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Justanutt
11-25-2023, 04:44 PM
If I cast a charged krak cannon while the Aquarius buff is active it seems like it is putting the cannon into cooldown but I’m missing the cannons buff. Am I correct here? Of course, I have just dropped Aquarius from the bulld.( I was using it with the speed set and it just loved to proc as I’m switching builds.)
Also, shoot the charged cannon and hit a target but switch build too fast and it looks like, again, I ruined the buff.however, the cannon looks like it is still in cooldown even though I didn’t see the icons appear in the corner. But I do see the cooldown icon there afterwards. Am I just breaking it?

Ploid
11-25-2023, 06:00 PM
I have no idea what u mean, so I am gonna speculate.

You can't use Kraken Gun while Aquaris is active, and untill it's cooldown ends.

This applies to almost all items with proc. Even if the proc ends, you can't do a 2nd or a different proc from the same gear slot untill the cooldown ends.

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Justanutt
11-25-2023, 08:51 PM
All I’m saying is, proc aqua, then try to proc a krak cannon and tell me what you’re seeing. I’m aware of what is “supposed” to happen, but I’m seeing one of the proc buffs under my character corner and it is in cooldown. I dont know, obviously, what is actually happening, or I wouldn’t ask. I just know oreck melts after I proc the gun but if aqua proc and I switch to a charged cannon shot, I’m over here waiting through a “cool down” not seeing his health move. It shouldn’t be doing this but it is acting like it, is all I’m saying. Nobody else seen anything like this?

Stephencobear
11-25-2023, 10:42 PM
All I’m saying is, proc aqua, then try to proc a krak cannon and tell me what you’re seeing. I’m aware of what is “supposed” to happen, but I’m seeing one of the proc buffs under my character corner and it is in cooldown. I dont know, obviously, what is actually happening, or I wouldn’t ask. I just know oreck melts after I proc the gun but if aqua proc and I switch to a charged cannon shot, I’m over here waiting through a “cool down” not seeing his health move. It shouldn’t be doing this but it is acting like it, is all I’m saying. Nobody else seen anything like this?

You may be remembering how some procs used to stack
Devs nerfed things so that less types of things can stack- not that they eliminated proc stacking

Ploid is right, you can’t proc the staff & stack that gun proc- same cool down applies
Ppl proc the gun & switch to dif sets for added stats, not procs

What you are seeing is normal rn

UwU123
11-26-2023, 06:13 AM
If you proc gun you can't proc staff..
If you proc staff you can't proc gun..







In short you cant proc both at the same time..

Dffleg
11-26-2023, 06:17 AM
2 weapons i think stack their procs. First one scratch gun and the other one zodias lv 76 gun. Scratch gun proc isn t as it was before but you can still together with staff for extra damage.

Justanutt
11-26-2023, 10:29 AM
What I’m saying is the aqaua is proked , then while proked the krack gun is charged and lands a hit. Then immediately goes into cooldown. Aqaua proc stops and I resume charging and landing shots with krack but with no proc as in the corner I see the cooldown proc ticking away but I never see any actual proc from the gun until the prok timer has disappeared from the corner. No one else has seen this happen?

Ploid
11-26-2023, 01:36 PM
What I’m saying is the aqaua is proked , then while proked the krack gun is charged and lands a hit. Then immediately goes into cooldown. Aqaua proc stops and I resume charging and landing shots with krack but with no proc as in the corner I see the cooldown proc ticking away but I never see any actual proc from the gun until the prok timer has disappeared from the corner. No one else has seen this happen?Krak Gun cant proc while Aqua is active. We have been trying to tell you that.

Landing a charged attack from Krak Gun while Aqua is active also doesn't stop Aqua proc, aqua proc proceeds as usual.

Krak Gun never goes into cooldown because it never actually procced

Yes, you can't proc another weapon untill the cooldown timer has gone away.

Dffleg
11-26-2023, 02:28 PM
Krak Gun cant proc while Aqua is active. We have been trying to tell you that.

Landing a charged attack from Krak Gun while Aqua is active also doesn't stop Aqua proc, aqua proc proceeds as usual.

Krak Gun never goes into cooldown because it never actually procced

Yes, you can't proc another weapon untill the cooldown timer has gone away.

Try arcane gun level 76 and kraken staff. Both of them proc on boss in same time. But their damage don t stack as scratch gun and staff did before level 81 expansion.

Stephencobear
11-26-2023, 10:13 PM
Try arcane gun level 76 and kraken staff. Both of them proc on boss in same time. But their damage don t stack as scratch gun and staff did before level 81 expansion.

That’s because that gun applies a debuff & dot, & the staff adds buffs
A debuff & buff can stack but 2 buffs usually don’t add up

That’s part of the new rules

Lichylichle
11-26-2023, 10:27 PM
Time traveler from old ages?


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Ploid
11-26-2023, 10:28 PM
Try arcane gun level 76 and kraken staff. Both of them proc on boss in same time. But their damage don t stack as scratch gun and staff did before level 81 expansion.Bruh, who the hell cares about Skratch Gun XD. It the damage doesn't stack, then what's the point?.

Skratch Gun is a debuff, it can proc, but there's literally no point as its very irrelevant.

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jazzbloonist
11-30-2023, 09:36 AM
Skratch gun has no cooldown, thus it can stack.
Hyperos has lower cooldown than proc duration thus it can also stack for a short period.

U cant proc krak gun after u proc aqua coz there is a weapon slot cooldown after u proc it. Note: it is a weapon slot cooldown not aqua cooldown. Means u cant proc any weapon at all during this cooldown period.

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