Bear bug??

[Flower]

Im realizing bears are getting much overpowered at all lvls nowadays.. They can beckon stomp every race while dodging 8/10 attacks.. Im seeing many new bears owning many pros on birds and mages by criting everysingle attack and dodging almost all.. Please fix!

[Nihiliste]

Its not the bears...its the gear.

[Traebeles99]

Its not the bears...its the gear.

Ya he hit it right on target if u look at the dodge on the str sets its crazy its just overpowered easy to kite but overpowered.

[Noodleleg]

Yeah, the new end game gear has like 400 DPS for a BEAR O_o... 1h of course...

[Nihiliste]

Not the dodge either. I feel I've been dying way faster than before and dodging less. What is overpowered is the damage.

[Heroelite]

You should try pvp under level 50... mages pretty much dominate 22+ and now with the forgotten bows the archers are getting op.

[AbsolutePally]

Bears aren't op. I'll write more later.

Flower are you a mage that played last two caps?

[TANKKAAR]

Bears aren't op. I'll write more later.

Flower are you a mage that played last two caps?

My thoughts exactly....bwhahahahaha

[KingFu]

Bear has been OP and easy to play since 66 cap.

[Noodleleg]

Bear has been OP and easy to play since 66 cap.

More like since 56 cap.

[Elyseon]

More like since 56 cap.

again depends on the gear really, fury/royal sewer is pretty ez
as is using anything with a glyph mace
at 66 id say more that birds are underpowered thank anyone overpowered
71 the crusher is the main culprit for str and this scythe at 76
more than anything i think all dodge should be reduced at all levels
tbh i think 50 dodge should be the cap for bears and around 40 for birds who desperately need an armour buff of about 20 id say
tho tbh id say really mages are the easiest class to play at any level above 22
this mainly goes for playing in forest fight as ofc adding walls everywhere makes bears quite simply if you have any idea how to play bear

[Flower]

Not the dodge either. I feel I've been dying way faster than before and dodging less. What is overpowered is the damage.

Ur totally right! My bad :)

[KingFu]

More like since 56 cap.

This is a bear discussion. Get out pls.

[Waug]

Mages are op-est class actually.
Mages think bears are op, birds think mages are op, and after introduction of fb, few ..... thinks birds are op.

But ya playing as bear is the easiest job.

[Flower]

again depends on the gear really, fury/royal sewer is pretty ez
as is using anything with a glyph mace
at 66 id say more that birds are underpowered thank anyone overpowered
71 the crusher is the main culprit for str and this scythe at 76
more than anything i think all dodge should be reduced at all levels
tbh i think 50 dodge should be the cap for bears and around 40 for birds who desperately need an armour buff of about 20 id say
tho tbh id say really mages are the easiest class to play at any level above 22
this mainly goes for playing in forest fight as ofc adding walls everywhere makes bears quite simply if you have any idea how to play bear

Play as a bear nowadays is easy, under 20 auto stomp run, above 20 bekon stomp run... I reiterare any nub bear can own any pro mage nowadays... If u dont believe me add my 51 bear "jiunar" and fight me with a mage xD.. And im so nub with bear.. Example: if u pvp at 51 lvl u should know funkyread (promage, probably best 51 mage)i can easily own him with my bear with just 4 skills while he makes me 0 dmage..P.S: my bear suks a lot.. What im trying to say its that they can dodge almost all or crit all.. But both same time... Lame

[Flower]

Mages are op-est class actually.
Mages think bears are op, birds think mages are op, and after introduction of fb, few ..... thinks birds are op.
Uhmmm.. Been playin a lot and no... Only bears are op.. Example: fighting a bear 61 on my lilith.. I have
But ya playing as bear is the easiest job.
Uhmm, been playin a lot and no.. Only bears r op. Example: fighting an orlok one handed sword with my lilith mage.. He has 10 more armor than me, 50 crit and 50 armor, i got 90 crit and much more dmge.. I hit 1 of 6 skills and when i get him i hit 50s... His bekon lands and hits me 200, his stomp lands and hits 250, combo goes to another 250... Total of two bear skills 700 dmge!! While dodging 5 out of 6??? My 3 year old cousin could own any pro mage-.-

[Flower]

50 armor no.. 50 dodge* srry xD

[Flower]

Oo btw another example.. Fighting an obedience bear with my Bird with drainers armor and helm and forgotten bow.. I got 56 armor , while he had around 30 buffed, and he killed me autoing solo!! While i used every single skill... He dodged all except one, and i dodged 3 of 9... How u explain smart devs???pfff

[Flower]

56 dodge * failing again lulz

[TANKKAAR]

Uhmm, been playin a lot and no.. Only bears r op. Example: fighting an orlok one handed sword with my lilith mage.. He has 10 more armor than me, 50 crit and 50 armor, i got 90 crit and much more dmge.. I hit 1 of 6 skills and when i get him i hit 50s... His bekon lands and hits me 200, his stomp lands and hits 250, combo goes to another 250... Total of two bear skills 700 dmge!! While dodging 5 out of 6??? My 3 year old cousin could own any pro mage-.-

Stop crying.

Maybe instead of spending all your time here complaining you should be in PvP practicing how to play your class better. Tbh if you can't win on a mage then I think its safe to say you shouldn't be pvping. You said it yourself bear only has 10 more armor then you and you have twice as much crit, not to even mention the fact you have heal and a mana shield! You say you can't hit him them because they dodge then try using your debuffs...lol... sounds to me like your just looking for a class to blame for your inability to win.

Oh yeh and just a tip.... try using the edit button instead of posting 5x in a row in a desperate attempt to keep this troll thread alive.

[AbsolutePally]

Bears are tanks. Pvp is for team play ffa. It takes a team to take down a tank, just like in any other game. So attempting to solo a tank is ridiculous , and it should favor a bear if fighting 1/1. Imagine if you could solo a tank and it was easy!? Now it wouldn't be much of a tank would it. People speak of the 1h being overpowered, it's not. It doesn't have range, so if you get THAT close and become it's victim you've only youself to blame.
Bears are vulnerable, stomp and beckon are the classes only ranged attacks. Not to mention the regeneration has been cut (it may increase with crafted/bonus) so if you keep at it, it's quite easy to take a tank down. You'll need your debuffs and tbh there aren't many pro mages left in this game. Int mage wand set has been so overpowered it makes ANY mage look good. Don't believe me? Ok then answer me this. Why do int mages need as much base dodge as a bird, almost the same base armor as a bear, over 100% crit, super high reg of both mana and health, and do more damage than a bear and bird combined? Mages do 500+ dmg at high end and typically do 350 on other spells. Yes bears need dodge!
The truth is mages had everything including a shield, heal, and the ability to negate an entire combo!!! To the people that dont know what negating a combo is: it's when a bird performs a cruel blast on a mage when the shield is up, it says "absorbed" thus doing nothing. Now mages have the correct amount of dodge and armor (which should be low) but do amazing aeo damage and high heals. Mages are support class not motherships. Mages had such amazing all around stats they could have freedom of reign to walk in nuke while tanking and kill things without worrying about too much.
Simply said the excessive amount of dodge on mage sets allowed for those players to make a lot of mistakes and capitalize on their massive damage to save them further. It's easy to see these mistakes, to me it's blaringly obvious, but made average players look and feel better.
Humania sets are defiantly the noob-proof set cap, especially for mages.

To recap: bears may be op 1/1 and they should be. How can they tank multiple targets/attackers if they die 1/1 half the time just like that.
This game is favoring team play, team dynamics, and ffa. The way it should be. Honestly mages shouldn't really 1v1 unless vs another mage. 1/1s should really be vs same class, other wise your comparing apples to oranges.

[Flower]

Bears are tanks. Pvp is for team play ffa. It takes a team to take down a tank, just like in any other game. So attempting to solo a tank is ridiculous , and it should favor a bear if fighting 1/1. Imagine if you could solo a tank and it was easy!? Now it wouldn't be much of a tank would it. People speak of the 1h being overpowered, it's not. It doesn't have range, so if you get THAT close and become it's victim you've only youself to blame.
Bears are vulnerable, stomp and beckon are the classes only ranged attacks. Not to mention the regeneration has been cut (it may increase with crafted/bonus) so if you keep at it, it's quite easy to take a tank down. You'll need your debuffs and tbh there aren't many pro mages left in this game. Int mage wand set has been so overpowered it makes ANY mage look good. Don't believe me? Ok then answer me this. Why do int mages need as much base dodge as a bird, almost the same base armor as a bear, over 100% crit, super high reg of both mana and health, and do more damage than a bear and bird combined? Mages do 500+ dmg at high end and typically do 350 on other spells. Yes bears need dodge!
The truth is mages had everything including a shield, heal, and the ability to negate an entire combo!!! To the people that dont know what negating a combo is: it's when a bird performs a cruel blast on a mage when the shield is up, it says "absorbed" thus doing nothing. Now mages have the correct amount of dodge and armor (which should be low) but do amazing aeo damage and high heals. Mages are support class not motherships. Mages had such amazing all around stats they could have freedom of reign to walk in nuke while tanking and kill things without worrying about too much.
Simply said the excessive amount of dodge on mage sets allowed for those players to make a lot of mistakes and capitalize on their massive damage to save them further. It's easy to see these mistakes, to me it's blaringly obvious, but made average players look and feel better.
Humania sets are defiantly the noob-proof set cap, especially for mages.

To recap: bears may be op 1/1 and they should be. How can they tank multiple targets/attackers if they die 1/1 half the time just like that.
This game is favoring team play, team dynamics, and ffa. The way it should be. Honestly mages shouldn't really 1v1 unless vs another mage. 1/1s should really be vs same class, other wise your comparing apples to oranges.
Did i talk about humania sets at all??and yeah mages have the most crit most armor, heal,dodge.. They r much op.. Ur just forgetting the time it takes to frost a target or drain...

[Flower]

Stop crying.

Maybe instead of spending all your time here complaining you should be in PvP practicing how to play your class better. Tbh if you can't win on a mage then I think its safe to say you shouldn't be pvping. You said it yourself bear only has 10 more armor then you and you have twice as much crit, not to even mention the fact you have heal and a mana shield! You say you can't hit him them because they dodge then try using your debuffs...lol... sounds to me like your just looking for a class to blame for your inability to win.

Oh yeh and just a tip.... try using the edit button instead of posting 5x in a row in a desperate attempt to keep this troll thread alive.
First, this is my first thread, im not as freak as you but could still own ur mages ;), wanna fight my bear on ur mage?? Im up!!!. Second, im as lucky as i dont need to keep thi alive.. Ppl do it for me.. Third, no, i dont know how to do that, will u tell me how?? Fourth, u seem too nerd... Another typicall Player who can only win fights with bears?? Im up for my mage vs ur mage, birds or my bear vs ur mage.. Plz pm on me to fight and show me how worth the time u spent in front of a computer screen makin pics for ur forum comments to look more pro... I have a life ;p

[Gaunab]

Very well said by AbsolutePally.

Mages have gotten used to being little tanks with their heals, mana shield, very high armor and 20+ dodge, as well as doing insane amounts of damage. Thus why many of them are complaining now. Birds seem to get along with the fact that without some lucky dodges they are dead in one second.

Bears should be strong at 1vs1 but I disagree with that they should be able to kill ANY class in one simple combo. A tank doesn't need to kill all the time, it needs to survive. An unshielded mage cant get close to a bear, not even considering to debuff the bear on the first hand because a beckon stomp will be an instant kill if they dont dodge. Birds can as well only pray for a beckon dodge and their roots to hit which will most likely decide the outcome of the fight.
When they do dodge mages and birds they can nuke the sh*t out of that bear and all comes down to if the bear dodges enough to use beckon again or traps/stomps the opponent away before he dies.

I think the high damage on all classes ruins the game mechanics. I still can't decide if 76 or 71 was the worst cap for PvP/CTF both had their own problems.
I'm a tank bear, I used to do pulls and debuff enemies to set up kills for my teammates as well as just tank through them to get flags or keep them off squishier chars. At 71 tanking also gave quite some kills because the crusher did very high damage. I couldn't be sure that I would kill any non str char in one combo and didnt even attempt to get into a 1-1 with str chars cause I knew it would take too long to kill one on my own. I would rather sling or stomp them away calculating the directions and timing the skills carefully. Now it's just beckon stomp + a few slashes and BOOM they are dead. Or wait, they dodged, I'm dead.

Moreover, dodge isn't actually as high as it seems. A bear who has 80 dodge dodges well less then 8/10 skills (not considering debuffs). Dodges, hits and misses often occur in streaks, which makes me wonder how the system calculates them (It's definitely not by the schematics that Phys found years back).

When I look at the game mechanics at lvls like 55 or 61 and compare them to endgame, it really makes me wonder what the devs are actually thinking when they put stats on new gear...

[Flower]

Very well said by AbsolutePally.

Mages have gotten used to being little tanks with their heals, mana shield, very high armor and 20+ dodge, as well as doing insane amounts of damage. Thus why many of them are complaining now. Birds seem to get along with the fact that without some lucky dodges they are dead in one second.

Bears should be strong at 1vs1 but I disagree with that they should be able to kill ANY class in one simple combo. A tank doesn't need to kill all the time, it needs to survive. An unshielded mage cant get close to a bear, not even considering to debuff the bear on the first hand because a beckon stomp will be an instant kill if they dont dodge. Birds can as well only pray for a beckon dodge and their roots to hit which will most likely decide the outcome of the fight.
When they do dodge mages and birds they can nuke the sh*t out of that bear and all comes down to if the bear dodges enough to use beckon again or traps/stomps the opponent away before he dies.

I think the high damage on all classes ruins the game mechanics. I still can't decide if 76 or 71 was the worst cap for PvP/CTF both had their own problems.
I'm a tank bear, I used to do pulls and debuff enemies to set up kills for my teammates as well as just tank through them to get flags or keep them off squishier chars. At 71 tanking also gave quite some kills because the crusher did very high damage. I couldn't be sure that I would kill any non str char in one combo and didnt even attempt to get into a 1-1 with str chars cause I knew it would take too long to kill one on my own. I would rather sling or stomp them away calculating the directions and timing the skills carefully. Now it's just beckon stomp + a few slashes and BOOM they are dead. Or wait, they dodged, I'm dead.

Moreover, dodge isn't actually as high as it seems. A bear who has 80 dodge dodges well less then 8/10 skills (not considering debuffs). Dodges, hits and misses often occur in streaks, which makes me wonder how the system calculates them (It's definitely not by the schematics that Phys found years back).

When I look at the game mechanics at lvls like 55 or 61 and compare them to endgame, it really makes me wonder what the devs are actually thinking when they put stats on new gear...

Thats a nice comment..this is kinda what i tried to explain, but i failed i guess.. I dun complain about their dodges, i complain about their dmge..

[Sciazaratek]

Second, im as lucky as i dont need to keep thi alive..

Big Luck does not work at PvP


Ppl do it for me..

Then go to the 1v1 Alien Oasis map and watch


Plz pm on me to fight and show me how worth the time u spent in front of a computer screen makin pics for ur forum comments to look more pro...

I think you won't find differences on forums of other games


Tip: Don't give so many templates . :disturbed:

[Waug]

I dun complain about their dodges, i complain about their dmge..
you turned into the wrong direction. u complaining about their damage. whereas most of their skills r very short ranged, its ur fault if u cant kite and attact from a safe distance.

u said ur struggling against bears, u also said u have a bear which can kill anyother class easily. so y u don't pvp as bear. forget the mage. so either u still believe that mages r best (proving mages r op-est class) or u want all the advantages of bear and mages.

[Fncrazy]

Did i talk about humania sets at all??and yeah mages have the most crit most armor, heal,dodge.. They r much op.. Ur just forgetting the time it takes to frost a target or drain...

Noob :p

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[Flower]

Well its funny... Fncrazy if i dont use my bear is cuz its too easy, i wouldnt play this game more than a week if all i have to do is bekon stomp..-.- and well.. Im being called noob, crier, unskilled.. But none of u still asked to fight my bear with ur mages or just an easy mage vs mage.. If you are all that good just demonstratre it playin and not talkin sht...

[Fncrazy]

Well its funny... Fncrazy if i dont use my bear is cuz its too easy, i wouldnt play this game more than a week if all i have to do is bekon stomp..-.- and well.. Im being called noob, crier, unskilled.. But none of u still asked to fight my bear with ur mages or just an easy mage vs mage.. If you are all that good just demonstratre it playin and not talkin sht...

What is your bears name? I want to meet this mage killer. :)

[Flower]

What is your bears name? I want to meet this mage killer. :)
Jiunar bear lvl 51 flower mage lvl 51

[Dalinuel]

What is your bears name? I want to meet this mage killer. :)

Lmao...... To funny

[Superduper]

I'm using a dex Mage with flying talon set and bear kills me before I can even get shield fully casted.

[Flower]

I'm using a dex Mage with flying talon set and bear kills me before I can even get shield fully casted.
Lol they r made to survive and tank, not to instant kill like birds.. Actually they r faster than birds...xD but many peeps here critizing me... But i got no pms on my bear...neither on my "noob" mage as many says.. Still waitin peeps ;)

[MightyMicah]

Hey flower, I certainly agree with the OP. Bears have become quite overpowered indeed.

I noticed you posted somewhere that a bear was pwning your bird around 55-56. If you need help beating bears as a bird, hit me up. The obedience bears are especially easy ;)

[Elyseon]

Play as a bear nowadays is easy, under 20 auto stomp run, above 20 bekon stomp run... I reiterare any nub bear can own any pro mage nowadays... If u dont believe me add my 51 bear "jiunar" and fight me with a mage xD.. And im so nub with bear.. Example: if u pvp at 51 lvl u should know funkyread (promage, probably best 51 mage)i can easily own him with my bear with just 4 skills while he makes me 0 dmage..P.S: my bear suks a lot.. What im trying to say its that they can dodge almost all or crit all.. But both same time... Lame
because of exactly what i said
a bear can tank a combo at 51 taking no dmg as they can get like 65+ dodge with a sword
this needs a reduction as i already stated
also at 51-55 theres the obnoxious(yes i use it lol) build of royal sewer helm and armour with the weapon choice of a custom/raid/drainers recurve which still leave you with plenty of dodge as well as range for kiting and a very powerful 30% hit stacking debuff when added with hellscream, mages are going to miss almost everything
also there are those with forgotten bows which are very OP and sts doesnt care so dont even worry about that
imo royal sewers str req should be upped so you cant have a set with loads of dodge and still range and great hit
its not the bears that are OP; its dodge. i mean just think of what dodge is: a 100% damage reduction
as a 55 bear my favorite set to use is the fortified set with can be easily nuked by a mage if you dont know what you're doing

[Elyseon]

Lol they r made to survive and tank, not to instant kill like birds.. Actually they r faster than birds...xD but many peeps here critizing me... But i got no pms on my bear...neither on my "noob" mage as many says.. Still waitin peeps ;)
thats a good point
if bears armour was high enough to tank root and cruel blast
we should have to take a few slashes

[AbsolutePally]

Lol they r made to survive and tank, not to instant kill like birds.. Actually they r faster than birds...xD but many peeps here critizing me... But i got no pms on my bear...neither on my "noob" mage as many says.. Still waitin peeps ;)



Just understand roles and you'll be fine. Bears are vicious grizzlies, beware of get mauled. Birds require tact and grace, precision this class has very specific combos to take down other classes and builds. Mages need a tank around because they are support healers.

[Flower]

Lmao, just fought harangue, a peep who think can win a bear 51 on a mage.. Was losing 4-0 on a duel vs my nub bear.. Strategy?? Say go.. Lemme buff and run my buffs xD, good game :) but next time, plz serious fights, not lames ;)

[Flower]

Just understand roles and you'll be fine. Bears are vicious grizzlies, beware of get mauled. Birds require tact and grace, precision this class has very specific combos to take down other classes and builds. Mages need a tank around because they are support healers.
Then ur saying mages should never 1vs1?? Only ffa with a tank next to them?? Mehhh

[Hahahahabirdy]

Lmao, just fought harangue, a peep who think can win a bear 51 on a mage.. Was losing 4-0 on a duel vs my nub bear.. Strategy?? Say go.. Lemme buff and run my buffs xD, good game :) but next time, plz serious fights, not lames ;)

You forgot to say how it ended :s. Dont forget when it came to 4-3 and you started rushing, then you still lost 5-4. Against a dex mage too. Lol.

[cookiez]

Omfg, bears so op! With my full charmin set, if I nuke a bear, everything hits him, he is like Half way!!! It's not right at all! And the debuffs and Dodge make it like 10x worse!!!!

[cookiez]

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Stop crying.

Maybe instead of spending all your time here complaining you should be in PvP practicing how to play your class better. Tbh if you can't win on a mage then I think its safe to say you shouldn't be pvping. You said it yourself bear only has 10 more armor then you and you have twice as much crit, not to even mention the fact you have heal and a mana shield! You say you can't hit him them because they dodge then try using your debuffs...lol... sounds to me like your just looking for a class to blame for your inability to win.

Oh yeh and just a tip.... try using the edit button instead of posting 5x in a row in a desperate attempt to keep this troll thread alive.

Lmfao! Made me laugh so hard! Me and flower are same skill level, add either one of us and fight us. We'll knock your socks off fighting any class but a bear. Make a 51 MAGE, fight her, and say that again.

[cookiez]

Very well said by AbsolutePally.

Mages have gotten used to being little tanks with their heals, mana shield, very high armor and 20+ dodge, as well as doing insane amounts of damage. Thus why many of them are complaining now. Birds seem to get along with the fact that without some lucky dodges they are dead in one second.

Bears should be strong at 1vs1 but I disagree with that they should be able to kill ANY class in one simple combo. A tank doesn't need to kill all the time, it needs to survive. An unshielded mage cant get close to a bear, not even considering to debuff the bear on the first hand because a beckon stomp will be an instant kill if they dont dodge. Birds can as well only pray for a beckon dodge and their roots to hit which will most likely decide the outcome of the fight.
When they do dodge mages and birds they can nuke the sh*t out of that bear and all comes down to if the bear dodges enough to use beckon again or traps/stomps the opponent away before he dies.

I think the high damage on all classes ruins the game mechanics. I still can't decide if 76 or 71 was the worst cap for PvP/CTF both had their own problems.
I'm a tank bear, I used to do pulls and debuff enemies to set up kills for my teammates as well as just tank through them to get flags or keep them off squishier chars. At 71 tanking also gave quite some kills because the crusher did very high damage. I couldn't be sure that I would kill any non str char in one combo and didnt even attempt to get into a 1-1 with str chars cause I knew it would take too long to kill one on my own. I would rather sling or stomp them away calculating the directions and timing the skills carefully. Now it's just beckon stomp + a few slashes and BOOM they are dead. Or wait, they dodged, I'm dead.

Moreover, dodge isn't actually as high as it seems. A bear who has 80 dodge dodges well less then 8/10 skills (not considering debuffs). Dodges, hits and misses often occur in streaks, which makes me wonder how the system calculates them (It's definitely not by the schematics that Phys found years back).

When I look at the game mechanics at lvls like 55 or 61 and compare them to endgame, it really makes me wonder what the devs are actually thinking when they put stats on new gear... I wish pvp relied on skill, not gear

[AbsolutePally]

Then ur saying mages should never 1vs1?? Only ffa with a tank next to them?? Mehhh


Read my posts , I said they should only 1/1 vs same classes. This IS a ffa game (pvp)

[Elyseon]

its funny cuz at 66 cap the mages were the super beasts

[Flower]

its funny cuz at 66 cap the mages were the super beasts
Lol, basing in a single level range??

[Flower]

You forgot to say how it ended :s. Dont forget when it came to 4-3 and you started rushing, then you still lost 5-4. Against a dex mage too. Lol.
Lol?? Dude cant u hold a fair fight?? 4-0 right?? Then what did u do?? XD explain to all! Run til i got no buffs then buff and kill? Stop makin jokes plz :)

[Fncrazy]

Pro mages can beat bears. If u can't you got work to do son. :)

Never fear fn's here :p

[Flower]

Pro mages can beat bears. If u can't you got work to do son. :)

Never fear fn's here :p
U talk much sht...;) jiunar bear, flower mage repeat myself, im on right now, just pm on me and stop spammin words ;)

[Fncrazy]

U talk much sht...;) jiunar bear, flower mage repeat myself, im on right now, just pm on me and stop spammin words ;)

Lmao... Why so serious? Level up son. I don't even have a 51 I pvp with.

[Flower]

Lmao... Why so serious? Level up son. I don't even have a 51 I pvp with.
Then thats why u spam words like a nerd i see ;) these will always be 51, ill be waiting :D

[Nihiliste]

I'll make a 51 bear, one day.

[WarTornBird]

Bears are a joke at 51 if you have a bird. Blind shot = crippled bear. Unless your lucky enough to hit your beckon. Now I won't say much cause I don't want to listen to you babble on about how pro you "think" you are. I frankly just won't waste my time with you. But in birds, I've got about 7 or 8k kills total. Now to some yea that's whatever, nothing impressive. With those numbers comes a little bit of know how. I'm not saying I'm the best, cause god knows I aint close, but I am a pretty talented bird at 55 & 56. As for being a mage, Inukem was pretty successful against bears, I just had to keep at a 10-12m distance and they could hurt me. Just had to time some stuff right and hope for the best, pvp is all luck based any how.

[Flower]

Bears are a joke at 51 if you have a bird. Blind shot = crippled bear. Unless your lucky enough to hit your beckon. Now I won't say much cause I don't want to listen to you babble on about how pro you "think" you are. I frankly just won't waste my time with you. But in birds, I've got about 7 or 8k kills total. Now to some yea that's whatever, nothing impressive. With those numbers comes a little bit of know how. I'm not saying I'm the best, cause god knows I aint close, but I am a pretty talented bird at 55 & 56. As for being a mage, Inukem was pretty successful against bears, I just had to keep at a 10-12m distance and they could hurt me. Just had to time some stuff right and hope for the best, pvp is all luck based any how.
Anotherone... First) They prolly dodge ur blind.. Most of the times they do. Second) Ur saying u can easily keep em at 12 m so ur a good kiter.. Think im not? Pm my mage flower 51, kite me then ill accept ur comment.. Til then.. Same as said til now.. Blablabla and i got no pms.. ( being online last 3 or 4 hours, ik too freak lol)

[WarTornBird]

Bears are a joke at 51 if you have a bird. Blind shot = crippled bear. Unless your lucky enough to hit your beckon. Now I won't say much cause I don't want to listen to you babble on about how pro you "think" you are. I frankly just won't waste my time with you. But in birds, I've got about 7 or 8k kills total. Now to some yea that's whatever, nothing impressive. With those numbers comes a little bit of know how. I'm not saying I'm the best, cause god knows I aint close, but I am a pretty talented bird at 55 & 56. As for being a mage, Inukem was pretty successful against bears, I just had to keep at a 10-12m distance and they could hurt me. Just had to time some stuff right and hope for the best, pvp is all luck based any how.
Anotherone... First) They prolly dodge ur blind.. Most of the times they do. Second) Ur saying u can easily keep em at 12 m so ur a good kiter.. Think im not? Pm my mage flower 51, kite me then ill accept ur comment.. Til then.. Same as said til now.. Blablabla and i got no pms.. ( being online last 3 or 4 hours, ik too freak lol)

My blind never had issues. It's like a forgotten bow proc, whether or not there is damage the proc still blinds regardless of being dodged. And second off it says 10-12m and thirdly, I said nothing about kiting at 12m being easy. Before you try and portray yourself as a god at 51 pvp, you should learn to read a little first and stop putting words into peoples mouth. You're very easy bait in this community and I'm sorry for you. I don't even have a 51. So when you level up, to 61 with my mage I will gladly kill you.

[AbsolutePally]

All i'm hearing from you now is that you're on a high horse and have a huge inflated ego.
So what is it exactly you're trying to do here? Brag, ask for attention, get competition?

Maybe enter a tournament, win something. Until then you're just a pub troll.

[Zeus]

Lol?? Dude cant u hold a fair fight?? 4-0 right?? Then what did u do?? XD explain to all! Run til i got no buffs then buff and kill? Stop makin jokes plz :)

Do realize that you're speaking to someone who won 3+ tournaments against very skilled players. There are times when your own ego makes you look like a fool, this is one of them.

In the words of Advicatus, "Know your place." I don't mean this to sound offensive, but it sounds like you do not understand the PvP system and therefore are raging at your own ignorance. You cannot argue against someone with years of proven PvP experience over you.

[Superduper]

This thread should be called "Bear Hug."

[WarTornBird]

Lol?? Dude cant u hold a fair fight?? 4-0 right?? Then what did u do?? XD explain to all! Run til i got no buffs then buff and kill? Stop makin jokes plz :)

Do realize that you're speaking to someone who won 3+ tournaments against very skilled players. There are times when your own ego makes you look like a fool, this is one of them.

In the words of Advicatus, "Know your place." I don't mean this to sound offensive, but it sounds like you do not understand the PvP system and therefore are raging at your own ignorance. You cannot argue against someone with years of proven PvP experience over you.

My gosh Parth, how can you be so rude being so polite <3 I love you buddeh xD

[Fncrazy]

This thread should be called "Bear Hug."

LmFNao

[Flower]

All i'm hearing from you now is that you're on a high horse and have a huge inflated ego.
So what is it exactly you're trying to do here? Brag, ask for attention, get competition?

Maybe enter a tournament, win something. Until then you're just a pub troll.
Mehh, i just dont like hypocrites.. Im trying to know if im the only one who thinks like this, and i see im not, and ur just trollin like many others. And enter a tournament and win it?? Thats what im talking about, hypocrites, were not you saying before that a mage isnt for 1 vs 1?? How then win a tournament?? Pff..

[WarTornBird]

All i'm hearing from you now is that you're on a high horse and have a huge inflated ego.
So what is it exactly you're trying to do here? Brag, ask for attention, get competition?

Maybe enter a tournament, win something. Until then you're just a pub troll.
Mehh, i just dont like hypocrites.. Im trying to know if im the only one who thinks like this, and i see im not, and ur just trollin like many others. And enter a tournament and win it?? Thats what im talking about, hypocrites, were not you saying before that a mage isnt for 1 vs 1?? How then win a tournament?? Pff..

Hypocrite? He said NOTHING about a mage winning a tournament. Your attempt at trolling the Senior members of this community is hilarious. As I said before, such easy bait for a community that bites hard.

[Flower]

Do realize that you're speaking to someone who won 3+ tournaments against very skilled players. There are times when your own ego makes you look like a fool, this is one of them.

In the words of Advicatus, "Know your place." I don't mean this to sound offensive, but it sounds like you do not understand the PvP system and therefore are raging at your own ignorance. You cannot argue against someone with years of proven PvP experience over you. Apollo, he may have won 3+ tournaments, but losing 4-0 in a duel, as soon as what he does, is saying go, cast a defense blessing to bluff while i buff too, then run away ( no exaggerating ) for 30 seconds, cast dmge buff and shield and kill me, because he realize he cant hold a fair fight, its all said.. Probably yeh i was so stupid to keep playin that silly game and lost 5-4 -.-, but he perfectly knows how it was. So this fact, that a pro player like him lost 4-0 even kiting me and playing fair against me and then had to run a nub bear buffs to win, is proving that my thread isnt that wrong..

[Flower]

Hypocrite? He said NOTHING about a mage winning a tournament. Your attempt at trolling the Senior members of this community is hilarious. As I said before, such easy bait for a community that bites hard.

Isnt he saying get in a tournament and win it! Til then ur just a pub troll! ??? He didnt say it?? Meh, yes HYPOCRITES like YOU!!! Just read!

[WarTornBird]

It's obvious your not from America. Your hipocracy knows no bounds. (quote from a movie, cookies to you if you know)
Quite frankly, you should quit while your behind. Off to bed.

[AbsolutePally]

Do realize that you're speaking to someone who won 3+ tournaments against very skilled players. There are times when your own ego makes you look like a fool, this is one of them.

In the words of Advicatus, "Know your place." I don't mean this to sound offensive, but it sounds like you do not understand the PvP system and therefore are raging at your own ignorance. You cannot argue against someone with years of proven PvP experience over you.


Hall of fame for 5 :)

[Elyseon]

Apollo, he may have won 3+ tournaments, but losing 4-0 in a duel, as soon as what he does, is saying go, cast a defense blessing to bluff while i buff too, then run away ( no exaggerating ) for 30 seconds, cast dmge buff and shield and kill me, because he realize he cant hold a fair fight, its all said.. Probably yeh i was so stupid to keep playin that silly game and lost 5-4 -.-, but he perfectly knows how it was. So this fact, that a pro player like him lost 4-0 even kiting me and playing fair against me and then had to run a nub bear buffs to win, is proving that my thread isnt that wrong..
maybe ur bear shud be more pro and run when he buffed O.o derp

[Flower]

maybe ur bear shud be more pro and run when he buffed O.o derp
Lmao ok, if you just dont wanna accept it, and like to be hypocrite, good for ya ;)

[Flower]

It's obvious your not from America. Your hipocracy knows no bounds. (quote from a movie, cookies to you if you know)
Quite frankly, you should quit while your behind. Off to bed.
Im not from america, but my english isnt that bad, anyways my spanish, french and german its great, u prefer to discuss in spanish?? Calling me ignorant?? Go to school learn some more lenguages and not just ur native, then come talk to me back ;)

[WarTornBird]

Lol, ill leave you as bait. I don't know who your trying to impress with your "pro" bear and "1337" Language speaking skills. I wasn't saying you were the devil because you weren't American, hell I wasn't disrespecting you for it.

[Flower]

Lol, ill leave you as bait. I don't know who your trying to impress with your "pro" bear and "1337" Language speaking skills. I wasn't saying you were the devil because you weren't American, hell I wasn't disrespecting you for it.
U look like u dont understand me.. Pro bear?? When did i say that?? I just said bear's damage is overpowered.. Impress?? Im not trying to impress but if all u can say is: its obvious ur not american and ur ignorace know no bounds.. I cant do other thing than laugh like crazy at home! XD calling me ignorant?? Again hahahahahahahaha

[Zeus]

Apollo, he may have won 3+ tournaments, but losing 4-0 in a duel, as soon as what he does, is saying go, cast a defense blessing to bluff while i buff too, then run away ( no exaggerating ) for 30 seconds, cast dmge buff and shield and kill me, because he realize he cant hold a fair fight, its all said.. Probably yeh i was so stupid to keep playin that silly game and lost 5-4 -.-, but he perfectly knows how it was. So this fact, that a pro player like him lost 4-0 even kiting me and playing fair against me and then had to run a nub bear buffs to win, is proving that my thread isnt that wrong..

Are you telling me that he tricked you? No way! He was smarter in his PvP tactics than you were, get used to it.

A duel goes to 10, I have never heard of a 4-0 duel.

There are no rules in PvP, so get used to playing dirty if you need to.

[Elyseon]

Lmao ok, if you just dont wanna accept it, and like to be hypocrite, good for ya ;)
im sorry what was hypocritical about that?
you obviously have some secret deep knowledge

[Elyseon]

A duel goes to 10, I have never heard of a 4-0 duel.
the 1v1 desert map

[Nick41324]

Im realizing bears are getting much overpowered at all lvls nowadays.. They can beckon stomp every race while dodging 8/10 attacks.. Im seeing many new bears owning many pros on birds and mages by criting everysingle attack and dodging almost all.. Please fix!
if you are owning pro's on your new bear, that must mean your bear is a mega pro. Congrats on killing the pro's.

Out of curiosity, which lvl of pvp is this your talking about.

Edit: BTW, At 56 pvp, any class can kill any class with the right gear.

[WarTornBird]

Lol, ill leave you as bait. I don't know who your trying to impress with your "pro" bear and "1337" Language speaking skills. I wasn't saying you were the devil because you weren't American, hell I wasn't disrespecting you for it.
U look like u dont understand me.. Pro bear?? When did i say that?? I just said bear's damage is overpowered.. Impress?? Im not trying to impress but if all u can say is: its obvious ur not american and ur ignorace know no bounds.. I cant do other thing than laugh like crazy at home! XD calling me ignorant?? Again hahahahahahahaha

If you look up. I didn't say anything about ignorance, you even quoted me, stop trying to make me look bad by changing the words in my post. Annnnd I'm done here.

[Elyseon]

Edit: BTW, At 56 pvp, any class can kill any class with a glyph mace.
fixed ;D we all know its OP

[MightyMicah]

Please guys, be more hateful to each other over a video game...


Jk, BUT DON'T MAKE ME LEAVE MY VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER JUST TO COME BREAK UP THIS ENERMOUS FIGHT.

[Nihiliste]

Ehem.

[Flower]

Are you telling me that he tricked you? No way! He was smarter in his PvP tactics than you were, get used to it.

A duel goes to 10, I have never heard of a 4-0 duel.

There are no rules in PvP, so get used to playing dirty if you need to.
Lol.. Whatever then ;) have fun killing unbuffed chars!! Thats so pro

[Flower]

if you are owning pro's on your new bear, that must mean your bear is a mega pro. Congrats on killing the pro's.

Out of curiosity, which lvl of pvp is this your talking about.

Edit: BTW, At 56 pvp, any class can kill any class with the right gear.

51. 56 is way different.

[Roberto077]

I don't think bears are too op if you can avoid the beckon and stomp. Otherwise your dead

[MightyMicah]

I don't think bears are too op if you can avoid the beckon and stomp. Otherwise your dead

Spoken like a true pvper! IMO bears are the worst class at 56. If you took all of the most talented pvpers from each class and put them against each other one at a time, I believe both the Mage and the bird would destroy the bear. The only reasons bears seem op is because no one knows their weakness or how to beat them.

[cookiez]

Bears are a joke at 51 if you have a bird. Blind shot = crippled bear. Unless your lucky enough to hit your beckon. Now I won't say much cause I don't want to listen to you babble on about how pro you "think" you are. I frankly just won't waste my time with you. But in birds, I've got about 7 or 8k kills total. Now to some yea that's whatever, nothing impressive. With those numbers comes a little bit of know how. I'm not saying I'm the best, cause god knows I aint close, but I am a pretty talented bird at 55 & 56. As for being a mage, Inukem was pretty successful against bears, I just had to keep at a 10-12m distance and they could hurt me. Just had to time some stuff right and hope for the best, pvp is all luck based any how.

Lol^^^Obviously you've never fought bears 51+

You said you blind shot them? What 1/7 times? My 51 bear has over 63 Dodge, try blinding me

And A MAGE CANT Kit a bear, they don't have the Dodge and they just get beckoned and stunned.

[cookiez]

Pro mages can beat bears. If u can't you got work to do son. :)

Never fear fn's here :p

Lol, I see He's never 51 pvped flower:) I'd like to see him try

[cookiez]

Out of curiosity, which lvl of pvp is this your talking about.

Edit: BTW, At 56 pvp, any class can kill any class with the right gear.

LOL! Take a charmin MAGE, or whatever and bear a pro Strongman or bt bear, haha I'd like to see that

[Flower]

Spoken like a true pvper! IMO bears are the worst class at 56. If you took all of the most talented pvpers from each class and put them against each other one at a time, I believe both the Mage and the bird would destroy the bear. The only reasons bears seem op is because no one knows their weakness or how to beat them.
Uhmm micah.. At lvl 51? Id really love to see that :)

[MightyMicah]

Uhmm micah.. At lvl 51? Id really love to see that :)

"Worst class at 56" ;)

[Flower]

"Worst class at 56" ;)

Yeah, im saying id like to see that at 51 :)

[MightyMicah]

Yeah, im saying id like to see that at 51 :)

Oh, I gotcha! Honestly, at 51 I'd say it's very balanced. Birds>Bears>Mages>Birds. :-)