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Energizeric
10-19-2012, 03:39 AM
So I purchased the Week-Long Double-XP elixir.

Now I just got the 3x combo elixir in my blessing.

So 2x + 3x = 5x.....this i understand....

So what if I also purchase a 1-hour 4x xp elixir now....does that mean I get 9x?

I remember Technoemail said something about a ceiling that you couldn't go over with elixirs for armor, dmg, speed, etc... But I don't remember if there was a ceiling for xp. I'd really like to know before I shell out the plat and possibly find out that I wasted it.

dudetus
10-19-2012, 03:55 AM
8x is max, so I have heard.

Waug
10-19-2012, 04:29 AM
So I purchased the Week-Long Double-XP elixir.

Now I just got the 3x combo elixir in my blessing.

So 2x + 3x = 5x.....this i understand....

So what if I also purchase a 1-hour 4x xp elixir now....does that mean I get 9x
nope it should be 2 x 3 x 4 = 24x means 24x of what you could get without any kinda elix but again as you also said it may be capped as dmg, armor etc, can't remember that.

Energizeric
10-19-2012, 05:00 AM
nope it should be 2 x 3 x 4 = 24x means 24x of what you could get without any kinda elix but again as you also said it may be capped as dmg, armor etc, can't remember that.

This is wrong as has been explained by developers numerous times. Stacked means added, not multiplied.

Energizeric
10-19-2012, 05:01 AM
8x is max, so I have heard.

Thank you. I will try adding a smaller elixir and see if there is a difference.

onemadzhau
10-19-2012, 05:24 AM
Thank you. I will try adding a smaller elixir and see if there is a difference.

Just try the freebie 3x for 5 mins then try the 4x
On another note if u have a group and a good system, with the week long double xp and thrasher you can get 2k xp in mega maze in one 5min xp anywhere elixir

CrimsonTider
10-19-2012, 06:34 AM
E... you are correct in that they are "additives" NOT "multipliers".

Most you can get is this combination: Weeklong (2x) + Blessing (3x) + Thrasher/4x Elixir (4x) = 9x.

Brave Sir Robin
10-19-2012, 07:19 AM
Yes, Crimson is correct. This is Techno's thread which shows how it is calculated -> Link (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?70057-Elixir-Stacking&highlight=elixirs+stack)
However, in the end AbsolutePally states (Link (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?70057-Elixir-Stacking&p=797982&viewfull=1#post797982)) that he experimented and could not get this 9x. I think someone said yesterday that there is an 7x cap? Anyone knows something about this?

Probably it's best to continue this discussion in Techno's post, this is something that we would all like to know :)

Elyseon
10-19-2012, 07:23 AM
are you sure theres a cap? cuz if there is it doesnt apply to double xp week
i was getting like 1.3k xp in one mega maze run last time lmao

Brave Sir Robin
10-19-2012, 07:26 AM
I 've heard this cap does not affect double xp events. This is just for elixirs + blessings.

Zapoke
10-19-2012, 08:02 AM
For those of you who did not see Techno's post yesterday:

"remember samhayne mentioned weekly double + thrasher x4 would give x6 xp rate (Not x8)

daily x3 + weekly x2 = does it give 4.5 or 5?"
5.

"how about daily x3 , + weekly x2, + thrash x4 < does this give x12 or x13.5?"
12.


"please kindly clarify how it works
would be great if you can clarify how LUCK stacks as well. THANKS!"
Luck stacks the same way, but caps out at 100%. You add the percentages together. 25% luck + 30% luck = 55% luck. 30% luck + 100% luck = 100% luck.

Judging from this, I'd say that exp has absolutely no cap. The only visible limitation is the amount of elixirs you can have active.

Elyseon
10-19-2012, 08:12 AM
For those of you who did not see Techno's post yesterday:


Judging from this, I'd say that exp has absolutely no cap. The only visible limitation is the amount of elixirs you can have active.
thats what i thought

Brave Sir Robin
10-19-2012, 08:16 AM
Great Zap, thks. I didn't see techno's post.

Elyseon
10-19-2012, 08:20 AM
However, in the end AbsolutePally states (Link (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?70057-Elixir-Stacking&p=797982&viewfull=1#post797982)) that he experimented and could not get this 9x.
was this attemped in bsm or magic castle?
cuz the weaker mobs in magic castle only give like 0.5xp to start with

Zapoke
10-19-2012, 08:23 AM
However, in the end AbsolutePally states (Link (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?70057-Elixir-Stacking&p=797982&viewfull=1#post797982)) that he experimented and could not get this 9x.
was this attemped in bsm or magic castle?
cuz the weaker mobs in magic castle only give like 0.5xp to start with

I'd say that's backwards. :S I can get 7k exp in less than 20 minutes in Magic Caste.. And maybe 7k in one hour at BSM.

Brave Sir Robin
10-19-2012, 08:27 AM
No idea, Ely. If he sees this he can enlighten us, not sure if he finally got a reply from Techno.

Elyseon
10-19-2012, 08:31 AM
I'd say that's backwards. :S I can get 7k exp in less than 20 minutes in Magic Caste.. And maybe 7k in one hour at BSM.
thats over time, im talking about per kill

you just kill so much faster there that the lower mob multiplier still surpasses the killing speed on bsm mobs

Rare
10-19-2012, 08:33 AM
For those of you who did not see Techno's post yesterday:


Judging from this, I'd say that exp has absolutely no cap. The only visible limitation is the amount of elixirs you can have active.

Maybe I'm dumb... but I'm not following that math.

How does x3 + x2 + x4 give 12?

Elyseon
10-19-2012, 08:35 AM
Maybe I'm dumb... but I'm not following that math.

How does x3 + x2 + x4 give 12?

i was asking same thing on that thread, still wait for this secret dev mathmagician to explain said theory

Brave Sir Robin
10-19-2012, 08:40 AM
We said 9x here, which I believe is the correct answer :)
Point is there should be no cap, unless someone proves otherwise.

Elyseon
10-19-2012, 08:42 AM
they keep adding more elixirs, so pretty soon theyll be so many stacked you do one run of FH:1 and youre capped!
:D

BodMaster
10-19-2012, 08:47 AM
they keep adding more elixirs, so pretty soon theyll be so many stacked you do one run of FH:1 and youre capped!
:D

Guess it's time I played again xD

StompArtist
10-19-2012, 08:49 AM
They need a megalixir which caps you for killing a zombie in the tutorial!

dudetus
10-19-2012, 08:53 AM
They need a megalixir which caps you for killing a zombie in the tutorial!

Which is 1k plat.

CrimsonTider
10-19-2012, 08:55 AM
For those of you who did not see Techno's post yesterday:


Judging from this, I'd say that exp has absolutely no cap. The only visible limitation is the amount of elixirs you can have active.

I hadn't seen this either. Thanks for the info Zap.

Elyseon
10-19-2012, 08:59 AM
Which is 1k plat.

wow deal! 2 caps for $90

Techno Email
10-19-2012, 09:05 AM
So I purchased the Week-Long Double-XP elixir.

Now I just got the 3x combo elixir in my blessing.

So 2x + 3x = 5x.....this i understand....

So what if I also purchase a 1-hour 4x xp elixir now....does that mean I get 9x?

I remember Technoemail said something about a ceiling that you couldn't go over with elixirs for armor, dmg, speed, etc... But I don't remember if there was a ceiling for xp. I'd really like to know before I shell out the plat and possibly find out that I wasted it.

You will get 9x. There is no cap on multipliers for XP (until you hit max. level, awwwwwwbviously ;D).

Elyseon
10-19-2012, 09:08 AM
(until you hit max. level, awwwwwwbviously ;D).
u mean i no can keep magic castleing to lvlINFINITI
D:

Techno Email
10-19-2012, 09:17 AM
u mean i no can keep magic castleing to lvlinfiniti
d:

NOOOOOO!!! :D NO level infinity! :D

Elyseon
10-19-2012, 09:21 AM
NOOOOOO!!! :D NO level infinity! :D
but justg can do it :O

Energizeric
10-19-2012, 01:36 PM
One thing I did notice is that I seem to get slightly more xp from the later BM dungeons than from the first one, Lost Valley. I've seen this before in previous campaigns. I find in Lost Valley I'm getting around 4-4.5 xp per kill, while if i go to Dragon's Nest I'm getting 5. I'm at level 72 currently, so I'm guessing perhaps that this has something to do with the threat color that's been previously discussed. Maybe the bad guys in Lost Valley are Level 71 and those in Dragon's Nest are higher.

Elyseon
10-19-2012, 05:01 PM
One thing I did notice is that I seem to get slightly more xp from the later BM dungeons than from the first one, Lost Valley. I've seen this before in previous campaigns. I find in Lost Valley I'm getting around 4-4.5 xp per kill, while if i go to Dragon's Nest I'm getting 5. I'm at level 72 currently, so I'm guessing perhaps that this has something to do with the threat color that's been previously discussed. Maybe the bad guys in Lost Valley are Level 71 and those in Dragon's Nest are higher.
at 72 the threat can be white if you are the highest level

Ogbuehi
10-19-2012, 05:03 PM
Does the skill of beckoning by a bear raise the threat level? I've never seen any other time an exclamation mark pops up unless its totally random.

Elyseon
10-19-2012, 05:05 PM
Does the skill of beckoning by a bear raise the threat level? I've never seen any other time an exclamation mark pops up unless its totally random.
the exclamation just means you drew their agro, will also happen with taunt

Elyseon
10-19-2012, 05:11 PM
heres where to find the threat level
18386
see the yellow dot by his healthbar

Ogbuehi
10-19-2012, 08:18 PM
Never noticed that. What are the different levels of threat?

Elyseon
10-20-2012, 12:55 AM
I think it's white(at your level), yellow(usually at your level but you havent killed enough enemies in map), red(above your level), blue(you're to high)

I could be wrong, I really haven't done much scaled farming since 56 cap

Dirtymonkey_666
10-20-2012, 12:55 AM
green - no xp. blue - 0.5 xp per kill (i believe). gray - normal xp (1 xp). yellow - 1.25 xp per kill (i believe). red - 1.5 xp per kill (again, i believe)
Never noticed that. What are the different levels of threat?

Elyseon
10-20-2012, 01:05 AM
green - no xp. blue - 0.5 xp per kill (i believe). gray - normal xp (1 xp). yellow - 1.25 xp per kill (i believe). red - 1.5 xp per kill (again, i believe)
Yeh I forgot green, I'm more acustomed to the farming aspects of it
But xp is definately way more applicable to this thread, and you can't even judge scaled farming buy it anymore

Brave Sir Robin
10-21-2012, 04:15 PM
One thing I did notice is that I seem to get slightly more xp from the later BM dungeons than from the first one, Lost Valley. I've seen this before in previous campaigns. I find in Lost Valley I'm getting around 4-4.5 xp per kill, while if i go to Dragon's Nest I'm getting 5. I'm at level 72 currently, so I'm guessing perhaps that this has something to do with the threat color that's been previously discussed. Maybe the bad guys in Lost Valley are Level 71 and those in Dragon's Nest are higher.

As both 71 and 73 (solo) I see enemies in the beginning of Valley "white". In the beginning of Magma, yellow. So each kill in Magma should give more xp. However, what counts is xp/time. So see how much xp/hour you can get from each level and decide what's best.

Btw, I too noticed that in upper levels you get more xp/hour. But this could have happened because of variation in group efficiency.

Zapoke
10-21-2012, 05:21 PM
As both 71 and 73 (solo) I see enemies in the beginning of Valley "white". In the beginning of Magma, yellow. So each kill in Magma should give more xp. However, what counts is xp/time. So see how much xp/hour you can get from each level and decide what's best.

Btw, I too noticed that in upper levels you get more xp/hour. But this could have happened because of variation in group efficiency.

I got a surprisingly good exp gain in the plat dungeon while farming on my 71, actually lol. I did about 10 runs and got about 5k exp in about 30 minutes. (Though I had 9x exp) But that probably is because plat dungeons generally have more people running elixirs.

Brave Sir Robin
10-22-2012, 08:47 AM
I got a surprisingly good exp gain in the plat dungeon while farming on my 71, actually lol. I did about 10 runs and got about 5k exp in about 30 minutes. (Though I had 9x exp) But that probably is because plat dungeons generally have more people running elixirs.
This is interesting, because you can combine farming and levelling... although it might be better to do it at a later stage to get some more crafting materials when they start dropping. How long does it take to clear the plat dungeon?

Suentous PO
10-22-2012, 10:06 AM
Maybe I'm dumb... but I'm not following that math.

How does x3 + x2 + x4 give 12?
It was, x3+x2+x4+ 1.something (max threat)+1.something( full party) =12ish.
Sory about the highly technical term ".something" Sam said "we do love our fractions"

Zapoke
10-22-2012, 10:18 AM
I got a surprisingly good exp gain in the plat dungeon while farming on my 71, actually lol. I did about 10 runs and got about 5k exp in about 30 minutes. (Though I had 9x exp) But that probably is because plat dungeons generally have more people running elixirs.
This is interesting, because you can combine farming and levelling... although it might be better to do it at a later stage to get some more crafting materials when they start dropping. How long does it take to clear the plat dungeon?

5 minutes with a thrasher group that doesn't suck. Lol.

Aressgodxx
11-24-2012, 05:58 PM
I had thanksgiving weekend this week 11/24/12 and i got a 10 exp when i only had thrasher. i got x4 thrasher and x2 thanksgiving weekend double exp. i got 10 exp each does this make sense?! no but im not complaining. i added a x2 week long elixir and i got like 11-20 it also started giving me 10 exp then 11 then 10 then 11 then 20 so.. if you have daily blessing x3 combo week long x2 thanksgiving or labor day weekend x2 and thrasher then you most likely get like: 15-25 exp each.. judging by the time of this post the daily blessings havent come out yet back then:

answer: there is no max exp that can be recieved but with the resources you have it is limited to how much u can get. (max exp possible: 23 im thinking. )

Bless
11-25-2012, 05:57 AM
I had thanksgiving weekend this week 11/24/12 and i got a 10 exp when i only had thrasher. i got x4 thrasher and x2 thanksgiving weekend double exp. i got 10 exp each does this make sense?! no but im not complaining. i added a x2 week long elixir and i got like 11-20 it also started giving me 10 exp then 11 then 10 then 11 then 20 so.. if you have daily blessing x3 combo week long x2 thanksgiving or labor day weekend x2 and thrasher then you most likely get like: 15-25 exp each.. judging by the time of this post the daily blessings havent come out yet back then:

answer: there is no max exp that can be recieved but with the resources you have it is limited to how much u can get. (max exp possible: 23 im thinking. ) necro...

Ape
11-25-2012, 08:06 AM
just to make it clear:

dubble xp weekend: 2x
dubble xp week: 2x
3x daily: 3x
trash: 4x

the xp will get counted like this: weekend x (week+daily+trash)
2 x ( 2 + 3 + 4 ) = 18

u will recieve max with this weekend 18x xp.

Knockador
11-25-2012, 08:35 AM
To clear everryyyything up

Daily(5min): 3x
3x Combo (the five day daily/ if you're lucky to get like I did): 3x Combo
4x Trasher: 4x
2x Weekend: 2x
2x Weeklong: 2x

14x Would be the highest. After 5min it would be 11x.

25thninja
11-25-2012, 08:44 AM
NOOOOOO!!! :D NO level infinity! :D

Im level 1 billion jus check my sig B)
SIGS NEVER LIE

Ogbuehi
11-25-2012, 05:46 PM
To clear everryyyything up

Daily(5min): 3x
3x Combo (the five day daily/ if you're lucky to get like I did): 3x Combo
4x Trasher: 4x
2x Weekend: 2x
2x Weeklong: 2x

14x Would be the highest. After 5min it would be 11x.

I don't think you can combine daily elixir with 3x blessings. Whenever I try it tells me I already have a combo elixir and it won't let receive the daily. And I though daily was 1.5x combo. Best right now is 2x weekend times (3x combo+4x thrash+ 2x week long)= 18x. After this weekend, 9x is your best bet.

noperly22
11-25-2012, 06:17 PM
nope it should be 2 x 3 x 4 = 24x means 24x of what you could get without any kinda elix but again as you also said it may be capped as dmg, armor etc, can't remember that.

lol you add them fool

aav5224
11-25-2012, 08:06 PM
30 xp max happy?

Energizeric
11-26-2012, 01:29 AM
I'm pretty sure the developer posted you can get 18x max with this double xp weekend.

mike1298
11-26-2012, 04:58 AM
I'm pretty sure the developer posted you can get 18x max with this double xp weekend.

Yup. Everyone here trying to figure it out when it is on an announcement thread.

Multibird
11-26-2012, 12:58 PM
So during this weekend my friend had 1.25xp from blessing, regular 4x thrasher and 2x weekend long exp which is 1.25+2+4 = 7.25. But since it was double exp weekend 2(1.25+2+4) = 14.50 exp per kill and add extra exp if with a full group. So my friend leveled from 1-76 in a day and from 75-76, he got 50k per thrasher. PRO

Bunnyshoota
11-26-2012, 09:00 PM
Then what about the 1.5 gold elixirs? Do you get 1.5 or 2.5x?

Zapoke
11-27-2012, 09:27 PM
Then what about the 1.5 gold elixirs? Do you get 1.5 or 2.5x?

If you mean during a 2x weekend, the answer is neither. The multiplier would be 3x.

vampinoy
11-27-2012, 10:04 PM
STS should just go direct to the point and sell a "level up elixir". 50 Platinum for 5 levels up, 50 platinum for 5 levels down. :D No point beating around the bush, PL already plummeted to an all time cheapness in gameplay anyway :D