Feedback on Daily Blessings nerf.

[Bless]

Hey y'all, just read snakes thread about the blessing nerf and I certainly wouldn't be happy if they nerfed it. Here are some of my reasons why:

1. Ruins the whole point of DB (Daily Blessings) Sts made the daily blessings to reward platinum to people who can't buy it and they play regularly.

2. People who don't have credit cards (kids) OR people in countries where credit cards are banned, get left out because they can't access/buy plat and this is one of the reasons sts made DB.

3. If endgame is mainly based on platinum, then the people who cannot access platinum would miss out on a lot of things but DB balanced it out. If DB gets nerfed, those people would struggle because:

- They wouldn't be able to farm because they wouldn't have luck elixirs we all know no reroll pinks have a low drop rate

- They wouldn't level fast (150k required to lvl from 70-76) and if they don't cap fast, they'll miss out on elite dungeons. I know lots of people who quit because of this.

4. DB actually profited the devs, I say this because, people purchase a lot of platinum to buy character slots. people buying more and more platinum profited devs.

5. It would show that devs favor the paying customers than the people who don't buy platinum but spend as much amount of time as the paying people.

6. Low earnings of free platinum. We all know W3I is stingy when it comes to plat, I barely get 5 plat a day and DB was a great alternative, but if DB is nerfed then STS would have to find another way for free platinum earnings.

My birthday wish (yes it's my bday) is that STS DONT NERF DB please. But since I know sts wouldn't like all the toon armies, I have a solution: Make the 30 plat payout a LITTLE (not by a lot at all) rarer, but leave all others as they are. I would hate it if they removed DB altogether. Also make the 2500 (stupid) gold payout rare, I hate waiting 5 days (5k gold) and then getting a worthless 2.5k gold. I'm not telling sts how to do their job but as a community's voice, I would like it to happen.

~ Miracle

[Cobraguy]

4. DB actually profited the devs, I say this because, people purchase a lot of platinum to buy character slots. E.g. Zhau brought 800 platinum (about $50) to buy 160 character slots, people buying more and more platinum profited devs.

This is where the problem is. Why did he buy 160 toons? Theres no logical reason for this besides CHEATING the system. With that 800 plat spent and this whole thing not getting nerfed, chances are, this guy never has to buy plat again. After he earns back 800, its all profit from there. Where is the money then for support of the game. Think if everyone did this, after the initial $50 spent, they wouldnt have to spend any more.

Iv'e said it before and I'll say it again, this type of exploit is cheating, theres no two ways around it. If I was a dev and I had a say in it, I'd make it my duty to find all these cheaters and permaban them....

[Lightningspeed]

Agree with Cobraguy on this. The $50 investment by a certain person to buy 160 characters is a revenue for STS, definitely. But it's also an "investment" to obtain more and more platinum in the future. As a result, if the person is patient enough, he/she would not need to buy platinum ever again in the future, rendering potential revenue losses for STS in the long run. In the other thread, a suggestion was made to limit the platinum rewards per account, and that is a viable option in my opinion.

[Sciazaratek]

Would a poll make sense ?

- 1 toon
- < 5 toons
- 5 toons
- < 10 toons
- 10 toons
- < 15 toon
...

[Jsaieagle]

This is where the problem is. Why did he buy 160 toons? Theres no logical reason for this besides CHEATING the system. With that 800 plat spent and this whole thing not getting nerfed, chances are, this guy never has to buy plat again. After he earns back 800, its all profit from there. Where is the money then for support of the game. Think if everyone did this, after the initial $50 spent, they wouldnt have to spend any more.

Iv'e said it before and I'll say it again, this type of exploit is cheating, theres no two ways around it. If I was a dev and I had a say in it, I'd make it my duty to find all these cheaters and permaban them....

Agree!! And PL will be closed down..
So please... There is still chance to get FREE platinum! You don't really need platinum to play at endgame, of course it would be much easier with elixir.

If you really love PL, please support them instead of asking for more. It's just my opinion.

[Bless]

I do love pl but I am thinking about the whole community. There are not only people from US/UK/Aus playing. Think about others who DONT HAVE ACCESS TO ANY KIND OF PLAT/Banned countries.
+1 to the platinum reward per account idea.

[abbasjammmy]

Maybe they could keep it but to use it u have to hit a lvl req so people cant just buy slots and to db on lvl 1s

[Bless]

How about only L30+ can get PLATINUM rewards.

[Back]

How about 10 toons per account and all tonns should be of a certain lvl?

[Shellkaz]

<sighs> I was probaly the biggest supporter of a plat reward. I know I argued hard and long for the implementation of some kind of plat reward for players. Especially those in countries where they don't have access to credit cards and for younger players who don't have access to a credit card. I have several of them in my guild. I watched time and time again as players fell for the Plat Scams and I thought that a plat reward would be a great way to stop this.

If you all have noticed, there has not been nearly as many "I was Scammed" threads started since the daily blessings started. Maybe its the elixirs, maybe its the plat. I don't know. I do know that a lot of the folks that I talked to, only wanted a specific vanity item, like the Crimson Holo Shield, Pet or a Thrasher.

That people would exploit the reward system is foolish and greedy. They only end up ruining things for themselves and others. If the plat system hasn't been nerfed, I feel that it should be. My suggestion is that the Plat reward be scaled to either 5 or 10 plat. I know I was surprised to see that the maximum plat reward was 30 plat. I expected it to be more along the lines of DL and to be only 10 plat maximum.

I also feel that only toons above level 30 be allowed to get the plat reward. I think that this might help to deter the "Plat Farmers" I honestly regret that something that I argued so hard for has been exploited to the point that STS has to do something about the issue. It is an exploit and I believe that if a player created multiple toons for the specific purpose of collecting plat, then the accounts in question should be banned.

[Bless]

<sighs> I was probaly the biggest supporter of a plat reward. I know I argued hard and long for the implementation of some kind of plat reward for players. Especially those in countries where they don't have access to credit cards and for younger players who don't have access to a credit card. I have several of them in my guild. I watched time and time again as players fell for the Plat Scams and I thought that a plat reward would be a great way to stop this.

If you all have noticed, there has not been nearly as many "I was Scammed" threads started since the daily blessings started. Maybe its the elixirs, maybe its the plat. I don't know. I do know that a lot of the folks that I talked to, only wanted a specific vanity item, like the Crimson Holo Shield, Pet or a Thrasher.

That people would exploit the reward system is foolish and greedy. They only end up ruining things for themselves and others. If the plat system hasn't been nerfed, I feel that it should be. My suggestion is that the Plat reward be scaled to either 5 or 10 plat. I know I was surprised to see that the maximum plat reward was 30 plat. I expected it to be more along the lines of DL and to be only 10 plat maximum.

I also feel that only toons above level 30 be allowed to get the plat reward. I think that this might help to deter the "Plat Farmers" I honestly regret that something that I argued so hard for has been exploited to the point that STS has to do something about the issue. It is an exploit and I believe that if a player created multiple toons for the specific purpose of collecting plat, then the accounts in question should be banned. now this guy is getting my point.

May I add to that? If sts is going to put the maximum plat for example 10, then the reward shouldn't be that rare, plat rewards should be common if the cap is 10 plat. Hoping cap would be like 15-20 cuz 10 plat can't buy me nothing and waiting 5 days :/ plat offers give me more hehe.

[vle_hoang]

Since when it got nefed? I got 3x30 plat + 2x10 plats from 30 toons yesterday.

[Bless]

30 toons yesterday. that's what they mean by abuse

[onemadzhau]

Hey miracle that was a sarcastic joke I don't think anyone has the time to make that many toons lol I have 7 chars and have had 7 for a while lol

[Bless]

Hey miracle that was a sarcastic joke I don't think anyone has the time to make that many toons lol I have 7 chars and have had 7 for a while lol sorry if it sounded kinda rude but I was just giving an example hehe didn't wanna offend anyone.

[Bunnyshoota]

Completely agree. Where did you see this thread though?

[onemadzhau]

sorry if it sounded kinda rude but I was just giving an example hehe didn't wanna offend anyone.

Well nothing like making your "bud" look like a cheater and an exploiter. I've spent over 900$ on this game. So sts knows where the exploiters are, :/

[Bless]

sorry if it sounded kinda rude but I was just giving an example hehe didn't wanna offend anyone.

Well nothing like making your "bud" look like a cheater and an exploiter. I've spent over 900$ on this game. So sts knows where the exploiters are, :/ The intention was not that we both know it. I edited it out, theres lots of people who do do that, but I misunderstood from ur post, I didnt know if u were serious. Chillax.

[Heroelite]

Or STs shold make a max of like 100 platinum (idk) max earned each week. Once you reach that you can only get the gold and elixirs and vanities.

[Energizeric]

Even the 1k gold per day reward on every blessing adds up if you got like 50 or 100 toons. Gold should be eliminated completely from blessings. Everyone can farm for gold whether or not you have plat.

Regarding plat, just make the rewards more rare. And add a slight delay to changing between toons. Short enough so that those who change between toons to play another toon will not care, but those rapidly changing between toons just to collect a blessing and then change toons again will get annoyed.

[Kixxler]

How about only L30+ can get PLATINUM rewards.

Much better, people are just creating random characters for DB rewards

[LwMark]

Remove the little quest guy in the beginning, an like others said make it where u have to be l30+ , maybe make a quest where u have to do soemthin for the elf queen? An once u do it for her she grants u access to the blessings chest, an maybe instead of just easily clickin on the inspec page to continue your blessings, u have to actually travel to the chest somewhere in game where u have to click on the chest? To receive the blessings.
Imo many plat farmers would not farm plat anymore,because this would be way to complicated.
Honestly i stopped doin blessings after i got all the shield, i cant even keep up with 1 toon, forget the 10+ toons i have, blahhh

[Slcinuup]

Plat cap from DB each day problem solved

[LwMark]

Plat cap from DB each day problem solved
A little text will appear " sorry you can not recieve ur 30 free plat cause u recieved your cap for the day, goodbye"

[Bless]

Plat cap from DB each day problem solved no. That'd be a waste of a day 5.

[vle_hoang]

I had 25 toons before they release the DB Update, just bought 5 more slots since the update. Personaly, the sugestion of lvl 30+ for DB is great since poeple will have alot less chance for abusing, exploiting the DB.

[Energizeric]

Here is the solution: Put a cap on each account of 5 daily blessings per day. You can choose whichever toons you want, but you cannot get more than 5 each day. Problem solved! Really, it wouldn't even be unfair if they were to allow on 1 daily blessing per day. The purpose of the daily blessing was to give something free to each player/account, not to each toon. So even if you only got one blessing each day, you would still get free items/plat/gold/elixirs.

[Bous]

I think if they are going to Nerf there should be a limit on 20 chars

[LwMark]

If they guna nerf just add all the extra 2500s and plat to my accnt, its ok i wont b mad

[springtime]

Limit the amount if toons one can create...

[Ogbuehi]

I'm not really affected by this. The best 5 day reward I've gotten is the gold. Never gotten more than 1 platinum. Nerd away I say.

[Rot]

This is where the problem is. Why did he buy 160 toons? Theres no logical reason for this besides CHEATING the system. With that 800 plat spent and this whole thing not getting nerfed, chances are, this guy never has to buy plat again. After he earns back 800, its all profit from there. Where is the money then for support of the game. Think if everyone did this, after the initial $50 spent, they wouldnt have to spend any more.

Iv'e said it before and I'll say it again, this type of exploit is cheating, theres no two ways around it. If I was a dev and I had a say in it, I'd make it my duty to find all these cheaters and permaban them....

160x5=800. GG.

[vle_hoang]

This is where the problem is. Why did he buy 160 toons? Theres no logical reason for this besides CHEATING the system. With that 800 plat spent and this whole thing not getting nerfed, chances are, this guy never has to buy plat again. After he earns back 800, its all profit from there. Where is the money then for support of the game. Think if everyone did this, after the initial $50 spent, they wouldnt have to spend any more.

Iv'e said it before and I'll say it again, this type of exploit is cheating, theres no two ways around it. If I was a dev and I had a say in it, I'd make it my duty to find all these cheaters and permaban them....

Could you ban em all? what if some other peole are making 320 toons and dont show off on forum and noone knows? As i said before: Dont hate the players, hate the game. Its an online game, and as far as i know, in all online games people will find a way to abuse/exploit/hax/bot so devs have to works alot to prevent this. In some other thread, some people said that there is a bot in PL (i didnt know that exist) but noone ever give a danm things about it, so why dont bann em too?

[ShadowGunX]

I'm not really affected by this. The best 5 day reward I've gotten is the gold. Never gotten more than 1 platinum. Nerd away I say.

same. lol nt more den 1plat. nd got stupid vanity shields

[Cobraguy]

Could you ban em all? what if some other peole are making 320 toons and dont show off on forum and noone knows? As i said before: Dont hate the players, hate the game. Its an online game, and as far as i know, in all online games people will find a way to abuse/exploit/hax/bot so devs have to works alot to prevent this. In some other thread, some people said that there is a bot in PL (i didnt know that exist) but noone ever give a danm things about it, so why dont bann em too?

I'm sure if I was a programmer I could actually do this. Probably not that hard to run a script and find tens to hundreds (estimate) of players who have over a certain amount of toons. After that it would be easy to find when these extra toons were made. As a matter of fact, check your own account history and it will show you exactly when you bought an extra toon slot. If you as a player are able to see that, imagine what I as a developer theoretically could see.

[Defencer]

I played and enjoyed PL and i payed (about 50 $ each month) for playing by buying plat. But now (i`m lvl 76) i HAVE TO PAY for playing BSM. It would have been better to limit the number of toons. Keep your useless vanities - i keep my money. It`s a lie to say, pl is free to play. pl WAS free to play.

[Alalakcity]

i think maybe im must retired and search other cool game :tranquillity:

and i think much people think like me now...

[Rare]

Iv'e said it before and I'll say it again, this type of exploit is cheating, theres no two ways around it. If I was a dev and I had a say in it, I'd make it my duty to find all these cheaters and permaban them....

Well, this is something STS knew about from the beginning and didn't do anything about it for so long. So in this sense, a lot of people probably felt STS didn't care.

[Superduper]

This is where the problem is. Why did he buy 160 toons? Theres no logical reason for this besides CHEATING the system. With that 800 plat spent and this whole thing not getting nerfed, chances are, this guy never has to buy plat again. After he earns back 800, its all profit from there. Where is the money then for support of the game. Think if everyone did this, after the initial $50 spent, they wouldnt have to spend any more.

Iv'e said it before and I'll say it again, this type of exploit is cheating, theres no two ways around it. If I was a dev and I had a say in it, I'd make it my duty to find all these cheaters and permaban them....
Not to mention all the gold he would acquire. I mean 100k a day like nothing

[Suentous PO]

I played and enjoyed PL and i payed (about 50 $ each month) for playing by buying plat. But now (i`m lvl 76) i HAVE TO PAY for playing BSM. It would have been better to limit the number of toons. Keep your useless vanities - i keep my money. It`s a lie to say, pl is free to play. pl WAS free to play.
Name one thing, what are you forced to pay?

[Bless]

I played and enjoyed PL and i payed (about 50 $ each month) for playing by buying plat. But now (i`m lvl 76) i HAVE TO PAY for playing BSM. It would have been better to limit the number of toons. Keep your useless vanities - i keep my money. It`s a lie to say, pl is free to play. pl WAS free to play.
Name one thing, what are you forced to pay? Force is not a word I would use but it is almost a necessity to buy plat. Endgame heavily depends on platinum now, platinum rich kids have a far bigger advantage than 0 plat people. They can buy any elixir, gold, sets, you name it as long as they have their wallet. STS doesn't favor the non paying players, because they took off daily blessings, they could have solved the problem - only L30+ can receive platinum, but instead they ripped the gold/plat out meaning the broke people left hanging.

[Ptaka]

How about only L30+ can get PLATINUM rewards.

What he said. L30 is a little low though. And it should always be changing. I'd like to see "the only toons who can get a plat reward are those at the max level prior to the update".... what I mean is that the current max is 76. Those toons between 70 and 76 should be able to get rewards.

[Ptaka]

I played and enjoyed PL and i payed (about 50 $ each month) for playing by buying plat. But now (i`m lvl 76) i HAVE TO PAY for playing BSM. It would have been better to limit the number of toons. Keep your useless vanities - i keep my money. It`s a lie to say, pl is free to play. pl WAS free to play.

I haven't spent a real dollar on the game. i have 200 platinum. $4m gold. And all pink level 75 dex gear (not crafted yet). PL can be free.

[Suentous PO]

Up untill this cap I had a character I wouldn't use elixirs on or spend plat. The only reason I changed this is because elixirs are now free. You absolutely can play without plat. People confuse want and desire. That a business favors money shouldn't surprise you.

[Bless]

I played and enjoyed PL and i payed (about 50 $ each month) for playing by buying plat. But now (i`m lvl 76) i HAVE TO PAY for playing BSM. It would have been better to limit the number of toons. Keep your useless vanities - i keep my money. It`s a lie to say, pl is free to play. pl WAS free to play.

I haven't spent a real dollar on the game. i have 200 platinum. $4m gold. And all pink level 75 dex gear (not crafted yet). PL can be free. Well it could be argued that,

It doesnt mean anything unless you tell us how much time you spent achieveing all that :P

[Ptaka]

Well it could be argued that,

It doesnt mean anything unless you tell us how much time you spent achieveing all that :P

gosh, i dont know. not a whole lot. 30 min to an hour a night. maybe 3 or 4x a week.

[itzyou]

why not make a cap at 10 characters and refund platinum..

[Otahaibab]

I dont think i will be able to cap adter invesring 800 plat to go from 72-75 and i still have 40k left plus i got about 41 plat atm....daily blessing was my last hope and thats gone to...i dont wanna let this game go a second time but its really not giving me a choice...

[Energizeric]

I dont think i will be able to cap adter invesring 800 plat to go from 72-75 and i still have 40k left plus i got about 41 plat atm....daily blessing was my last hope and thats gone to...i dont wanna let this game go a second time but its really not giving me a choice...

Sounds like you spent it very poorly. I capped in the first 4 days (I got the egg) and spent less than 400 plat doing it.