Why there are not buyers anymore in this game?

[Ooozer]

What just happen? Why everyone sell things, leaderboard things rare items and practically there are no buyers. In this event we got hidden loot, that some of old players could use it to manipulate their prices, but because some looted them and made it public their drops practically increase, so now noone wants them. I remember siafara daggers has been manipulated like this. Do Cinco increase the drop on purpose of Yuliana Vanities when they appear on public?
Also i see in towns leaderboard runners have problems for selling their leaderboard rewards once they pass the event. Basically after an event ends, if you get top rewards you have 1-2 days to fast sell them, if you can, or you will have forever in your inbox or the buyer will have in the inbox.
So there are no more trades in Arcane Legends as it was before, and people don t get manipulate too easy like they got before once the bound leaderboard ended.
Also new blood set. The artifact is way overpriced and the helm and armor are way too common, since a person has 3-4 pieces of it and try sell in auction. So for this reason people don t prefer spend on fhis because for some crates are really trade friendly, and for others are just a waste.

[fikrialithaufik24]

And the trader market forum also, it takes soooooooo long to find a buyer or seller. AL Community is dying

[caabarader]

The things you said about hidden loot makes no sense to me, the vanity weapons are still rare, we still can't see many for sales, also it may not supposed to be as rare as you wanted it to be..

As a person who has a close relationship with the market of this game, I can say that the lack of buyers is caused by the seller himself. Everyday I see sellers with no auto price, which is something that has even stopped me from buying... Sometimes it seems to me that the seller doesn't want to sell, just take offers. It's ok to take offers, but sellers are doing that for items that has a stable price in the market, or take ages to decide an auto. The phrase "taking offers" makes me give up buying.

Lb vanitys aren't selling not due lack of buyers, there are alot of people who would like to have them. What happens is that there are sellers who think that these sets are as important as a medusa/ghost/frank set (that's what their auto looks like). The constant delivery of tradeable leaderboards sets diminishes the importance of the word "leaderboards" which directly affects its value. Another factor is also the manipulation of fake c.o(which is constantly seen on the trade forum).

Blood artifact is way too good when compared to kraken artifact, we can't say the same about armor and helm pieces, which together give the power of a kraken armor alone. Also the artifact came in events that lockeds aren't good/worthy to open, winter is coming and there the artifact might drop by a good amount.

[Ooozer]

The things you said about hidden loot makes no sense to me, the vanity weapons are still rare, we still can't see many for sales, also it may not supposed to be as rare as you wanted it to be..

As a person who has a close relationship with the market of this game, I can say that the lack of buyers is caused by the seller himself. Everyday I see sellers with no auto price, which is something that has even stopped me from buying... Sometimes it seems to me that the seller doesn't want to sell, just take offers. It's ok to take offers, but sellers are doing that for items that has a stable price in the market, or take ages to decide an auto. The phrase "taking offers" makes me give up buying.

Lb vanitys aren't selling not due lack of buyers, there are alot of people who would like to have them. What happens is that there are sellers who think that these sets are as important as a medusa/ghost/frank set (that's what their auto looks like). The constant delivery of tradeable leaderboards sets diminishes the importance of the word "leaderboards" which directly affects its value. Another factor is also the manipulation of fake c.o(which is constantly seen on the trade forum).

Blood artifact is way too good when compared to kraken artifact, we can't say the same about armor and helm pieces, which together give the power of a kraken armor alone. Also the artifact came in events that lockeds aren't good/worthy to open, winter is coming and there the artifact might drop by a good amount.

This apply to the new vanity also, same problem people think worth a lot but noone buy it, make any offer for it, so basically is just another useless vanity like many others.. Also i see many try manipulate maliscious set but that set is the most useless set in game. Like it won t make you have more speed. I believe Cinco need fix the market, buy buying some stuff and set some prices behinde the eyes of people.

[Switchback]

If I had to guess it's due to low player activity and Christmas is around the corner.

[Irg]

The purpose of saying offer is hoping the buyer would go higher
than what you planned to sell it.
The purpose of asking for price is hoping the seller would sell
lower than your budget

This guessing mindgame is honestly just super annoying
and makes trading a nightmare.
Its like the word "offer" replaced common greeting words between sales,
Which is straight up tragic, and it only happens in AL community.
Just makes the conversation unfriendly in general

[capeo]

Well, I will use those terms when I have no idea what an item is worth. I won't set an auto until I have some type of feed back on what I'm attempting to buy/sell. Not that I'm trying to get more or less, I'm just clueless. Sometimes you can make an educated guess but thats all it is. A guess. Unless you are buying/selling whatever the new thing is it can be hard to set a price. for example, I have dozens of older vanity sets from events that span close to 10 years. Can't find a price in cs and no one puts prices on the forum anymore. I know they aren't worth a ton but what are they worth? For those of you that actually follow these things you might know but I have no idea. So yes, I'll ask for offers and if it sounds good I'll sell. If not I keep looking.

I agree overall it's hard to buy/sell now. All anyone wants is the new things and not everyone can buy them. Inflation is out of control, for gold and plat. Need to spend over 100$ every week on the game these days...that isn't sustainable. Winter will have something new everyone wants and will be a ridiculously hard drop. 1b gold or hundreds in plat. Again and again and again. It's getting old.

[caabarader]

Myself take offers on items that I have no idea or aren't common in the market and that's ok! But people are doing that with everything, even with cheap items...

Searching prices in forum became harder, no one has auto, no one posts how much the item sold and so on..

It's good to see this topic being discussed because it's something I have noticed nowadays, and probably something that lasts, but STS can't do anything about that, this would be an economic intervention that they themselves tend to avoid, So it's up to us as a community to improve the marketing the way we can.

[Ooozer]

Well, I will use those terms when I have no idea what an item is worth. I won't set an auto until I have some type of feed back on what I'm attempting to buy/sell. Not that I'm trying to get more or less, I'm just clueless. Sometimes you can make an educated guess but thats all it is. A guess. Unless you are buying/selling whatever the new thing is it can be hard to set a price. for example, I have dozens of older vanity sets from events that span close to 10 years. Can't find a price in cs and no one puts prices on the forum anymore. I know they aren't worth a ton but what are they worth? For those of you that actually follow these things you might know but I have no idea. So yes, I'll ask for offers and if it sounds good I'll sell. If not I keep looking.

I agree overall it's hard to buy/sell now. All anyone wants is the new things and not everyone can buy them. Inflation is out of control, for gold and plat. Need to spend over 100$ every week on the game these days...that isn't sustainable. Winter will have something new everyone wants and will be a ridiculously hard drop. 1b gold or hundreds in plat. Again and again and again. It's getting old.

Even if you need to use 100$ a week for the new staff, next week that thing you just buyed drop in value, or even worst loose his value so leading into no buyers for it. Let s take new gear, let s say you invest 100$ you get 1-2 piece of blood item, so you want sell it, but other people open crates also so don t wanna buy, you end up with blood items in your inventory. Mid range players don t afford buy them, end game players don t buy them just because they use keys and get more blood items so this item becomes without value, setting at a lower price than the sellers think there should be. Also leaderboard rewards if there are vanity people just don t want them, because the range price is around 1b so they are useless.
If we take the time you spend to get those lb rewards, and the drop of value of those better, i would just close the game.

[Sunaxe]

The things you said about hidden loot makes no sense to me, the vanity weapons are still rare, we still can't see many for sales, also it may not supposed to be as rare as you wanted it to be..

As a person who has a close relationship with the market of this game, I can say that the lack of buyers is caused by the seller himself. Everyday I see sellers with no auto price, which is something that has even stopped me from buying... Sometimes it seems to me that the seller doesn't want to sell, just take offers. It's ok to take offers, but sellers are doing that for items that has a stable price in the market, or take ages to decide an auto. The phrase "taking offers" makes me give up buying.

Lb vanitys aren't selling not due lack of buyers, there are alot of people who would like to have them. What happens is that there are sellers who think that these sets are as important as a medusa/ghost/frank set (that's what their auto looks like). The constant delivery of tradeable leaderboards sets diminishes the importance of the word "leaderboards" which directly affects its value. Another factor is also the manipulation of fake c.o(which is constantly seen on the trade forum).

Blood artifact is way too good when compared to kraken artifact, we can't say the same about armor and helm pieces, which together give the power of a kraken armor alone. Also the artifact came in events that lockeds aren't good/worthy to open, winter is coming and there the artifact might drop by a good amount.

“there are sellers who think that these sets are as important as a medusa/ghost/frank set”

Lets emphasize this one..

[Kuyil]

To be honest ...

Everything i sold so far even last days was sold fast with reasonable price ...
Including sacred sentinel set R ... I just dont answer on "whats your auto" like many which endes 1.5b c/o 1b like on forum and meantime set stands in auction for 800m ....
Be real and set auto no manipulation things or setting c/o of your own twink so people ask for it .....

Everything gets sold when you are real in head and positive ..

I even made good friends with some of very good players and sellers also socalled "manipulators"
With guys writing me "i like you,direct if u want something u buy it and when u sell u sell with auto and time no changing price"


Simple as that

This game can teach you some real life things !!!!

And money isnt worth a s*** !!!!!

[Lazzer]

Over pricing things and then expecting it to get sold is not the best strat. Plat spenders usually have enough in game gold to buy all the things they would like to. The market revolves around the f2p players grinding to get stuff. Overpricing just kills the mood to buy any item considered OP or nice.

[capeo]

I can't imagine how new ftp players raise the gold they need. Hundreds of millions qith new stuff all the time. By the time you farm enough gold the gear is outdated.

[Yuggernaut]

1- Yuliana Vanities are ugly, they don't even have vfx, for that reason are cheap (when sts release vanities like blood weapons, it would be diferent)
2- Please write better, your sentence has no commas or full stops
3- I have sold this month of November, and so far in December, 70% of the things, incluiding lb

[XOLEA]

1) Yuliana vanities are ugly. They don’t even have VFX and for that reason they’re cheap. (When STS releases vanities like Blood weapons, it will be different.)

2) Please, write better. Your sentences have neither commas nor full stops.

3) I have sold 70% of the things in November and December so far.

There you go mate.
Keep in mind that, in order to criticise someone’s grammar, yours is supposed to be perfect in the first place.

[caabarader]

I can't imagine how new ftp players raise the gold they need. Hundreds of millions qith new stuff all the time. By the time you farm enough gold the gear is outdated.

I ask myself how do new players do that aswell... If I had to re-start the game with nothing, the same way the game is right now, I would rather not even start.

[Kostral]

I ask myself how do new players do that aswell... If I had to re-start the game with nothing, the same way the game is right now, I would rather not even start.

i agree with you, i imagining starting from zero and the struggle would be insane without buying plats.

bad part is anything 'new starter' related benefit features will be insanely abused.

[Sunaxe]

I ask myself how do new players do that aswell... If I had to re-start the game with nothing, the same way the game is right now, I would rather not even start.

Maybe it’s something STS needs to ponder. I started July this year, and had to spend around 80k+ platinums. I had to rely on real money to actually start and flipping gold through milking elixirs in auction or merching. Not every player is willing to do this.

The bosses up there needs to think of better ways to bring in new players which isn’t heavily reliant on platinum and gold.

This game became a vicious vice for me..

Vanities are so pretty by the way! Keep it up team.

[Irg]

Good gear should be cheap, excellent gear should be expensive
Maps should be doable with good gear, and faster with best gear.

There should be more ways to earn gold that goldloot, as maps are basically
trash without gl and a gl set is extra cost that aren't cheap.
So you often see players that afk, or as good as if they are afk in indigo.
Because to they save up for gl gear by leeching others, but they have no choice

Lack of buyers ultimately is a result of not having enough players
The ridiculous cost to have decent gear basically yalls
"Pay or gtfo" right in the face of a new player. Some would pay, but most will not

[ItsTheCat]

The purpose of saying offer is hoping the buyer would go higher
than what you planned to sell it.
The purpose of asking for price is hoping the seller would sell
lower than your budget

This guessing mindgame is honestly just super annoying
and makes trading a nightmare.
Its like the word "offer" replaced common greeting words between sales,
Which is straight up tragic, and it only happens in AL community.
Just makes the conversation unfriendly in general


Dam 🦫 bro nailed 💅 it

[Americanarmy]

I can't imagine how new ftp players raise the gold they need. Hundreds of millions qith new stuff all the time. By the time you farm enough gold the gear is outdated.

My question too i used to be free to play and it was impossible to get any good gear due to inflation until i got a job i became a whale and buy what ever i need


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[Americanarmy]

1) Yuliana vanities are ugly. They don’t even have VFX and for that reason they’re cheap. (When STS releases vanities like Blood weapons, it will be different.)

2) Please, write better. Your sentences have neither commas nor full stops.

3) I have sold 70% of the things in November and December so far.

There you go mate.
Keep in mind that, in order to criticise someone’s grammar, yours is supposed to be perfect in the first place.

Whats vfx


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[Oakmaiden]

Every thing is overrated, overpriced and mostly useless. Maps are either too easy and boring or too technical/hard and so boring. I’d rather be running an interesting map/event than buying/selling junk to progress. Unfortunately, it’s not an rpg anymore. It’s a Monopoly game.

[jeabahty]

Good gear should be cheap, excellent gear should be expensive
Maps should be doable with good gear, and faster with best gear.

There should be more ways to earn gold that goldloot, as maps are basically
trash without gl and a gl set is extra cost that aren't cheap.
So you often see players that afk, or as good as if they are afk in indigo.
Because to they save up for gl gear by leeching others, but they have no choice

Lack of buyers ultimately is a result of not having enough players
The ridiculous cost to have decent gear basically yalls
"Pay or gtfo" right in the face of a new player. Some would pay, but most will not

absolutely nailed it. ive always believed that if you cant play a game with decent reliability using in-game gear and loot then the game is really not balanced. its the yardstick ive always used to measure MMOs and f2p games. AL has continuously failed this right from the garetta expansion.

[jeabahty]

Whats vfx


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visual effects. think of the trailing things, waves, leaves, etc. kinda effects around auras. or the golden ring when you wear the full zaarus set. they are all vfx. in very technical terms, even the flares from a mage's fireball is vfx, but i think what op means is the flashy, more visually appealing effects of the vanities.

[Alewwerko]

Everyone rich but don't wanna spend more money I guess

[ItsTheCat]

Here some thoughts I have

I think with high % gold loot gear I’ve heard people can loot around 20m in a couple hours and that was like 2 years ago now gold loot is even more op.

People have gold, for sure. And due to the increase of gold, and gold draining events like blue gems 💎 etc whatever you can spend gold on. Sometimes there is less gold than people want to spend.

However, with more gold loot = inflation. Prices raise really to balance how quickly gold can be looted.

Unless I’m wrong and arlor is broke af


Example tho
you wouldn’t want to sell a LB item for 40b while some new gold loot event or new gear upgrades come out there’s a influx of gold in the game; and it’s easier than ever to get 40b and it may take a month or so before we see that influx.
Then well you could have sold the set for more. Cuz the new owner can sell it for even more now. Or buyers have gold ready. Either way you’d have to match the inflation price to get a good deal.

So there is a window of timing sometimes.

[Anehazaz]

Well, I will use those terms when I have no idea what an item is worth. I won't set an auto until I have some type of feed back on what I'm attempting to buy/sell. Not that I'm trying to get more or less, I'm just clueless. Sometimes you can make an educated guess but thats all it is. A guess. Unless you are buying/selling whatever the new thing is it can be hard to set a price. for example, I have dozens of older vanity sets from events that span close to 10 years. Can't find a price in cs and no one puts prices on the forum anymore. I know they aren't worth a ton but what are they worth? For those of you that actually follow these things you might know but I have no idea. So yes, I'll ask for offers and if it sounds good I'll sell. If not I keep looking.

I agree overall it's hard to buy/sell now. All anyone wants is the new things and not everyone can buy them. Inflation is out of control, for gold and plat. Need to spend over 100$ every week on the game these days...that isn't sustainable. Winter will have something new everyone wants and will be a ridiculously hard drop. 1b gold or hundreds in plat. Again and again and again. It's getting old.

so true Cap! I’m also clueless when it comes to pricing some items…plus the games people play…I end up just giving up..thank heavens I maxed inventory when story tokens were useful..

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[2021thalissa]

I’m a 2015 player. I think the only way to resolve this issue is to remove gold bars, have the arcane administration set auction price caps. Remove gear from auction giving the gear to us as we level/ level rewards. Essentials that we would need to play the game. I have to say, I’d love to see people finish the storyline with gear they’d need. Add jewels in locked creates. Enable past leaderboard vanity to be purchased through the arcane store. Me personally, I’d pay at least 200$ in the game to get nun tradable lb Medusa or lb ghost and many other forgotten vanities. I’ve wanted to work for spacetime studios for a while. I’ve always thought about the high prices for the newer players. I’ll say it would have to be a trade meaning having limited time lb vanity sales and purchasable pets every month and just put gear in level rewards while putting jewels and furniture/ ingredients in locked creates. The idea may not stand out but I can promise it would make the game a new game in 2025


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[Americanarmy]

I’m a 2015 player. I think the only way to resolve this issue is to remove gold bars, have the arcane administration set auction price caps. Remove gear from action giving the gear to us as we level/ level rewards. Essentials that we would need to play the game. I have to say, I’d love to see people finish the storyline with gear they’d need. Add jewels in locked creates. Enable past leaderboard vanity to be purchased through the arcane store. Me personally, I’d pay at least 200$ in the game to get nun tradable lb Medusa or lb ghost and many other forgotten vanities. I’ve wanted to work for spacetime studios for a while. I’ve always thought about the high prices for the newer players. I’ll say it would have to be a trade meaning having limited time lb vanity sales and purchasable pets every month and just put gear in level rewards while putting jewels and furniture/ ingredients in locked creates. The idea may not stand out but I can promise it would make the game a new game in 2025


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I sort of agree i just feel like in other mmorpgs bosses and dungeon drop the best loot and gear But at a rare chance like mythic and and arcane should be dropping from bosses realistcally and if u dont want to wait for random chance at the item u can buy it directly from the store for a price in a package or individually. idk why all arcane and mythic is locked behind absurd gacha paywall. Imagine if all whales and money spender left the game the markets would be empty of any arcanes or mythics and vanitys and about crate tokens vendors they dont have pets or mythic arc weapons anymore to buy indvidualy after 71 maps devs need to change this stuff cause i play other mmorpg games and this ones absurd with gear system like why would i run a dungeon just to get gold i should be getting super rare drops or hell let new tier heroic equipment or spirit drop from map bosses


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[Regis]

I sort of agree i just feel like in other mmorpgs bosses and dungeon drop the best loot and gear But at a rare chance like mythic and and arcane should be dropping from bosses realistcally and if u dont want to wait for random chance at the item u can buy it directly from the store for a price in a package or individually. idk why all arcane and mythic is locked behind absurd gacha paywall. Imagine if all whales and money spender left the game the markets would be empty of any arcanes or mythics and vanitys and about crate tokens vendors they dont have pets or mythic arc weapons anymore to buy indvidualy after 71 maps devs need to change this stuff cause i play other mmorpg games and this ones absurd with gear system like why would i run a dungeon just to get gold i should be getting super rare drops or hell let new tier heroic equipment or spirit drop from map bosses


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No you are wrong about that if platinum buyers left the game, auction would be empty. Cinco can anytime make an account add some plats in his account open crates and boom auction full.
I believe they should change the way we get gear, they should add to maps or leaderboards, and keep the vanities/auras in shop so others can buy them.

[Americanarmy]

No you are wrong about that if platinum buyers left the game, auction would be empty. Cinco can anytime make an account add some plats in his account open crates and boom auction full.
I believe they should change the way we get gear, they should add to maps or leaderboards, and keep the vanities/auras in shop so others can buy them.

Or who ever clear the dungeon the fastest can ger lucrative equipment the “heroic type” new rarity if equipment only obtainable thru lb elite first 3 players or groups can get it and its already awaken with good awakens and gems in it u just lose it if u lose to someone faster then u or something like that


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[Regis]

Or who ever clear the dungeon the fastest can ger lucrative equipment the “heroic type” new rarity if equipment only obtainable thru lb elite first 3 players or groups can get it and its already awaken with good awakens and gems in it u just lose it if u lose to someone faster then u or something like that


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No because the fastest players can loot/get it every event so they will get rich, more rich. Better to add craftable materials or quest side loot. Like you run map 1k times u get component to make new weapon.

[Americanarmy]

No because the fastest players can loot/get it every event so they will get rich, more rich. Better to add craftable materials or quest side loot. Like you run map 1k times u get component to make new weapon.

Thats even better then no? Keeps us engaged


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