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jeabahty
11-02-2024, 05:57 AM
basically the title.

im looking at exploring answers to this question from a couple of perspectives:

1. who banishes better in terms of odds?
-> i know h.ghostly's passive explicitly mentions a 10% banish chance, but nothing of this sort is given for h.fatima's passive. has anybody explored this? does fatima have a higher or lower chance compared to ghostly?

2. who banishes better in terms of spread and utility?
-> h.ghostly's passive also explicitly mentions it "attacks upto 4 targets and has a 10% chance to banish them". does this mean that there's an individual 10% chance to banish each of the 4 targets attacked, or is this a cumulative 10% spread across all 4 targets and eventually only one of them is banished?
-> h.fatima's passive simply states "attacks multiple targets. chance of hit to banish enemy" -- does this translate to the same premise as above or is it a hard one-target-banished-at-all-times condition?

im also open to getting some dev thoughts on this if possible, aside from the AL community at large.

thanks in advance for your inputs.

caabarader
11-02-2024, 09:01 AM
Best passive to banish is h.eggsorcist

jeabahty
11-02-2024, 03:18 PM
Those 2 are my options for now, thus the question

Yuggernaut
11-02-2024, 05:10 PM
is for some lb run?

trueido
11-04-2024, 05:22 PM
Best passive to banish is h.eggsorcist

Actually no, because Heroic Eggso enemies needs to be right on top of each other to get attacked while heroic ghostly can hit many targets that are far from each other

I tested both of them for an hour and by far heroic ghostly made more banished enemies than eggso, both max level

Sue.
11-04-2024, 06:36 PM
don’t forget you can also slot arcanite samson AA moar banish X .X

Maxzero
11-06-2024, 02:37 PM
If you are looking for a pet just for the banish passive you can use legendary ghostly too.. there's no difference in passive of that and the heroic version.. and it can banish multiple targets upto 4 in a single attack. For more banish team it up with skeletops aa.

jeabahty
11-30-2024, 04:07 PM
is for some lb run?

nah, for normal runs.

jeabahty
11-30-2024, 04:11 PM
Actually no, because Heroic Eggso enemies needs to be right on top of each other to get attacked while heroic ghostly can hit many targets that are far from each other

I tested both of them for an hour and by far heroic ghostly made more banished enemies than eggso, both max level

cheers for sharing the observation. do you maybe have any more details on conditions in which you tested this theory? like your build, skills, maps, average mob pulls, pet aa used before/during banishes, etc?

jeabahty
11-30-2024, 04:21 PM
don’t forget you can also slot arcanite samson AA moar banish X .X

yeah! Maxzero also suggested skeletops' aa for the max banish setup. but tbh, it just kinda sounds good in theory. in reality we dont actually know the banish odds of those AAs. the descriptions also just say "lesser enemies". what constitutes a lesser enemy - an enemy with a lesser level than the average map/an enemy with low health (how low is low enough?) ?

so much of the stuff in the game is vague and ambiguous that its quite hard to really go off of whats just written, only to later find out it really doesnt work that way haha.