One LB for a single Alt

[Hercules]

Hello, it is incredible the potential that some players have to put their alts and occupy several positions at the top. Perhaps leaving some players who try hard without a chance.

Now that we are so open to opening several Lbs in events, what if a new LB is created but with the strict rule that it is for a player without ALTS?

Nobody argues or fights with the most powerful players who have their alts, their Lb remains the same.

But a new LB for a single player per account and even I don't know how clever it is to restrict or for the system to detect the IP. It should be innovative, and this Lb should be very exclusive, with non-tradeable rewards. Oh well this is open to ideas!

Because it is not a lie that some players are more motivated to win 5 tradeables LB vanity sets and the corrupted jewels to sell. It became a big business.

But, if the new LB gives even bound rewards like a bound corrupted jewels it makes the challenge more competitive and fair.

I think nothing changes, players and alts can continue to occupy the 20 LB positions each event, only now those of us who have few opportunities will have it if this new LB is created.

Maybe new ones can emerge from my idea, I hope it doesn't generate hatred and that together we can build and change this issue. That few dare to speak.

[Hercules]

I'm not a picky person, and I get to thinking about the game's art team. I know it would be somewhat complex to create more designs. But believe me as a player I would be happy to compete for a corrupted jewels. That's all.

[Hercules]

I did a small survey in my union, and many are discouraged from competing because as they say: "You already know that those prizes will go to the same 6-7 players as always" It is sad and this is another big problem why there is little interest and participation in this temple. It's what I perceive. It's like all my friends were robbed of their hopes.

[Sue.]

What’s the difference between 1 person with 2 alts & 1 person with 2 devices & 2 acc’s?

Or, how can your idea not be exploited when sts admits they can’t tell who is who

[Hercules]

Good analogy, that is the point between all of us looking for an idea that provides a solution. I think the solution may be non-tradeable rewards, something that does not motivate so many accounts to participate. Or create a system that identifies the player's IP and prevents them from using their multiple accounts.

[Hercules]

Now I was thinking about another one, I don't know how viable it is.

1. Leave the LB with its tradeable prizes as it is.
2. Create A parallel LB with equal rewards but all non-tradeable.
3. There would be 3 options when entering a portal.
A. Alone
B. Group
C. Exclusive (New) Non-tradeable rewards - If this detracts from the value of the vanitys then let the reward be a bound corrupted and 50 bound elite awakening gems

I think that by having non-tradeable rewards we reduce the interest of multi-accounts. I suppose there is no impact. And all happy

[Encryptions]

I can use 10 phones on different wifi's and get lb on each even if they did the ip thing. There is no way to restrict this no matter what they do tbh.
Those players with lower gears can go for the top score that adds up.

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[iulicutu]

it is true that it's discouraging for many to even try to run lb when all the well geared players can just use the same gear on alts(on same account or different accounts) to secure another spot on lb

now as some1 else said on a different thread it is also true that even if one can run on alts it still takes the gear, skills, knowledge, time and effort to do it and this keeps the lb somewhat competitive
but would it had been more or less competitive if all of us who gave up on lb early on would've not been discouraged? who knows?

in the end it depends on what sts wants and how they see things

banning the ip is not a reliable idea; it can be easily bypassed

i've been thinking about a way to make it so that one cannot get multiple slots on lb and here's a possible way to make that happen:

requirements for lb: gear, skills, knowledge, time and effort
sts can't do anything about the latter
but they can do something about the first one


The idea:

make all the gear a player enters the event with completely bound(unstashable and untradeable) for the duration of the event
every piece of gear one has in the inventory when entering the event for the first time becomes completely character bound until the event ends
the player would receive a warning stating exactly this when attempting to enter the event for the first time
this way alts become irrelevant(no matter how many one has on the same account or different accounts)
this does seem a bit harsh but it's quite an easy solution


Drawbacks:

most of us who considered running lb have spent a lot of time/money/effort to gear up and also to make those alts, invest in them(time to lvl up and loadouts for each for example)
i myself made some alts specifically for this reason(even if i have none on lb rn)


so in the end would the dissatisfaction of these few players who can "exploit" this be less important to sts than the satisfaction of the other people who feel like the op of this thread(discouraged by multiple alts on lb)?
i myself am not sure; which is why i said "exploit"; i understand both points of view: one feels robbed of the chance for a lb reward and the other feels entitled to it since he can obtain it

[Hercules]

it is true that it's discouraging for many to even try to run lb when all the well geared players can just use the same gear on alts(on same account or different accounts) to secure another spot on lb

now as some1 else said on a different thread it is also true that even if one can run on alts it still takes the gear, skills, knowledge, time and effort to do it and this keeps the lb somewhat competitive
but would it had been more or less competitive if all of us who gave up on lb early on would've not been discouraged? who knows?

in the end it depends on what sts wants and how they see things

banning the ip is not a reliable idea; it can be easily bypassed

i've been thinking about a way to make it so that one cannot get multiple slots on lb and here's a possible way to make that happen:

requirements for lb: gear, skills, knowledge, time and effort
sts can't do anything about the latter
but they can do something about the first one


The idea:

make all the gear a player enters the event with completely bound(unstashable and untradeable) for the duration of the event
every piece of gear one has in the inventory when entering the event for the first time becomes completely character bound until the event ends
the player would receive a warning stating exactly this when attempting to enter the event for the first time
this way alts become irrelevant(no matter how many one has on the same account or different accounts)
this does seem a bit harsh but it's quite an easy solution


Drawbacks:

most of us who considered running lb have spent a lot of time/money/effort to gear up and also to make those alts, invest in them(time to lvl up and loadouts for each for example)
i myself made some alts specifically for this reason(even if i have none on lb rn)


so in the end would the dissatisfaction of these few players who can "exploit" this be less important to sts than the satisfaction of the other people who feel like the op of this thread(discouraged by multiple alts on lb)?
i myself am not sure; which is why i said "exploit"; i understand both points of view: one feels robbed of the chance for a lb reward and the other feels entitled to it since he can obtain it
This is an incredible idea, very rich and with many interesting things. Thank you for contributing to building a better LB

[Adek Nakal]

i kindly suggest you guys to get better at it

[drawfflerz]

I can use 10 phones on different wifi's and get lb on each even if they did the ip thing. There is no way to restrict this no matter what they do tbh.
Those players with lower gears can go for the top score that adds up.

Sent from my SM-S928U1 using Tapatalkthere is a way to do it. such as, register the item we use on the main alt for lb, and cant stash and locked it on single alt until last day of event.

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[Encryptions]

there is a way to do it. such as, register the item we use on the main alt for lb, and cant stash and locked it on single alt until last day of event.

Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using TapatalkThis would just enrage merchants and people who don't play the event but level their alts.

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[Snowman Is here]

Or or or….simply make separate lb for geared users and one that is a little similar to honor gear, everyone enters with same gear, no awakes, no crazy separation between power, just skill.

[Snowman Is here]

this way if there is any individual with enough skill (not abusing bugs) to dominate the lb then who can complain then?
Of course this should be a separate lb apart from the original.

[OoTrexoO]

Haters gonna hate lol

[Iahiasakt]

I truly feel most of the ideas above wont be implemented.

Banning IP is obviously a terrible idea and makes no sense at all.
Something like making certain items bound post entering the event is something that has never been done in the game for the past 11 years of the game’s existence and I doubt it will be. I also frankly think its against the spirit of the game to make a tradable item suddenly untradable. There is also the issue where the vast majority of players just try it out for fun to check how far they can go (including me). Iam sure they wouldn’t want their items bound for a period of 14 days. That makes no sense.

The amount of backlash this LB system is receiving is astounding. Calling the ridiculous monopoly opportunities created for the high geared players unfair would be nothing but an understatement. This backlash without a viable solution might I believe end in the cessation of existence of such an lb.

Coming to the only viable options thus far. One of them is to make all gear entry equal and make the lb completely based on skill (This will enrage the players who have spent time and money to collect and upgrade their gears but it will certainly make the lb extremely fair which should be the point of a leaderboard).
The other and more simpler way is to make the lb items bound. This will remove the unfair (from my perspective) advantage of a monopoly system given to the ultra geared, which have varying degrees of impact in an mmorpg game like this.

That being said Iam not interested in competing for the lb as Iam severely undergeared. My opinion is purely based on what I believe to be fair and will protect the spirit of a leaderboard.


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[Adek Nakal]

267751
thx .

[Hercules]

We already know, that will never change, I only suggest a new LB, a parallel one but everything bound. Or what was previously said

[Ilove_Poopoo]

I did a small survey in my union, and many are discouraged from competing because as they say: "You already know that those prizes will go to the same 6-7 players as always" It is sad and this is another big problem why there is little interest and participation in this temple. It's what I perceive. It's like all my friends were robbed of their hopes.

And yet the same excuse is still the "same players will win it" narrative. Why aren't there more people who can do better next time? This game has barely any players relative to other games with hundreds of thousands competing.

Players are more focused on blaming the winners who put all their effort throughout the years into polishing their gameplay instead of learning to be one of them.

[Snowman Is here]

And yet the same excuse is still the "same players will win it" narrative. Why aren't there more people who can do better next time? This game has barely any players relative to other games with hundreds of thousands competing.

Players are more focused on blaming the winners who put all their effort throughout the years into polishing their gameplay instead of learning to be one of them.

Polishing off their credit cards over the years maybe, not much competition to be had between the players who pay and the ones who can’t afford every new set that releases every 3 weeks. It’s boring.

Whenever sts releases events/gameplay that literally anyone and everyone can play to the full extent of their ability purely based on skill or teamwork without having to sacrifice an arm and a leg for the gears necessary to get lb spots or decent rewards is when this game thrives.

[Adek Nakal]

im sorry ,even if u could afford it u still wont make it anyway

[zynkor]

The only way to address this in these kinds of events would be to grant everyone the same time-limited, bound, non-awakable, non-upgradable gears at the start of the event and only allow them to play the event using those gears.
Sure, it won't solve the problem straight away, but at least now everyone will have the same chance of winning.

But tbh, it's not that hard to get in lb right now even if you're not p2w. I've played a few times and got like 74k score as a mage with average gears, not even stacking stats or anything. I can imagine if you have strong gears, good pets, and stack stats you can reach 100k+ score easily.

[Snowman Is here]

The only way to address this in these kinds of events would be to grant everyone the same time-limited, bound, non-awakable, non-upgradable gears at the start of the event and only allow them to play the event using those gears.
Sure, it won't solve the problem straight away, but at least now everyone will have the same chance of winning.

But tbh, it's not that hard to get in lb right now even if you're not p2w. I've played a few times and got like 74k score as a mage with average gears, not even stacking stats or anything. I can imagine if you have strong gears, good pets, and stack stats you can reach 100k+ score easily.

Agree completely, i’m sure there will always be game modes or separate leaderboards that will allow max geared players to compete for top place but this way at least everyone else, especially the lower geared or new players can have some fun during events like these and have an even playing field that promotes strategic gameplay.

[Hercules]

Other idea: The only thing you have to do in the temples is allow 1 character of each class per account... for example you have 2 wars on your account A and B, if you want B to enter the lb he must surpass your character A otherwise he will not appear and when between B, A disappears - passing the gear is avoided, they will only play with 1 player

- By Anonymous player