of 4player have kraken) didn't looted bracelet? maybe they are just selling it town not in auction because they dont have money to put it.
Or the people you see selling bracelet is original have it and not looted.
Where did you get the stats of 90% zaarus user and only 10% kraken. Did you do a survey or ask sts how many people have kraken in al? Just seeing is not valid reason to take because I saw too that almost of the random have kraken. I did 90% of my runs random.

Okay, i did 700k points in lab. Is like 7 zaarus players, okay. I was in top 100, in lb. So tell me how my chances to loot has increasead, since i did same run of lab? Like you do a run they add 0,01% luck? Or what they add, or 0,01% chance to loot it? I didn t have kraken, only a ms and low stats gear. Plus those 90% zaarus players, don t means that they wear zaarus set, it means they are low gear ( here we can include even kraken players who has parts of op gears)

[xbell]

Okay, i did 700k points in lab. Is like 7 zaarus players, okay. I was in top 100, in lb. So tell me how my chances to loot has increasead, since i did same run of lab? Like you do a run they add 0,01% luck? Or what they add, or 0,01% chance to loot it? I didn t have kraken, only a ms and low stats gear. Plus those 90% zaarus players, don t means that they wear zaarus set, it means they are low gear ( here we can include even kraken players who has parts of op gears)I already explained it
If the chance is 0.01% you need to run 10,000 times so you have chance to get it. 0.01%x10000=100%
You have 700k points. The chances is 0.01%. Even let say 200 points per run 200 x 10000 = 2m so you need to get 1.3m points/6.5k runs more to have a 100% chance to get it.

[Adf]

I already explained it
If the chance is 0.01% you need to run 10,000 times so you have chance to get it. 0.01%x10000=100%
You have 700k points. The chances is 0.01%. Even let say 200 points per run 200 x 10000 = 2m so you need to get 1.3m points/6.5k runs points to have a 100% chance to get it.

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So, than, why others loot it without doing 2m points? You see is based on your gear and damage you do to boss in short time

[xbell]

So, than, why others loot it without doing 2m points? You see is based on your gear and damage you do to boss in short timeBruh you are so dumb. You know how % chance work?
So I'm gonna explain it to you.
Im just saying you need to run that many to have 100% chance to loot arcane, and not you will only loot it when you have 2m points.
So let say you have 700k points it is 3.5k runs. 3500x0.01% = 35% chance to loot arcane. But in the arcane it is also have % chance too to get a brace so let say 20% to get the bracelet 20%x5=100%. So 5x6500= 32k runs.
This is only example if the chance of looting an arcane is 0.01% and getting a bracelet in arcane is 20%.

Another example
1% chance to loot arcane, 1% chance to loot brace.
So to loot arcane you need 100 runs, but in that arcane you only have 1% chance to get bracelet. So you need to loot 100 arcanes to get the bracelet. So 100x100 = 10000run you need.

I can't believe i did this math for you.
*Please someone correct me if im wrong in my math.

People who got it early is lucky even the % chance is low.

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[Adf]

Bruh you are so dumb. You know how % chance work?
So I'm gonna explain it to you.
Im just saying you need to run that many to have 100% chance to loot arcane, and not you will only loot it when you have 2m points.
So let say you have 700k points it is 3.5k runs. 3500x0.01% = 35% chance to loot arcane. But in the arcane it is also have % chance too to get a brace so let say 20% to get the bracelet 20%x5=100%. So 5x6500= 32k runs.
This is only example if the chance of looting an arcane is 0.01% and getting a bracelet in arcane is 20%.

Another example
1% chance to loot arcane, 1% chance to loot brace.
So to loot arcane you need 100 runs, but in that arcane you only have 1% chance to get bracelet. So you need to loot 100 arcanes to get the bracelet. So 100x100 = 10000run you need.

I can't believe i did this math for you.
*Please someone correct me if im wrong in my math.

People who got it early is lucky even the % chance is low.

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So now after i did 3.5k runs, i have 35% chance to loot arcane? Like if i do 100 more runs i could get 3.5 arcane? This is totally wrong.

[QuaseT]

Bruh you are so dumb. You know how % chance work?
So I'm gonna explain it to you.
Im just saying you need to run that many to have 100% chance to loot arcane, and not you will only loot it when you have 2m points.
So let say you have 700k points it is 3.5k runs. 3500x0.01% = 35% chance to loot arcane. But in the arcane it is also have % chance too to get a brace so let say 20% to get the bracelet 20%x5=100%. So 5x6500= 32k runs.
This is only example if the chance of looting an arcane is 0.01% and getting a bracelet in arcane is 20%.

Another example
1% chance to loot arcane, 1% chance to loot brace.
So to loot arcane you need 100 runs, but in that arcane you only have 1% chance to get bracelet. So you need to loot 100 arcanes to get the bracelet. So 100x100 = 10000run you need.

I can't believe i did this math for you.
*Please someone correct me if im wrong in my math.

People who got it early is lucky even the % chance is low.

Sent from my V2134 using TapatalkThat would be correct if probability calculation outcome was linear here. It isn't in this case and if you want to calculate something like this it's a lot more complicated. Can check bernoulli-event for the case you have the odds given by a dev and hypothesis testing in statistics if you have collected info about runs/drops yourself.

[Encryptions]

Say 1 in 1000 chance = 0.001%. If an item has a 0.001% chance to drop it means in 1k runs there is a possible run where you could loot the bracelet. Not a 100% guaranteed chance, you could do 2k runs and still not loot a bracelet even if the rate is 1 in 1k.
Drop rate doesn't change based on the amount of runs you do, gears you wear, map completion speed, etc. Nothing changes the rate to drop.
Its just rng. You either loot it or you don't.

[djerida2015]

I wear full kraken set but I didn't loot any arc in labyrinth i had more than 300k points , i think ur mistaken it's not related to stats

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[Cliva]

Racked up almost 800k pts in labyrinth and saw not one arc brace drop for me or my party. However, I've come across a few in town who weren't even plat tier(24k pts) that has looted a bracelet.
It does not depend on how strong your gears are, it's all in the rng. Idk where and how you even got the idea that higher stats means better chances of looting things lol. So absurd.

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[Adf]

Racked up almost 800k pts in labyrinth and saw not one arc brace drop for me or my party. However, I've come across a few in town who weren't even plat tier(24k pts) that has looted a bracelet.
It does not depend on how strong your gears are, it's all in the rng. Idk where and how you even got the idea that higher stats means better chances of looting things lol. So absurd.

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Just stay in towns, look forums who sell bracelet. Have you ever seen a new player, or someone who don t play this game all day long selling it. Ok, you didn t saw in your party, but in my party we was 3 low gear players, and the other one got bracelet, and he was old player. So don t tell me that a newbie loot bracelet, and don't know what it is. Hard to find something like this in Arcane legends.

[Cliva]

Just stay in towns, look forums who sell bracelet. Have you ever seen a new player, or someone who don t play this game all day long selling it. Ok, you didn t saw in your party, but in my party we was 3 low gear players, and the other one got bracelet, and he was old player. So don t tell me that a newbie loot bracelet, and don't know what it is. Hard to find something like this in Arcane legends.

As I said, it all depends on the rng. Regardless if you run a thousand times and the other loot it on his first few runs, it all depends on rng. Not gear stats, not on how strong you are, not on how fast you clear maps but all on RNG.

If a player that doesn't play all day suddenly loot one, then good for him. But if a player that runs 8-10hours non-stop loots one it suddenly becomes an issue of how strong their gears are?

It does not and will always won't be depending on how strong you are. It is all RNG.

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[KarTik1]

To be honest i don t think bracelet would drop if you do 300 pulls. So pretty sure they looted in catacombs/lab. Adding an item to the game wich gives you 15% stats is a bad thing, i see in trade market bracelet 9.5% int. You know what that means? 24.5% int so that's absurd. 10% int on helm, 12% ring, omg. I wonder what stats are those who are on lb in orrick. Every items with 15% all. You say they play the game every day. How much they could farm, until they get borred? Let s just say 10m a day, in a year like 3.6b. If the gear cost over 1.5b, the awakening how much it is?

Ok
Let me clear one thing to you bro
I looted two bracelets
One from cata
Another from labyrinth .
I was a returning player when cata started
That two after two years.
I leveled as soon as i know there are new arcanes droping in this cata map .
And when cata starts i was level 81 needed 5 k points to start map so k grind and opened some red eggs .
Yes i had gold like 10m on me that time.
I also had my old gl set and speed set
And my 76 arcane gears which are worse then level 81 mythics in many way .
I sold all of them and was able to afford a zodias aegis level 31 .
And a decent 4% each zaar set total str was like 2.1 -2.2k .
I grind cata with mythic gears and looted my first bracelet only using mythics .
I sold that and bought kraken armor and farmed cata for like 300-400k points .
And i almost had full kraken gears for my tank .
Except ring and belt including sword and shield .
And rouge helm armor belt ring .
And in laby i looted another bracelet in my 7-10th run .
M i lucky?
Or sts loves me ?
I am same as every single other player
Many players have looted good items in front of me in past i did not get anything that time .
Now i am a 3k str tank i use arcane bracelet my self but i farmed like 4-5 hrs a day .
And i am playing since level cap was 31.
Thats like a 9-10 years of journey .
So be patience and farm hard take a break if you need just font brag about it cause i did the same in my past and i got nothing out of it except frustration.
Good luck to your journey ahead .
Ty :) .


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[KarTik1]

Nah you are out of this world. Danrog looted one, why zaarus player didn t looted one, since the drop is random? Have you ever seen a zaarus player putting a bracelet to sell in auction? Plus we are 90% of those, and 10% are kraken with high stats. Developers said the drop is RANDOM. You know what that means, it means that those 90% of zaarus players would loot more bracelets that the 10% kraken players. But in reality isn t like this.

And about new and zaar players putting bracelets in auc and looting it .
First
Kraken players were doing cata and laby in like 1/5-1/8 thof the time of zaar players .
And they can farm e raha and gauntlet much better so they had tons of fatoms to farm keys from beginning.
Drop rates were good in first month then they nerfed it for sure i felt it my self cause in my party everyone was looting one arcane in 100 runs but a random player join us and looted a bracelet in his first cata run of the day .
Second
Zaar players can not afford 12-15m of auc fee to put a arcane bracelet in auc for 280-350m .
So you will never see a zaar player putting something so expensive in auc .


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[OdenTheJust]

The drop chance for someone with krak gear is the same as someone wearing nothing at all. The difference is that the gear enables players to do more damage and clear faster so that they can do more runs than someone without gear. In a perfect world someone who does more runs than someone else has a better chance to loot something better but its a roll of the dice. Case and point i have krak gear and farmed along in event only 200k points but didn't get any decent drop to even pay for the cost of elixirs i used. My brother who had substantially worse gear looted black bear hooks 3rd run and krak gear as well before he even hit plat tier. Its a roll of the dice every time but obviously this "Die" has alot more sides than just six. Even people who spend tons of money on plat to open crates could have terrible luck and get nothing of value. You are just having bad luck and complaining in the forum instead of increasing your odds by grinding the game is hurting you.

[Ploid]

Just stay in towns, look forums who sell bracelet. Have you ever seen a new player, or someone who don t play this game all day long selling it. Ok, you didn t saw in your party, but in my party we was 3 low gear players, and the other one got bracelet, and he was old player. So don t tell me that a newbie loot bracelet, and don't know what it is. Hard to find something like this in Arcane legends.Maybe it's because most random and new player don't have the money to be able to afford 1m elixir which lasts for an hour? Have you thought about that?

Its usually the players that have spent 100m+ in elixirs grinding for 100 hours that loot many and good arcanes.

The more you run with elixir, the more odds you have of looting something good.

Its like rollinga dice, if you roll once you may or may not get a 6, but if you keep rolling you'll get a 6 eventually.

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[xbell]

Just stay in towns, look forums who sell bracelet. Have you ever seen a new player, or someone who don t play this game all day long selling it. Ok, you didn t saw in your party, but in my party we was 3 low gear players, and the other one got bracelet, and he was old player. So don t tell me that a newbie loot bracelet, and don't know what it is. Hard to find something like this in Arcane legends.Of course not all of the newbie will looted it because they just did few runs. And the important thing, that zaarus user you been talking about are using elixir? Mostly people with zaarus set didn't have that so they probably have super lower chance to loot it.

You have more chance to loot in locked chest than labyrinth. You probably asking why people who don't farm have it? Because they are opening locked chest or they are doing merch and reselling it.

Are you using elixir? You are just complaining because you didn't loot it even your runs is not enough. I know some people who run more than you didn't get bracelet even they are running with that elixir.

[Adf]

Of course not all of the newbie will looted it because they just did few runs. And the important thing, that zaarus user you been talking about are using elixir? Mostly people with zaarus set didn't have that so they probably have super lower chance to loot it.

You have more chance to loot in locked chest than labyrinth. You probably asking why people who don't farm have it? Because they are opening locked chest or they are doing merch and reselling it.

Are you using elixir? You are just complaining because you didn't loot it even your runs is not enough. I know some people who run more than you didn't get bracelet even they are running with that elixir.

Ok, forget about looting bracelet. That was only a part of my threat. Doesn t matter if you think what i m saying is wrong, or true. But what about these high stats on items? 24,5% int on a bracelet, 10% int on helm, and 7% stats, isn t a bad think? I think awakening becomes a way for richest to gain more gold etc. How much you need to awake such stats? For them looks way to eazy.

[Cliva]

Ok, forget about looting bracelet. That was only a part of my threat. Doesn t matter if you think what i m saying is wrong, or true. But what about these high stats on items? 24,5% int on a bracelet, 10% int on helm, and 7% stats, isn t a bad think? I think awakening becomes a way for richest to gain more gold etc. How much you need to awake such stats? For them looks way to eazy.

Once again, all depends on rng. You could spend 10-20 elite awake before getting good but you could also spend 100+ elite awake without getting anything good, all depends on rng.
It is not only for the rich to make gold, those who get lucky on awakenings may decide to sell their op stat awake for more gold.
They make it seem to easy? Because they have spent over 100m, some over 200m to prepare for that event so that they can get the awake they want.
Nothing is easy in this game, you just either get lucky and hit the best rng or you work hard and get what you deserve. You seem to complain about every little thing the "richest" have and compare it to "zaarus players" and make things seem unfair. Let people deserve and enjoy what they work hard for.

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[Potofgreed]

So yeah....

Why isn't this closed yet ?

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[wilson1108]

Why you complaining this kind of things? Are you jealous for those who have arc bracelet just bc you dont have it? Now is 86 new map dude, do you still want to use old gear or 2k primary stats to clear map and kill boss? The level is going higher and higher same as the health of mobs and bosses, you want to spend 1 hour to kill boss? Everything should have changes after expansion, why your mind always stuck at level 81 mob and bosses? And for the bracelet, why do you think zaarus player should sell it? Maybe they keep it for theirselves or maybe they sell in game trading with people, they can sell it in many ways. And why zaarus player didnt get bracelet? Maybe they didnt use elix while running, or they loot other arc execpt bracelet, thats all.

[VulcaineAL]

Bruh you are so dumb. You know how % chance work?
So I'm gonna explain it to you.
Im just saying you need to run that many to have 100% chance to loot arcane, and not you will only loot it when you have 2m points.
So let say you have 700k points it is 3.5k runs. 3500x0.01% = 35% chance to loot arcane. But in the arcane it is also have % chance too to get a brace so let say 20% to get the bracelet 20%x5=100%. So 5x6500= 32k runs.
This is only example if the chance of looting an arcane is 0.01% and getting a bracelet in arcane is 20%.

Another example
1% chance to loot arcane, 1% chance to loot brace.
So to loot arcane you need 100 runs, but in that arcane you only have 1% chance to get bracelet. So you need to loot 100 arcanes to get the bracelet. So 100x100 = 10000run you need.

I can't believe i did this math for you.
*Please someone correct me if im wrong in my math.

People who got it early is lucky even the % chance is low.

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That's not how probability works. Every time you kill the boss, a dice rolls. If the chance of getting an arcane is 1% then the dice has a 100 faces. You can roll the dice a hundred times (killing the boss a hundred times) and still not get the arcane.

This is because every time you roll the dice a face doesn't dissappear. If a face disspeared every time you rolled, THEN it would be guaranteed after a hundred rolls...

Inversely, someone can also roll 1 dice and land on arcane even if it has a million faces. Just unlikely.

[ImRandy]

You guys have been saying the same thing through this whole thread no matter if it’s number of runs or op gear. It’s just a loot table and where you land on it. Sts has only ever sold a re roll or luck modifier to its tables.

[VulcaineAL]

Most OP players you see have been playing for 8+ years opening hundreds of locked and nonstop grinding. You can't expect to reach the top without effort.

[sbarlaskar]

Personal experience,: I started cata with zaar ran a lot (close to 750k points) 3 brace full krak set now rich and can afford most things last event I looted stuff worth 1B+
Short story: just do it over and over untill u get lucky, crying on forum won't help

[Adf]

Personal experience,: I started cata with zaar ran a lot (close to 750k points) 3 brace full krak set now rich and can afford most things last event I looted stuff worth 1B+
Short story: just do it over and over untill u get lucky, crying on forum won't help

There is no way you looted 3 bracelets, and now come on forums to say it. How did you clear the map, since you had only zaarus set? It takes 20min to clear with zaarus party.
Plus if you had looted 1b worth of items last event, means you broke the sts alghoritm, and you make them loose money.

[sbarlaskar]

There are post of me trying to sell all the looted items in traders market go find out and meet me in game to see all bound gear from cata ign: Itssumith
If u still refuse to admit u r wrong then there is no point arguing with you :-)

[Hexame]

Even if you farm, i don t think you can compare with those who loot items in maps, by doing nothing, because drop rate based on their stats. Catacombs and lab was two of them pretty sure. I don t see a common player, to sell a bracelet but i see most lb players selling many. So DROP RATE ISN T RANDOM, thats for sure 1000000000% true.


If you believe that wearing op gear for stats/procs increases your drop rate and it's all based on their stats... then I'll have to stop you there because that's it's a very injudicious, erroneous assumption by a long shot

[OdenTheJust]

I swear this guy is just stirring the pot, he cant be serious. So many have tried explaining using logic but it goes right over his head. I vote we just ignore him, and his unbaked comments and focus on people that actually want to learn and get better.

[Stephencobear]

Even if you farm, i don t think you can compare with those who loot items in maps, by doing nothing, because drop rate based on their stats. Catacombs and lab was two of them pretty sure. I don t see a common player, to sell a bracelet but i see most lb players selling many. So DROP RATE ISN T RANDOM, thats for sure 1000000000% true.

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