Guild Wars 2

[Thelastblink]

Just wondering guys, i'm thinking of buying Guild Wars 2, is it good? I have questions:
1. Is pvp implemented in it? If it is is it good and skill-based
2. Is pve good? Does it require skill?
Thats all I need to know for now! :D

[Thelastblink]

Anyone?

[MightyMicah]

I have it and yes to all your questions!

Pvp is amazing. No matter what class you pick, you will succeed. Some classes are better than others but there is no dominate class.

Pve is fun as heck! I'm a die hard pvper and I've been doing more pve than pvp. That's saying something! Haha it really is a great game. Especially since its a purchase and then you're done kind of deal. No subscriptions. No constantly being nickeled and dimed to death in a "free" mmo.

[Cascade]

I do a ton of PvE and I have to say it's the best i've ever played! The events are very fun and not that tedious. It works in real-time for example. You get a quest to escort the kings daughter to his castle but you fail the quest because she got kidnapped by bandits. You, therefore, get a follow-up quest to rescue the daughter from the bandit camp! Really good guild system too. I'm loving it! If you get the game come join the server Kaineng, it's the one i'm on and you can join my guild if you like. Check out our site at http://assassinsofcascadia.shivtr.com/forums.

EDIT: If you want a free trial I can give you one but it only lasts till the 18th so you need to respond quickly. Check out the thread about it here: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?75172-Guild-Wars-2-giveaway-(limited-play-time)

[Thelastblink]

Thanks guys! :D LAST QUESTION!
How much space does GW2 take up? Will it work on my laptop which has intel centrino 2 and Windows Vista? Apparently I have 96.1 GB left on my Local Disk (C) and 193 GB on Local Disk (D) or something.

[vampinoy]

Played Guildwars 1 for years, and been playing GW2 since first week of release (unfortunately, I missed the Beta Weekend)...to your questions:

1. Is PvP implemented? Guildwars' grass roots is PvP. Is it good? Let's just say It's better than WoW, Secret World, SWTOR, and Rift combined...and closest would be Tera Online but GW2 is still better because of World vs World. Played those games too. Does it require skill? Hell yes. If you don't have background in PC MMOs and just coming off Pocket Legends or any STS games...be prepared to be blown away. It's very hard to put into writing stuff about PvP because it's huge, so much to tell from SPVP to World vs World. Explore this website for information, everything in paper you need to know is there, the rest you'll just have to see for yourself: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Main_Page

2. PvE good? It's the best. It requires skill. Please visit the site above.

Overall, I'm convinced that GW2 is the best MMO out there right now. I've played other games and I just can't see them beating GW2 overall...if you're planning on playing an MMO in PC, GW2 is your best choice. You won't regret it buddy.

[vampinoy]

Thanks guys! :D LAST QUESTION!
How much space does GW2 take up? Will it work on my laptop which has intel centrino 2 and Windows Vista? Apparently I have 96.1 GB left on my Local Disk (C) and 193 GB on Local Disk (D) or something.

Just make sure you have 25 GB free space, you're good. For minimum requirements, follow this link and scroll down: https://buy.guildwars2.com/en/

Note: Minimum requirements are just for you to run the game in low setting, but you'll have to go higher if you want better performance. :D I wouldn't suggest laptop unless it's Mac.

[Thelastblink]

Played Guildwars 1 for years, and been playing GW2 since first week of release (unfortunately, I missed the Beta Weekend)...to your questions:

1. Is PvP implemented? Guildwars' grass roots is PvP. Is it good? Let's just say It's better than WoW, Secret World, SWTOR, and Rift combined...and closest would be Tera Online but GW2 is still better because of World vs World. Played those games too. Does it require skill? Hell yes. If you don't have background in PC MMOs and just coming off Pocket Legends or any STS games...be prepared to be blown away. It's very hard to put into writing stuff about PvP because it's huge, so much to tell from SPVP to World vs World. Explore this website for information, everything in paper you need to know is there, the rest you'll just have to see for yourself: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Main_Page

2. PvE good? It's the best. It requires skill. Please visit the site above.

Overall, I'm convinced that GW2 is the best MMO out there right now. I've played other games and I just can't see them beating GW2 overall...if you're planning on playing an MMO in PC, GW2 is your best choice. You won't regret it buddy.

THANKS! :D But unfortunately I only have 2 laptops :( Does that mean I can't get it?

[MightyMicah]

THANKS! :D But unfortunately I only have 2 laptops :( Does that mean I can't get it?

Laptop or MacBook? The Mac client is in beta form at the moment :)

[Thelastblink]

Laptop or MacBook? The Mac client is in beta form at the moment :)

Laptop, the Samsung R620 if you need the model.

[MightyMicah]

Laptop, the Samsung R620 if you need the model.

Hmm I suppose it's possible that a laptop could work. Just visit Guildwars2.com and check out the system requirements! ;)

[Thelastblink]

I have 90GB left on my hardrive space, on the site it said you need 25, will it lag my laptop a lot?

[vampinoy]

Hard disk doesn't have anything to do with lag, it's just that, a storage area for your files. If you're concerned with lag, on your side, the key factor would still be your internet connection and maybe a little bit on your network device (router), though I would suggest directly connecting your computer to the cable :D Your main issue that you need to address with your laptop isn't lag but FPS (frames per second), you need to have enough juice behind your system that will generate a "playable" FPS. In Guildwars 2 (and in many games), that's probably around 30 FPS, anything below, and you will feel the same sensation of a "lag". 60 is probably the optimal, since anything beyond 60 wouldn't make much of a difference really...just bragging rights.

I still think gaming laptops are not the way to go as laptops were never meant to be used for this kind of stress. I would still suggest you invest on a desktop if you're planning to play games long-term. Guildwars 2 will test your PC/laptop when it comes to World vs. World where you have 30-50+ people in your screen, that can instantly bring down your FPS to single digits if your system doesn't have decent components. If you don't know how this is bad, imagine playing a game with a CCTV video quality (the stop-and-go quality).

The only way for your laptop to run like a desktop is if you upgrade it which is very expensive might as well try to assemble your own desktop. Not to mention, in the future when you upgrade your system, it's cheaper in desktop. So...you really have to invest and work for your system first before you consider playing these games. You might end up rage quitting really, it's so frustrating to have a system that cannot run games properly. Go to guildwars2 website, they have a section there that have people talk about the latest and best components to run the game, you might pick up a thing or two :D Good luck!

[Thelastblink]

Hard disk doesn't have anything to do with lag, it's just that, a storage area for your files. If you're concerned with lag, on your side, the key factor would still be your internet connection and maybe a little bit on your network device (router), though I would suggest directly connecting your computer to the cable :D Your main issue that you need to address with your laptop isn't lag but FPS (frames per second), you need to have enough juice behind your system that will generate a "playable" FPS. In Guildwars 2 (and in many games), that's probably around 30 FPS, anything below, and you will feel the same sensation of a "lag". 60 is probably the optimal, since anything beyond 60 wouldn't make much of a difference really...just bragging rights.

I still think gaming laptops are not the way to go as laptops were never meant to be used for this kind of stress. I would still suggest you invest on a desktop if you're planning to play games long-term. Guildwars 2 will test your PC/laptop when it comes to World vs. World where you have 30-50+ people in your screen, that can instantly bring down your FPS to single digits if your system doesn't have decent components. If you don't know how this is bad, imagine playing a game with a CCTV video quality (the stop-and-go quality).

The only way for your laptop to run like a desktop is if you upgrade it which is very expensive might as well try to assemble your own desktop. Not to mention, in the future when you upgrade your system, it's cheaper in desktop. So...you really have to invest and work for your system first before you consider playing these games. You might end up rage quitting really, it's so frustrating to have a system that cannot run games properly. Go to guildwars2 website, they have a section there that have people talk about the latest and best components to run the game, you might pick up a thing or two :D Good luck!

TY! :D Its a hard decision :( I can run game like League Of Legends on my laptop without any lag but I dont think GW2 can be compared to LOL. So do you mean I can't play GW2 on my laptop without upgrading it?

[vampinoy]

TY! :D Its a hard decision :( I can run game like League Of Legends on my laptop without any lag but I dont think GW2 can be compared to LOL. So do you mean I can't play GW2 on my laptop without upgrading it?

Again, the lag thing would have nothing to do with your laptop directly. On your side, It's your ISP and router mainly doing the job as far as latency is concerned. On the game's side, it's their server location and quality. So you can have the best ISP in the world but if you're too far away from the server and if the server is not powerful enough to address the distance, then you will still have bad latency, so it's highly possible that your LOL has better latency than GW2, depending on your ISP, router, your distance from the game servers, and the quality of the game's servers. This is also the main reason why you have servers in main continents of the world like North America, Europe, and Asia, to address the distance issue of servers from their customers, :D So you might want to check how far you are from the GW2 servers too, that will play a huge role when it comes to your latency. So you'll want to pick a server nearest to you as a rule of thumb. Just an fun fact, GW2's server is located in Austin, Texas too, just like STS, ain't that something? :D You can have top of the line components but if you have bad ISP and the game's servers are sub par, you will still lag. So those are the main factors of lag in gaming generally.

Now on your system, lag is not your issue but the performance usually measured by FPS in games such as Guildwars 2. Think of FPS as PL's ping :D The only difference is, the higher the FPS, the better. Now, FPS has everything to do with how huge the game is because your computer must be able to process each frame's content as fast as possible. The best way to describe this is imagine drawing a series of cartoon in as many pages in your sketchbook as you can, then flip the pages as quickly as you can, you'll create the illusion of that cartoon in motion. The same concept applies in FPS. The system must be powerful enough to draw the entire screen and flip the screens as quickly as possible to create motion pictures. Remember, unless it's the real thing (real world) everything you see in TV, monitor, laptop, are nothing but still images being moved quickly to create illusions of movements, they're not really moving :D So the faster each frame gets processed, the smoother the movements are, likewise, the slower it is, the sluggier the gameplay gets which tends to create a lagging effect (which is also called FPS lag, not to be mistaken as latency lag).

That being said, you're right, LOL is not GW2, because GW2 is a lot bigger than LOL, the system needs to work more in order to process every frame. Unfortunately, laptops generally don't have enough juice behind their components to write as fast as Desktop, therefore, the images will come in at a much slower rate unless you upgrade your components which is very expensive and not practical (The only reason why people should invest in gaming laptops is if their jobs involve moving around places (for example, being a 007 agent or something LOL)...otherwise, if you have a home that you go to everyday, it's just not practical...and IMO, just for bragging rights.

You can play GW2 on your laptop if you meet the requirements, but you cannot run it smoothly unless you upgrade your main components (video card especially). These components are much more expensive in laptop than in desktop, it's hard to find desktop components that would fit inside your laptop or compatible. So...I dunno, everything's a lot easier with desktop. But if you're decided to go with a laptop, go ahead, try to run GW2...then upgrade accordingly :D

[MightyMicah]

If you decide to get it, hit me up! Just send me a pm here on the forums or something and we'll see if we can meet up in game!

[Thelastblink]

DAYUM! :( Looks like I'm not getting it!...
I still have one more chance! I emailed GW2 support.

[Thelastblink]

Is Guild Wars 2 worth purchasing if you will only play it a little?

[MightyMicah]

Is Guild Wars 2 worth purchasing if you will only play it a little?

Hmm definitely. I've had it over a month and am still only level 31 :D

[Cascade]

I'm lvl 44 and i've had it since the first week of october.

[vampinoy]

Is Guild Wars 2 worth purchasing if you will only play it a little?

Every minute is a worth it :D The game is just that amazing. Keep us posted.

[Thelastblink]

Thanks guys! :D Is it more fun than PL? Also, for minimum requirements it says Intel Core Duo 2.0 GHz, but my laptop has core i7 but runs at like 1.5 GHz. That's ok right, cos I think core i7 is pretty new and better than Intel Core Duo 2.0?

[Cascade]

Yes it is much more fun than PL because it is a full fledged MMO.

[Thelastblink]

Thanks guys! :D Is it more fun than PL? Also, for minimum requirements it says Intel Core Duo 2.0 GHz, but my laptop has core i7 but runs at like 1.5 GHz. That's ok right, cos I think core i7 is pretty new and better than Intel Core Duo 2.0?

I need you guys to answer that :)
https://buy.guildwars2.com/en/ Link is here!

[zeusabe]

Thanks guys! :D Is it more fun than PL? Also, for minimum requirements it says Intel Core Duo 2.0 GHz, but my laptop has core i7 but runs at like 1.5 GHz. That's ok right, cos I think core i7 is pretty new and better than Intel Core Duo 2.0?

Yup more fun than PL...you're like comparing a short skit to a mega-blockbuster film, I'm not exaggerating. Yup, that's a high end processor already. Next up, you need a decent Video Card...here's a very helpful link to guide you:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0As6JzAgBwEesdHlTdk90MjltaURaTGdLdHAwQktkb kE

After you determined your CPU, RAM, CPU, Video Card...You need to have a good cooling system, after that, you need to know how much power your system will need and buy a good power supply, after that you're good to go :D Good luck and make it quick, you don't want to miss Wintersday in Guildwars 2 :P

[Thelastblink]

Yup more fun than PL...you're like comparing a short skit to a mega-blockbuster film, I'm not exaggerating. It's almost insulting for GW2 to be compared to PL. Yup, that's a high end processor already. Next up, you need a decent Video Card...here's a very helpful link to guide you:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0As6JzAgBwEesdHlTdk90MjltaURaTGdLdHAwQktkb kE

After you determined your CPU, RAM, CPU, Video Card...You need to have a good cooling system, after that, you need to know how much power your system will need and buy a good power supply, after that you're good to go :D

Apparently my computer doesn't heat as it has this SSD thing or something. And thank you :D But I don't get what you mean by need to know how much power your system will need and buy a good power supply. Btw, is video card graphics card?

[zeusabe]

Apparently my computer doesn't heat as it has this SSD thing or something. And thank you :D But I don't get what you mean by need to know how much power your system will need and buy a good power supply. Btw, is video card graphics card?

SSD has nothing to do with your computer heating, it's simply a high end alternative of your HDD (Hard Disk), it function the same as your HDD but it has more power behind it making you load your files a lot quicker. What usually makes your computer heat up is your CPU, the more graphic-intensive your application gets, or the more application you're running at the same time, the more work the CPU makes and the more heat is produced. Your CPU is where all the labor happens in your computer, so all heat will be coming from there. Your laptop should have a built-in fan but sometimes that's not enough especially for long time gaming. If your computer isn't heating up while playing GW2, then you don't need a new cooling system.

Each of your component demands power, when you total it, your power supply must have enough watts to supply to accommodate it.

Yes, Video Card is Graphics Card aka GPU :D

PS: If you're not changing anything in your current setup, you don't need to worry about power supply :D

[Thelastblink]

Did lots of research, I have Intel HD Graphics 4000... Will that be good enough to play?

[zeusabe]

Did lots of research, I have Intel HD Graphics 4000... Will that be good enough to play?

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Guild-Wars-2-Benchmarked.81604.0.html

Go to the link above and scroll down or search for Intel 4000, they tested its performance and came out with the ff:

LOW setting (Best performance preset) : 37 FPS
HIGH setting (Best appearance preset) : 12 FPS
ULTRA setting (All maximum/On FXAA) : 5 FPS

Skimmed through the article a little bit and it seems like the tests were conducted during exploration where there's least stress to your Video Card. Those figures will dramatically go down as you encounter more enemies on screen...in world vs world PVP, you will encounter 30+ people even more in your screen so that 37 FPS achieved in exploration can plummet down to single digits even at low setting in World vs World PVP where everyone is.

So I think your current Video Card can probably let you explore the world with small skirmishes in low setting (which a let down, the game is so beautiful at high to ultra setting)...but the moment things get heated up with more enemies and more players in your screen...your screen may start to stutter (looks like lag).

I think you need to consider upgrading your Video Card.

[Thelastblink]

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Guild-Wars-2-Benchmarked.81604.0.html

Go to the link above and scroll down or search for Intel 4000, they tested its performance and came out with the ff:

LOW setting (Best performance preset) : 37 FPS
HIGH setting (Best appearance preset) : 12 FPS
ULTRA setting (All maximum/On FXAA) : 5 FPS

Skimmed through the article a little bit and it seems like the tests were conducted during exploration where there's least stress to your Video Card. Those figures will dramatically go down as you encounter more enemies on screen...in world vs world PVP, you will encounter 30+ people even more in your screen so that 37 FPS achieved in exploration can plummet down to single digits even at low setting in World vs World PVP where everyone is.

So I think your current Video Card can probably let you explore the world with small skirmishes in low setting (which a let down, the game is so beautiful at high to ultra setting)...but the moment things get heated up with more enemies and more players in your screen...your screen may start to stutter (looks like lag).

I think you need to consider upgrading your Video Card.

Yep! :( sadly I do. OK!
I want to spend the least amount of money as possible, how much will it cost to upgrade my GPU to the point where there will be no lag when LOTS of people are around. Just gimme the lowest amount of money I need to spend to play GW2 really good at good settings.

[zeusabe]

I think you have to invest on NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M or better (or any equivalent).

LOW: 44 FPS
HIGH: 30 FPS
ULTRA: 12 FPS

[Thelastblink]

I think you have to invest on NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M or better (or any equivalent).

LOW: 44 FPS
HIGH: 30 FPS
ULTRA: 12 FPS

Hmm 30 FPS on high. Is that good? Cos apparently 60 FPS is normal.

[zeusabe]

Hmm 30 FPS on high. Is that good? Cos apparently 60 FPS is normal.

That's the lowest you should aim for to at least enjoy exploring the world and open world PvE.

Yes, 60 FPS is normal in desktops especially if you're not in the middle of a huge battle. I can easily achieve 100+ FPS in high setting while in towns and just walking around the map. I'm not even using top components (planning to upgrade again this Christmas). In heavy battles, that number drops down to 30-35 FPS. So that gives you an idea how much heavy battles can affect your FPS.

This means if you're doing 30 FPS or less while doing exploration and world PvE, then your screen will probably stutter a lot when you engage in high battle events or mass PVP in world vs world.

PS: Before I forget, most laptops have their Video Cards attached to their Mother Boards. It's very hard to upgrade laptops piece by piece due to propriety reasons by the manufacturer. People normally buy an entire laptop with an already built-in gaming video card...that will cost you easily $1000....I assembled my desktop for less than $500 and more powerful than a gaming laptop worth $1000 lol. So....I know there are ways to still upgrade laptops but I'm not familiar with that anymore...plus, it's hard to find retail stores that sell laptop parts...sorry I wasn't able to bring this up earlier.

This is non-issue in desktops, parts are everywhere, and assembly is literally like playing Lego :D

[Thelastblink]

That's the lowest you should aim for to at least enjoy exploring the world and open world PvE.

Yes, 60 FPS is normal in desktops especially if you're not in the middle of a huge battle. I can easily achieve 100+ FPS in high setting while in towns and just walking around the map. I'm not even using top components (planning to upgrade again this Christmas). In heavy battles, that number drops down to 30-35 FPS. So that gives you an idea how much heavy battles can affect your FPS.

This means if you're doing 30 FPS or less while doing exploration and world PvE, then your screen will probably stutter a lot when you engage in high battle events or mass PVP in world vs world.

PS: Before I forget, most laptops have their Video Cards attached to their Mother Boards. It's very hard to upgrade laptops piece by piece due to propriety reasons by the manufacturer. People normally buy an entire laptop with an already built-in gaming video card...that will cost you easily $1000....I assembled my desktop for less than $500 and more powerful than a gaming laptop worth $1000 lol. So....I know there are ways to still upgrade laptops but I'm not familiar with that anymore...plus, it's hard to find retail stores that sell laptop parts...sorry I wasn't able to bring this up earlier.

This is non-issue in desktops, parts are everywhere, and assembly is literally like playing Lego :D

Awww! :( but thanks for all the info!
SOOO, In conclusion, if I play GW2 on Intel HD 4000 it is basically impossible to fight in most battles... Aaaand, if I want to play GW2 by upgrading system it would be better off making a whole new computer...
Therefore, I shouldn't buy GW2 because I can't spend $500.
Is this correct?

[zeusabe]

If you run it in the lowest setting, according to that article...it should give you 37 FPS give or take...For me, 25-30 FPS is playable although you will not enjoy full potential of the graphics. You can probably still play through the open world, dungeon, and structured PvP which is probably more than half of what GW2 has to offer. What you cannot enjoy and most likely will become unplayable to you, with that level of FPS, is World vs. World PVP. This World vs. World PVP is basically an all out war between servers (500 v 500 v 500) people more or less, this occurs in a separate realm from PvE content as if it's a totally new game within the game (although your stats and gears from PvE carry over to World vs World).

So in summary, I still think you can play most part of the game maybe around 70-80% (if you're not really particular with graphics not being optimal) except for World vs World. Decisions decisions :D

PS: Yup, it's better to assemble a desktop than to upgrade a laptop, you'll need roughly $500 to build a good gaming desktop versus $1000+ for a gaming laptop. You can still buy GW2, but given those limitations. :D

[Thelastblink]

If you run it in the lowest setting, according to that article...it should give you 37 FPS give or take...For me, 25-30 FPS is playable although you will not enjoy full potential of the graphics. You can probably still play through the open world, dungeon, and structured PvP which is probably more than half of what GW2 has to offer. What you cannot enjoy and most likely will become unplayable to you, with that level of FPS, is World vs. World PVP. This World vs. World PVP is basically an all out war between servers (500 v 500 v 500) people more or less, this occurs in a separate realm from PvE content as if it's a totally new game within the game (although your stats and gears from PvE carry over to World vs World).

So in summary, I still think you can play most part of the game maybe around 70-80% (if you're not really particular with graphics not being optimal) except for World vs World. Decisions decisions :D

PS: Yup, it's better to assemble a desktop than to upgrade a laptop, you'll need roughly $500 to build a good gaming desktop versus $1000+ for a gaming laptop. You can still buy GW2, but given those limitations. :D
Thank you! :D
Do you recommend me buying it? I will probably not play much maybe 2 hours a week? Or maybe 4 hours.
Last question! Will GW2 reduce the life of my laptop?

[zeusabe]

Thank you! :D
Do you recommend me buying it? I will probably not play much maybe 2 hours a week? Or maybe 4 hours.
Last question! Will GW2 reduce the life of my laptop?

I would definitely recommend you to buy it. I think even with those limitations, the game is still very attractive. Nope, it will not reduce your laptop's life any more than your usual wear and tear from any application, unless there's overheating that will damage the hardware, which sounds unlikely considering you're only planning to play very hours :D

[Thelastblink]

I would definitely recommend you to buy it. I think even with those limitations, the game is still very attractive. Nope, it will not reduce your laptop's life any more than your usual wear and tear from any application, unless there's overheating that will damage the hardware, which sounds unlikely considering you're only planning to play very hours :D

WOOOHOO! :D YAY! Thanks for the information EVERYONE!
Also, on the site there was deluxe, collectors etc. editions OO which one do I get?

[zeusabe]

Here's an example of how things can get pretty stressing for your Video Card and CPU in World vs. World PvP. Provided some photos, just randomly took this, no events, not even organized, just some random people congregating at one spot:

We're about 15 players in this screen, very little stress, at this rate...I'm getting around 45 FPS from my computer, smooth:
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I'm with around 20-25 players in this screen, moderate stress, I'm doing 38-40 FPS at this point...still smooth
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Here, there's also around 20-25 players in my screen, but there are several huge mobs at the top of the staircase, they can't be seen because of the angle of my view, I'm doing 35 FPS. Still smooth.
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Here, I'm involved in a skirmish between my server and another server somewhere in the battlefield (there are many like this going on simultaneously). This is easily 50+ players in one screen...some players cannot be seen in this angle because they're being covered by the terrain (kiting range), at this point, my FPS is around 30. Smooth with minor video stuttering.
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If I'm in towns or dungeons with minimal traffic of mobs and players, my FPS is doing 60+.

Based on the benchmark that the article provided, If you're starting FPS will be 37 FPS in towns and dungeons...then that could easily go down very fast in World vs. World, just as how I showed you...BUT, that's only in World vs. World PVP...the rest of the game, you'll most likely maintain an above 30 FPS provided you're in the lowest setting of graphics :D World vs. World PVP is a separate realm, so you can avoid going there if you're having problems with FPS. Stick with PvE, dungeons, and structured PvP and avoid World PvP for now.

PS: I'm on HIGH setting, I can easily increase those FPS if I set it on LOW...I'm not using top of the line components, just average parts. But it's desktop, so it's cheaper :D You can achieve this in your gaming laptop, but you'll have to invest almost twice as I did.

[Thelastblink]

Here's an example of how things can get pretty stressing for your Video Card and CPU in World vs. World PvP. Provided some photos, just randomly took this, no events, not even organized, just some random people congregating at one spot:

We're about 15 players in this screen, very little stress, at this rate...I'm getting around 45 FPS from my computer, smooth:
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I'm with around 20-25 players in this screen, moderate stress, I'm doing 38-40 FPS at this point...still smooth
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Here, there's also around 20-25 players in my screen, but there are several huge mobs at the top of the staircase, they can't be seen because of the angle of my view, I'm doing 35 FPS. Still smooth.
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Here, I'm involved in a skirmish between my server and another server somewhere in the battlefield (there are many like this going on simultaneously). This is easily 50+ players in one screen...some players cannot be seen in this angle because they're being covered by the terrain (kiting range), at this point, my FPS is around 30. Smooth with minor video stuttering.
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If I'm in towns or dungeons with minimal traffic of mobs and players, my FPS is doing 60+.

Based on the benchmark that the article provided, If you're starting FPS will be 37 FPS in towns and dungeons...then that could easily go down very fast in World vs. World, just as how I showed you...BUT, that's only in World vs. World PVP...the rest of the game, you'll most likely maintain an above 30 FPS provided you're in the lowest setting of graphics :D World vs. World PVP is a separate realm, so you can avoid going there if you're having problems with FPS. Stick with PvE, dungeons, and structured PvP and avoid World PvP for now.

PS: I'm on HIGH setting, I can easily increase those FPS if I set it on LOW...I'm not using top of the line components, just average parts. But it's desktop, so it's cheaper :D You can achieve this in your gaming laptop, but you'll have to invest almost twice as I did.
So you mean that I can play all of the game except World vs World smoothly with minor stuttering if I place it on all low settings?

[zeusabe]

So you mean that I can play all of the game except World vs World smoothly with minor stuttering if I place it on all low settings?

Yup, that's a huge possibility. Though I can't say 100% because I'm not sure about the accuracy of the article who conducted the benchmarks on laptop GPU performance in GW2 :D But, if you ask me, it's worth a shot, worse comes to worst...well, you can always save up for an upgrade in the future :D These kind of games last for years (Guildwars 1 is 7 years old and still running)...so it's not going anywhere, it's just roughly 3 months old.

[Thelastblink]

Yup, that's a huge possibility. Though I can't say 100% because I'm not sure about the accuracy of the article who conducted the benchmarks on laptop GPU performance in GW2 :D But, if you ask me, it's worth a shot, worse comes to worst...well, you can always save up for an upgrade in the future :D These kind of games last for years (Guildwars 1 is 7 years old and still running)...so it's not going anywhere, it's just roughly 3 months old.

Is the GPU the only thing that affects FPS? :)

[vampinoy]

Is the GPU the only thing that affects FPS? :)

GPU and CPU. You have a good CPU already...GPU not so :D

[Thelastblink]

Thank you EVERYONE for all the info! :)
You made it possible for me to buy the game! Now very last question. On the site there was a deluxe edition, collectors edition and something else, which one do I buy?

[zeusabe]

Thank you EVERYONE for all the info! :)
You made it possible for me to buy the game! Now very last question. On the site there was a deluxe edition, collectors edition and something else, which one do I buy?

The description of the items you'll get if you purchase deluxe or collector's are there in the website. Just place your mouse clicker over those items. Totally up to you. In my case, I just bought the regular physical CD of the game.

[Thelastblink]

GUYS VEERRY LAST QUESTION! Just double checking...
On the laptop which meets the minimum requirements of GW2 I have only 28GB of Hard Disk Drive Space..
And the minimum requirement is 25GB, will my laptop be fine?

[MightyMicah]

GUYS VEERRY LAST QUESTION! Just double checking...
On the laptop which meets the minimum requirements of GW2 I have only 28GB of Hard Disk Drive Space..
And the minimum requirement is 25GB, will my laptop be fine?

Hmmm, tough question! I'm not sure. I wouldn't be surprised if Vampinoy could answer that through ;)

[Superduper]

I have really been looking to get GW2. The WvW is the main reason. How are the quests? Are they tedious or does it flow?

[asifaiab]

i read this somewhere, sts based pl on guild wars.

[MightyMicah]

I have really been looking to get GW2. The WvW is the main reason. How are the quests? Are they tedious or does it flow?

Haha, it's about as non- tedious as it gets, man! Technically you don't even "have" to do the quests anyways. There's so many different ways to level and play the game. Basically as long as you're playing and running around and stuff, you'll level up.

[MightyMicah]

i read this somewhere, sts based pl on guild wars.

Well, we're referring to Guild Wars 2 which came out just recently. Judging by that gameplay, it's nothing like PL. However, having not played the first Guild Wars, I suppose I can't say for sure.

[Cascade]

You can level up in WvW and you will have the same level if you go to story mode.

[Silentgoddess]

I have it im on the server northern shiverpeaks. My toon names are Livemau, Front Lines, Sub and Like (from the youtube series http://www.youtube.com/user/LetsGW2Play?feature=mhee
yo mm what server are you on? if u arent in a guild you love join northern shiverpeaks and join Notorious its the guild im in we use raidcall to talk

[vampinoy]

GUYS VEERRY LAST QUESTION! Just double checking...
On the laptop which meets the minimum requirements of GW2 I have only 28GB of Hard Disk Drive Space..
And the minimum requirement is 25GB, will my laptop be fine?

25GB is the SAFE ZONE of free space you need to be able to store GW2 Data file and its other components in the GW2 folder, it doesn't necessarily mean that the size of GW2 is 25GB, most of it will just be buffer space for future updates. For instance, my GW2 files only consume around 15GB as of the latest update. Games like to exaggerate on their HDD requirements for their future updates. If you have 28GB, then your laptop will be fine. HOWEVER, Data files of an online game are known to increase slowly as they expand their game's content. You need to monitor your HDD every time your games update/patches.

If you're concerned with your laptop's HDD, there are many remedies out there. You can do the ff:

1. Buy a cheap flashdrive/thumbdrive/USB with 25GB.
2. Install GW2 in your laptop.
3. Copy/Paste GW2 folder to your flashdrive/thumbdrive/USB.
4. Delete the program file of GW2 in your laptop.

This way, you don't have to store the GW2 folder in your laptop, since it's already in your external HDD. Every time you want to play GW2, simply plug the external HDD and click Play. I have many PC games that are installed in separate USB devices that are not in my PC's HDD for...it's a little cheaper than upgrading your internal HDD. I only store important work or personal files in my HDD, the rest are all in external drive. This has benefits. Let's say you're out of town and you forgot to bring you laptop with you, you can simply look for a "safe laptop" (without keyloggers, etc. you can research about it in google) and plug your external HDD and play (provided there's an internet). :D

[Thelastblink]

25GB is the SAFE ZONE of free space you need to be able to store GW2 Data file and its other components in the GW2 folder, it doesn't necessarily mean that the size of GW2 is 25GB, most of it will just be buffer space for future updates. For instance, my GW2 files only consume around 15GB as of the latest update. Games like to exaggerate on their HDD requirements for their future updates. If you have 28GB, then your laptop will be fine. HOWEVER, Data files of an online game are known to increase slowly as they expand their game's content. You need to monitor your HDD every time your games update/patches.

If you're concerned with your laptop's HDD, there are many remedies out there. You can do the ff:

1. Buy a cheap flashdrive/thumbdrive/USB with 25GB.
2. Install GW2 in your laptop.
3. Copy/Paste GW2 folder to your flashdrive/thumbdrive/USB.
4. Delete the program file of GW2 in your laptop.

This way, you don't have to store the GW2 folder in your laptop, since it's already in your external HDD. Every time you want to play GW2, simply plug the external HDD and click Play. I have many PC games that are installed in separate USB devices that are not in my PC's HDD for...it's a little cheaper than upgrading your internal HDD. I only store important work or personal files in my HDD, the rest are all in external drive. This has benefits. Let's say you're out of town and you forgot to bring you laptop with you, you can simply look for a "safe laptop" (without keyloggers, etc. you can research about it in google) and plug your external HDD and play (provided there's an internet). :D

Wow... quite the wise one you are! :D

[vampinoy]

This is a pretty awesome review of Guildwars 2, check it out, some of your questions might have been addressed here too :D If this review doesn't convince you to get the game...then, I don't think anything can :D



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax-_06Acj8Y