PVP farm for aps

[Grimgz]

Hi, can I get ban if I farm PVP kills for aps with my friend? PVP is hard for me and I want to increase my aps but I'm afraid if we got banned from doing this and I saw that a lot of players get banned without knowing that they did something wrong..

[Greazemk]

That's totally fine.

[Stephencobear]

i wouldn’t be sure of that

sts has gone back & forth on that topic several times over the years

i’ve seen a dev saying one thing and Rem contradict what they said

“it’s discouraged, but ok “, then, “we reserve the right to ban for any reason” flip flop flip flop

[Candylicks]

i wouldn’t be sure of that

sts has gone back & forth on that topic several times over the years

i’ve seen a dev saying one thing and Rem contradict what they said

“it’s discouraged, but ok “, then, “we reserve the right to ban for any reason” flip flop flip flop


I said this before that the remaining PvP kill counter AP should be removed. PvP is dead especially at end game.

Why leave an AP that does not reflect the current game play?

[Xinghvn]

Could a dev confirm this please? I really want the warmonger title but with the current state of pvp its impossible to do it legitimately.

[Greazemk]

People have been doing it since the introduction of Seasonal Leaderboards and Hardcore for APs, you'll totally be fine.

[capeo]

After it took me years to FIGHT for 10k kills I say no

[Naaabmage]

I also fought for all my 10k kills on my main mage but I think these aps should be removed....pvp isn't active enough to have these aps anymore

[Voorge]

+1 for removing achievement points from that AP, like devs did with flags

[capeo]

Well, I don't want to farm 1b gold or collect 500 pets so let's remove that to ....

I think it should be the opposite. Take the ap away from all the people running around with 10k kills and 0 deaths.

[Candylicks]

Well, I don't want to farm 1b gold or collect 500 pets so let's remove that to ....

I think it should be the opposite. Take the ap away from all the people running around with 10k kills and 0 deaths.

It’s not the same thing.

The AP is no longer applicable to current game play because PvP is dead.

You can get the gold and pet AP with some work.

PvP you either cannot do or you farm dummies, which is not the point of APs.

Remove it please.

[capeo]

Pvp is far from dead. Look at all the twink brackets. I see excuses all the time. To expensive, no reward, no reason to pvp when you can dummy farm. Back when I started pvp most people geared up and fought for the aps. They would run into the buzz saw that was purge to. I don't blame anyone for taking the easy road and dummy farming aps because it's an option. One of the few aps you can cheat and get. If you couldn't more people would be fighting in pvp, fairly simple equation. Pvp gear is less expensive then high end speed gear or gold loot gear. Honestly the only people that have a legitimate excuse not to pvp are the ones with high ping. With similarly geared and skilled players ping is the deciding factor and high ping vs low ping is unbalanced

So to sum up, you can get the ap by fighting for it if you chose to invest the time and gold into it. Just like the aps I don't want to do.

This mini rant is just my opinion. People that want to pvp still do and its not for the ap. I would love to see it more active at end game but doubt it ever will be, especially with the option to avoid it. Just us crazy people holding on to what we enjoy the most from the game and that's good enough for me.

[Aayushh007]

Pvp is far from dead. Look at all the twink brackets. I see excuses all the time. To expensive, no reward, no reason to pvp when you can dummy farm. Back when I started pvp most people geared up and fought for the aps. They would run into the buzz saw that was purge to. I don't blame anyone for taking the easy road and dummy farming aps because it's an option. One of the few aps you can cheat and get. If you couldn't more people would be fighting in pvp, fairly simple equation. Pvp gear is less expensive then high end speed gear or gold loot gear. Honestly the only people that have a legitimate excuse not to pvp are the ones with high ping. With similarly geared and skilled players ping is the deciding factor and high ping vs low ping is unbalanced

So to sum up, you can get the ap by fighting for it if you chose to invest the time and gold into it. Just like the aps I don't want to do.

This mini rant is just my opinion. People that want to pvp still do and its not for the ap. I would love to see it more active at end game but doubt it ever will be, especially with the option to avoid it. Just us crazy people holding on to what we enjoy the most from the game and that's good enough for me.People avoid endgame pvp cuz it's all proc and gear based,
PvP always been active
Just not at endgame
Reason is same, People want to keep Pvp old style with less procs.
13 and 76 PvP bracelet are very active because of less procs in PvP
And So Far 76 PVP became Hella active
If STS wants endgame PvP to revive there should be a *NO Awake*(TDM)
Where People can use same gears, just the awakes on it won't matter
Many people also don't PVP cuz they lack Maxed gears compared to other people.
But if it gets balanced, im pretty sure Endgame would become active
Maybe a Mini PvP event? Where awakes are disabled @asommers
See how's the outcome of it, and what everyone says about it
If it gets a good response could be implemented permanently.
But I would like to see Endgame PvP get active If it could , cheers.

[Voorge]

Well, I don't want to farm 1b gold or collect 500 pets so let's remove that to ....

I think it should be the opposite. Take the ap away from all the people running around with 10k kills and 0 deaths.

It’s not about being stubborn for the sake of proving a point (which you do atm)
I know a friend who got banned only because he farmed pvp same as everyone on current relevant lbs (by killing dummies)
AP can stay and it will prove whatever point you’re trying to make but achievement points should be removed because this mode is dead and no matter what you say this is how it works in AL.


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[Voorge]

People avoid endgame pvp cuz it's all proc and gear based,
PvP always been active
Just not at endgame
Reason is same, People want to keep Pvp old style with less procs.
13 and 76 PvP bracelet are very active because of less procs in PvP
And So Far 76 PVP became Hella active
If STS wants endgame PvP to revive there should be a *NO Awake*(TDM)
Where People can use same gears, just the awakes on it won't matter
Many people also don't PVP cuz they lack Maxed gears compared to other people.
But if it gets balanced, im pretty sure Endgame would become active
Maybe a Mini PvP event? Where awakes are disabled @asommers
See how's the outcome of it, and what everyone says about it
If it gets a good response could be implemented permanently.
But I would like to see Endgame PvP get active If it could , cheers.

Thanks for proving my point, endgame mains can’t get that aps just by playing pvp normally


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[Candylicks]

Pvp is far from dead. Look at all the twink brackets. I see excuses all the time. To expensive, no reward, no reason to pvp when you can dummy farm. Back when I started pvp most people geared up and fought for the aps. They would run into the buzz saw that was purge to. I don't blame anyone for taking the easy road and dummy farming aps because it's an option. One of the few aps you can cheat and get. If you couldn't more people would be fighting in pvp, fairly simple equation. Pvp gear is less expensive then high end speed gear or gold loot gear. Honestly the only people that have a legitimate excuse not to pvp are the ones with high ping. With similarly geared and skilled players ping is the deciding factor and high ping vs low ping is unbalanced

So to sum up, you can get the ap by fighting for it if you chose to invest the time and gold into it. Just like the aps I don't want to do.

This mini rant is just my opinion. People that want to pvp still do and its not for the ap. I would love to see it more active at end game but doubt it ever will be, especially with the option to avoid it. Just us crazy people holding on to what we enjoy the most from the game and that's good enough for me.

That’s right. On a twink. Exactly.


There is no end game PvP. People who complete APs are max lvl players. We cannot suddenly revert to being a twink and play PvP for the AP.

Thanks for accurately summarizing the core of the problem.


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[capeo]

There is pvp at end game. Out side of events we clash daily but yes it's a small group. Also, being scared of procs is funny to me. Try surviving when a rogue can do hundreds of thousands of damage. Thats what we do. One hits through everything all over the place and by pretty much every class. Is fast and crazy. I like it. Even if it's funny when a war can 1 tap a war with jug. It takes skill and a ton of gear to fight at end game. Again, I like it.

[Azitraozuci]

There is pvp at end game. Out side of events we clash daily but yes it's a small group. Also, being scared of procs is funny to me. Try surviving when a rogue can do hundreds of thousands of damage. Thats what we do. One hits through everything all over the place and by pretty much every class. Is fast and crazy. I like it. Even if it's funny when a war can 1 tap a war with jug. It takes skill and a ton of gear to fight at end game. Again, I like it.

I myself play hc, at endgame I have zero chance vsing decent pvper to achieve any kills.
So people like myself have to miss out and achieving pvp aps due to the huge difference in availability.
Pvp stats are meaningless for people who want the aps. Makes it easier to tell who pvp and who doesn't .
It doesn't affect you that people run it for aps. You have the stats to prove you are a pvper.

[capeo]

Yeah, hc is a much different story. I cant even image how hc would compete. Maybe have a hc zone? Or they can keep dummy farming. It doesn't matter to me.

[recilencia123]

maybe if devs do an event twice a year or something like that about pvp would be great.


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[Stephencobear]

Well this thread has shifted from potential illegality of dummy farming for apps to - should some apps be eliminated-

One would be drawn to notice that, once again,
Sts is avoiding the question

[capeo]

Well, there is a sticky thread about it. There are tons of old threads about it. Sts has said its against the rules but they aren't going to do anything about it unless it's seriously abused or they randomly want to. Like when people where boosting for guild rank. Most of the people with the ap dummy farmed the kills. So, yes it's a risk of some kind but in general people get away with it. Until sts changes their mind.

[Stephencobear]

Well, there is a sticky thread about it. There are tons of old threads about it. Sts has said its against the rules but they aren't going to do anything about it unless it's seriously abused or they randomly want to. Like when people where boosting for guild rank. Most of the people with the ap dummy farmed the kills. So, yes it's a risk of some kind but in general people get away with it. Until sts changes their mind.

Was
There was a sticky thread and now they flip flop again

They have both said it’s illegal AND it’s not, AND they may ban for any reason & not specifically say why

Being that their moderator has contradicted the devs on forums, I wish they would just be clear
Idc either way it just annoys me tbh

[capeo]

I see, they took it down. I suggest everyone comes and fights for it just to be safe;)

[ThomCat]

Yes, getting straight answers would be great.

[Iccyprincess]

+1000 to remove pvp apps since no more pvp it’s useless specially in the hc mode

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