Top group score temple

[presp600]

Please leave top group score as a feature in twilight temple. This was removed in recent temple like events and was very disappointing.

[TurnBackTime]

No... Its good as cumulative/total score lb.
You could see in previous dragkin temple, there were not many alt accs.
If it was top score, there's gonna be multiple alt accs from same group of people.

2024 Dragkin temple leaderboards were good.
Top solo, total solo, total group seems to be the optimal solution for alt accs.

If you have a solution for alt accs, suggest that along with this request.

Can do Total group and Top Group but like racing event, the top score should not have rewards...
You know it yourself too, you are going to add atleast 5 or 6 alternate scores with your team on different characters

[presp600]

No... Its good as cumulative/total score lb.
You could see in previous dragkin temple, there were not many alt accs.
If it was top score, there's gonna be multiple alt accs from same group of people.

2024 Dragkin temple leaderboards were good.
Top solo, total solo, total group seems to be the optimal solution for alt accs

why split solo but not split group lol. There is way more alts in solo cuz rewards are usually better. Adding 5/6 top 10 scores in twilight temple group would take way too long. The rewards aren't worth making alts for, they're usually bound. That's why if anything group should have a top score Lb with rewards.

[Leonytis]

No... Its good as cumulative/total score lb.
You could see in previous dragkin temple, there were not many alt accs.
If it was top score, there's gonna be multiple alt accs from same group of people.

2024 Dragkin temple leaderboards were good.
Top solo, total solo, total group seems to be the optimal solution for alt accs

group lb for dragkin wasn't even ran as a "group"
since is was a cumulative score people just clicked the group map and solo'd it


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[Delouis Ball]

No... Its good as cumulative/total score lb.
You could see in previous dragkin temple, there were not many alt accs.
If it was top score, there's gonna be multiple alt accs from same group of people.

2024 Dragkin temple leaderboards were good.
Top solo, total solo, total group seems to be the optimal solution for alt accs.

If you have a solution for alt accs, suggest that along with this request.

Can do Total group and Top Group but like racing event, the top score should not have rewards...
You know it yourself too, you are going to add atleast 5 or 6 alternate scores with your team on different charactersAs I agree there should not be as many alts in the leaderboard, that arguement does not stand for the group leaderboard.

I believe the top group leaderboard should be left alone as well.

If they split solo, they should also split the group LB as well.

Temple leaderboard is meant to be a challenge, and only the top players of each class should be placing in the leaderboards.

Either way, if they split one, they should split the other.

Cheers

-Interrupting

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[Rottings]

Please leave top group score as a feature in twilight temple. This was removed in recent temple like events and was very disappointing.

+1
(Please free my family)

[Learns]

Alts in group were never really a problem, people want to run group with friends, grinding solo is tedious.

[TurnBackTime]

group lb for dragkin wasn't even ran as a "group"
since is was a cumulative score people just clicked the group map and solo'd it


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They soloed it yes but there were no alt characters.
They had to keep running the map to keep the scores.

[TurnBackTime]

why split solo but not split group lol. There is way more alts in solo cuz rewards are usually better. Adding 5/6 top 10 scores in twilight temple group would take way too long. The rewards aren't worth making alts for, they're usually bound. That's why if anything group should have a top score Lb with rewards.

Oh that works.
Bound rewards on top group score lb.

Also, im pretty sure i saw your name atleast 10+ times on the siege event top group score lb.
With multiple characters, your team got atleast 6 or 7 of the spots in top10 siege group lb.
It ain't convincing to say people don't make alt characters for group lb when it comes from someone who did make multiple alt accs for it

[Leonytis]

Oh that works.
Bound rewards on top group score lb.

Also, im pretty sure i saw your name atleast 10+ times on the siege event top group score lb.
With multiple characters, your team got atleast 6 or 7 of the spots in top10 siege group lb.
It ain't convincing to say people don't make alt characters for group lb when it comes from someone who did make multiple alt accs for it

you're wrong lol.
we did 1 alt

siege lb took 5mins


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[presp600]

Oh that works.
Bound rewards on top group score lb.

Also, im pretty sure i saw your name atleast 10+ times on the siege event top group score lb.
With multiple characters, your team got atleast 6 or 7 of the spots in top10 siege group lb.
It ain't convincing to say people don't make alt characters for group lb when it comes from someone who did make multiple alt accs for it

Are we talking about siege? Temple group rewards have always been bound. Last twilight I did 1 group score. also I think i had like 2 top 10 siege scores.

[Leonytis]

They soloed it yes but there were no alt characters.
They had to keep running the map to keep the scores.

so your issue isn't the group top score lb, it's alts on the lb.
sts doesn't care about alts on the lb, solo lb is full of them.

i'm looking at the 2024 temple twilight group lb right now and i only recognise maybe 3 alts

group lb should stay a group event rather than it just being farmed solo

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[Rottings]

Youre completely right

(please give back my dog)

[TurnBackTime]

so your issue isn't the group top score lb, it's alts on the lb.
sts doesn't care about alts on the lb, solo lb is full of them.


Yea my issue is the alts.
Thats why solo lb gets the bound rewards, to prevent alts.
And group top score lb with no rewards to discourage alts but people can boast about their top group score by looking at lb.
( thats wat apoxhd did with his top score in racing lb. no rewards for fastest time on the racing lb but there was a separate lb to display the fastest time)


i'm looking at the 2024 temple twilight group lb right now and i only recognise maybe 3 alts


3 alts on top 10? Don't you think thats a lot?



group lb should stay a group event rather than it just being farmed solo


Lets be honest, even in group, its the mage who kills mobs in later stages with warrior assisting.
Not any different from solo.

[presp600]

Yea my issue is the alts.
Thats why solo lb gets the bound rewards, to prevent alts.
And group top score lb with no rewards to discourage alts but people can boast about their top group score by looking at lb.
( thats wat apoxhd did with his top score in racing lb. no rewards for fastest time on the racing lb but there was a separate lb to display the fastest time)



3 alts on top 10? Don't you think thats a lot?



Lets be honest, even in group, its the mage who kills mobs in later stages with warrior assisting.
Not any different from solo.

3 alts out of 30 players (since its group) is not a lot lol. 7 of the war slots are the same person. Solo has the alt problem not group.


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[exter]

Please leave top group score as a feature in twilight temple. This was removed in recent temple like events and was very disappointing.

what this guy said

[TurnBackTime]

Are we talking about siege? Temple group rewards have always been bound. Last twilight I did 1 group score. also I think i had like 2 top 10 siege scores.

Just using 1 different character from one of the 3 people, results in 2 scores on the group lb.
3 people using 2 alt accs each would be 8 scores on top group score lb

[presp600]

Just using 1 different character from one of the 3 people, results in 2 scores on the group lb.
3 people using 2 alt accs each would be 8 scores on top group score lb

Yeah but no one does this lol. You’re complaining about the wrong lb bud. This has never been a problem for temple group


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[Verse]

+1

(i want my dog back)

[TurnBackTime]

Yeah but no one does this lol. You’re complaining about the wrong lb bud. This has never been a problem for temple group


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In the temple group lbs ive seen, it was mostly dm groups and therapy groups with alt accs.

And here are people from therapy supporting this post.

[presp600]

In the temple group lbs ive seen, it was mostly dm groups and therapy groups with alt accs.

And here are people from therapy supporting this post.

Didn’t do a single alt on group last year pal.


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[Leonytis]

In the temple group lbs ive seen, it was mostly dm groups and therapy groups with alt accs.

And here are people from therapy supporting this post.

making these claims when there wasn't a single therapy alt in the t10 lb lol


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[Learns]

Maybe it's because we all spend billions on gear and want to run with our close friends. Not sure what your issue is, seems like you just want to vent about alts, I'm sure there's a different thread for that.

[Ryu_evin]

+1 Top group score lb

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[TurnBackTime]

Maybe it's because we all spend billions on gear and want to run with our close friends. Not sure what your issue is, seems like you just want to vent about alts, I'm sure there's a different thread for that.

There was an argument about that, after which devs removed the top score for group. It has been effective.
Because total score means there will not be any repeated names on the lb.

You are free to run the event with your friends with just the total score lb, whats stopping you?
Run with your friends, get the spots on the group total score lb

[TurnBackTime]

Please leave top group score as a feature in twilight temple. This was removed in recent temple like events and was very disappointing.

Can you explain why the need for the top group score lb/why was it disappointing when it was removed?

[presp600]

There was an argument about that, after which devs removed the top score for group. It has been effective.
Because total score means there will not be any repeated names on the lb.

You are free to run the event with your friends with just the total score lb, whats stopping you?
Run with your friends, get the spots on the group total score lb

What has it been effective at doing? Group lb isn’t even group anymore, It’s pretty much solo with top 10 spots being individual. There’s no reason to remove top score group when barely anyone does alts on it. With your logic they should remove solo top score too (which would be really dumb and defeat the whole purpose of the event). It’s not a normal event it’s to show who the best players are. It seems you can’t compete with top 10 and are upset about it.


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[presp600]

Can you explain why the need for the top group score lb/why was it disappointing when it was removed?

Because it’s fun trying to get the top score with your friends. It’s actually competitive and not mindless farming that anyone can do.


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[Learns]

Not everyone wants to grind an event for 18 hours a day for lb rewards, temple was good for running a few hours and working together as a team rather then the mindless running of other events, why are you so against sts reverting this change? Why not remove the top solo score while they're at it since for years the lb has been 3-4 players max of each class.

[recilencia123]

-1


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[TurnBackTime]

With your logic they should remove solo top score too (which would be really dumb and defeat the whole purpose of the event). It’s not a normal event it’s to show who the best players are.

Like you said, temple is to show the best individual players in the game.
No point in it being best group of AL. When its the best individual players getting the top score in group as well.


Not everyone wants to grind an event for 18 hours a day for lb rewards, temple was good for running a few hours and working together as a team rather then the mindless running of other events
If you didn't want to grind, you wouldn't even be playing this game. Since the game mainly focuses on the 'mindless farming' PVE aspects.
A few hours of 'running' in event you say... Is it not considered 'mindless running' if its done for lesser hours?



Im just getting used to the new changes in the game.
With the new total group lb, there are groups trying to compete against each other, they run with friends, score and try to get their names on the lb.
This lb format of top solo score, total solo score and total group score not only satisfies the best players in game(top solo), it also satisfies the ones who stay on the game for hours and hours(total solo and total group lbs).

Even if there was a top group lb, it would be good with no rewards. You get to run with your friends for a few hours, score the highest for the group, be on lb, compete with rest on the top group score with no rewards.

[Learns]

No one wants the total score taken away, just add back the overall score, if you don't want to run it don't, but lots of us do. And there is also a massive difference between running a map for a few hours vs 18 a day for a week or more straight.

[BEnii]

group score should stay cumulative

[lethal]

group must be cumulative

in highscore its unbalanced, ususally mage and or war just play solo, rogue get carried and is afk
and with one acc can get all lb spots and many more issue

[Regis]

Brooo here is the simple explanation why you can t be on this lb.
Top players, amd most of high gear end players they don t spend anything they just are accounts made by Cinco, so they can have 16% stats on any gear. So it s impossible for any regular player to get such high stats. Cinco tell them how to get rhe end game stats, and bum with just 1-2 arcane awakes they get rhe ultimate stats.

[Leonytis]

The new group format isn't even group based. It's an individual score and it wasn't even ran in groups so it makes no sense.
Top group score had to be done in a group or you had no chance getting on the lb

It should be 3 separate lbs, 2 separate maps - top solo, top group, and a total score lb for people that run solo or in a pt, like any other overall event lb.
The top solo and group points shouldn't count towards the accumulative lb either

The Dragkin top solo players ended up getting total solo lb too, just from all of their attempts to get their high scores. It was basically a 2nd free lb reward and these players still put their alts in the top solo lb anyway


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[Regis]

Like you said, temple is to show the best individual players in the game.
No point in it being best group of AL. When its the best individual players getting the top score in group as well.


If you didn't want to grind, you wouldn't even be playing this game. Since the game mainly focuses on the 'mindless farming' PVE aspects.
A few hours of 'running' in event you say... Is it not considered 'mindless running' if its done for lesser hours?



Im just getting used to the new changes in the game.
With the new total group lb, there are groups trying to compete against each other, they run with friends, score and try to get their names on the lb.
This lb format of top solo score, total solo score and total group score not only satisfies the best players in game(top solo), it also satisfies the ones who stay on the game for hours and hours(total solo and total group lbs).

Even if there was a top group lb, it would be good with no rewards. You get to run with your friends for a few hours, score the highest for the group, be on lb, compete with rest on the top group score with no rewards.

No point to spend on gears, especially when Cinco has accounts in game with end game stats. They all have at least 7% stats on their gear, get the rare awakes. Even when it xomes on leadearboard theh use plats from Cinco. Imagine i spy top players, and when new star gear come out they already have maxed it. Same for blood gear. In just 1 day after gear was release they had it 7%+++ stats. This is a repetitive thing, since they added the game.

[Ugandaahn]

how it was last time was perfect

solo highscore
solo total

and group total

no bull****

[TurnBackTime]

The Dragkin top solo players ended up getting total solo lb too, just from all of their attempts to get a top score. It was basically a 2nd free lb reward and these players still put their alts in the top solo lb anyway

If they ran the map as many times as they did to get on the total solo lb, the rewards were worth it.
But, the alt accs on top solo lb couldn't get into the total solo lb. Because it takes fewer runs to get the alt accs in.
That was the reason for adding the total solo lb.
So the players with stats a bit below the best player, could secure a spot on the total solo lb.
The best player will always try to get as many alt accs as possible, as long as there are rewards for the top score.
The total lb just gives a leeway for the 2nd/3rd best to get the reward from the total solo lb for their efforts and gear.




The new group format isn't even group based. It's an individual score and it wasn't even ran in groups so it makes no sense.
Top group score had to be done in a group or you had no chance getting on the lb



You could say the same about top group lb. Its could be an individual score.
In twilight temple, the warrs could carry the entire team by themselves. The pet AAs from others might help a bit more, but warrs were totally capable of soloing the points needed for group lb. Same as mages.
Besides if they wanted to run the total group lb as solo, they could have very well chosen to run the total solo lb. Your point doesn't make sense.


Even if it was made to be top solo, total score(group or solo combined in 1 lb).
There isnt a reason to add the top group lb.

The total solo and total group are separated so the ones who got the score running in solo, dont get the same rewards as the ones who ran together in a pt with friends/others.

[Regis]

If they ran the map as many times as they did to get on the total solo lb, the rewards were worth it.
But, the alt accs on top solo lb couldn't get into the total solo lb. Because it takes fewer runs to get the alt accs in.
That was the reason for adding the total solo lb.
So the players with stats a bit below the best player, could secure a spot on the total solo lb.
The best player will always try to get as many alt accs as possible, as long as there are rewards for the top score.
The total lb just gives a leeway for the 2nd/3rd best to get the reward from the total solo lb for their efforts and gear.





You could say the same about top group lb. Its could be an individual score.
In twilight temple, the warrs could carry the entire team by themselves. The pet AAs from others might help a bit more, but warrs were totally capable of soloing the points needed for group lb. Same as mages.
Besides if they wanted to run the total group lb as solo, they could have very well chosen to run the total solo lb. Your point doesn't make sense.


Even if it was made to be top solo, total score(group or solo combined in 1 lb).
There isnt a reason to add the top group lb.

The total solo and total group are separated so the ones who got the score running in solo, dont get the same rewards as the ones who ran together in a pt with friends/others.

Look up at my replies, you will find the reason. That event wasn t profitable at all for mid/low game players. They add this temple to manipulatw others with their top leaderboard. I don t think there was more than 10-15 players in the solo leaderboard. Most of them beeing leaders/officers of top guild., meaning Cinco staff.

[TurnBackTime]

Also, why are you insistent on adding the top group lb? If you are geared to the max, just run the top solo lb to get the reward for being the best player.
Temple has always been about the players with the best gears and skills in game.
No one is proving a point by being in the top group lb to be the best group of AL. Since it comes down to individual skills working together anyway. We already see that in normal PVE maps.
And again, its the mage/warr clearing in top group. That mage or warr should definitely be able to get a spot on top solo lb.
Just run the total group lb with your best group to get the group rewards and have fun with your friends.

[Adek Nakal]

I love reading

[TurnBackTime]

You know what would be better for top group lb? A map like EZG.
3 different zones stranded individually with mobs and minis, on clearing that zone individually(without help from others), lets the 3 different classes enter a boss zone where you can only pass if all 3 players are best in gear and skills and can work together to get the 'BEST GROUP' rewards.
Again... it would come down to alt accs on the best group lb. With the rog having 2 different characters, mage having 2 different characters, warr having 2 different characters from the best group. it would end up with 8 spots on the top group score from just these 3 people.
To prevent this, it is better to remove the top group lb.
Not to mention, these guys are top solo players anyway ... Just get the top solo scores

[thuzirr]

group is just warrior or mage playing solo, is no skill

The Reason it was changed to total score is because rogues would pay hundreds of millions for a lb spot which is illegal activity
there were so many illegal issues there

[trickmeister]

exactly, unbalacned classes playing together and Rogues being afk and paying alot of gold or real money to war for carry is bs
its basically a solo highscore map with 2 ppl getting carried paying gold or real money (illegal!=)

and because war is best class and gets highest score solo they carry solo in group

thats the reason it was removed and changed to group total score

[presp600]

War solos in group? Lol have you even ran top 10


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[trickmeister]

last temple event was the perfect balance with solo highscore but also solo total score and group total score

[presp600]

last temple event was the perfect balance with solo highscore but also solo total score and group total score

Why not just have 4 lbs then. With 2 top score lbs, like how it’s been for years. If it isn’t broken don’t fix it.


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[trickmeister]

also no alt accounts in group and solo total score last temple was a blessing for many players

everyone can participate

group highscore just doesnt work in this state of the game 1 warrior getting all 50 lb spots in a group lb playing solo is just dumb and all with the same account, no alt accounts needed if have different teammates
especially convenient when u get paid gold and real money like the warrior making this post rn

[presp600]

also no alt accounts in group and solo total score last temple was a blessing for many players

everyone can participate

group highscore just doesnt work in this state of the game 1 warrior getting all 50 lb spots in a group lb playing solo is just dumb and all with the same account, no alt accounts needed if have different teammates
especially convenient when u get paid gold and real money like the warrior making this post rn

You’re just making stuff up at this point. Check the twilight LB I was on one slot top 10 group and solo. I didn’t get paid to carry people, that doesn’t happen. Only people on this post I see -1 are people who can’t compete in high level pve. Yappin about things that don’t exist. There’s no downside to have it in 4 lbs, everyone’s happy.


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[Leonytis]

Have you ever done t10 temple before?

We've said why we want the top group lb back. scroll up bud

Temple had always been about showing who the top players and groups were.
Now it's just another map you farm mindlessly unless you want to try compete with alts in the top solo


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[Trulex]

group highscore is no group event
its 1 warrior with little help of mage carrying rogues
its basically just solo highscore with the warrior and mage getting paid by rich rogues for lb spots
you make this post for ur benefit

[presp600]

group highscore is no group event
its 1 warrior with little help of mage carrying rogues
its basically just solo highscore with the warrior and mage getting paid by rich rogues for lb spots
you make this post for ur benefit

What’s your ign, seems like you don’t know much about temple.


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[lethal]

funny how the only ppl wanting group highscore from old temples back is the ones abusing it and doing illegal activity

[presp600]

funny how the only ppl wanting group highscore from old temples back is the ones abusing it and doing illegal activity

Reading must be hard, 1 group score is doing illegal activities? 1 group score where no one got carried, and everyone played a part.


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[Ugandaahn]

if you want competition play solo highscor

[Leonytis]

funny how the only ppl wanting group highscore from old temples back is the ones abusing it and doing illegal activity

How are we abusing it?

We did no alts and didn't carry anyone


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[presp600]

if you want competition play solo highscor

Mindless farming that anyone can do is not competitive


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[Ugandaahn]

Mindless farming that anyone can do is not competitive


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solo highscore is a competition not mindless farming

total score is "mindless farming"

[Leonytis]

Anyways .. bring back top group lb


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[presp600]

solo highscore is a competition not mindless farming

total score is "mindless farming"

It’s not mindless at all, there is strategy involved. You have to work together with all the classes kits to get the highest score. It’s not one person doing everything.


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[Voorge]

+1 to bring top highest score group back,
I understand the fact people complain about alts but you can not control it unless you remove whole competitiveness from the ONLY event that gets any attention in this game nowadays.
- alts will be in solo top highest score (that wasn’t removed)
- alts were in group top highest score
- alts are on timed, top player, hardcore, seasonal leaderboards
you can not say alts are the issue and remove 1 of those brackets to justify it.

[Ugandaahn]

bro group is literally solo highscore but only for warriors because wars get by far highest solo score

rogue discrimantion and illegal activities

[Ugandaahn]

It’s not mindless at all, there is strategy involved. You have to work together with all the classes kits to get the highest score. It’s not one person doing everything.


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a rouge using an aa at start of wave to boost warrior and then running all the way down for whole wave hiding and war solo clearing with little help of mage is not a strat
thats what group highscore has always been
stop making this drama

[presp600]

bro group is literally solo highscore but only for warriors because wars get by far highest solo score

rogue discrimantion and illegal activities

Saying the same thing with nothing to back your claims is just making you look like a clown. As someone who’s actually ran it and is a war, you’re completely wrong.


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[Voorge]

bro group is literally solo highscore but only for warriors because wars get by far highest solo score

rogue discrimantion and illegal activities

All 3 classes are yet to get invulnerability skill, what makes you say it’s only warriors lb. Thinking about past lbs doesn’t make sense if such impactful update happens

[Ugandaahn]

All 3 classes are yet to get invulnerability skill, what makes you say it’s only warriors lb. Thinking about past lbs doesn’t make sense if such impactful update happens

the 2 seconds wont change anything

after the 2 seconds the rog is dead, it would still be same strat:
Rogue pays warrior hundreds of mil / 100$+

Rogue uses aa for war at start of wave and runs down to hide and get lb spot

[Voorge]

Common sense is dead I don’t see the point of you arguing so much about it.
Rog can get healed that’s extra invulnerability
Rog has ult with extra invulnerability
Rog utilize procs and AA first that basically gives it invulnerability
just give it up, you make no sense

(Btw its coming from a rog that was on that lb as well and was more useful than u portray it, but I guess you know better)

[Ariadia]

I really hope they do keep temple the same as it’s been for years! But If they change anything at all to incorporate the accumulative system just make group separate from solo.[emoji2370]


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[TurnBackTime]

To the ones who want top group lb :


You know what would be better for top group lb? A map like EZG.
3 different zones stranded individually with mobs and minis, on clearing that zone individually(without help from others), lets the 3 different classes enter a boss zone where you can only pass if all 3 players are best in gear and skills and can work together to get the 'BEST GROUP' rewards.
Again... it would come down to alt accs on the best group lb. With the rog having 2 different characters, mage having 2 different characters, warr having 2 different characters from the best group. it would end up with 8 spots on the top group score from just these 3 people.
To prevent this, it is better to remove the top group lb.
Not to mention, these guys are top solo players anyway ... Just get the top solo scores

Or have a top group lb in the same map as solo with no rewards with just top scores displayed on the lb because you feel the need to be on it, like the best time lb in racing event

[TurnBackTime]

In the current top group lb does the rog go hit mobs in higher waves?

Just uses AA and stays in the corner. Great teamwork.

[Ugandaahn]

In the current top group lb does the rog go hit mobs in higher waves?

Just uses AA and stays in the corner. Great teamwork.

exactly .

[Ooozer]

Guys the only problem in this event, is not the leaderboard. Is the loot. If we would get some kraken droped from boss that mid range player could loot it, definetly many won t complain about solo/ group leaderboard. Or something to craft that drop until wave 20. Maybe some jewel, rare that could be looted in 100 energy etc.

[Ooozer]

Or add jewel to drop from each boss until wave 30, rarity from standard- precise/noble. Or from mobs damaged jewels from every one.

[Ooozer]

Or to add spirit weapons to be crafted in this event. But same components to drop from low boss, like wave 30.

[Brruiser]

I agree that rogs are useless in highscore group runs, but I also agree that the only people complaining about temple are the people that cant withstand loosing to better players

Yes temple is an event where you dont need to farm 24/7, can do a few runs with your friends and a good strategy and get lb.

It isn’t even about gear, you can easily get the top 10 solo leaderboard being 600-700 dex under the average top 10 runners dex. So please stop yapping and complaining ty, your best friend

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[Stardarklord]

Bump, I agree with pres!!


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[Geeple]

+1


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[Rottings]

idk why bro throwin a fit here, if you dont like group top score then dont run it bud, easy, aint gonna make you miss out on any of the other LBs

[Leonytis]

In the current top group lb does the rog go hit mobs in higher waves?

Just uses AA and stays in the corner. Great teamwork.

Have you ever done top 10 group lb?


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[|Ares|]

a rouge using an aa at start of wave to boost warrior and then running all the way down for whole wave hiding and war solo clearing with little help of mage is not a strat
thats what group highscore has always been
stop making this drama

Ah yes, totally forgot that remapping a GROUP map as SOLO player to get scores on both either solo or cumulative was about strategy during last Dragkin temple - so refreshing. Stop trying to block the old temple system just because you're gonna spend 18 hours a day remapping event map at wave 20 to get some rewards that will get their price manipulated later. If you can't score the solo or group score but you know everything about how to do it then it's called skill issue.
Changing the rules of the game for the sake of jobless grind. Great idea.

[|Ares|]

In the current top group lb does the rog go hit mobs in higher waves?

Just uses AA and stays in the corner. Great teamwork.

You resemble so much passion about blocking the idea of putting back the group score lb back into temple that I'm starting to wonder if you actually have ever been successful to ever achieve any of the past temple events?
Because so far all you do was just complaining for the sake of complaining. It's giving reductive at this point.

[|Ares|]

As for the idea on adding back the group score Lb to the event, +1

Majority of people commenting here don't even have a clue on how to even utilize the class they play on a daily basis, let alone be the ones deciding on how competitive Temple event should be. Pity party really.

[recilencia123]

the 2 seconds wont change anything

after the 2 seconds the rog is dead, it would still be same strat:
Rogue pays warrior hundreds of mil / 100$+

Rogue uses aa for war at start of wave and runs down to hide and get lb spot

'O'


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[Tojifushiguro]

+1
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[TurnBackTime]

I have been on the temple lb over the years

Still dont see your point in adding it other than 'bring back old format'.
Many old formats have been removed recently. Get used to new format.
Top group can go back as long as it has the most basic reward for all top50/no reward at all with an lb to see score of total group guys who scored top group points.

But other than the friends of presp600 coming out here to help increase the count, most players are in support the top solo, total solo and total group lb format

[presp600]

I have been on the temple lb over the years

Still dont see your point in adding it other than 'bring back old format'.
Many old formats have been removed recently. Get used to new format.
Top group can go back as long as it has the most basic reward for all top50/no reward at all with an lb to see score of total group guys who scored top group points.

But other than the friends of presp600 coming out here to help increase the count, most players are in support the top solo, total solo and total group lb format
whats your ign

[Ryu_evin]

whats your ignBro wants beef

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[Ooozer]

whats your ign

Guys i told you why leaderboard in temple looks bad in the eye of people and most of them hate group/solo leaderboards. Just because there is not nothing to loot in it, amd the only good staff is from leaderboard. Imagine 2 weeks awakening, another week of watching temple leaderboard that makes people mad, not the leaderboard.

[Leonytis]

I have been on the temple lb over the years

Still dont see your point in adding it other than 'bring back old format'.
Many old formats have been removed recently. Get used to new format.
Top group can go back as long as it has the most basic reward for all top50/no reward at all with an lb to see score of total group guys who scored top group points.

But other than the friends of presp600 coming out here to help increase the count, most players are in support the top solo, total solo and total group lb format

Always making some random claims

"Other than the friends of presp600 coming here to increase the count"
It's just like how you claimed Therapy had alts in the group lb. Show me these alts?

Just accept that people want to see the top group lb back instead of getting upset about it


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[iulicutu]

most players are in support the top solo, total solo and total group lb format
this is false
most players won't make it on either of these lbs

the majority of players don't have the gears/skills/knowledge to make it on top solo/group lbs nor the time to grind 25 hours a day to make it on the cumulative lbs

so u're not advocating for the majority

there are 2 minorities here:

the top geared/skilled/knowledgeable who want top score lbs(from which i'm a part of even thou i mostly attempt solo lbs usually)
the mindless grinding bots who usually make it on most grindfest lbs


that being said both of these lbs have advantages and disadvantages:

the top lbs can have alts(especially on solo but sure some of the op guys could also carry on group sometimes) which has always been unpleasant for the ones of us who attempted securing a spot
but oh well...if they can do it it's their win then; if i could do it i would and i'm sure anyone would if they could
the mindless grind lbs don't really allow alts due to the sheer amount of "playing"(which is botting most of the time) but they also don't give a chance to most players because of it
so if your argument is that this type of lb gives more chances to "majority" of players then you're completely delusional


now then, I support the change requested by the thread's author and my argument in favor of it is this:
we have cumulative lbs all the time all around the year(and if you take the time to look you'll see mostly the same names every time)
the top score type events are only once or twice a year and yes they are meant for those of us who are very well geared and prepared for them
this means investing thousands of dollars and billions of gold in gears/sets, gems/jewels, awakes, pets, etc.

however as i mentioned before both of these types of lbs are for a small minority of players
lbs aren't meant for everyone nor should they be

the majority of players have casual stuff to do like crafting, maybe looting something and so on

last temple event had the group top score lb changed in an attempt made by sts to appeal to both of these minorities(the well geared ppl and the grinders)
but it was a bad implementation(allowing score to count for multiple lbs at the same time doesn't really make much sense imo)

that being said I can understand their thinking to some extent but the truth is you can't please everyone all the time
so i will simply stand for the minority from which i'm a part of and support the return of the top group score

conclusion:
there are plenty of grindfest lbs all the time throughout the year
leave the temple-like events to the ones of us who actually invest and prepare the most for top scoring it(both solo and group)

[memphis]

group highscore is a scam, last temples always it was 1 warrior carrying mage and war and get paid for it

war gets by far highest solo score and carries other classes

group highscore was changed to cumulative for a reason
and is perfect like this

[Voorge]

group highscore is a scam, last temples always it was 1 warrior carrying mage and war and get paid for it

war gets by far highest solo score and carries other classes

group highscore was changed to cumulative for a reason
and is perfect like this

Pretty sure mage was very close if not on the same score as tank last twilight temple,
Group lb was changed and became solo lb
It is not perfect.

[memphis]

Pretty sure mage was very close if not on the same score as tank last twilight temple,
Group lb was changed and became solo lb
It is not perfect.

with mobs having alot of hp now warriors get by far highest score again, you can see at latest temple
its the same thing again

[Rottings]

with mobs having alot of hp now warriors get by far highest score again, you can see at latest temple
its the same thing again

Does this mean you yappers wanna change evg LB too? I doubt most of the ones denying the post can even get a spot on group high score lb in the first place

[memphis]

Does this mean you yappers wanna change evg LB too? I doubt most of the ones denying the post can even get a spot on group high score lb in the first place

nobody cares about evg group lb
0% prestige and no rewards

while temple has 100% prestige most important event and has op rewards

[Voorge]

with mobs having alot of hp now warriors get by far highest score again, you can see at latest temple
its the same thing again

You refer to dragkin temple while asommers said next temple is twilight, that wasn’t scaled. So where did you get your info from?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250110/cf22806a7739371b7cad5caad712d263.jpg

[presp600]

nobody cares about evg group lb
0% prestige and no rewards

while temple has 100% prestige most important event and has op rewards

Since when does group temple have op rewards lol. It’s almost always a bound badge title and banner. It’s an enjoyable event and not brainless like 90% of events now. There’s no need for it to be changed, keep top score.


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[memphis]

all wave maps mobs have alot of hp, it was a bug in the old twilight event that mobs didnt get their hp multiplier every wave and they kept same hp as wave 1, this was fixed early last year and was applied on all wave maps ezg evg temple

[Voorge]

all wave maps mobs have alot of hp, it was a bug in the old twilight event that mobs didnt get their hp multiplier every wave and they kept same hp as wave 1, this was fixed early last year and was applied on all wave maps ezg evg temple

no it was not a bug, dragkin always have been the type of temple where mobs are tankier.

[|Ares|]

all wave maps mobs have alot of hp, it was a bug in the old twilight event that mobs didnt get their hp multiplier every wave and they kept same hp as wave 1, this was fixed early last year and was applied on all wave maps ezg evg temple

I like when people that are clueless about the gameplay throw the words "bug", "nerf" or "buff" out of the blue cause they can't explain what they're facing.
Temple events are related to expansions. Dragkin mobs were always tankier, whereas Twilight resolves around Somberholt expansion where mobs were practical glasscannons hitting harder but easier to kill IF not being debuffed by them.
Think about that next time you toss any of those words.

[Squlo]

If you are capable of making it to top group LB so you can do it in solo LB as well. Too much yapping over nothing just cause of a group wants to secure their rewards in the event.

Instead of arguing people over here "mindlessly" show yourself in top solo LB and secure your own reward.

Peace!?

[memphis]

it was a bug, the health multiplier didnt get applied and mobs kept same hp as wave 1

time for devs to close this nonsense post

[presp600]

it was a bug, the health multiplier didnt get applied and mobs kept same hp as wave 1

time for devs to close this nonsense post

Name 1 reason other than the stuff you make up with "war solo" "war sells slots", that it shouldn't be in the event. Its always been in the event and has almost always been bound rewards. Your delusions just don't happen, there is no drawback of keeping top score in the event. Temple is a unique event and it should stay that way, removing this uniqueness will just make it another boring grind 24/7 event.

[|Ares|]

it was a bug, the health multiplier didnt get applied and mobs kept same hp as wave 1

time for devs to close this nonsense post

Talking about bugs but comes from same guy that was asking for more %ms in corn on harvest event... Please stop

[Cinco]

it was a bug, the health multiplier didnt get applied and mobs kept same hp as wave 1

This is true. There was an issue that prevented monsters from using the correct statistics per wave - and it has been addressed.

[Cinco]

Please leave top group score as a feature in twilight temple. This was removed in recent temple like events and was very disappointing.

I've made the Design team aware of this post and will leave it to them to decide the final features for Twilight Temple 2025.

Thanks for the feedback!


Closing.