Can anybody explain this?

[ArcAL]

Not only does juggernaut provide immortality for 8 seconds, but star beast haste shortens the CD time, so these tanks are basically immortal.

Not only are they immortal, but no tank should be able to 1 axe any rogue or mage.

All these star beast procs should be limited to 10-15% in PvP.

This is absolutely outrageous.

Can any of the game developers explain this?

Watch video please thanks.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240601/d5e3b90b304abbff0f611917210dbaba.jpg

https://youtu.be/eT0Xan5OiPA?si=nPviGCxgbb9K1L3a

https://youtu.be/8onvKThr018?si=-pGZYZl7IocvUCfh

https://youtu.be/IkbCmRmz8Uk?si=ZtF60TDR98PIiw23


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[marioo]

Not only does juggernaut provide immortality for 8 seconds, but star beast haste shortens the CD time, so these tanks are basically immortal.

Not only are they immortal, but no tank should be able to 1 axe any rogue or mage.

All these star beast procs should be limited to 10-15% in PvP.

This is absolutely outrageous.

Can any of the game developers explain this?

Watch video please thanks.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240601/d5e3b90b304abbff0f611917210dbaba.jpg

https://youtu.be/eT0Xan5OiPA?si=nPviGCxgbb9K1L3a

https://youtu.be/8onvKThr018?si=-pGZYZl7IocvUCfh


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Ahahha bro complaining cuz he can’t 1 shot warriors now


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[Rottings]

So nerf wars so you can grow your kd, as you fight one of the best tanks in game, sounds legit

[ArcAL]

So nerf wars so you can grow your kd, as you fight one of the best tanks in game, sounds legit

Best tank at what? Charging 1 skill? I have maxed gear.


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[ArcAL]

Ahahha bro complaining cuz he can’t 1 shot warriors now


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I’m asking for all star beast procs limited to 10-15% of initial proc. That includes rogues , mages and tanks.


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[Clikaa]

In all honestly I think tanks should be able to deal more damage , if you’re losing it’s because skill diff tbh [emoji42], just stay behind rocks and snipe ez , buff tanks sts please


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[presp600]

“Tank”


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[capeo]

Pretty much every rogue in tdm can nuke me through jug. In fact jug alone only stops stuns, you sill die. A lot. In fact the new nature damage 1 taps through jug. No procs or aimed. Just razor kills through jug. I'll give you the same advise I gave a war that was struggling in pvp. Its usually a me problem not a problem with the game. When rogues could 1 tap me through jug and glow shield I complained. Later I found that I needed to make adjustments. When a mid mage could kill a max tank I complained but later found I needed to make adjustments. It's a new play mode and that requires different things. Different strategies. We have good rogues that fight in tdm right now. They can hold thier own against anyone if not out right win. That being said they don't rush 3 of the strongest wars in tdm trying to sneak a kill in. That's not good for survival either.

[Clikaa]

Come lvl 13 brokies


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[Rottings]

seeing your new vid + others, skill issue indeed, look at your timing lol

[Sucr]

In all honestly I think tanks should be able to deal more damage , if you’re losing it’s because skill diff tbh [emoji42], just stay behind rocks and snipe ez , buff tanks sts please


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This has to be a troll comment LOL
This is an mmorpg game, a tank/warrior is for TANKING, a rogue/assassin character is always the main DPS character.

[Sucr]

seeing your new vid + others, skill issue indeed, look at your timing lol

You're 100% a warrior trying to somehow manipulate people into thinking it's balanced.
This is the most unbalanced zone AL has ever created.

It seems to me that no thought went into balancing cap gears for PvP.

AL seriously need to have a thorough look at these videos and even test the gears themselves, because the entire zone is literally unplayable right now. Especially since warriors are immortal. - ty :)

[Sucr]

“Tank”


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Yes, "Tank"

267196

But for AL, the tank doesn't only absorb the damage. Instead the tank is immortal and 1 hits everything. LOL wheres the balance?????? Please tell me.

[Squlo]

You know even reflect recently got nerfed cause of dps characters asked so

Literally watched the first vid and got my idea already keep rushing open to ur opponent that's just skill issue...

[Sucr]

You know even reflect recently got nerfed cause of dps characters asked so

Literally watched the first vid and got my idea already keep rushing open to ur opponent that's just skill issue...

What are you talking about? Dying to an immortal tank that 1 hits everything is not a "skill issue", it is a clear character diff and resembles how op tanks actually are.
But of course you have a warrior pfp on forums. You are 100% biased and won't see sense, just like the rest of the warriors who think it's normal for a tank to be this overpowered. :)

[Rottings]

Do you not pvp or can you just not see his aa timing or movement, he doesnt play like a normal rogue, its definitely a skill issue lol i play all clsses btw. Not to mention, he wants to be able to 1 tap some of the best warriors in game(both wars in the videos)? Lmao hows that logical, please inform me

[Sucr]

Do you not pvp or can you just not see his aa timing or movement, he doesnt play like a normal rogue, its definitely a skill issue lol i play all clsses btw. Not to mention, he wants to be able to 1 tap some of the best warriors in game(both wars in the videos)? Lmao hows that logical, please inform me

I've played cap zone for a while now, so yes lol I know how badly unbalanced this zone is.
Also he's not showcasing that he wants to '1 tap a warrior', he's showcasing how insanely unbalanced the damage and procs are..?

(idk where you got your info from, but he didn't complain about not 1 hitting a warrior... anywhere? LOL)

[Rottings]

Do you see his dex? He claims to be maxed, but hes not, those wars are pretty maxed out let him post a vid of him vsing a war with 3.4k str instead of 4k+

[Squlo]

What are you talking about? Dying to an immortal tank that 1 hits everything is not a "skill issue", it is a clear character diff and resembles how op tanks actually are.
But of course you have a warrior pfp on forums. You are 100% biased and won't see sense, just like the rest of the warriors who think it's normal for a tank to be this overpowered. :)

Nah unlike you I am an actual pvp player that is aware of skill/aa timings and what skill does what exactly (in order to counter my opponent) skill cycling etc etc and what I see on the video is a rog rushing open to a tank and expecting to not die

Pls stick to pve and dont bother with pvp ty

[presp600]

Yes, "Tank"

267196

But for AL, the tank doesn't only absorb the damage. Instead the tank is immortal and 1 hits everything. LOL wheres the balance?????? Please tell me.

“Tank”


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[recilencia123]

rip ur one shot man xD


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[Sucr]

Nah unlike you I am an actual pvp player that is aware of skill/aa timings and what skill does what exactly (in order to counter my opponent) skill cycling etc etc and what I see on the video is a rog rushing open to a tank and expecting to not die

Pls stick to pve and dont bother with pvp ty

HAHAHAHA that's hilarious considering I've pvped on and off since I started playing in 2014. You don't know me, so don't act like you do.

If you're claiming to be the a so called 'actual pvper' you would understand how unbalanced it is compared to all the other popular zones.

Like I said, you're a biast warrior whose ego is built around a broken character. Either you haven't played 86 zone to witness how horrendous it is, or you're just a little stoopid. I can't honestly tell...


That's all I'll say, egostistical warriors are not enjoyable :)))


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[Squlo]

HAHAHAHA that's hilarious considering I've pvped on and off since I started playing in 2014. You don't know me, so don't act like you do.

If you're claiming to be the a so called 'actual pvper' you would understand how stupid 86 zone is and how unbalanced it is compared to all the other popular zones.

Like I said, you're a biast warrior whose ego is built around a broken character. Either you haven't played 86 zone to witness how horrendous it is, or you're just a little stoopid. I can't honestly tell...


That's all I'll say, egostistical warriors are not enjoyable :)))


+1 for this thread

I have never said pvp is fun or anything at this point. We for sure need a stat squish and if you are wondering we get used to rogs one shotting tanks since level 61 cap already?

Either get used to it and try to adapt it while playing or stop complaining about it cause it's just a skill issue.

Also I can give you some tips for your gameplay and a proper build to survive in pvp cause I don't think you are aware of those either. Seems like you playing pvp since 2014 randomly.

[Americanarmy]

HAHAHAHA that's hilarious considering I've pvped on and off since I started playing in 2014. You don't know me, so don't act like you do.

If you're claiming to be the a so called 'actual pvper' you would understand how stupid 86 zone is and how unbalanced it is compared to all the other popular zones.

Like I said, you're a biast warrior whose ego is built around a broken character. Either you haven't played 86 zone to witness how horrendous it is, or you're just a little stoopid. I can't honestly tell...


That's all I'll say, egostistical warriors are not enjoyable :)))


+1 for this thread

Warrior is quite busted currently haha but i dont do pvp as much iam more pve so enemy go poof but i actually dont even know when or how warrior became so busted i remember back then al classes being balanced pretty well but now every class is a all rounder and its all now about being a girl boy and alien if that makes anysince like every class does the same thing sort of so if i wanna kill boss easy i can choose any class and class its self is like a decoration like mage rogue war can solo bosses in past only rogue can do that mage would support and tank would well u know tank dmg haha and taunt but now since all classes do the same people just choose whatever class because they want to be a girl or boy or alien plus vanitys i might be talking out of my butt bbuutt thats what i think your free to give ur opinion about my comment and current me if there anything wrong with what i wrote and current pvp is unbalanced and will probably be unbalanced for everrrr i dont think there a way to nerf one class without indirectly buffing another one


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[capeo]

I'm not going to pretend wars don't do damage now. It's far less then the other classes but power creep from pve has made even our damage high. 1 v 1 this is a problem for the other classes. When we clash I regularly get 0 to 4 kills out of 20. Many of our matches it's 0. In ctf when rogue is at 300 I'm at 20. In 2 v2 I'm always in the 0 to 4 range. More often 0. Granted I'm also the one war with the least kills in the map. Always. I could care less about the damage. Nerf it however much you want. I use my skills and proc and pets to cover and debuff. I'm a tank I just want to survive. We have been in the same maps and same clashes. Good rogues like Saxt and Delegations have good gear but also use strategy to regularly nuke the opposing tank. Hell, they nuke the whole team on rejoin. Finding a way to get 4 kills to you're 1 death is how you win. Trying to stand toe to toe with a war and just blast them when they aren't in cd just isn't how you are going to be successful. You need a stategy to using your damage while timing your procs and aa. With the new nature damage mechanic wars die. A lot. It's not that we are immortal and damage like a rogue. Wars have weaknesses you have to exploit. Sorry if I don't go into anymore depth then that.

Last points for me on this topic.

Wars do a lot of damage because we all do a lot of damage. It's still far less then the other classes. If i just stand there a rogue or mage can nuke me through jug just looking at me mean. I don't just stand there.

While I understand it's frustrating. Asking for wars to be nerfed so they can't kill you is a bit sigle minded. Are you trying to tell me if wars couldn't kill someone it's okay? That means no one is going to challenge them to a duel right? Or that a rogue ego isn't going to get in the way and they won't vs 1v1? I know the op. All he would do is nuke tanks that can't fight back. I know this from experience. Still balanced then?

[ArcAL]

I'm not going to pretend wars don't do damage now. It's far less then the other classes but power creep from pve has made even our damage high. 1 v 1 this is a problem for the other classes. When we clash I regularly get 0 to 4 kills out of 20. Many of our matches it's 0. In ctf when rogue is at 300 I'm at 20. In 2 v2 I'm always in the 0 to 4 range. More often 0. Granted I'm also the one war with the least kills in the map. Always. I could care less about the damage. Nerf it however much you want. I use my skills and proc and pets to cover and debuff. I'm a tank I just want to survive. We have been in the same maps and same clashes. Good rogues like Saxt and Delegations have good gear but also use strategy to regularly nuke the opposing tank. Hell, they nuke the whole team on rejoin. Finding a way to get 4 kills to you're 1 death is how you win. Trying to stand toe to toe with a war and just blast them when they aren't in cd just isn't how you are going to be successful. You need a stategy to using your damage while timing your procs and aa. With the new nature damage mechanic wars die. A lot. It's not that we are immortal and damage like a rogue. Wars have weaknesses you have to exploit. Sorry if I don't go into anymore depth then that.

Last points for me on this topic.

Wars do a lot of damage because we all do a lot of damage. It's still far less then the other classes. If i just stand there a rogue or mage can nuke me through jug just looking at me mean. I don't just stand there.

While I understand it's frustrating. Asking for wars to be nerfed so they can't kill you is a bit sigle minded. Are you trying to tell me if wars couldn't kill someone it's okay? That means no one is going to challenge them to a duel right? Or that a rogue ego isn't going to get in the way and they won't vs 1v1? I know the op. All he would do is nuke tanks that can't fight back. I know this from experience. Still balanced then?

I don’t agree and I think the 4 kills out of 20 is a lie lol. The tanks in the game spectate get the most kills in tdm. New nature dmg? It’s so bad it’s like a 10% chance for proc.

You’re babbling about having invulnerability 2 secs from heal juggernaut 8-10 invulnerability and haste its unlimited juggernaut.

As a rogue full dex yes you hit hard, but the only downfall is that you’re paper afterwards.

Exploit/experienced rogues??? Guy I’ve been in pvp since 2014 for you to come tell me that this is normal.

Rogues received a nerf from a bug before everytime ebon daggers proc you insta died. That’s the same thing with warrior weapons.

All classes need a nerf to limit procs to 10% of their maximum power in pvp.

Don’t act like you don’t exploit this and stack 3-4-5 tanks on the same time and stand in the middle of the map.


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[presp600]

I don’t agree and I think the 4 kills out of 20 is a lie lol. The tanks in the game spectate get the most kills in tdm. New nature dmg? It’s so bad it’s like a 10% chance for proc.

You’re babbling about having invulnerability 2 secs from heal juggernaut 8-10 invulnerability and haste its unlimited juggernaut.

As a rogue full dex yes you hit hard, but the only downfall is that you’re paper afterwards.

Exploit/experienced rogues??? Guy I’ve been in pvp since 2014 for you to come tell me that this is normal.

Rogues received a nerf from a bug before everytime ebon daggers proc you insta died. That’s the same thing with warrior weapons.

All classes need a nerf to limit procs to 10% of their maximum power in pvp.

Don’t act like you don’t exploit this and stack 3-4-5 tanks on the same time and stand in the middle of the map.


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A good rogue or mage can 1 combo a tank in Jugg without heal. Especially with this new bio set and the jewels. It’s all timing lmao


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[capeo]

While arcs frustration entertains me I don't stack any classes. You might want to consider why all the tanks go opposite instead of join your side.

[trueido]

Tanks are too OP in pvp period
This needs to be fixed

[Iccyprincess]

Tanks have more damage than rogues and 14sec total immortal with jug heal and glow

[kikemm17]

I love all my warrior friends in PvP, but I think we can all agree that warriors might be a bit too overpowered right now. I see plenty of discussions about skills, it could be the best rogues or mages and they would still struggle to defeat a warrior in a one-on-one fight. Warriors are invincible, they would even be able to take on four opponents at once and come out on top. It's crazy.

I understand that warriors might not want to be nerfed, but it seems necessary to balance the game. Despite having a good set, any random warrior with 2k strength can take me down as soon as my shield immunity ends, simply by spamming their chain or rusk weapon. It's just too much. Game developers should work towards a more balanced and fair playing field for everyone. They shouldn't ignore the PvP aspect of the game, I know it's a smaller section, but many players play this game specifically for PvP.

[xFreaKzx]

I love all my warrior friends in PvP, but I think we can all agree that warriors might be a bit too overpowered right now. I see plenty of discussions about skills, it could be the best rogues or mages and they would still struggle to defeat a warrior in a one-on-one fight. Warriors are invincible, they would even be able to take on four opponents at once and come out on top. It's crazy.

I understand that warriors might not want to be nerfed, but it seems necessary to balance the game. Despite having a good set, any random warrior with 2k strength can take me down as soon as my shield immunity ends, simply by spamming their chain or rusk weapon. It's just too much. Game developers should work towards a more balanced and fair playing field for everyone. They shouldn't ignore the PvP aspect of the game, I know it's a smaller section, but many players play this game specifically for PvP.Agree with my friend here, no hate, all love here for our fellow tanks in pvp but saying yall not broken is a delusion

How u gon tell us the tank class is out here nuking everyone out while having the "tank" perks, highest health, highest armor with skills like jugg which makes u immortal , a heal with a 4.5 second invulnerability that basically out lasts procs plus vengeful that gives u infinite mana and now have damage that rivals mages and rogues own damage

Yall out here one tapping everyone with the axe skill, breaking shields with a 3 hit combo like it's paper, like tanks can literally break shields as efficient as a rogue , that's straight up outrageous behavior

Doing the same damage as a rogue while having all this perks that are meant for u to outlast everyone in terms of durability is not ok plus now with haste that basically gives u almost no cd to ur broken abilities leaving us with a mere second to actually be able to kill or stun definitely not ok

Tanks have become a combination of all classes , replenish mana like mages, deals same damage as rogues with the same nuking potential and durability like no other class, just wild

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[Americanarmy]

Agree with my friend here, no hate, all love here for our fellow tanks in pvp but saying yall not broken is a delusion

How u gon tell us the tank class is out here nuking everyone out while having the "tank" perks, highest health, highest armor with skills like jugg which makes u immortal , a heal with a 4.5 second invulnerability that basically out lasts procs plus vengeful that gives u infinite mana and now have damage that rivals mages and rogues own damage

Yall out here one tapping everyone with the axe skill, breaking shields with a 3 hit combo like it's paper, like tanks can literally break shields as efficient as a rogue , that's straight up outrageous behavior

Doing the same damage as a rogue while having all this perks that are meant for u to outlast everyone in terms of durability is not ok plus now with haste that basically gives u almost no cd to ur broken abilities leaving us with a mere second to actually be able to kill or stun definitely not ok

Tanks have become a combination of all classes , replenish mana like mages, deals same damage as rogues with the same nuking potential and durability like no other class, just wild

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I agree [emoji3516] warrior now is more of a berseker class that has huge hp and dmg output in certain situations


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[Squlo]

Rogue/mages together stronk i guess where yall have been while ruling the pvp for years and one shotting tanks actually?

If you are talking about equality now in pvp I am going for nerf the rogue dmg cuz tanks literally getting nuked through jugg if that is the case lol

[Authenticz]

@Cinco, @Assomers
Its becoming a big problem at Ivl 86 pvp. Warriors are now able to output mage level damage while having juggernaut skill with a low cd thanks to haste and a heal with an invulnerable shield, if a survey is taken of 86 pvp players you will see that warrior is seriously unbalanced. Mages can barely compete and rogues are just slaughtered quickly. Sure you could say that its just a skill issue and the warrs are just better players, but the thing is even skilled high dex rog and high int mages lose pretty easily to a low-mid str warrior if they have an idea of what to do. Warrs tearing through shield+meph or glow+ gale buff etc, Rogues even got it worse because they have no invulnerability shield or high dmg reduction shield. Many are even becoming warriors now because of this, and theres an infestation of warriors at 86. The problem isnt even the weapon proc damage the problem is that base dmg for wars is too high.
Please investigate this and restore a little bit of balance to 86 pvp ty.

I switched to warrior, as a 3k str warrior i was beating 4k dex rogs and 3.2k+ int mages it became even more impossible for rogs and mages to win when i geared my tank to 3.6k str. Please restore balance

[Americanarmy]

Rogue/mages together stronk i guess where yall have been while ruling the pvp for years and one shotting tanks actually?

If you are talking about equality now in pvp I am going for nerf the rogue dmg cuz tanks literally getting nuked through jugg if that is the case lol

Arent rogues assassins they supposed to kill without getting caught


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[ArcAL]

Rogue/mages together stronk i guess where yall have been while ruling the pvp for years and one shotting tanks actually?

If you are talking about equality now in pvp I am going for nerf the rogue dmg cuz tanks literally getting nuked through jugg if that is the case lol

I have maxed stats at 76 as well and I can not combo a tank through jugg. Actually a tank using 1v1 loadout and heroic Elbert kills me fine but not to an extreme.

If I run out of mana spamming him I’m dead.

Warriors get 1 shot after jugg is finished and a rogue with mephisto combos.

Arcane legends is a role playing game.

I play rogue to do dmg and get kills, but I’m also easy to kill.

Here’s a screenshot of a warrior with proc vs my proc at 86 stats and tell me if it’s fair. Keep in mind they jugg and their weapon procs 7 second cd and vb doubles their dmg often like nothing bc of haste.

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[Americanarmy]

I have maxed stats at 76 as well and I can not combo a tank through jugg. Actually a tank using 1v1 loadout and heroic Elbert kills me fine but not to an extreme.

If I run out of mana spamming him I’m dead.

Warriors get 1 shot after jugg is finished and a rogue with mephisto combos.

Arcane legends is a role playing game.

I play rogue to do dmg and get kills, but I’m also easy to kill.

Here’s a screenshot of a warrior with proc vs my proc at 86 stats and tell me if it’s fair. Keep in mind they jugg and their weapon procs 7 second cd and vb doubles their dmg often like nothing bc of haste.

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Omggg wthh haha warr has more crit and more dmg more hp more armor and bonus dmg


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[Rottings]

what lvl were you at before you came to 86

[capeo]

I agree that tanks do a ton of damage now. We can 1 shot ourselves. I went through caps where war damage was to low to kill any good rogue/mage so sorry but I don't feel bad the opposite is true now.

[ArcAL]

what lvl were you at before you came to 86

I’ve pvped at lv46-81 (before kraken) always endgame for 7 years… taken a break here and there but played pretty much every bracket.


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[ArcAL]

I agree that tanks do a ton of damage now. We can 1 shot ourselves. I went through caps where war damage was to low to kill any good rogue/mage so sorry but I don't feel bad the opposite is true now.

Ebon aegis dmg reflect???? Insta die on accident combo tank.

Skull dozer op dmg with vb op haste unlimited jugg????


Immortal aegis ????? Die to shield exploding and immortal with proc absorption????

Terrorblade with pools pulling rogue that do dmg??????

Drag sword with pools that do good dmg????

Am I missing anything?


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[Squlo]

Ebon aegis dmg reflect???? Insta die on accident combo tank.

Skull dozer op dmg with vb op haste unlimited jugg????


Immortal aegis ????? Die to shield exploding and immortal with proc absorption????

Terrorblade with pools pulling rogue that do dmg??????

Drag sword with pools that do good dmg????

Am I missing anything?


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Oh yeah meanwhile it takes ages to proc drag sword and stack the pools and even if u stack u needed to stun ur opponent inside those stacked pools

Immo aegis u can literally kill the tank when jugg is over cuz they literally do no dmg unless its a 4v4 5v5

Terrorblade wasnt event an issue use nekro and get away from the proc??? That is easy already. On the other hand tanks are supposed to kill rogs on their sword loadout already so i dont see an issue here

U literally put here those aegises which are "only" useful in clashes 4v4 nd 5v5 it's not even possible to die if u follow tank proc and combo when off proc idk what u on

For skull dozer and krak meta have always been telling that dmg stacking is just so bad and has to be nerfed that is being said also new players cant play the game when they reach endgame content cause every single dam boss scaled based on arcane equipment but well that is another topic

[Oawaoebi]

Without reading all this. Rogue been dominating pvp since when 71? It’s great that the pvp dominating class can’t rush in stupidly anymore. I’m happy for our warriors to finally dominate.

Maybe in 91 cap mages will have their time to shine.

[ArcAL]

Without reading all this. Rogue been dominating pvp since when 71? It’s great that the pvp dominating class can’t rush in stupidly anymore. I’m happy for our warriors to finally dominate.

Maybe in 91 cap mages will have their time to shine.

I couldn’t beat a good geared maxed mage at lv56, 61, 76, and 81 (before kraken) ask spectral lol.. cursed would destroy a rogue.

And I’m fine with losing to a mage at those caps rogues get chewed up by good mages.


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[xFreaKzx]

Without reading all this. Rogue been dominating pvp since when 71? It’s great that the pvp dominating class can’t rush in stupidly anymore. I’m happy for our warriors to finally dominate.

Maybe in 91 cap mages will have their time to shine.This comment is coming from someone who doesn't even play pvp btw

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[Squlo]

I couldn’t beat a good geared maxed mage at lv56, 61, 76, and 81 (before kraken) ask spectral lol.. cursed would destroy a rogue.

And I’m fine with losing to a mage at those caps rogues get chewed up by good mages.


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sorry to say that but i think you just confirmed that it is a skill issue back to back

[Oawaoebi]

This comment is coming from someone who doesn't even play pvp btw

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Hands down. I played PvP you didn’t even had your account created.

[xFreaKzx]

Hands down. I played PvP you didn’t even had your account created.My account is from 2013 xD, maybe u have done a Lil pvp over the years but we can both agree u haven't touched 86, 81 and possibly 76 but that doesn't matter ig , we talking bout 86 here

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[Oawaoebi]

My account is from 2013 xD, maybe u have done a Lil pvp over the years but we can both agree u haven't touched 86, 81 and possibly 76 but that doesn't matter ig , we talking bout 86 here

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So, because i was not the most active PvP Player in these levels, because rogues been dominating with oneshots and mages had an incredible hard time (thats why almost no mage plays pvp), you try to tell others my opinion doesn’t matter?


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[xFreaKzx]

So, because i was not the most active PvP Player in these levels, because rogues been dominating with oneshots and mages had an incredible hard time (thats why almost no mage plays pvp), you try to tell others my opinion doesn’t matter?


Gesendet von iPad mit TapatalkNaw I'm a mage and always been and mages has not been struggling atleast in 81+ so just from that alone ik u haven't been active in this zones and that's my point, u are saying stuff without experiencing and seeing for urself the state of pvp and what's going on with the classes

Thats like the equivalent to me hoping in the Hc forum and start supporting the devs that wanted to remove revive in hc, that wouldn't make sense cause I don't play hc so idk what I'm talking about, that's all I'm saying



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[kikemm17]

So, because i was not the most active PvP Player in these levels, because rogues been dominating with oneshots and mages had an incredible hard time (thats why almost no mage plays pvp), you try to tell others my opinion doesn’t matter?


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I want to intervene because there’s some misinformation being given here. I’ve been playing as a mage for a long time, though my main was a rogue until level 81. I focus solely on PvP, so I understand the dynamics pretty well. Thanks for wanting mages to dominate at level 91, and I admit it can be fun to have an advantage. However, that kind of imbalance gets boring over time. So yes, mages have dominated a few zones here and there, not only rogues.

I believe that PvP should offer fair fights for everyone. At level 81, mages had some advantages, and we enjoyed being at the top of the pyramid. I wouldn’t have minded some nerfs to level the playing field. However, the current situation is unprecedented. Warriors are waaay too overpowered and this needs to be addressed immediately. Either warriors should be balanced, or rogues and mages should receive buffs.

Cinco himself admitted that warriors are having their time, and a small advantage would have been fine. But right now, warriors have a nearly 100% chance of winning against other classes.

[Dffleg]

I want to intervene because there’s some misinformation being given here. I’ve been playing as a mage for a long time, though my main was a rogue until level 81. I focus solely on PvP, so I understand the dynamics pretty well. Thanks for wanting mages to dominate at level 91, and I admit it can be fun to have an advantage. However, that kind of imbalance gets boring over time. So yes, mages have dominated a few zones here and there, not only rogues.

I believe that PvP should offer fair fights for everyone. At level 81, mages had some advantages, and we enjoyed being at the top of the pyramid. I wouldn’t have minded some nerfs to level the playing field. However, the current situation is unprecedented. Warriors are waaay too overpowered and this needs to be addressed immediately. Either warriors should be balanced, or rogues and mages should receive buffs.

Cinco himself admitted that warriors are having their time, and a small advantage would have been fine. But right now, warriors have a nearly 100% chance of winning against other classes.

Who cares about beeing an war that one shoot kill rogue/mages. They can use unlimited plats, and dominate entire pvp zone. So not worth the grind. Just look lb events, same people using different characters, funded by devs to increase hate about lb rewards. But now lb won t be played by anyone.

[xFreaKzx]

Who cares about beeing an war that one shoot kill rogue/mages. They can use unlimited plats, and dominate entire pvp zone. So not worth the grind. Just look lb events, same people using different characters, funded by devs to increase hate about lb rewards. But now lb won t be played by anyone.Sir, I think ur in the wrong thread. This is not the thread to complain about plats and lb

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[ArcAL]

Who cares about beeing an war that one shoot kill rogue/mages. They can use unlimited plats, and dominate entire pvp zone. So not worth the grind. Just look lb events, same people using different characters, funded by devs to increase hate about lb rewards. But now lb won t be played by anyone.

Unfortunately this is also true, but in the past 7 days I’ve spent $2,500 USD gearing with receipts to back-up my purchases and those tanks can take multiple hits from my rogue that tickle and they can hit rogues and mages once and they’re dead right away. HP drops from 100-0 in less than a second.

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Unfortunately this is also true, but in the past 7 days I’ve spent $2,500 USD gearing with receipts to back-up my purchases and those tanks can take multiple hits from my rogue that tickle and they can hit rogues and mages once and they’re dead right away. HP drops from 100-0 in less than a second.

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Your amount of dex isn’t anything impressive, and how much you spent on this game really does not matter. Its about the way you play the game and how good you are. Play the right events in a efficient way and you’ll make way more gold instead of spending 2.5k usd. I know people with maxed out sets, still losing to people within the same class with bad gear. they nerfed the rusk sword and now it is balanced, coming from a rogue which actually knows how the class works. Stop yapping and complaining because you cant kill a warr with probably way more str than you. It is what it is bro, money wont buy you skill…

[Sucr]

Your amount of dex isn’t anything impressive, and how much you spent on this game really does not matter. Its about the way you play the game and how good you are. Play the right events in a efficient way and you’ll make way more gold instead of spending 2.5k usd. I know people with maxed out sets, still losing to people within the same class with bad gear. they nerfed the rusk sword and now it is balanced, coming from a rogue which actually knows how the class works. Stop yapping and complaining because you cant kill a warr with probably way more str than you. It is what it is bro, money wont buy you skill…

his k/d is 110k kills with 60k deaths.. if you think he's bad then you're dumb.

+ any dex above 3k is enough for cap pvp, 95% of the rogues in cap pvp lurk around 3k-3.4k dex... His gears are full eyes and he has more damage than rogues with 6/6 4k dex. All of your points are invalid.

Maybe don't bother commenting if you have no idea what you're talking about?

[Brruiser]

his k/d is 110k kills with 60k deaths.. if you think he's bad then you're dumb.

+ any dex above 3k is enough for cap pvp, 90% of the rogues in cap pvp lurk around 3k-3.4k dex... His gears are full eyes and he has more damage than rogues with 6/6 4k dex. All of your points are invalid.

lol please educate yourself…

this dude went in, without any aa in to a warrior that procced rusk shield + krak armor, well no **** he dies one hit??? 51k base isn’t anything from impressive. Even 4k dex is considered low.
And besides that, putting eyes on star beast items is completely useless, its only good to put on items of 81 or under… corrupt is way better.

[ArcAL]

lol please educate yourself…

this dude went in, without any aa in to a warrior that procced rusk shield + krak armor, well no **** he dies one hit??? 51k base isn’t anything from impressive. Even 4k dex is considered low.
And besides that, putting eyes on star beast items is completely useless, its only good to put on items of 81 or under… corrupt is way better.

Buddy the purpose of the video was not me trying to kill the tank it was me showing how they can 1 hit you.

I think the idea was pretty obvious.


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[|Ares|]

Y'all are too invested in broken zone that will unlikely get balanced in the future.
Last enjoyable endgame pvp cap was at 61.
Now it's just new gears within every event making game seem like it needs adjustements this way to have it balanced. Well... not really, just made people (myself included) lost interest in even logging in.

[ArcAL]

Y'all are too invested in broken zone that will unlikely get balanced in the future.
Last enjoyable endgame pvp cap was at 61.
Now it's just new gears within every event making game seem like it needs adjustements this way to have it balanced. Well... not really, just made people (myself included) lost interest in even logging in.

I agree with this.


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[Rottings]

So youre new to 86 and want to nerf them

[Rottings]

Glazing, did you forget most of his kills arent from 86 cap

[ArcAL]

https://youtu.be/PNx8tcsQwZ4?si=uAJ6T0vZ5XLdNj70


Health bar doesn’t even move and absolutely no time to press anything.

@asommers @cinco


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[kikemm17]

https://youtu.be/PNx8tcsQwZ4?si=uAJ6T0vZ5XLdNj70


Health bar doesn’t even move and absolutely no time to press anything.

@asommers @cinco


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Arc, let me say this to you.
The game developers are very aware of this issue. The only problem is that they are ignoring us and not making any fixes. Specifically, Cinco mentioned that it is the warriors' time now. I understand that warriors are strong and enjoying the game, but this is getting out of hand. It's fine to give them an advantage, but they shouldn't have supreme power where no other class can reduce their health to even half. A change needs to be made. We just need to keep giving feedback and sending them videos of the unfair advantages warriors have now, hoping they do even a small nerf.

[Squlo]

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Health bar doesn’t even move and absolutely no time to press anything.

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OMG!

Bro actually thinks he can dmg a tank with a charged attack not even using a single aimed shot/sp lock this thread already what is this comedy show.

Pro tip: You can proc your gear with ur skills as well. (excluding weap)

Pro tip2: Glowstick aa reduces 95% of taken dmg

Pro tip3: Skill issue

[ArcAL]

Arc, let me say this to you.
The game developers are very aware of this issue. The only problem is that they are ignoring us and not making any fixes. Specifically, Cinco mentioned that it is the warriors' time now. I understand that warriors are strong and enjoying the game, but this is getting out of hand. It's fine to give them an advantage, but they shouldn't have supreme power where no other class can reduce their health to even half. A change needs to be made. We just need to keep giving feedback and sending them videos of the unfair advantages warriors have now, hoping they do even a small nerf.

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[ArcAL]

OMG!

Bro actually thinks he can dmg a tank with a charged attack not even using a single aimed shot/sp lock this thread already what is this comedy show.

Pro tip: You can proc your gear with ur skills as well. (excluding weap)

Pro tip2: Glowstick aa reduces 95% of taken dmg

Pro tip3: Skill issue

But the tank with charged attack can take my HP from 100-0? With basic attack? He axed me once and killed me without using axe again just basic attack.

Thank you for helping prove my point.


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[Squlo]

But the tank with charged attack can take my HP from 100-0? With basic attack? He axed me once and killed me without using axe again just basic attack.

Thank you for helping prove my point.


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Please read the description of the skills I am honestly done with your pointless as you call it "proofs of how broken warrior is" argument. You are literally one of the worst rogues yapping about that I have ever seen.

Above that tanks are supposed to be the nature counters of rogue class but sadly from your videos it's way too one sided cause you are straight up not playing/acting or actually bad at rogue class so it is better for you to switch class I guess I highly recommend that.

At last just stay away from PvP and stop missleading community rogues 1 shotting tanks through jugg for years I literally never seen that much yapping from them but can we say the opposite? Idk

[kikemm17]

Please read the description of the skills I am honestly done with your pointless as you call it "proofs of how broken warrior is" argument. You are literally one of the worst rogues yapping about that I have ever seen.

Above that tanks are supposed to be the nature counters of rogue class but sadly from your videos it's way too one sided cause you are straight up not playing/acting or actually bad at rogue class so it is better for you to switch class I guess I highly recommend that.

At last just stay away from PvP and stop missleading community rogues 1 shotting tanks through jugg for years I literally never seen that much yapping from them but can we say the opposite? Idk

I understand where you're coming from. Rogues used to dominate PvP—I know because I played as a rogue for a long time. Now, as a mage, I’m really enjoying the class. However, the claim that warriors are overpowered is undeniable. Mages are meant to withstand enemy fire, but we’re now being killed by a single hit from warriors or even just an axe pull AND WITH SHIELD ON!!. I’ve faced warriors with half my stats, and they still manage to one-shot me. I understand your perspective… putting skills, class natures and rogue history aside, I hope we can both agree that warriors are currently broken and need to be balanced.

[trueido]

I would like warriors to shine and be used often in PvP and PvE but the fact that they just have it all in PvP is outrages.
And yet people refuse to accept the truth that warriors are broken in PvP.

(And that is coming from someone who played war for years and still is.)

[Squlo]

I understand where you're coming from. Rogues used to dominate PvP—I know because I played as a rogue for a long time. Now, as a mage, I’m really enjoying the class. However, the claim that warriors are overpowered is undeniable. Mages are meant to withstand enemy fire, but we’re now being killed by a single hit from warriors or even just an axe pull AND WITH SHIELD ON!!. I’ve faced warriors with half my stats, and they still manage to one-shot me. I understand your perspective… putting skills, class natures and rogue history aside, I hope we can both agree that warriors are currently broken and need to be balanced.

Quick and simple solution remove damage multiply/stacking inside PvP and there you go.

You guys are blaming the class yet it's the gears that are problem.

Peace out im done with the thread.

[kikemm17]

Quick and simple solution remove damage multiply/stacking inside PvP and there you go.

You guys are blaming the class yet it's the gears that are problem.

Peace out im done with the thread.

I haven’t made a single comment blaming the warriors. It’s been the complete opposite. All I want is for the game developers to realize what’s going on and how it’s affecting the game. That’s all. Peace out!

[xFreaKzx]

Quick and simple solution remove damage multiply/stacking inside PvP and there you go.

You guys are blaming the class yet it's the gears that are problem.

Peace out im done with the thread.Well I mean it's hard not to say warriors are broken when they can pop ur shield like nothing and nuke people out , on the other side , warriors can't be nuked and that's alr cause warriors aren't supposed to be nuked ig coming from the perspective that they are the class with the most durability and are supposed to eat them crits but yall are not supposed to do the nuking.

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[Americanarmy]

Well I mean it's hard not to say warriors are broken when they can pop ur shield like nothing and nuke people out , on the other side , warriors can't be nuked and that's alr cause warriors aren't supposed to be nuked ig coming from the perspective that they are the class with the most durability and are supposed to eat them crits but yall are not supposed to do the nuking.

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True they eat the crit not deal the crit haha


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[ArcAL]

Any update on this?

@cinco @asommers


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[Clikaa]

Any update on this?

@cinco @asommers


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Let it go lil bro


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[ArcAL]

Let it go lil bro


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You don’t have to comment under here you can simply ignore the thread.

Thanks.


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[capeo]

Damage is insane all the way around. If a war is caught unshielded (jug isn't enough) the war is 1 tapped instantly. Damage by all 3 classes is insane. Even with reflect capped at 10% I see rogues 1 hitting themselves every clash.

As much as I've enjoyed arcs frustration I do have some sympathy for anyone that spends real money and still can't beat a mid tier opponent. Last cap even with 3k str a 2k int mage could farm me. I did something similar to what arc did and threw money at the problem. Result was me regretting my life choices and losing to 2.5int mages. This isn't a new phenomenon its just tanks with the advantage now. That being said team play is different. I had to give up on vs a mage and in the past I've had to give up vs a rogue. I suggest you focus on team play. Yesterday I had to make adjustments because a rogue was killing me constantly.

Speaking of rogues killing me constantly I'll mention this. A rogue friend and I test the new gear together and fight when ever we have time to improve. Although I kill him more often then he kills me, he does kill me. Constantly. Sometimes I lose a room. He's a better player then me. I wish he was on more but life gets in the way. I would also suggest putting some time in and figuring out what works not focusing on what doesn't work.

[ArcAL]

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