Is it honest?

[Bonifate]

I can farm about 4k pts per hour, but he just sits at an exorbitant level that an ordinary player cannot catch up with.. How can you even compete for the top 5 if a person can just spend money and break away from you to an unattainable level?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20241018/3880b03a3ea9db46e94d935940df75c9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20241018/4f79fc57eb766e9d6def5566ba1f270d.jpg

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[caabarader]

I don't play lb but locked giving event pts is such a pay to win system... Even worse when it comes to top 5 based lb's.

[Yuggernaut]

by the way, there are another thing that add points than opening crates? or just crate hive extra points?

[caabarader]

by the way, there are another thing that add points than opening crates? or just crate hive extra points?

As I know of, only crates add extra event points.

[stanil10]

Does opening the crazy amount of 8k & 14k platinum packs add to the event points too? Or only locked crates?

[Aayushh007]

Every event this topic comes up, and gets ignored hard, at this point making any post regarding it will be waste,
But yeah if you willing to spend $ you will always have advantage.

[Kakashis]

Not a new topic, but there's nothing dishonest about it. There's never been a chance for the completely f2p players to win top 5 or top 10 lb. You will lose to those who will just reload on kits with almost no farming downtime. I suppose if you were extremely wealthy in the game with tons of gold, you then could just buy kits and keys to win your way up just like the guy at the top as well. Mind you, the rewards rarely pay off what you spent to become top 10. Most winners end up selling their rewards for less than what they spent to win them just so they have some gold flow for next event.

On that note, I think it's really good that you can win points by spending platinum to be #1. You may be playing 24/7, but someone else may not have the same time as you due to work IRL. In return they just spend their hard earned cash in lieu of time and its great that they get the most competitive edge. Between you vs the guy spending the cash, guess who's actually keeping the servers online and the game alive and free? Let them win, you can still strive for top 25! If you're also spending cash too, it just means you're not out spending the #1 guy.

[Sunaxe]

Oh man.. Top-up players are nagged everywhere I go. What is the problem? XD Developers need funds to make the game better. They need real money too. They get it from in-app purchases.

Oh.. Im talking too much. Sorry.

[Delouis Ball]

I can farm about 2k pts per hour, but he just sits at an exorbitant level that an ordinary player cannot catch up with.. How can you even compete for the top 5 if a person can just spend money and break away from you to an unattainable level?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20241018/3880b03a3ea9db46e94d935940df75c9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20241018/4f79fc57eb766e9d6def5566ba1f270d.jpg

Отправлено с моего AGS2-W09 через TapatalkIt took me 30 minutes for 4k points. As long as you have energy, you can farm many points fairly quickly.

You don't "need" plat for t5. You need time, speed, and gold. Time is the biggest aspect for many players.

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[dmqp]

Some of them have opened new lockeds in high quantities and sooner or later they'll drop from lb. This has happened before in LB event.

[Oakmaiden]

Oh man.. Top-up players are nagged everywhere I go. What is the problem? XD Developers need funds to make the game better. They need real money too. They get it from in-app purchases.

Oh.. Im talking too much. Sorry.
Do you want other people to play with, or do you think there are enough whales in the game? I wonder what the ratio of free to play and moderate spenders vs whales is. Where would the one percent be without the hive?

[Ooozer]

I can farm about 2k pts per hour, but he just sits at an exorbitant level that an ordinary player cannot catch up with.. How can you even compete for the top 5 if a person can just spend money and break away from you to an unattainable level?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20241018/3880b03a3ea9db46e94d935940df75c9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20241018/4f79fc57eb766e9d6def5566ba1f270d.jpg

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Eazy explanation, those top 5 accounts are funded by cinco, so they spend as much plats they want to make others try compete them. But from what i see this year, no one chasing them, and lb kinda death. Plus many lb vanities worth now nothing, so is kinda useless to run for an aura that will cost 50-60m in future.

[Darklotusss]

Eazy explanation, those top 5 accounts are funded by cinco, so they spend as much plats they want to make others try compete them. But from what i see this year, no one chasing them, and lb kinda death. Plus many lb vanities worth now nothing, so is kinda useless to run for an aura that will cost 50-60m in future.

ayoooooo wheres my gold at cinco??? :vlol::vlol:

[Ooozer]

ayoooooo wheres my gold at cinco??? :vlol::vlol:

Look rog class that leaderboard i can say is not cinco funded leaderboard. Mage and war is definitely. And we will see next weeks if it keeps like this.

[Ketx]

Lb system is rng asf. No matter how hard you try to climb up to top 5, there will be people who didnt grind as much as you and got more pts than you.

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[Delouis Ball]

Lb system is rng asf. No matter how hard you try to climb up to top 5, there will be people who didnt grind as much as you and got more pts than you.

Sent from my SM-A536W using TapatalkLol what?

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[Ketx]

Lol what?

Sent from my SM-G781U using TapatalkThe pts you get is randomized. A person will get higher pts than others even if they started farming the event at the same time.

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[Delouis Ball]

The pts you get is randomized. A person will get higher pts than others even if they started farming the event at the same time.

Sent from my SM-A536W using TapatalkDo you know how it works? I don't think you do...

More runs = more points. The players who run the most have the most points.

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[Ketx]

Do you know how it works? I don't think you do...

More runs = more points. The players who run the most have the most points.

Cheers - Interrupting272017

Sent from my SM-G781U using TapatalkIf the players have more points by farming the events more meaning each players getting same points per run, then there should have bunch of overlaps in lb already. Thats why there is randomized points. It has been for years we had this system

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[Delouis Ball]

If the players have more points by farming the events more, then there should have bunch of overlaps in lb already. Thats why there is randomized points. It has been for years we had this system

Sent from my SM-A536W using TapatalkIn no way is the LB "RNG" based though. Like seriously? Cmon dude, use your head.

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[Ketx]

In no way is the LB "RNG" based though. Like seriously? Cmon dude, use your head.

Sent from my SM-G781U using Tapatalkok dud, RNG means randomized number generated meaning the number of pts you get is randomized. If the pts you get is same as the person who above you who is at top 5, there will be overlap for two of you and both of you will get same rewards. Everyone who running lb events 24/7 would have top 1 rewards already. Test to see the series of pts numbers you get per run and you will see the difference. The system has implented for years and I have complained about this couple years ago

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[Ooozer]

In no way is the LB "RNG" based though. Like seriously? Cmon dude, use your head.

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Don t try hide this thing that top 5 are funded by Cinco. When event start in just one hour they already had 30-40k. How fast and how rich they could be to do it? Plus they never loose gold, all time they had gold for best awakes, new gears locks etc. Even they farm, as you would say, they won t have enough. A normal player is the one that can t afford new stuff and don t make 30-40k an hour.

[Ooozer]

ok dud, RNG means randomized number generated meaning the number of pts you get is randomized. If the pts you get is same as the person who above you who is at top 5, there will be overlap for two of you and both of you will get same rewards. Everyone who running lb events 24/7 would have top 1 rewards already. Test to see the series of pts numbers you get per run and you will see the difference. The system has implented for years and I have complained about this couple years ago

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Event there is such thing in game, the difference between top 5 and others are insane. The top 5 has double of points, plus i don t thing RNG would affect the points you get so much since other players can get it too So definitely Cinco fund this accounts.

[Delouis Ball]

You guys are actually beyond the realm of the living.

Do you wan't me to tell you guys a secret?

It is called $$. They spent $$ on locks which give 30-40 points/open. 100 opens? 4k points.

1 hour? 1k opens? Easily 40k points.

1k opens? How much is that? 15k plat.

15k plat? That's $500. That's 1 OT day for most people.

I farm 4k points/1 hour aslong as I have energy.

I could just go work a 12h shift, and boom, 40k points.

Or I could sit on game and farm 40k points worth 10h of gameplay.

In reality? It is doable. Most event LB runners play for 20h/day for first 4 days to "secure" their top 5/10 spot.

If you don't understand how the LB works, do not make comments on it.

Gear+gold = more gold

Better gear = faster runs = more gold farmed/hour or More runs/hour.

Like the dude said above, he can only farm 2k/hour, while I do 4k/hour Solo. Imagine if I ran in a group.

Are the points "RNG" to a very limited limit. Each boss provides a certain amount of points / kill. These points can range for example Boogie - 15-30 points / kill.

Let me ask, who will have more points? The one who complains on forums and kills boss 100 times? Or the one actually running and farming killing the boss 1k times?

100 x 23 = 2.3k

1k x 23 = 23k.

23? That should be about the average between the two "rng" numbers.

It is a basis of who invests either more $$ or time or both into the game.

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[Ooozer]

You guys are actually beyond the realm of the living.

Do you wan't me to tell you guys a secret?

It is called $$. They spent $$ on locks which give 30-40 points/open. 100 opens? 4k points.

1 hour? 1k opens? Easily 40k points.

1k opens? How much is that? 15k plat.

15k plat? That's $500. That's 1 OT day for most people.

I farm 4k points/1 hour aslong as I have energy.

I could just go work a 12h shift, and boom, 40k points.

Or I could sit on game and farm 40k points worth 10h of gameplay.

In reality? It is doable. Most event LB runners play for 20h/day for first 4 days to "secure" their top 5/10 spot.

If you don't understand how the LB works, do not make comments on it.

Gear+gold = more gold

Better gear = faster runs = more gold farmed/hour or More runs/hour.

Like the dude said above, he can only farm 2k/hour, while I do 4k/hour Solo. Imagine if I ran in a group.

Are the points "RNG" to a very limited limit. Each boss provides a certain amount of points / kill. These points can range for example Boogie - 15-30 points / kill.

Let me ask, who will have more points? The one who complains on forums and kills boss 100 times? Or the one actually running and farming killing the boss 1k times?

100 x 23 = 2.3k

1k x 23 = 23k.

23? That should be about the average between the two "rng" numbers.

It is a basis of who invests either more $$ or time or both into the game.

Cheers - Interrupting

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You are out of this world. Who would pay $$ for stupid lb? And that aura is not more than few millions of gold. I better would give to a lb runner 500$ than open useless crates. Also if someone would buy plats, definitely i won t invest them in open crates or leaderboards, because i would loose.
With 15k plats i would buy crates key. 500 crates key x 6-7 mil gold--)) 3.5b gold. So i would make an insane profit than leaderboard rewards.
I really don t see what someone can profit, when they spend more for energy kits/ craftable materials/waste of time.
Let s take 150k points% 75 points(per run)---)) 2k runs x 500k gold(energy cost)---)) 1b gold cost only for energy plus around 60m gold for bags.
So now tell me, where is the profit?
Better they would run hedo or other map do 2k runsX 100-150k gold per run( at least) ---) 200-300m + the energy they didn t use( 1b) --) They will have 1.3b at least.
So now lb rewards 130m corrupted+ badge 100+ halo/banner 40+ aura 500- 600m+ elite awakes 20m -----)))900-1b gold so they barely got what they invest, and they waste time.

[Ketx]

Event there is such thing in game, the difference between top 5 and others are insane. The top 5 has double of points, plus i don t thing RNG would affect the points you get so much since other players can get it too So definitely Cinco fund this accounts.Im basing it off if all players gain pts without anything that will boost their pts and what happens if they do. It is significantly affect your pts because the gap between each of those pts in lb will never get close or overlap one and another if they dont have anything that will boost their pts. There always will people who never get high pts per run and rather get low pts which cause they need to spent more plats than other in order to climb up to top 5. Thats why the ones who gets the max pts per run and spent on plats are in the top 5.

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[Ooozer]

Im basing it off if all players gain pts without anything that will boost their pts and what happens if they do. It is significantly affect your pts because the gap between each of those pts in lb will never get close or overlap one and another if they dont have anything that will boost their pts. There always will people who never get high pts per run and rather get low pts which cause they need to spent more plats than other in order to climb up to top 5. Thats why the ones who gets the max pts per run and spent on plats are in the top 5.

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It can t be like this. Let s take i do a run i get max points of 100, next run i will get/or not i will get 100 points. This apply for all accounts. They just get funded and they spent as much they want to not let others claim unreachable leaderboards. This others beeing normal players, that need to spend real money or loose large amounts of gold. After that if many normal players got this lb rewards the price of this rewards will drop suddenly l, because the funded accounts( that are many in game) won t want them causing normal players loose even more gold.

[Ketx]

It can t be like this. Let s take i do a run i get max points of 100, next run i will get/or not i will get 100 points. This apply for all accounts. They just get funded and they spent as much they want to not let others claim unreachable leaderboards. This others beeing normal players, that need to spend real money or loose large amounts of gold. After that if many normal players got this lb rewards the price of this rewards will drop suddenly l, because the funded accounts( that are many in game) won t want them causing normal players loose even more gold.Individual can spend on plat as much as they can to get the reward to prevent the lb items value loss without overlap in top 1 is possible if the number of pts you getting is the same as other but this will eventually lead to overlap in overall top 5 due to there are certain limit on the players how much they spent on plats and the competition. The point is the series of the pts numbers that has implented in lb system will make difference of the pts in lb and the amount of plats individual need to spent is rng based

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[Ooozer]

Individual can spend on plat as much as they can to get the reward to prevent the lb items value loss without overlap in top 1 is possible if the number of pts you getting is the same as other but this will eventually lead to overlap in overall top 5 due to there are certain limit on the players how much they spent on plats and the competition. The point is the series of the pts numbers that has implented in lb system will make difference of the pts in lb and the amount of plats individual need to spent is rng based

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Only you understand what you are saying, for real. Since one player get low/highest points, than others will get too lowest/highest points per run. So based on what i m saying real leaderboards would be more competitive and many would have nearly same amount of points But like this leaderboard, funded, top 5 leaderboarders would have double amounts of points

[Ooozer]

Individual can spend on plat as much as they can to get the reward to prevent the lb items value loss without overlap in top 1 is possible if the number of pts you getting is the same as other but this will eventually lead to overlap in overall top 5 due to there are certain limit on the players how much they spent on plats and the competition. The point is the series of the pts numbers that has implented in lb system will make difference of the pts in lb and the amount of plats individual need to spent is rng based

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Also can you tell me from where these top 5 has so many energy kits? Since goblin or other event their rate was inexistend.

[Darklotusss]

In no way is the LB "RNG" based though. Like seriously? Cmon dude, use your head.

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Don't waste your time here they have no clue what it takes for LB and clearly rather make up assumptions and complain then learn


I don't spend on locks or plat

Bought all my 3k+ kits in a duration of 6months prior to Halloween

[Bonifate]

You guys are actually beyond the realm of the living.

Do you wan't me to tell you guys a secret?

It is called $$. They spent $$ on locks which give 30-40 points/open. 100 opens? 4k points.

1 hour? 1k opens? Easily 40k points.

1k opens? How much is that? 15k plat.

15k plat? That's $500. That's 1 OT day for most people.

I farm 4k points/1 hour aslong as I have energy.

I could just go work a 12h shift, and boom, 40k points.

Or I could sit on game and farm 40k points worth 10h of gameplay.

In reality? It is doable. Most event LB runners play for 20h/day for first 4 days to "secure" their top 5/10 spot.

If you don't understand how the LB works, do not make comments on it.

Gear+gold = more gold

Better gear = faster runs = more gold farmed/hour or More runs/hour.

Like the dude said above, he can only farm 2k/hour, while I do 4k/hour Solo. Imagine if I ran in a group.

Are the points "RNG" to a very limited limit. Each boss provides a certain amount of points / kill. These points can range for example Boogie - 15-30 points / kill.

Let me ask, who will have more points? The one who complains on forums and kills boss 100 times? Or the one actually running and farming killing the boss 1k times?

100 x 23 = 2.3k

1k x 23 = 23k.

23? That should be about the average between the two "rng" numbers.

It is a basis of who invests either more $$ or time or both into the game.

Cheers - Interrupting

Sent from my SM-G781U using TapatalkMan i sleep 3 hrs for 3 days, almost non stop farm energy and burn it, done over 1300 runs, why u told that i dnt know what im talking about?
I write this post and said 2k per hr, bcs that start with low pts bosses b4 u reach plat tier
Also, that isnt smart to try calculate same pts per hr for rog, war and mage, just bcs rogues cant run that fast
My only misstake that i dnt found pt to run event, so I go solo slowly and without party benefits, like double portal for 1 energy

May moderator close the topic? In any case that ignored

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[Delouis Ball]

Man i sleep 3 hrs for 3 days, almost non stop farm energy and burn it, done over 1300 runs, why u told that i dnt know what im talking about?
I write this post and said 2k per hr, bcs that start with low pts bosses b4 u reach plat tier
Also, that isnt smart to try calculate same pts per hr for rog, war and mage, just bcs rogues cant run that fast
My only misstake that i dnt found pt to run event, so I go solo slowly and without party benefits, like double portal for 1 energy

May moderator close the topic? In any case that ignored

Отправлено с моего AGS2-W09 через TapatalkThat comment wasn't targetted towards you, it was targetted towards the two people om your post, who say LB is "RNG" based, and Funded accounts by Cinco.

Also, there are rogues who clear it just as fast if not faster than me.

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[Ooozer]

That comment wasn't targetted towards you, it was targetted towards the two people om your post, who say LB is "RNG" based, and Funded accounts by Cinco.

Also, there are rogues who clear it just as fast if not faster than me.

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Everywhere the team has an advanced, no matter is gold farm/ events/ etc etc. Instead of making hard for team, they just keep support them. I want see if you run as a team points to divide to 4, if you do hedo in a team gold divide by 4,. If you run with a team boss gets extra hp, mobs attack increase making them dying every 1-2 seconds. Not that a team run they could do 2 portals in halloween, not if they run in a team they can bp hedo, and many other and if crates are opened to give them points.

[Delouis Ball]

Everywhere the team has an advanced, no matter is gold farm/ events/ etc etc. Instead of making hard for team, they just keep support them. I want see if you run as a team points to divide to 4, if you do hedo in a team gold divide by 4,. If you run with a team boss gets extra hp, mobs attack increase making them dying every 1-2 seconds. Not that a team run they could do 2 portals in halloween, not if they run in a team they can bp hedo, and many other and if crates are opened to give them points.If games did that, what is the point of being in a party? Now there is no point. Having a team or party is supposed to make things easier and faster.

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[Sampep]

Event there is such thing in game, the difference between top 5 and others are insane. The top 5 has double of points, plus i don t thing RNG would affect the points you get so much since other players can get it too So definitely Cinco fund this accounts.

U stupid for thinking cinco fund accounts u play too much AL


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[Ooozer]

U stupid for thinking cinco fund accounts u play too much AL


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Why he won t do it? Top players have end game gears, they don t loose when they awake, run events on crates opening. Just look trade market already for the new arcane armor some players, not many, got the end game awakes. Like hm would they spend on them? One arcane gems is 1m

[Sampep]

Why he won t do it? Top players have end game gears, they don t loose when they awake, run events on crates opening. Just look trade market already for the new arcane armor some players, not many, got the end game awakes. Like hm would they spend on them? One arcane gems is 1m

They spend gold or real money to awake the difference between those top players n u is that u poor and they r rich go @Cinco and ask him if he fund top player he gonn think u dumb


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[Americanarmy]

Does opening the crazy amount of 8k & 14k platinum packs add to the event points too? Or only locked crates?

That be unfathomable


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[Americanarmy]

If the players have more points by farming the events more meaning each players getting same points per run, then there should have bunch of overlaps in lb already. Thats why there is randomized points. It has been for years we had this system

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True


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[Americanarmy]

You guys are actually beyond the realm of the living.

Do you wan't me to tell you guys a secret?

It is called $$. They spent $$ on locks which give 30-40 points/open. 100 opens? 4k points.

1 hour? 1k opens? Easily 40k points.

1k opens? How much is that? 15k plat.

15k plat? That's $500. That's 1 OT day for most people.

I farm 4k points/1 hour aslong as I have energy.

I could just go work a 12h shift, and boom, 40k points.

Or I could sit on game and farm 40k points worth 10h of gameplay.

In reality? It is doable. Most event LB runners play for 20h/day for first 4 days to "secure" their top 5/10 spot.

If you don't understand how the LB works, do not make comments on it.

Gear+gold = more gold

Better gear = faster runs = more gold farmed/hour or More runs/hour.

Like the dude said above, he can only farm 2k/hour, while I do 4k/hour Solo. Imagine if I ran in a group.

Are the points "RNG" to a very limited limit. Each boss provides a certain amount of points / kill. These points can range for example Boogie - 15-30 points / kill.

Let me ask, who will have more points? The one who complains on forums and kills boss 100 times? Or the one actually running and farming killing the boss 1k times?

100 x 23 = 2.3k

1k x 23 = 23k.

23? That should be about the average between the two "rng" numbers.

It is a basis of who invests either more $$ or time or both into the game.

Cheers - Interrupting

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1 day of work for me 132$ usd


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[Vrazicak]

I think LB being p2w is perfectly fine, at the end of the day, the only reason you can play AL for countless hours every day are the people spending money and financing this game.

[Ooozer]

I think LB being p2w is perfectly fine, at the end of the day, the only reason you can play AL for countless hours every day are the people spending money and financing this game.

"I think lb p2w is fine" bro you don t get any profit if it s pay to win. Better buy crate keys, slots energy kits etc and sell them in auction, than spending on points. Every lb has players funded by cinco. Let s take goblin event. This is the only event that gives you energy. A guy said he got his energy kits over 6 months. From where? Hello! Energy kits from goblin was so bad rate, that i don t think 200-300 was from entire event. Because was based same for p2w crates points.