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wuciwug
09-10-2024, 06:47 AM
Why is this prohibited?
I mean, if in the case of selling gold/accounts, everything is clear. In this case, the company suffers losses...

But in the case of nicknames it is completely different..

The game has a fairly limited number of nicknames
Considering the game is almost 12 years old, it is almost impossible, if not impossible, for new players to find a unique nickname that does not duplicate letters or makes sense.
What about nicknames with 3 letters? M?

All good nicknames are taken by those who have been playing for a long time... And if you lost your account, or something else, then you will be forced to go with a miserable nickname.. It is very frustrating
What about nicknames stored on accounts that are banned forever? And an account could have 30+ or even more characters, this further reduces the number of available nicknames

What I mean is that it seems completely normal to me to make the sale of nicknames legal... One way or another, people still do it, but only among those who are trusted, and if you are not too careful, then these nicknames are lost forever due to a ban..

Also, to change your nickname, you need 30 platinum.. Not everyone buys platinum eggs, many prefer to donate to the game, it is more reliable and easier. So the company will not only not suffer losses from this, but can also receive a possible profit, perhaps a small one, but still the fact..

I'm talking specifically about selling for gold.
So that the nickname on par with gear and vanity

In Telegram, all usernames are also unique, and because of their limitations, they were raised to NFT

I really hope that I am not the only one who thinks so and that you will treat this topic with understanding.

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THE GOLDEN KING
09-10-2024, 08:40 AM
What name did you want to buy that made you create this entire thread to justify buying and selling names?


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Leyit
09-10-2024, 09:23 AM
i agree you until one point, making igns legal to buy and sell with in game items or currency. but banned igns are shouldnt comeback in my opinion. or in worst case maybe we will have username and display name diffirent. username feature will stop or reduce using alts to make fake offers, scamming, begging in maps or whatever else possible (i dont know if its a thing but, will multiple characters in one account be in same LB? if yes then it will also be prevented with this way, making LB by username).

end of the day, having a unique and cool ign is hard i agree with that, even tho i tried in 3 diffirent languages i still couldn't have something i would really like to have as my ign. i dont see as its a big deal tho.

Heev
09-10-2024, 10:22 AM
I like the initial idea, but it could cause a lot of problems.

the nickname is the only thing that fixes an account to certain acts that someone has already committed.

for example, if I do a lot of wrong things and then sell my nickname, whoever uses it will bear all the trouble for my actions. and even if you can prove through history that the nickname came from someone else, how are you going to prove that that person wasn't you, getting rid of suspicion and throwing the nickname into another account of yours, thus leaving the blame on another character who you won't use it anymore.



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wuciwug
09-10-2024, 12:13 PM
What name did you want to buy that made you create this entire thread to justify buying and selling names?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkNot a specific nickname...

It's just that when I returned to the game after a long break, with a clean account, I encountered the fact that in addition to the fact that the slots that all the old players opened almost for free, now you have to buy it, and it's very expensive

Besides the fact that it is now more difficult for a newcomer to get used to the situation among those who already have billions, he also has to go around with a miserable nickname...

So I thought it would be great if the nick trading became open

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wuciwug
09-10-2024, 12:20 PM
I like the initial idea, but it could cause a lot of problems.

the nickname is the only thing that fixes an account to certain acts that someone has already committed.

for example, if I do a lot of wrong things and then sell my nickname, whoever uses it will bear all the trouble for my actions. and even if you can prove through history that the nickname came from someone else, how are you going to prove that that person wasn't you, getting rid of suspicion and throwing the nickname into another account of yours, thus leaving the blame on another character who you won't use it anymore.



[translator was used to create this comment]Absolutely the same thing is happening now, so nothing will change

Let me explain. Even now, when a bad person scammed someone, or somehow violated the terms of use, he goes and changes his nickname, hoping that this way he will avoid punishment.

Accordingly, the nickname under which he violated these rules/scammed someone is released, and absolutely anyone can take this nickname, without even suspecting anything

Yes, selling nicknames is used to cover up tracks. This is a fairly common scheme. But it already works in this game, so legalizing the sale of nicknames will not change this situation

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wuciwug
09-10-2024, 12:24 PM
i agree you until one point, making igns legal to buy and sell with in game items or currency. but banned igns are shouldnt comeback in my opinion. or in worst case maybe we will have username and display name diffirent. username feature will stop or reduce using alts to make fake offers, scamming, begging in maps or whatever else possible (i dont know if its a thing but, will multiple characters in one account be in same LB? if yes then it will also be prevented with this way, making LB by username).

end of the day, having a unique and cool ign is hard i agree with that, even tho i tried in 3 diffirent languages i still couldn't have something i would really like to have as my ign. i dont see as its a big deal tho.I would like to add that I also looked for nicknames in different languages

I wrote Russian words in transliteration, looked for words in German and Latin, and even in a dictionary with "forgotten" words that have already gone out of use, those that have at least some interesting meaning, most of them are already taken

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Heev
09-10-2024, 02:13 PM
Absolutely the same thing is happening now, so nothing will change

Let me explain. Even now, when a bad person scammed someone, or somehow violated the terms of use, he goes and changes his nickname, hoping that this way he will avoid punishment.

Accordingly, the nickname under which he violated these rules/scammed someone is released, and absolutely anyone can take this nickname, without even suspecting anything

Yes, selling nicknames is used to cover up tracks. This is a fairly common scheme. But it already works in this game, so legalizing the sale of nicknames will not change this situation

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this would cause changes to the terms.
and it would have to bring back many who were already banned for these reasons.

It is against the rules for you to sell the nickname, if someone buys a nickname that person is agreeing to the risk of assuming the possible problems that this will cause. this way the team will be able to comply with its rules by applying them correctly.

If the sale of nicknames is allowed, the team will not be able to act in accordance with all the rules. a person can just say that he acquired the nickname when purchasing it and thus get rid of all accusations since changing the nickname would be allowed, the team cannot go against it, there would not even be a way to prove that he actually bought it legally or just changed it the character changing the nickname to get rid of the acts committed on the other character.



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wuciwug
09-10-2024, 07:49 PM
this would cause changes to the terms.
and it would have to bring back many who were already banned for these reasons.

It is against the rules for you to sell the nickname, if someone buys a nickname that person is agreeing to the risk of assuming the possible problems that this will cause. this way the team will be able to comply with its rules by applying them correctly.

If the sale of nicknames is allowed, the team will not be able to act in accordance with all the rules. a person can just say that he acquired the nickname when purchasing it and thus get rid of all accusations since changing the nickname would be allowed, the team cannot go against it, there would not even be a way to prove that he actually bought it legally or just changed it the character changing the nickname to get rid of the acts committed on the other character.



[translator was used to create this comment]as it seemed to me, STS can track when and how the nickname on the account changed

also STS sees IP and the device from which the account was logged in

why should they have to dilute those who were blocked?
We can imagine the situation with coronavirus. Those who violated house arrest faced a fine or something like that.
And when the ban on leaving the house was lifted, everyone was able to go outside without any problem. But those who violated the rule while it was in effect did not get their money back, which they paid for the fine

I mean it's quite normal that the rules can change depending on the situation
and those who violated the rule during the ban on selling nicknames took what they were doing and that it was prohibited, so i don't understand why there is any point in talking about unblocking those who did this when it was prohibited

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Zzzpezdoszzz
09-11-2024, 01:57 AM
+1, need flexibility in choosing IGN.
Sometimes I walk around the city and am amazed at the strange nicknames people are forced to take. They add random letters around the nickname like Z or X, it's terrible bro

asommers
09-11-2024, 03:35 PM
Sorry, no plans to change this.

-ALS

wuciwug
09-12-2024, 05:15 AM
Sorry, no plans to change this.

-ALScan you explain the reason? I'm just wondering how the punishment for selling a nickname is justified

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Rareitems
09-13-2024, 09:30 AM
Pointless tbh

Kira_21
09-14-2024, 02:33 AM
This thread doesn't makes sense at all. Selling ign gives more scammers some opportunity for it. That's why this should prohibited at all times. Even if you can't think some ign's or you can. But this can get everyone get scammed.
For example:
Player 1 Post some spam message on some outposts
Player 1: I am buying Ign's for Gold

What would you think if you saw that? You're going to doubt, Right? I don't know what you going to point on this but this should not be legal.
I'm going to against this.