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Chessbunny
06-06-2024, 10:43 AM
Bio Beast Set Buff and Info!

-Bio Beast DoT-
Each Bio Beast accessory has a chance on hit to apply a 500 Nature Damage DoT (that stacks) to a random target for 8 seconds. This DoT is only influenced by Nature Damage, each point of Nature Damage you have will significantly increase the damage done by this DoT.

-Bio Beast Amulet-
Chance on hit to apply a 10-second buff that increases movement speed by 200% (that stacks) and +40 Nature Damage. Does not apply to PvP.
Chance on hit to apply Bio Beast Amulet DoT.
Has a 24-second cooldown.

-Bio Beast Artifact-
Chance on hit to apply Bio Beast Artifact DoT.
It now has a 9-second cooldown. (This was reduced from 25-seconds)

-Bio Beast Belt-
Chance on hit to apply Bio Beast Belt DoT.
It now has a 10-second cooldown. (This was reduced from 20-seconds)

-Bio Beast Bracelet-
Chance on hit to apply Bio Beast Bracelet DoT.
It now has an 11-second cooldown. (This was reduced from 15-seconds)

-Bio Beast Ring-
Chance on hit to apply Bio Beast Ring DoT.
It now has an 12-second cooldown. (This was reduced from 20-seconds)

-Bio Beast Set Bonus-
+20% Nature Damage, +25% Primary Stat, +25% Damage, +20% Critical Hit Damage, and +10% Health Leech.
In Elder Woods, you gain an additional +5% Nature Damage, +5% Damage, +5% Critical Hit Damage, and +5% Lethality.


Elemental Damage Information

There is some confusion about how elemental damage works and is applied, so here is a brief explanation. Elemental Damage is only used for items or abilities that state they do Elemental Damage. At this time, the Bio Beast Set and some Elder Woods weapons are the only items that use the Elemental Damage stats. Elemental Damage can be used in all dungeons, it is not limited to Elder Wood's dungeons.

iulicutu
06-06-2024, 01:03 PM
This DoT is only influenced by Nature Damage
this is kinda weird

so bonus damage/elite damage/boss damage/main stat/crit damage none of these influence it?

so it is capped from the start meaning the only way to increase it is through the 2 types of goblin jewels(3 of each) and
more bio set pieces?

basically any other stats don't matter at all?

trickmeister
06-06-2024, 01:16 PM
thank you sounds good .maybe buff damge aswell :D

dmqp
06-06-2024, 01:22 PM
+Bio DOT stop dealing damage once item with active dot is changed for other item (e.g. bio ring for star beast ring)

Americanarmy
06-06-2024, 02:04 PM
this is kinda weird

so bonus damage/elite damage/boss damage/main stat/crit damage none of these influence it?

so it is capped from the start meaning the only way to increase it is through the 2 types of goblin jewels(3 of each) and
more bio set pieces?

basically any other stats don't matter at all?

Does that mean the goblin jewels will be worth more now?


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recilencia123
06-06-2024, 02:31 PM
+Bio DOT stop dealing damage once item with active dot is changed for other item (e.g. bio ring for star beast ring)

so is bad for temple atm need better awake f


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Chessbunny
06-06-2024, 02:48 PM
thank you sounds good .maybe buff damge aswell :D

Reducing the cooldowns on the items gives a big boost to it's damage.

Chessbunny
06-06-2024, 02:50 PM
this is kinda weird

so bonus damage/elite damage/boss damage/main stat/crit damage none of these influence it?

so it is capped from the start meaning the only way to increase it is through the 2 types of goblin jewels(3 of each) and
more bio set pieces?

basically any other stats don't matter at all?

If you wanted to boost the damage of the DoT, it does need to be with Nature Damage, that is correct.

zynkor
06-06-2024, 03:18 PM
Are the DOT effects part of the 5/5 set bonus, or can we use any items and still get the DOTs?

Chessbunny
06-06-2024, 03:36 PM
Are the DOT effects part of the 5/5 set bonus, or can we use any items and still get the DOTs?

Each Bio Beast item applies its own unique DoT that stacks.

Americanarmy
06-06-2024, 03:52 PM
Each Bio Beast item applies its own unique DoT that stacks.

Oooooo


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Hercules
06-06-2024, 04:13 PM
Thank you very much for listening to us and for the clarification, it really is a good set. I'm starting to love it <3

Hercules
06-06-2024, 04:21 PM
Dear dev, is there any possibility to add the stones in token vendor? Maybe like bound. Each for 10k tokens. The confusion is so great that many people do not open the vault with goblin jewelry.

trickmeister
06-06-2024, 04:40 PM
why does the amulet still have a 24 sec cooldown when all other pieces have like 10 sec

jazzbloonist
06-06-2024, 05:13 PM
Bio Beast Set Buff and Info!

-Bio Beast DoT-
Each Bio Beast accessory has a chance on hit to apply a 500 Nature Damage DoT (that stacks) to a random target for 8 seconds. This DoT is only influenced by Nature Damage, each point of Nature Damage you have will significantly increase the damage done by this DoT.

-Bio Beast Amulet-
Chance on hit to apply a 10-second buff that increases movement speed by 200% (that stacks) and +40 Nature Damage. Does not apply to PvP.
Chance on hit to apply Bio Beast Amulet DoT.
Has a 24-second cooldown.

-Bio Beast Artifact-
Chance on hit to apply Bio Beast Artifact DoT.
It now has a 9-second cooldown. (This was reduced from 25-seconds)

-Bio Beast Belt-
Chance on hit to apply Bio Beast Belt DoT.
It now has a 10-second cooldown. (This was reduced from 20-seconds)

-Bio Beast Bracelet-
Chance on hit to apply Bio Beast Bracelet DoT.
It now has an 11-second cooldown. (This was reduced from 15-seconds)

-Bio Beast Ring-
Chance on hit to apply Bio Beast Ring DoT.
It now has an 12-second cooldown. (This was reduced from 20-seconds)

-Bio Beast Set Bonus-
+20% Nature Damage, +25% Primary Stat, +25% Damage, +20% Critical Hit Damage, and +10% Health Leech.
In Elder Woods, you gain an additional +5% Nature Damage, +5% Damage, +5% Critical Hit Damage, and +5% Lethality.


Elemental Damage Information

There is some confusion about how elemental damage works and is applied, so here is a brief explanation. Elemental Damage is only used for items or abilities that state they do Elemental Damage. At this time, the Bio Beast Set and some Elder Woods weapons are the only items that use the Elemental Damage stats. Elemental Damage can be used in all dungeons, it is not limited to Elder Wood's dungeons.Elemental damage applies to all dungeons. But it does more dmg to nature map mobs like ash forest or nah?
Or isit a completely new type of dmg of its own that doesnt stack or get affected by others?

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jazzbloonist
06-06-2024, 05:17 PM
Furthermore, nature resist means resistance to dmg by nature type mobs in ash forest or does it have something to do with the toxin dmg once the debuff bar reaches max (aka how lethal it is)? Means it would also reduce the Dmg taken of the nature DoT from the bio beast set?

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Statsonly
06-06-2024, 07:00 PM
I hope to see more of bio set in the future and not a one off item like rusk weapons

Megatr0n
06-06-2024, 09:31 PM
could you please add these descriptions to the bio beast items themselves please


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Stein
06-06-2024, 10:30 PM
theres still a confusion, some says that nature damage only applied into mobs with nature-like behaviour, so in other maps will not be working, can some explain about this?

Megatr0n
06-06-2024, 10:33 PM
they gotta add it to the description of the items in game , so we dont have to keep coming back and forth to see whats going on


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nemusoa
06-06-2024, 10:50 PM
So this is i am try to explain=
bio damage only affect on 1-2 map elder.

I thins dev want to release other elemental set to us, so we can choose what element we want to claim as our main power. or to next expansion there is mas with all element in there. 4 person party with 3 different element would be great decision for team work.

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Susanne
06-07-2024, 12:30 AM
What the heck do we need all these different sets for and what's all this about nature and elemental stuff? It's just frying people's brains.
What a load of drivel. We just need a decent level 86 set each not this merry-go-round of different stuff.
Everything is too complicated and I think someone is having a laugh at our expense. Players festooned with auras, wisps and strange pet effects and soon we'll need so many loadouts the screen will be obscured by them.
Only the very nimblest of thumbs will be able to master getting though a map at this rate.

MaAaT
06-07-2024, 02:51 AM
Furthermore, nature resist means resistance to dmg by nature type mobs in ash forest or does it have something to do with the toxin dmg once the debuff bar reaches max (aka how lethal it is)? Means it would also reduce the Dmg taken of the nature DoT from the bio beast set?

Sent from my SM-A536E using TapatalkEnemies have elemental attack. Nature resistance means damage reduction from attacks and effects, that do nature damage. Not sure about all the stuff this affects, but it definitely reduces damage taken from bio beast dot

Stein
06-07-2024, 04:20 AM
but how can mobs with nature damage also weakness to nature?, like the beetle one

Stein
06-07-2024, 04:22 AM
So this is i am try to explain=
bio damage only affect on 1-2 map elder.

I thins dev want to release other elemental set to us, so we can choose what element we want to claim as our main power. or to next expansion there is mas with all element in there. 4 person party with 3 different element would be great decision for team work.

267281

but how can mobs with nature damage also weakness to nature?, like the beetle one

Stein
06-07-2024, 04:58 AM
So this is i am try to explain=
bio damage only affect on 1-2 map elder.

I thins dev want to release other elemental set to us, so we can choose what element we want to claim as our main power. or to next expansion there is mas with all element in there. 4 person party with 3 different element would be great decision for team work.

267281

where'd u get that information? about mobs weakness and resistance, please gives us link to that thread so we can read more, dont just use ur own assumptions bcause it is possible that you can misleading other players, also devs already said that nature damage is not restricted to elder woods map, it can be applied to mobs in other maps

dmqp
06-07-2024, 05:38 AM
To all people who are confused:

-There are 5 bio set pieces and every single one of them has it's own DOT (damage over time). In total it is possible to trigger 5x DOT. Look at it as bonus proc, that last for 8 sec. Every bio piece has it's own proc.
-They do not proc all at once, every single one of them has it's proc chance. For instance you proc ring, so only ring dot is active, then you proc belt 2 sec after ring, so ring and belt dots are active. It means you deal 2x dot damage and you can verify that, when you stop attacking you will see 2x red numbers. If you manage to proc all 5 bio pieces procs simultaneously, you'll see 5x red numbers.
- bio dot works on every single map, not only in first 2 elder woods maps. Actually you will deal same damage from bio dot to any mob from any map (tested on 5 different expansion maps and verified). It is called bio dot, but to simplify it to you all, it is just bonus proc with bonus damage to all enemy. You know how you proc kraken weapons or other weapons and their proc work vs all enemy? It is the same with bio pieces and their dot. It lasts 8 sec and has it's own cd. You can look at it as every bio set piece has it's own proc that works everywhere.
- the difference from classic procs is, that bio proc requires nature damage to work, so if you have only one bio piece (e.g ring) and proc enemy you see damage from bio dot, but when you change bio ring for other ring bio dot stops. Why? Because you lose nature damage. It is simple, if in your entire set isn't bio piece with nature damage, you bio dot deals no damage. So it is required to use at least 1 bio piece when you proc bio dots, here is scenario (damage numbers are just example to understand, how nature damage helps, not real values):
-You have all 5 bio pieces and goblin gems (they buff nature dmg), so your nature damage is maxed out, when you proc all 5 pieces and keep them on, you will deal 1mil damage from every piece, so you see 5x 1mil damage for 8 sec.
-Now remove one bio piece and replace it with something else, what will happen? You will still see 5x dot damage, but only dealing 800k per tick. Remove 2nd piece, what happens? Yes, you still deal 5x dot but this time for 600k damage per tick. Let's skip it to the end. Proc 5x bio dots and remove all bio pieces, what will you see? You are right, nothing, because you won't have any nature damage in set. Do the same woth 4, 3, 2 or 1 bio dots. E.g proc 4, change 1 bio item for something else, you deal 4 dots but with lower damage. Or proc 2 bio pieces and remove both, you will deal 0 damage. It is what it is, nature damage is fuel of bio dot.
- bio dot works with stats. It means higher stats, the stronger dot, it also means it works with awaken (high str/int/dex, or boss damage or elite damage), but it requires nature damage to be present in your set, because nature damage is as i called it fuel to bio dot. In short no nature damage === no dot, higher nature damage === higher dot damage, but it does work with stats, awaken and buffs from pets or equipment procs such as kraken armor


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MaAaT
06-07-2024, 05:58 AM
To all people who are confused:

-There are 5 bio set pieces and every single one of them has it's own DOT (damage over time). In total it is possible to trigger 5x DOT. Look at it as bonus proc, that last for 8 sec. Every bio piece has it's own proc.
-They do not proc all at once, every single one of them has it's proc chance. For instance you proc ring, so only ring dot is active, then you proc belt 2 sec after ring, so ring and belt dots are active. It means you deal 2x dot damage and you can verify that, when you stop attacking you will see 2x red numbers. If you manage to proc all 5 bio pieces procs simultaneously, you'll see 5x red numbers.
- bio dot works on every single map, not only in first 2 elder woods maps. Actually you will deal same damage from bio dot to any mob from any map (tested on 5 different expansion maps and verified). It is called bio dot, but to simplify it to you all, it is just bonus proc with bonus damage to all enemy. You know how you proc kraken weapons or other weapons and their proc work vs all enemy? It is the same with bio pieces and their dot. It lasts 8 sec and has it's own cd. You can look at it as every bio set piece has it's own proc that works everywhere.
- the difference from classic procs is, that bio proc requires nature damage to work, so if you have only one bio piece (e.g ring) and proc enemy you see damage from bio dot, but when you change bio ring for other ring bio dot stops. Why? Because you lose nature damage. It is simple, if in your entire set isn't bio piece with nature damage, you bio dot deals no damage. So it is required to use at least 1 bio piece when you proc bio dots, here is scenario (damage numbers are just example to understand, how nature damage helps, not real values):
-You have all 5 bio pieces and goblin gems (they buff nature dmg), so your nature damage is maxed out, when you proc all 5 pieces and keep them on, you will deal 1mil damage from every piece, so you see 5x 1mil damage for 8 sec.
-Now remove one bio piece and replace it with something else, what will happen? You will still see 5x dot damage, but only dealing 800k per tick. Remove 2nd piece, what happens? Yes, you still deal 5x dot but this time for 600k damage per tick. Let's skip it to the end. Proc 5x bio dots and remove all bio pieces, what will you see? You are right, nothing, because you won't have any nature damage in set. Do the same woth 4, 3, 2 or 1 bio dots. E.g proc 4, change 1 bio item for something else, you deal 4 dots but with lower damage. Or proc 2 bio pieces and remove both, you will deal 0 damage. It is what it is, nature damage is fuel of bio dot.
- bio dot works with stats. It means higher stats, the stronger dot, it also means it works with awaken (high str/int/dex, or boss damage or elite damage), but it requires nature damage to be present in your set, because nature damage is as i called it fuel to bio dot. In short no nature damage === no dot, higher nature damage === higher dot damage, but it does work with stats, awaken and buffs from pets or equipment procs such as kraken armor


-Not sure about the dot scaling with stat%. The warrior rage ultimate has no effect on its damage.

chiiwawa
06-07-2024, 06:27 AM
Ok, lets all slow down and connect the dots here.🤔

dmqp
06-07-2024, 06:55 AM
Not sure about the dot scaling with stat%. The warrior rage ultimate has no effect on its damage.

Good point with ultimate, i haven't tried dot with it until now. :-) After your comment i've tested ultimate vs dummy Hydra and it appears you are correct, because ultimate does not work with dot, and i understand why (3 - 5m per tick 8x would be crazy). On the other hand i double checked stats part with 3 sets vs hydra:
1. literally naked, only bio belt was present in set: bio dot dealt 30k per tick
2. higher stats set (i've procs): bio dot dealt 46 - 55k per tick
3. set with 100% crit chance - bio dot dealt over 100k per tick

I believe core stats improve dot damage, maybe not by a lot, but they do. Best is to have 100% crit chance, it is very handy, because every tick from dot deals x2 of initial dmg. With ultimate you are correct and i wish posts can be edited additionaly here.

Dafterpic
06-07-2024, 08:44 AM
Finally thank you Chessbunny i know you were the good one to explain it, now i want to know just a Last thing, that stats of by example 20% nature dmg is based in your own nature dmg stats? Like the pendant proc +40 or also in you stat Dmg by example 10k plus the nature one and if this nature dmg is a plus when you hit, like normal basic attacks 1k plus nature dmg dot 1k + 200 (for dot longs)?

Dafterpic
06-07-2024, 08:47 AM
Map 1 and 2 they are nature so they resist nature dmg you are confused its like rock, Scissors and paper

MaAaT
06-07-2024, 09:40 AM
Good point with ultimate, i haven't tried dot with it until now. :-) After your comment i've tested ultimate vs dummy Hydra and it appears you are correct, because ultimate does not work with dot, and i understand why (3 - 5m per tick 8x would be crazy). On the other hand i double checked stats part with 3 sets vs hydra:
1. literally naked, only bio belt was present in set: bio dot dealt 30k per tick
2. higher stats set (i've procs): bio dot dealt 46 - 55k per tick
3. set with 100% crit chance - bio dot dealt over 100k per tick

I believe core stats improve dot damage, maybe not by a lot, but they do. Best is to have 100% crit chance, it is very handy, because every tick from dot deals x2 of initial dmg. With ultimate you are correct and i wish posts can be edited additionaly here.Interesting. I wasn't too sure if it's either because rage with dots would be too broken, or because scaling is weird like with spirit sword. Either way knowing, that stat% also affects dmg is nice

Americanarmy
06-07-2024, 12:42 PM
Map 1 and 2 they are nature so they resist nature dmg you are confused its like rock, Scissors and paper

Shouldnt be like fire against nature not nature dmg against nature mobs makes no sense haha they need to revamp this stuff again


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Sakune
06-07-2024, 02:13 PM
If you want the bio set to compete against the SB set, add 200% dmg to the bio amulet, the exchanges of the sets are so fast that sometimes the sb amulet is not activated in the process of activating sb set and wanting to use bio set as dps , it would be more comfortable if the two amulets would have that +200%, so in those quick exchanges we would get that +200% from one amulet or the other, thus favoring the playability. please thanks :)

recilencia123
06-07-2024, 02:40 PM
devs why after bio proc and swap another gear the dot stops dealing damage but the poisoning animation continues?


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Dafterpic
06-07-2024, 05:04 PM
So this is i am try to explain=
bio damage only affect on 1-2 map elder.

I thins dev want to release other elemental set to us, so we can choose what element we want to claim as our main power. or to next expansion there is mas with all element in there. 4 person party with 3 different element would be great decision for team work.

267281

No bro, bio set attacks with nature dmg, in maps 1 and 2 all the map is nature, they have resistance

MaAaT
06-07-2024, 05:35 PM
If you want the bio set to compete against the SB set, add 200% dmg to the bio amulet, the exchanges of the sets are so fast that sometimes the sb amulet is not activated in the process of activating sb set and wanting to use bio set as dps , it would be more comfortable if the two amulets would have that +200%, so in those quick exchanges we would get that +200% from one amulet or the other, thus favoring the playability. please thanks :)If you use bio set for poison damage, it already performs extremely well. I think adding 200% dmg buff would make it kinda broken tbh.

Stein
06-07-2024, 07:28 PM
If you want the bio set to compete against the SB set, add 200% dmg to the bio amulet, the exchanges of the sets are so fast that sometimes the sb amulet is not activated in the process of activating sb set and wanting to use bio set as dps , it would be more comfortable if the two amulets would have that +200%, so in those quick exchanges we would get that +200% from one amulet or the other, thus favoring the playability. please thanks :)

Its different play style i think, sb with his high dps stats, bio beast with his high dot proc damage, u cant combine it bcs it will be broken

recilencia123
06-07-2024, 09:27 PM
Its different play style i think, sb with his high dps stats, bio beast with his high dot proc damage, u cant combine it bcs it will be broken

but dot esch pisces mark only one target however ye will be broke if u combine


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zynkor
06-08-2024, 09:15 AM
Bio Beast Set Buff and Info!

-Bio Beast DoT-
Each Bio Beast accessory has a chance on hit to apply a 500 Nature Damage DoT (that stacks) to a random target for 8 seconds. This DoT is only influenced by Nature Damage, each point of Nature Damage you have will significantly increase the damage done by this DoT.

-Bio Beast Amulet-
Chance on hit to apply a 10-second buff that increases movement speed by 200% (that stacks) and +40 Nature Damage. Does not apply to PvP.


Hi,

So, after testing the amulet it seems that right now we lose the 200% stacking speed proc if we switch to another amulet while the proc is active. Is this intended behavior?

I wondered if it would be possible to let the proc stay active even if we switch items. Since this proc is not a DoT that needs nature damage to work (like on other items), I don't see why it should be removed when changing items.

If not possible, then would you at least consider moving the speed proc to other item slots that are not part of the "speed set" slots? Otherwise, that speed proc isn't going to be very useful, I think.

Thanks

MaAaT
06-08-2024, 02:44 PM
Hi,

So, after testing the amulet it seems that right now we lose the 200% stacking speed proc if we switch to another amulet while the proc is active. Is this intended behavior?

I wondered if it would be possible to let the proc stay active even if we switch items. Since this proc is not a DoT that needs nature damage to work (like on other items), I don't see why it should be removed when changing items.

If not possible, then would you at least consider moving the speed proc to other item slots that are not part of the "speed set" slots? Otherwise, that speed proc isn't going to be very useful, I think.

ThanksOn sb amulet it's the same, so it's most likely intended.

Megatr0n
06-09-2024, 05:27 AM
can you add 3x dmg to the bio amulet


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anaktokdalang
06-09-2024, 05:28 AM
as conclusion bio more op than sb see ya

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Tekila
06-11-2024, 01:42 PM
Can you buff the star beast aswell ? :)


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Rogueuchiha
06-12-2024, 04:47 PM
Look this ...
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Americanarmy
06-12-2024, 08:32 PM
Look this ...
267368

Whats the problem?


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MaAaT
06-12-2024, 11:22 PM
Whats the problem?


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zynkor
06-13-2024, 10:23 AM
On sb amulet it's the same, so it's most likely intended.

Yeah I figured. To be honest, nevermind what I said lol. After switching my play style a bit and testing it more, it seems the amulet is pretty good as it is right now. With all speed procs, pet and elixirs, you can get insane speed % for some time xD

remembrall
06-13-2024, 04:27 PM
amulets amazing


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Ieaper
06-14-2024, 08:38 AM
I'm a bit confused about this new sets