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Leebazhafe
01-28-2024, 12:00 AM
Edited: Very interesting opinions from everyone. I've been playing since 2013. I farmed locked from Jarl, using lep pendant I got from farming Jarl without lep. All the Arcane's and Mythics up until scratch, skull, and dugger got introduced were pretty balanced. Arc's and Myths were simply op items to get but you can survive with legend items. Nowadays the gap between the "cheap" Zaarus and new Arcane is massive. Can't kill these farming bosses and maps with only Zaa or legend. Farm and let op players carry you? "2s mage or tank kraken only" lmao sure. Farm events? How will a new player know which event is profitable? Farm jewels? Okay farm jewels until you can afford Kraken arm and weap which is only decent. 160-200m for decent?

Why did I make this post? I love this game. I can afford all the new gears but I'm afraid that my beloved childhood game will end up dying if things don't change. We need new players. I want this game to grow. Compared to other mobile MMO's this game is sooo much better. Thanks for all the opinions lmao and don't start beef with each other xD

A review I saw on this game.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240128/8842cc61a91ce26d34e575f5157cbaf5.jpg

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Itzmemohsin
01-28-2024, 06:06 AM
Very true , it's very hard to convince someone else to join the game at this point , it's all very messed up !

Oakvale
01-28-2024, 06:32 AM
Yeah, proc legends is a cancer. Back in the days there was not such a big gap between legendary and mythic stuff . It could give you like 20-30% damage increase compared to what, like 10000% nowadays? The maps(especially newer ones like zodias and recent expansion) certainly scale to high end geared players leaving no room at all for newer players. The fact that events are now much harder than they used to be doesn’t help either. Not gonna say anything about the slots revamp - it’s a disaster.
I’m almost sure it will stay that way tho so no hight expectations on this case

Itzmemohsin
01-28-2024, 09:24 AM
I have a few ideas to deal with the situation

1 . Streamline the leveling process so that you level up with the flow and don’t have to repeat a map once u have completed it, just continue moving through maps and leveling up naturally without feeling like you are stuck at a certain level .

2. Some sort of bound starter gears for end game with decent stats and decent procs that is like 30-40% weaker than the current best gears and make them available through relatively easy quests that don’t require a super intense grind and going through very hard maps like catacombs or make a free advancement pack for every 5 levels till end game

3. Either remove gold loot [Which doesn’t seem a viable option] or make it so that everyone can have base 1000% gold loot from the passive section of the stats , this way gold loot gears still remain valuable but the gap between non gl & gl players is reduced because currently the difference is very crazy !


Currently it’s very overwhelming for anyone to think of starting or joining the game at its current state , I feel like these are some necessary changes to revive the game .

dvlong
01-28-2024, 10:36 AM
As someone who played this game for a long time, it is hard doesn’t matter if u start this year, last year or 5 years ago. But really the current stage is not bad for newbies. Leveling up is 5x more easy, mythic gears and pets are cheap and strong. Gold loot gears are also cheap and accessible. Arcane gears are expensive sure, but mythic gears can clear almost all contents in this game. All I’m saying is don’t expect to get anywhere in a week or 2. But if u Actually Playing the game for 1-3 months, u will start getting somewhere.
If u are starting the game and don’t know anything about the game. Add me ( dvlong ) i will answer yr questions.

Fahtsssss
01-28-2024, 10:40 AM
Whats funny is when I started this game back in 2017 ish, I quit multiple times because I couldn't understand how to earn gold and my pets kept eating all the gold I earned lol. I definitely feel like it's nostalgia when people speak about the old days of the game. -1 for the way we earn slots, they definitely screwed new players on that, but as Dvlong said.. gold sets are extremely cheap now, eggs, even a lot of the gear is lowering in price.. you just need to put time in.

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Disrupts
01-28-2024, 11:28 AM
Player from 2013.

In my experience playing games, you can't expect to be "strong" or "the best" within a few months or weeks.

This goes for Arcane Legends, World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy 14, etc.

There is a progression to these things.

Don't start and expect everything to be handed to you for free.

In the old days, you had to be rich to own arcane pets and mythic pets. You needed a fortune for any type of arcane gear, as it is the best gear.

Maps took FOREVER to clear.

How did I earn gold starting?

Farming locked crates with luck loot from Jarl. Sold each lock for like 14k each, and I would be so happy to see them drop.

Nowadays, you can get a 700 GL set for less than 100m gold, and farm 70-80k gold / boss kill. 10 boss kills in 15 minutes? Thats 700k gold.

1 hour? 2.8m gold.

Do 1 hour for 10 days? That's 28m gold, thats an arcane ring, helm, and pet.

Will you need some starter gear? Yea, zaarus is plenty. Before kraken, what do you guys think we used? Zaarus gear. I know I did on my mage.

It is all about time spent grinding, and progressing your in game characters "status" and your skills playing the game.

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ItzZix
01-28-2024, 12:30 PM
I have a few ideas to deal with the situation

1 . Streamline the leveling process so that you level up with the flow and don’t have to repeat a map once u have completed it, just continue moving through maps and leveling up naturally without feeling like you are stuck at a certain level .

2. Some sort of bound starter gears for end game with decent stats and decent procs that is like 30-40% weaker than the current best gears and make them available through relatively easy quests that don’t require a super intense grind and going through very hard maps like catacombs or make a free advancement pack for every 5 levels till end game

3. Either remove gold loot [Which doesn’t seem a viable option] or make it so that everyone can have base 1000% gold loot from the passive section of the stats , this way gold loot gears still remain valuable but the gap between non gl & gl players is reduced because currently the difference is very crazy !


Currently it’s very overwhelming for anyone to think of starting or joining the game at its current state , I feel like these are some necessary changes to revive the game .

1000%gl passive ??! LMAOOO IM DEAD [emoji88][emoji88][emoji88]


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tapsykrete
01-28-2024, 12:39 PM
why not have a gold loot cap too, like 700%gl max or 800%gl only.
adjust the damage proc. make useful skills/ulti.

Opflex
01-28-2024, 12:39 PM
I have a few ideas to deal with the situation

1 . Streamline the leveling process so that you level up with the flow and don’t have to repeat a map once u have completed it, just continue moving through maps and leveling up naturally without feeling like you are stuck at a certain level .

2. Some sort of bound starter gears for end game with decent stats and decent procs that is like 30-40% weaker than the current best gears and make them available through relatively easy quests that don’t require a super intense grind and going through very hard maps like catacombs or make a free advancement pack for every 5 levels till end game

3. Either remove gold loot [Which doesn’t seem a viable option] or make it so that everyone can have base 1000% gold loot from the passive section of the stats , this way gold loot gears still remain valuable but the gap between non gl & gl players is reduced because currently the difference is very crazy !


Currently it’s very overwhelming for anyone to think of starting or joining the game at its current state , I feel like these are some necessary changes to revive the game .

1000 gold loot is crazy lol prob not even half of the players that play this game have 1000gl yet at this point you just asking for a free to play game asking for free gears free gold loot at the start of game when Is already easy just have to grind the game


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Raritys
01-28-2024, 12:46 PM
1000 gold loot is crazy lol prob not even half of the players that play this game have 1000gl yet at this point you just asking for a free to play game asking for free gears free gold loot at the start of game when Is already easy just have to grind the game


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With bracelets and new stuff 1000 gl is not hard to obtain whatsoever

ItzZix
01-28-2024, 12:58 PM
With bracelets and new stuff 1000 gl is not hard to obtain whatsoever

Yeah but people selling it mad expensive…


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Opflex
01-28-2024, 01:48 PM
With bracelets and new stuff 1000 gl is not hard to obtain whatsoever

Then start giving new players bracelets and new stuff so they can farm


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ItzZix
01-28-2024, 01:51 PM
Then start giving new players bracelets and new stuff so they can farm


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Stephencobear
01-28-2024, 02:12 PM
Yeah, proc legends is a cancer. Back in the days there was not such a big gap between legendary and mythic stuff . It could give you like 20-30% damage increase compared to what, like 10000% nowadays? The maps(especially newer ones like zodias and recent expansion) certainly scale to high end geared players leaving no room at all for newer players. The fact that events are now much harder than they used to be doesn’t help either. Not gonna say anything about the slots revamp - it’s a disaster.
I’m almost sure it will stay that way tho so no hight expectations on this case
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This, sts eliminated proc stacking to reintroduce proc stacking- rng legends
Also

Player from 2013.
Nowadays, you can get a 700 GL set for less than 100m gold, and farm 70-80k gold / boss kill. 10 boss kills in 15 minutes? Thats 700k gold.


Mostly agree but you skip the part where a new player with bad gear earns 100m without some rng luck from a possible event & a good guild or good connections
Most newbs won’t have that

Raritys
01-28-2024, 02:15 PM
Yeah but people selling it mad expensive…


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490gl venal is 90-110m
100gl arti 65m
50gl helm armor like 20m each
90gl bracelet like 40m
180gl wep like 100m
+50gl pet like 5-15m

That’s OVER 1k gl for under 400m

180
490
100
100
90
50

Also 400m can be obtained by literally one event, so it’s not expensive whatsoever

Stephencobear
01-28-2024, 02:21 PM
Also 400m can be obtained by literally one event, so it’s not expensive whatsoever

If every new player could get 400m from 1 event we would have Venezuelan inflation

ItzZix
01-28-2024, 03:41 PM
490gl venal is 90-110m
100gl arti 65m
50gl helm armor like 20m each
90gl bracelet like 40m
180gl wep like 100m
+50gl pet like 5-15m

That’s OVER 1k gl for under 400m

180
490
100
100
90
50

Also 400m can be obtained by literally one event, so it’s not expensive whatsoever

Yea new player will get 400m in 3+ months. Nice[emoji106]


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Opflex
01-28-2024, 04:10 PM
Yea new player will get 400m in 3+ months. Nice[emoji106]


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I know right like new player gonna have any clue how to make 400m in 3 months [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] this guy doesn’t even know what he saying [emoji28]


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Raritys
01-28-2024, 04:42 PM
I know right like new player gonna have any clue how to make 400m in 3 months [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] this guy doesn’t even know what he saying [emoji28]


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400m in 3 months doesn’t seem hard at all, maybe if you’re dumb and have no clue about anything .

I have friends who got banned or quit starting with nothing or just re downloaded the game and started from scratch, who now have billions.

In the first 3 months they were on the way up and had gold loot set and much more stuff above 400m value, I’m not gonna explain how to make 400m in 3 months it’s quite simple if you don’t know that’s not my problem, however I will say it’s very very possible

Raritys
01-28-2024, 04:45 PM
If every new player could get 400m from 1 event we would have Venezuelan inflation

Are you forgetting every single Lb vanity is above 1b+ now?

are you forgetting Medusa set sold for 50b+ now

Yeti 110b+ offers on it

Ice golem 60b++

We’re talking billions here, is that not “Venezuelan inflation”

ItzZix
01-28-2024, 04:48 PM
400m in 3 months doesn’t seem hard at all, maybe if you’re dumb and have no clue about anything .

I have friends who got banned or quit starting with nothing or just re downloaded the game and started from scratch, who now have billions.

In the first 3 months they were on the way up and had gold loot set and much more stuff above 400m value, I’m not gonna explain how to make 400m in 3 months it’s quite simple if you don’t know that’s not my problem, however I will say it’s very very possible

Bro we talking about NEW PLAYERS. Players that probably don’t even know how to buy mana in the first week. But you talking about people that got banned but came back from start, but at least they know how to buy mana in the first week [emoji1787][emoji1787], at least they know how to make gold and probably got friends from the past but what about the new new players ? SMH

Opflex
01-28-2024, 04:59 PM
400m in 3 months doesn’t seem hard at all, maybe if you’re dumb and have no clue about anything .

I have friends who got banned or quit starting with nothing or just re downloaded the game and started from scratch, who now have billions.

In the first 3 months they were on the way up and had gold loot set and much more stuff above 400m value, I’m not gonna explain how to make 400m in 3 months it’s quite simple if you don’t know that’s not my problem, however I will say it’s very very possible

Im not saying 400m is not possible I have made more than that in 3months we talking about new player this WHOLE TIME so next time you put ur nose where it doesn’t belong like you always do in every post go take a reading class and understand what we been talking about the whole time [emoji8]


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Raritys
01-28-2024, 05:33 PM
Bro we talking about NEW PLAYERS. Players that probably don’t even know how to buy mana in the first week. But you talking about people that got banned but came back from start, but at least they know how to buy mana in the first week [emoji1787][emoji1787], at least they know how to make gold and probably got friends from the past but what about the new new players ? SMH

Ok I’m sorry, players who dont know how to buy mana within a week of playing AL, shouldn’t be playing arcane legends, shouldn’t be playing any MMO at that point or even any game .

I’ve never met someone who struggled to buy mana pots for an entire week, are you referring to special needs people?

If so then I agree 400m is hard to make in 3 months

Raritys
01-28-2024, 05:37 PM
Im not saying 400m is not possible I have made more than that in 3months we talking about new player this WHOLE TIME so next time you put ur nose where it doesn’t belong like you always do in every post go take a reading class and understand what we been talking about the whole time [emoji8]


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I know you’re talking about “new people” but most mmos are similar it’s not hard to catch on, it shouldn’t take more then a few weeks to know all the basics of the game and stuff about pets inventory “mana pots 💀” and all that, so after those few weeks I’m sure they’ll know how to level up too, and then a month or two after which is a long time I’m sure they’ll be earning gold and learned alot by that point .

Though it seems to me like you guys are referring to people with Down syndrome instead of “new players”, if so then I agree +1 make it easier for people with Down syndrome cause they aren’t able to buy mana pots in a week and 3 months isn’t enough for them to make 400m

you guys say “new players” as if it’s a newborn baby instead of an actual human who has a brain .

Itzmemohsin
01-28-2024, 05:41 PM
400m in 3 months doesn’t seem hard at all, maybe if you’re dumb and have no clue about anything .

I have friends who got banned or quit starting with nothing or just re downloaded the game and started from scratch, who now have billions.

In the first 3 months they were on the way up and had gold loot set and much more stuff above 400m value, I’m not gonna explain how to make 400m in 3 months it’s quite simple if you don’t know that’s not my problem, however I will say it’s very very possibleYou know something, everyone isn't that patient and many people like to play casually rather than making it their second job .

Spamming skills in maps isn't really that appealing of a gameplay atleast nowadays and that too when u are wayy weaker than the people with best gears .

These are a fact weather u agree or not , coz I know people who have tried to join and just got bored very fast and left to never come back which is very much understandable , coz it's all very overwhelming for any sensible person !

Opflex
01-28-2024, 06:30 PM
I know you’re talking about “new people” but most mmos are similar it’s not hard to catch on, it shouldn’t take more then a few weeks to know all the basics of the game and stuff about pets inventory “mana pots [emoji88]” and all that, so after those few weeks I’m sure they’ll know how to level up too, and then a month or two after which is a long time I’m sure they’ll be earning gold and learned alot by that point .

Though it seems to me like you guys are referring to people with Down syndrome instead of “new players”, if so then I agree +1 make it easier for people with Down syndrome cause they aren’t able to buy mana pots in a week and 3 months isn’t enough for them to make 400m

you guys say “new players” as if it’s a newborn baby instead of an actual human who has a brain .

Not every player that play Al has played mmos before this could be their first mmos game including myself this was my first mmos meaning and a new player is not gonna learn how to farm and how to get gear, what’s the best gear, how to get gold loot and so on…also how is the new player is gonna be able to buy any type of gear without spending plat which would take ur mom credit card to buy or you think they can buy a gold loot set doing quest that gives you 1-5k. the not knowing how to buy mama was being sarcastic but you too dumb to understand from what I have read from all ur replies tells me that you the one here with Down syndrome


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Opflex
01-28-2024, 06:34 PM
You know something, everyone isn't that patient and many people like to play casually rather than making it their second job .

Spamming skills in maps isn't really that appealing of a gameplay atleast nowadays and that too when u are wayy weaker than the people with best gears .

These are a fact weather u agree or not , coz I know people who have tried to join and just got bored very fast and left to never come back which is very much understandable , coz it's all very overwhelming for any sensible person !

Facts bro


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GiovanniAvila
01-28-2024, 07:13 PM
Y’all saying it takes months or even years to progress in this game is crazy lmaoo no wonder this game is dead , nobody gonna spend hours and hours for months trying to get some what decent gears on a MOBILE game[emoji24] no new players will ever play this game , just the existing players base which is also slowly dying


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GiovanniAvila
01-28-2024, 07:17 PM
400m in 3 months doesn’t seem hard at all, maybe if you’re dumb and have no clue about anything .

I have friends who got banned or quit starting with nothing or just re downloaded the game and started from scratch, who now have billions.

In the first 3 months they were on the way up and had gold loot set and much more stuff above 400m value, I’m not gonna explain how to make 400m in 3 months it’s quite simple if you don’t know that’s not my problem, however I will say it’s very very possible

Bro is contradicting the point of this thread [emoji88] ofc if you alrdy been playing for years and have knowledge of the game you’ll make gold easily , but he’s talking about new players who will have no clue how to get gold or what even to spend it on [emoji88] you can’t progress in this game without being an old player who knows how the game economy works , or spending money , new players will quit within a few days of playing , L game


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ItzZix
01-28-2024, 07:21 PM
Ok I’m sorry, players who dont know how to buy mana within a week of playing AL, shouldn’t be playing arcane legends, shouldn’t be playing any MMO at that point or even any game .

I’ve never met someone who struggled to buy mana pots for an entire week, are you referring to special needs people?

If so then I agree 400m is hard to make in 3 months

Bros don’t know what’s being sarcastic means [emoji88]


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GiovanniAvila
01-28-2024, 07:23 PM
Bros don’t know what’s being sarcastic means [emoji88]


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[emoji88] no way he actually based his argument on the mana subject


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Stephencobear
01-28-2024, 07:23 PM
Are you forgetting every single Lb vanity is above 1b+ now?

are you forgetting Medusa set sold for 50b+ now

Yeti 110b+ offers on it

Ice golem 60b++

We’re talking billions here, is that not “Venezuelan inflation”

This thread is about new players

Why are you bringing up the most expensive unattainable items

No new player earns enough in one event to buy Medusa “now”

ItzZix
01-28-2024, 07:24 PM
Bro is contradicting the point of this thread [emoji88] ofc if you alrdy been playing for years and have knowledge of the game you’ll make gold easily , but he’s talking about new players who will have no clue how to get gold or what even to spend it on [emoji88] you can’t progress in this game without being an old player who knows how the game economy works , or spending money , new players will quit within a few days of playing , L game


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Lmaoo that’s what I’m saying we talking about new players NEW PLAYERS, not people that quit or got ban and came back from start. Those people already know how this games works xd.


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ItzZix
01-28-2024, 07:26 PM
This thread is about new players

Why are you bringing up the most expensive unattainable items

No new player earns enough in one event to buy Medusa “now”

He gotta go back to class he probably forgot how to read and understand [emoji88][emoji2369]


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GiovanniAvila
01-28-2024, 07:27 PM
People will farm 100k by the time they’re lvl 50 or so just to find out you can’t buy anything at all with it [emoji88][emoji88] yeah I’d quit to


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Opflex
01-28-2024, 07:33 PM
People will farm 100k by the time they’re lvl 50 or so just to find out you can’t buy anything at all with it [emoji88][emoji88] yeah I’d quit to


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ItzZix
01-28-2024, 07:34 PM
People will farm 100k by the time they’re lvl 50 or so just to find out you can’t buy anything at all with it [emoji88][emoji88] yeah I’d quit to


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Raritys
01-28-2024, 10:02 PM
Not every player that play Al has played mmos before this could be their first mmos game including myself this was my first mmos meaning and a new player is not gonna learn how to farm and how to get gear, what’s the best gear, how to get gold loot and so on…also how is the new player is gonna be able to buy any type of gear without spending plat which would take ur mom credit card to buy or you think they can buy a gold loot set doing quest that gives you 1-5k. the not knowing how to buy mama was being sarcastic but you too dumb to understand from what I have read from all ur replies tells me that you the one here with Down syndrome


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You say a new player is “not gonna learn how to farm” but then say you were a new player once too and I’m sure you know how to farm, anyone with half a brain NEW TO MMOS or not will eventually learn, it’s not THAT hard, you make it seem like you have to spend thousands of dollars for 400m and to learn how to farm, I’m willing to continue proving my point to you if you start putting into perspective a new player with a brain instead of assuming the new player is 3 years old or something .

Alfaromeo6969
01-28-2024, 10:18 PM
You say a new player is “not gonna learn how to farm” but then say you were a new player once too and I’m sure you know how to farm, anyone with half a brain NEW TO MMOS or not will eventually learn, it’s not THAT hard, you make it seem like you have to spend thousands of dollars for 400m and to learn how to farm, I’m willing to continue proving my point to you if you start putting into perspective a new player with a brain instead of assuming the new player is 3 years old or something .

mf they aint you ofc its easy for you since… you just manipulate items in game with your friends and rip everyone off. Just like the other thread yall helping each other to manipulate the og celtic for 2.5b

“ill say vest is 2b set is 2-3b… if you find any cheaper ill buy ign arv” [emoji851][emoji851][emoji851][emoji851]

GiovanniAvila
01-28-2024, 10:18 PM
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Itzmemohsin
01-28-2024, 10:19 PM
You say a new player is “not gonna learn how to farm” but then say you were a new player once too and I’m sure you know how to farm, anyone with half a brain NEW TO MMOS or not will eventually learn, it’s not THAT hard, you make it seem like you have to spend thousands of dollars for 400m and to learn how to farm, I’m willing to continue proving my point to you if you start putting into perspective a new player with a brain instead of assuming the new player is 3 years old or something .

Learning to farm or play ain’t that hard to do , but keeping new players engaged is another thing , honestly do u really think it would be be worth or fun playing the game as a beginner at it’s current state in 2024 ?

Alfaromeo6969
01-28-2024, 10:25 PM
Learning to farm or play ain’t that hard to do , but keeping new players engaged is another thing , honestly do u really think it would be be worth or fun playing the game as a beginner at it’s current state in 2024 ?

true bro that raritys just crazy with his pets i mean friends that willing to suck his p*ssy.

Raritys
01-28-2024, 10:32 PM
Learning to farm or play ain’t that hard to do , but keeping new players engaged is another thing , honestly do u really think it would be be worth or fun playing the game as a beginner at it’s current state in 2024 ?

I mean if that’s the question then I could totally agree
, it wouldn’t be fun whatsoever

Opflex
01-28-2024, 11:00 PM
Learning to farm or play ain’t that hard to do , but keeping new players engaged is another thing , honestly do u really think it would be be worth or fun playing the game as a beginner at it’s current state in 2024 ?

Thats what Im saying this guy think a new player is gonna download this game and put 12+hour a day playing this game this game is base on luck and how much hours you put in for a new player to get gold he/she would first need to understand the game get lucky on events looting something actually GOOD what new player is gonna enjoy dying more than actually playing the game for 12 hour plus just like catacombs for example I have friends telling me they take 10-20min to clear the map you think they enjoying that? when players are clearing the map under 2min so yeah 400m in 3 months for a new player is not possible unless they play the event for half a day daily AND get LUCKY which they will give up by that time and just quit the game unless like I said use ur mom credit card and buy them plat


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Sabiee
01-28-2024, 11:38 PM
I m just gonna say something prob diff , I can’t read all ofc but when I was a new player all what we got to farm was crates , if u wanna get the arcane ring for pvp plus more good gears ofc u had only one way is to open crates = use plats not to mention u prob not get lucky at all ..

And that was the case for so many years now look at farming every where u can go low maps and farm jewels for ex. Or chase a rare boss and sell it , getting the enchanted eye barely needed any gears etc. etc. etc.

Events are constant and lots of them r easy even easy to hit lb all u need is time and dedication
Don’t tell me new poor players can do nothing when they can do a lot with just mythic gears this game is all about challenge , dedication and hard work u know ..

I see new players blind pt officers no please help me even and has all his list of quests expecting u to do them all for him like bruh I never asked any one to help me leveling a toon u can sure manage by frequently buying pink gears till u hit a wall of hard quests like hydra orric or another hard boss for big quest then ask somebody to help u , well that’s what I do / did !

How hard to get ur gears ur vanity ur jewels and the hard work and consistency , u play for hours think of ways , marching is also a part of it u think too .

If the game is not like that trust me this would be why it will die .. not just giving new players every thing on a gold plat no hard working no thinking no trying , this would just strip this game from its real identity and fun !

If a new player doesn’t have the challenging spirit he will leave anyway imo

Unazhaenf
01-29-2024, 12:05 AM
2013 player here (check my forum account) to be honest the ones keeping this game alive are the old players that are on and off the game and are constantly grinding events for lb rewards, and yes i agree that this game isn't beginner friendly but if you have a lot of money that you can spend on this specific game then this it is easy peasy. It is indeed rough for f2p players and ive seen a lot of solid suggestions in this thread that might actually benefit the game and it's new players, thus it all boils down to the devs on how will they handle the current situation of the game.

chiiwawa
01-29-2024, 12:22 AM
I still think my 'Adopt a nab' idea would work... buy um some clothes, take them to the pet shop, give um a little gold to spend and then release then into the wild.

Itzmemohsin
01-29-2024, 02:25 AM
I m just gonna say something prob diff , I can’t read all ofc but when I was a new player all what we got to farm was crates , if u wanna get the arcane ring for pvp plus more good gears ofc u had only one way is to open crates = use plats not to mention u prob not get lucky at all ..

And that was the case for so many years now look at farming every where u can go low maps and farm jewels for ex. Or chase a rare boss and sell it , getting the enchanted eye barely needed any gears etc. etc. etc.

Events are constant and lots of them r easy even easy to hit lb all u need is time and dedication
Don’t tell me new poor players can do nothing when they can do a lot with just mythic gears this game is all about challenge , dedication and hard work u know ..

I see new players blind pt officers no please help me even and has all his list of quests expecting u to do them all for him like bruh I never asked any one to help me leveling a toon u can sure manage by frequently buying pink gears till u hit a wall of hard quests like hydra orric or another hard boss for big quest then ask somebody to help u , well that’s what I do / did !

How hard to get ur gears ur vanity ur jewels and the hard work and consistency , u play for hours think of ways , marching is also a part of it u think too .

If the game is not like that trust me this would be why it will die .. not just giving new players every thing on a gold plat no hard working no thinking no trying , this would just strip this game from its real identity and fun !

If a new player doesn’t have the challenging spirit he will leave anyway imo

No ones asking to give away everything for free , lemme try to prove u wrong :

1. At the time when you started playing the difference between the best and the low end gears was mostly only around 30% , now the difference between cheap newbie gears and best arcane gears is around around 1000% more or less , the gap between new player and old player with best gears has increased a lot since that time .

2. I know there are special events which are profitable, but most of them aren’t , u are quoting about winter event enchanted eye , it wasn’t really that easy to reach winter event plat tier as u might have seen many people were complaining on forums on how hard and time taking it was and people weren’t able to reach plat tier .

3. Don’t expect people to be playing a 11+ year old game with time and dedication, that would be just wishful thinking , coz there’s clearly much better options nowadays , I ain’t saying make everything free & giveaway everything for free .

The barrier to entry to this game is very huge at this stage , just needs to be significantly reduced so that actual new players would even consider staying active . Vanities , cosmetics, awakenings & bit better gears are still there to compete and dominate with .

Sabiee
01-29-2024, 03:18 AM
There is sooooooo many options to farm just so many not gonna try mention all
This event was hard and time consuming on all

Old players and gap what gap ? Seriously what gap , they have more experience and rightfully so and have some old vanity sets , very few have most rare not all

Comes to gears like hey u sell them every season they become cheap and u lose 90% of ur gold ( not accurately so but assuming ) new players have the option of buying that cheap , comes to op geared players they actually carry in so many maps , u actually loot arcane and can be even carried I got carried a lot myself ..

I fear u guys pressure the developers to make it too easy just to be like any other game in market , how much dedication this game needs is one big factor of its charm and uniqueness , trust me if it lost that it will die !!!

And that doesn’t mean that I don’t see that new players actually getting helped
Remember the new set of gears u get every few level when u leveling up .

u can loot all u can loot gears vanities jewels op pets , when eggzaviour comes what gears do u need to loot a valuable pet ?

How much did this 3 pieces gl set used to cost ? How much they cost now ?

There is a lot of Help happening while keeping the game still challenging and fun .


If this game is for u , u will find ways .. a lot of ways just as it is and not saying don’t make any changes just saying u sure can mange right now if u really want to ..

Itzmemohsin
01-29-2024, 04:40 AM
There is sooooooo many options to farm just so many not gonna try mention all
This event was hard and time consuming on all
Old players and gap what gap ? Seriously what gap , they have more experience and rightfully so and have some old vanity sets , very few have most rare not all

Comes to gears like hey u sell them every season they become cheap and u lose 90% of ur gold ( not accurately so but assuming ) new players have the option of buying that cheap , comes to op geared players they actually carry in so many maps , u actually loot arcane and can be even carried I got carried a lot myself ..

I fear u guys pressure the developers to make it too easy just to be like any other game in market , how much dedication this game needs is one big factor of its charm and uniqueness , trust me if it lost that it will die !!!

And that doesn’t mean that I don’t see that new players actually getting helped
Remember the new set of gears u get every few level when u leveling up .

u can loot all u can loot gears vanities jewels op pets , when eggzaviour comes what gears do u need to loot a valuable pet ?

If this game is for u , u will find ways .. a lot of ways just as it is and not saying don’t make any changes just saying u sure can mange right now if u really want to ..Well vanities are supposed to be more of an end goal so doesn't matter who has how many vanities in this discussion and you ain't really understanding what is being discussed here , we are talking about "new players" and no one asked to make gears common or anything like that .

1. Just streamline the leveling process a bit more so that no one can say they are stuck somewhere

2. Add some advancement packs for every level including the end game levels till level 85 which have manageable levels of power and decent procs , not asking for super op stuff .

3. Fix the gold loot issue somehow , either remove it [Which isn't a viable option] or maybe add 500% gold loot in the passive section of stats .

And ye I agree where there is a will there is always a way , but this ain't real life , people play games for fun not for continuous mindless grinding

Sabiee
01-29-2024, 04:51 AM
Well vanities are supposed to be more of an end goal so doesn't matter who has how many vanities in this discussion and you ain't really understanding what is being discussed here , we are talking about "new players" and no one asked to make gears common or anything like that .

1. Just streamline the leveling process a bit more so that no one can say they are stuck somewhere

2. Add some advancement packs for every level including the end game levels till level 85 which have manageable levels of power and decent procs , not asking for super op stuff .

3. Fix the gold loot issue somehow , either remove it [Which isn't a viable option] or maybe add 500% gold loot in the passive section of stats .

And ye I agree where there is a will there is always a way , but this ain't real life , people play games for fun not for continuous mindless grinding

Adding better gears for new player when hit like lvl 85 I kinda agree like adding them a mythic set and some jewels as well , well I completely agree I don’t really know what kinda gears those high Level chests contains now but I assume not mythic

so yea add some powerful gears but ofc untradable so this for sure would go to a new player or a new class u r trying is also a good way of helping but yea not tradable and not stashable so sure goes to a new toon only ..

500% gl in passive, this will go to new and old players will make more inflation so super NO for the sake of “new players” LOL

And I edited my last post mentioning the 3 pieces gl set that used to be insanely costly and look how easy to obtain it now ..

And this game pve is based on grinding , 24/7 u can ..

Sabiee
01-29-2024, 05:29 AM
And yea while u need all that work and “ grinding “ u meet ppl u need help from guildies u make friends , laugh joke tired need to sleep now , all this is the fun of it , it’s maybe one of the most sociable game ever is bcoz of that grinding and also PvP that we do miss how constant in many levels it was ..

Like bcoz of that”mindless grinding “ u do find ppl in those maps when ever u feel like go grind some u know ..

Itzmemohsin
01-29-2024, 06:31 AM
And yea while u need all that work and “ grinding “ u meet ppl u need help from guildies u make friends , laugh joke tired need to sleep now , all this is the fun of it , it’s maybe one of the most sociable game ever is bcoz of that grinding and also PvP that we do miss how constant in many levels it was ..

Like bcoz of that”mindless grinding “ u do find ppl in those maps when ever u feel like go grind some u know ..Ok fair enough that might be the way many/some people like it , I just felt like making my point because I have had some friends try to play the game a while back and they weren't really much interested to continue playing after a certain amount of time .

Some of your points were right but they could definitely do somethings to improve the new player experience .

Susanne
01-29-2024, 06:33 AM
I've been playing for years, first as a guest then made my account in 2013. In those years I've seen many changes obviously.
Starting out was difficult but because we were all new, we played the game together. There wasn't as much one-upmanship as there is nowadays. Guildhalls were primitive compared to now, no furniture and no housing and no wisps and auras that seem so necessary today. Nobody had! loadouts to switch from one good luck armour to another and if you died you started from the beginning of the map unless you had plat.
There wasn't as many events, so this made farming better. If you looted a locked crate of the grand watch it was thrilling. If you looted a pet that was exciting too.
There was no discord and and virtually no drama.
What I'm trying to say is, people want too much very quickly. It took me and other old players a very long time...years.. to get the the things we now have. On the other hand, new players to the game don't have the camaraderie that we had. Reaching the endgame is not so much difficult as boring. Some of you, I have read through the posts, say you can make millions. Maybe you do but I don't think you are brand new to AL. I've seen some new players who need advice on how to get a trading permit for instance.

I'm not disputing anything that has been said, what I object to is the disrespect shown towards people who have mental problems and the way people who have Down's Syndrome has been portrayed. Many people who have Down's syndrome have a more fulfilling life than some players here.

Good day and enjoy your time playing.

Sabiee
01-29-2024, 07:10 AM
Ok fair enough that might be the way many/some people like it , I just felt like making my point because I have had some friends try to play the game a while back and they weren't really much interested to continue playing after a certain amount of time .

Some of your points were right but they could definitely do somethings to improve the new player experience .

I completely respect that u were making ur point but any way there are levels of hardness for sure in farming there is easy there is lil bit hard and there it too hard we shouldn’t think to bring the hardest level to new player they should climb for that , looking at op players makes u ambitious just like what happen to us and later have a nice memory and even a story to tell ..

But one thing really annoying a bit is that sometimes u wanna pass some ankh or some xp lix or even lil bit gold to a new player and they can’t trade yet and I don’t even know how to make the trade possible for them and even if I knew they don’t , can they please able to trade instantly it mostly happen to real new players not the beggars .

Activista
01-29-2024, 07:53 AM
I think that the new final weapons of the game should be cultivated, the problem here is that by having 1 weapon we have it with so much power that it has super high demand and only millionaires can have them, my recommendation is that the new arcana have a level option similar to spiritual weapons, so motivating to farm them will depend on yourself, not on having 1 billion in your pocket and buying everything at once, regarding the gold loot, it should be limited so as not to see exaggerated figures in the future, I can't imagine the day we will see vanities in 100 billion or weapons that touch 1 billion and then devalue when you least expect it, and the cycle of always buying the best is repeated, ending the excitement of the game in 3 to 6 months

Opflex
01-29-2024, 09:22 AM
I've been playing for years, first as a guest then made my account in 2013. In those years I've seen many changes obviously.
Starting out was difficult but because we were all new, we played the game together. There wasn't as much one-upmanship as there is nowadays. Guildhalls were primitive compared to now, no furniture and no housing and no wisps and auras that seem so necessary today. Nobody had! loadouts to switch from one good luck armour to another and if you died you started from the beginning of the map unless you had plat.
There wasn't as many events, so this made farming better. If you looted a locked crate of the grand watch it was thrilling. If you looted a pet that was exciting too.
There was no discord and and virtually no drama.
What I'm trying to say is, people want too much very quickly. It took me and other old players a very long time...years.. to get the the things we now have. On the other hand, new players to the game don't have the camaraderie that we had. Reaching the endgame is not so much difficult as boring. Some of you, I have read through the posts, say you can make millions. Maybe you do but I don't think you are brand new to AL. I've seen some new players who need advice on how to get a trading permit for instance.

I'm not disputing anything that has been said, what I object to is the disrespect shown towards people who have mental problems and the way people who have Down's Syndrome has been portrayed. Many people who have Down's syndrome have a more fulfilling life than some players here.

Good day and enjoy your time playing.

The Down syndrome thing was that dumb clown call rarity whatever his name is bringing Down syndrome people into this conversation


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Observing
01-29-2024, 09:37 AM
Remove gold farming from the game and it will be better

Necl
01-29-2024, 09:59 AM
I have a list of suggestions that might work:

1. Stop making new items for low levels
1.1. Increase the drop of better items and existing ones that are used in those levels and even pvp.
1.2. The return of the old lockeds That will help the developers get their Salary and people get those old items well, I repeat we don't need the developers to spend effort on new items almost every new season for all levels.

2. Improve and fix portals and item drops on all maps in general so that there is a better variety of options and not just focus on gold dropping.
2.1. Add an npc buyer who buys certain items from us at a certain value and add them to the overall item drop, you can have variety this npc can have a list of items for which he will pay more gold and this list could be changed weekly, also working with the drop the portals such as Deep Marsh, Vardan Gates, Elite Arena, Shuyal Arena, that skeleton boss or all the maps in general of all Arlor.

3. Make a weekly store of limited recolored vanities that change monthly or seasonally purchasable only with plat.

4. Reduce the number of events you offer us, you are making efforts that do not make us all happy and in the midst of everything many events pass without pain or glory.
4.1. Events or festivals should be to be celebrated and enjoyed, as a company they want to make a profit and as players we want to have fun, we have to find a middle ground that works for all of us.

5. Getting married or having a selected partner in Arlor should grant us some buff when we play together, it could be something like a proc that heals us or protects us. Nothing too exaggerated or big.
5.1. This thing about couples, marriage and everything can be interesting to delve into.

ItzZix
01-29-2024, 10:06 AM
The Down syndrome thing was that dumb clown call rarity whatever his name is bringing Down syndrome people into this conversation


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mikesito
01-29-2024, 10:39 AM
+1 remove gl farming please 🙏

Necl
01-29-2024, 10:41 AM
Brainless People[emoji2961]: Remove the Gold Farm

Chads [emoji622]: Bring back the old lockeds and malison egg farm

Sabiee
01-29-2024, 11:10 AM
+1 remove gl farming please ��

If I can’t do it no body can

Leebazhafe
01-29-2024, 12:12 PM
Brainless People[emoji2961]: Remove the Gold Farm

Chads [emoji622]: Bring back the old lockeds and malison egg farmMLGA

Make Lockeds Great Again

On a real note I think their should be more ways to farm other than gold loot and jewels and events and high level maps.

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mikesito
01-29-2024, 12:45 PM
Let's be real, new players won't even bother to get to lvl 86, this game is meant to end up like Pocket legends if nothing changes.

I, myself, quitted for a reason and I've never thought of returning back since then 😅

OdenTheJust
01-29-2024, 05:13 PM
Let's be real, new players won't even bother to get to lvl 86, this game is meant to end up like Pocket legends if nothing changes.

I, myself, quitted for a reason and I've never thought of returning back since then ��

But you thought about it though, you are back looking at forums.

mikesito
01-29-2024, 05:52 PM
But you thought about it though, you are back looking at forums.
I really want to return, but I'm a f2p 😢 getting a ss will be a nightmare

chiiwawa
01-29-2024, 11:41 PM
I really want to return, but I'm a f2p 😢 getting a ss will be a nightmare

If you can---find some cheaper gear with good speed awakes Then switch to main gear when you get to your destination or integrate . Lower lvl gear works if you switch back and forth . Also buy some speed elixers. Just stock up on them before or after an event. To expensive during.

chiiwawa
01-29-2024, 11:43 PM
Oh and a pet with good speed

mikesito
01-30-2024, 01:35 AM
If you can---find some cheaper gear with good speed awakes Then switch to main gear when you get to your destination or integrate . Lower lvl gear works if you switch back and forth . Also buy some speed elixers. Just stock up on them before or after an event. To expensive during.
Yea but I don't think i can grind till lv86 with 25 inventory slots 😩

Sabiee
01-30-2024, 01:57 AM
Yea but I don't think i can grind till lv86 with 25 inventory slots ��

Literally ! 25 , Man ! This needs to be changed like right now fr

mikesito
01-30-2024, 09:32 AM
Literally ! 25 , Man ! This needs to be changed like right now fr
Idk why they even changed it

Fytheo
01-30-2024, 11:37 AM
I've been playing for years, first as a guest then made my account in 2013. In those years I've seen many changes obviously.
Starting out was difficult but because we were all new, we played the game together. There wasn't as much one-upmanship as there is nowadays. Guildhalls were primitive compared to now, no furniture and no housing and no wisps and auras that seem so necessary today. Nobody had! loadouts to switch from one good luck armour to another and if you died you started from the beginning of the map unless you had plat.
There wasn't as many events, so this made farming better. If you looted a locked crate of the grand watch it was thrilling. If you looted a pet that was exciting too.
There was no discord and and virtually no drama.
What I'm trying to say is, people want too much very quickly. It took me and other old players a very long time...years.. to get the the things we now have. On the other hand, new players to the game don't have the camaraderie that we had. Reaching the endgame is not so much difficult as boring. Some of you, I have read through the posts, say you can make millions. Maybe you do but I don't think you are brand new to AL. I've seen some new players who need advice on how to get a trading permit for instance.

I'm not disputing anything that has been said, what I object to is the disrespect shown towards people who have mental problems and the way people who have Down's Syndrome has been portrayed. Many people who have Down's syndrome have a more fulfilling life than some players here.

Good day and enjoy your time playing.

Good old times.

Guildhalls were smaller but I miss them (they were cool) :( Leveling was fun. We were actually grinding the WT and KT while listening to music.
There weren't that many pets (getting Malison, Dovabear and Breeze was my dream).

Uncountable items are in the game now and players might feel overwhelmed by the choice they have.

I have already retired. This game is but a loss of time (these days).

Stephencobear
01-30-2024, 08:22 PM
Idk why they even changed it

it’s a mystery for the ages!

263917

Sabiee
01-30-2024, 09:26 PM
it’s a mystery for the ages!

263917

Bro hahahahaha

Susanne
01-31-2024, 03:18 AM
Good old times.

Guildhalls were smaller but I miss them (they were cool) :( Leveling was fun. We were actually grinding the WT and KT while listening to music.
There weren't that many pets (getting Malison, Dovabear and Breeze was my dream).

Uncountable items are in the game now and players might feel overwhelmed by the choice they have.

I have already retired. This game is but a loss of time (these days).

Yes, all the memories you mentioned are good ones. I remember doing the Sigrun quest (the one where we had to fire the cannons in Kraag) for a chance at getting Cinder.
The most poignant memory is when the forums were full of nice people. We joked, had fun and Devs joined in too. I think Discord put an end to that, oh and the fashion for toxicity.
Justg called out "salty posts". I did like his "shifty eyes".
I am a bit of a diehard and still play but it's just to help out. I think I'll stop after this year though because not enough enthusiasm and I'm getting too old to keep up with all the young ones. The auras, wisps etc. are irritating and I've never been competitive so leaderboards are not my thing.
On my journey through the years of being an Arlorian, I have so many good memories. Yes there have been a few bad ones but the good outweigh the bad. So many nice conversations and lots of really nice people from all over the world. It breaks my heart that real life is not so good for some of them now.
P.S. to everyone here. Take care and have fun. Cheerio for now. :) 🕊️

Justanutt
01-31-2024, 10:00 AM
Bring back item stacking 😅

mrm
01-31-2024, 02:44 PM
I started playing back in 2013 active until the end of 2018 when my account got banned (fairly I would admit)

The game felt so alive, everything was fun and there was always something to do.

I installed the game a few day’s ago to catch up a bit with friends. Unfortunately i could only connect back with one. All the others have quit.

And this is based from how I am feeling playing right now. Firstly everything just feels so cluttered. And everywhere is a disco party. This 25 inventory nonsense is utter madness.

Everything in the game now really feels like it’s it has a paywall to it. If it wasn’t for a friend helping me out, I would have just pressed the uninstall button and gotten it done with.

Cities definitief feels way emptier then it use to be honestly.

And damn dis inflation take it’s toll on this game it is insane. But it does seem like there is more money going around.

In overal the game just doesn’t feel the same. And it’s depressing.

Worst part for me though is all my friends who stopped playing.
(If anyone knows anything about Derp,and blipz please let me know)

AL_LilTecca
01-31-2024, 09:17 PM
2014 player here, i share the memories of Lock Grand Crates 🥹 Malison, Snaggletooth, Warthjaw etc, even KM3 crates. Thats when AL was at its peak, i could easily spend all day farming crates or just chilling in Kraag or windmoore guild castle chopping it up with friends. I really enjoyed pvp when dang near EVERY level was active. I mean come on i pvped at Lv52… and it was a full map. I took a 2 year break from 2015-2017 and it was STILL fun. Nowadays since everything is behind a paywall, my motivation and drive for the game disappeared. Cant even farm for something a without already having 100m….. I believe when awakes got introduced in the game thats when the game started to die, but awakes were attainable at the time being around 70k NOW the most recent awakening event they were going for 500k! Them taking away looting crates was one of the biggest mistake (imo). The feel to grind isnt as rewarding when you see them fireworks and that red and gold beautiful crate, compared to a gold pile of 50k. Everything felt more rewarding, worth actually grinding for it. Let me not get started on them renigging inventory slots. Sadly this is a result of what money hunger does to a great game. I only have 1 bud that still plays with me, pvp is dead even though thats the only reason why i play. Events are ehhh, can’t farm events without cracked gear.. its just meh, now. Hopefully a dev reads this and consider something, but knowing @CINCO he is just going to wave it off like he always does.


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Notyakuza
01-31-2024, 09:51 PM
Ive been playing AL since 2014, and quitted 2019 since i had personal issues and didn’t have time to play. What made me comeback is the uniqueness and memories i made with friends that eventually still plays AL which im happy about.

Like cmon guys haha, the game is 12yrs old yall need to think for abit. Its amazing after all this years this game is still alive. The simple answer to that is because the game is so unique that you wont find any other games similar to it. If your telling (albion online) is better i both play albion and AL. Both game are dying so no need to argue XD.

Anyways its about the enjoyment and nostalgia of the game. All i can say to the players who quitted babye! see you in a couple of months in game. lastly, servers are not free.

Elitegoldwar
01-31-2024, 09:53 PM
I agree that the game is extremely difficult for new players, compared to other MMos that give you countless ways to reward you if you are a new player, I hope that Sts finds a way to attract new people, always seeing the same names at events is already old boring, maybe a more attractive loggin reward for new devices, the maps that reward you the most are the maps that if you enter random will always be empty, those who are strong never play with the weak, so newbies end up with nothing to do and so on stopping playing


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Sabiee
02-01-2024, 02:17 AM
I agree that the game is extremely difficult for new players, compared to other MMos that give you countless ways to reward you if you are a new player, I hope that Sts finds a way to attract new people, always seeing the same names at events is already old boring, maybe a more attractive loggin reward for new devices, the maps that reward you the most are the maps that if you enter random will always be empty, those who are strong never play with the weak, so newbies end up with nothing to do and so on stopping playing


Igns DrSadboy n Bdmage

Random is empty in events ? And Cata ? Random is not even empty in rahab and ektana it’s empty in woods well non is fully geared for woods yet u need a strong party so yea make a part , makes sense

In hedo or elite rahap for ex. a weak player makes the whole party falls it’s hard , they don’t party a weak player not out of cruelty it’s just like that ..

DarkedYT
02-01-2024, 03:06 AM
Their logic of gold farming , * Have all krakens , force gears , sb in order to be able to clear one part of hedo boss which is a f2p gold farming zone .* There is nothing like f2p is existence ongoing :/

Sabiee
02-01-2024, 04:31 AM
Their logic of gold farming , * Have all krakens , force gears , sb in order to be able to clear one part of hedo boss which is a f2p gold farming zone .* There is nothing like f2p is existence ongoing :/

The I cant be same is a fixed idea in lots of ppl heads , it’s some one’s else fault follows

No one showers old players with gears , like they r not spoiled by sts they fr fr sacrifice a lot I see them ppl who wants best gears not have that much vanities ..

Well they do that what do u do ?

I had my kraken one by one actually very slowly , I am rich player and I don’t do like them ppl have best gears almost once released .. see their dedication ?

U guys don’t have that u just cry and make it harder for urself by keep thinking I can’t and too hard , if u looted any vanity in twilight event here is 50m maybe 100m next event same here is another 100 looted in Cata here is more , tell me u must have kraken ? nope mythic is powerful if u can’t afford kraken u r just hating u can’t do hedo , well there gotta be that level of hardness where u need to max out but that’s not every where ! Ohhhhh goshhhhhhhhh

Leebazhafe
02-01-2024, 04:43 AM
The I cant be same is a fixed idea in lots of ppl heads , it’s some one’s else fault follows

No one showers old players with gears , like they r not spoiled by sts they fr fr sacrifice a lot I see them ppl who wants most op gears for pve its not even for pvp have a one or 2 vanities skipping buying new ones op aura , halos .. they just stay with one or 2 vanities barely any accessories for sake op and new gears once it’s released too ..

Well they do that what do u do ?

I had my kraken one by one actually very slowly , I am rich player and I don’t do like them ppl have most op gears once released
I m way richer than most of them ,see their dedication ? U guys don’t have that u just cry and make it harder for urself but keep thinking I can’t and too hard , if u looted any vanity twilight event here is 50m maybe 100m next event same here is another 100 looted in Cata here is more , tell me u must have kraken ? nope mythic is powerful if u can’t afford kraken u r just hating u can’t do hedo , well there gotta be that level of hardness where u need to max out but that’s not every where ! Ohhhhh goshhhhhhhhhSabiee I love how passionate you are about the game. But do you expect a new player to be able to buy Zaa? Let's say he works hard. What does he start off with ? Legend set? Legend gear? No gold loot, no dmg, no HP, no Armor. He's weak asf. What's the point of legend gear if it's basically useless. Even with Zaa you do no dmg in cata and newer maps. "He can run events" okay run with randoms we all use ss and one shot the bosses. I love the game as much as you do but let's be honest here. Yes it's easier to get gold but what? The decent gear (Kraken) is like 70-100m+ just for one of the items. Even if you get Kraken you're gonna need hotbars and proc then switch sets like lmao? Absolutely no chance for new players. Imagine someone who doesn't have money to spend on platinum but just wants to have fun? A lot of rich players here like yourself don't care about poor players. You just say grind hard and run with randoms when you buy plat? Smh.

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Sabiee
02-01-2024, 04:53 AM
Sabiee I love how passionate you are about the game. But do you expect a new player to be able to buy Zaa? Let's say he works hard. What does he start off with ? Legend set? Legend gear? No gold loot, no dmg, no HP, no Armor. He's weak asf. What's the point of legend gear if it's basically useless. Even with Zaa you do no dmg in cata and newer maps. "He can run events" okay run with randoms we all use ss and one shot the bosses. I love the game as much as you do but let's be honest here. Yes it's easier to get gold but what? The decent gear (Kraken) is like 70-100m+ just for one of the items. Even if you get Kraken you're gonna need hotbars and proc then switch sets like lmao? Absolutely no chance for new players. Imagine someone who doesn't have money to spend on platinum but just wants to have fun? A lot of rich players here like yourself don't care about poor players. You just say grind hard and run with randoms when you buy plat? Smh.

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Yes very new players can be helped by some powerful gears that are exclusive for them I do agree on that

Canumove
02-01-2024, 06:11 AM
You say a new player is “not gonna learn how to farm” but then say you were a new player once too and I’m sure you know how to farm, anyone with half a brain NEW TO MMOS or not will eventually learn, it’s not THAT hard, you make it seem like you have to spend thousands of dollars for 400m and to learn how to farm, I’m willing to continue proving my point to you if you start putting into perspective a new player with a brain instead of assuming the new player is 3 years old or something .

Daddy chill, honestly guys just buy plat cuz if u buy a gl set no one finna carry u so u gone need to buy good gear too so plat is the way your welcome .


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Titanium
02-01-2024, 06:17 AM
400m in 3 months doesn’t seem hard at all, maybe if you’re dumb and have no clue about anything .



Not dumb. They dont have the same business activity as you. Of course is hard.

Necl
02-01-2024, 11:51 AM
400m in 3 months doesn’t seem hard at all, maybe if you’re dumb and have no clue about anything .

I have friends who got banned or quit starting with nothing or just re downloaded the game and started from scratch, who now have billions.

In the first 3 months they were on the way up and had gold loot set and much more stuff above 400m value, I’m not gonna explain how to make 400m in 3 months it’s quite simple if you don’t know that’s not my problem, however I will say it’s very very possibleFor a New player its Hard, even if you know the game u still need to waste your own real money and lot of time, we dont talk about the game should be easy se talking about its all focused on gold loot farming and players like you that doesn't have a real life are grinding every Day of you life in the game and in each event, when in old times with less maps we used to farm eggs, crates, gear, and the event was for having fun not only to say "Look im top lb" which is Just a competition to find who has more Cash or more free time in real life, so come on freaks

Activista
02-01-2024, 12:14 PM
400m in 3 months doesn’t seem hard at all, maybe if you’re dumb and have no clue about anything .

I have friends who got banned or quit starting with nothing or just re downloaded the game and started from scratch, who now have billions.

In the first 3 months they were on the way up and had gold loot set and much more stuff above 400m value, I’m not gonna explain how to make 400m in 3 months it’s quite simple if you don’t know that’s not my problem, however I will say it’s very very possible

your point of view is based on experienced players, that is not considered "new"