High damage build for discussion

[feewhale]

Just want to share my high damage build. It is not necessarily great, just want to seek opinions on it. My crit rate and damage is so high that I can outaggro any good tanks during boss fight.


1. Stats at lvl 16

26 str and 60 dex

2. Skill Distribution at lvl 16

Shadow Piercer - 4 (Except multiple low dmg)
Aimed Shot - 5
Shadow Veil - 4 (Except Combusting decay)
Combat Medic - 2

3. Items to get
Mainly dmg and str items to raise my pathetic health. My weapon is mighty lifesteal of potency for dmg as a reference.

4. Pets
Any pets that adds crit. I love horton and granite cos of the mana regen.

5. Gameplay

This build is centered around high dex, aimed shot and pets. During boss fight, keep spamming aimed shots. By tapping (not charging) this skill, aimed shots could increase my crit rate up to 55% with pet horton.

The added damage by shadow veil is very significant as well. Managed to achieve ~850 dmg with critical aimed shot, and ~300 dmg critical normal hit.

My Evaluation

My health is only around 650 with slightly above average items. The fact that I can out aggro tanks easily makes me more prone to dying of course. My mana is low, but I have lots of mage friends who can replenish them easily. It is a fun high dmg build.



What do you guys think about this?

[feewhale]

Reading the rogue forum, I realized that there are many people who complained about the lack of mana and pumped int instead.

I would really recommend horton. The passive mana regen and active skills that adds int replaces the need for pot. I rarely use any mana pot and manage to spam decently even without my mage friends.

[nenjih]

Hey there,

Can't say I've had much experience at the high end, but just wondering what skill in shadow veil adds damage?

[razerfingers]

I use a kote dmg build. Full dex and i max noxious bolt and aimed shot then health packs. I drop enemies pretty fast

Sent using blood on a bathroom wall

[feewhale]

Nenjih - After the recent patch, shadow absorption has been changed to +15% dmg to you and your allies. Too good to give it a miss imo.

Razerfingers - What's a kote dmg build? Your build sounds really interesting. I assume that you have fantastic equips to compensate for your lack of strength. Do you have to spam mana pots?

[Duflie]

You stated combat medics 2 but could you mention which of the 4 did you pick?

[feewhale]

Oh, I picked self heal. This is so that I can run while healing (kinda like a save pot skill)

[nenjih]

[QUOTE=feewhale;870485]Nenjih - After the recent patch, shadow absorption has been changed to +15% dmg to you and your allies. Too good to give it a miss imo.

QUOTE]

Wow awesome! I was wondering why more rogues were spamming shadow bombs all of a sudden. The original shadow absorption was bugged and did absolutely nothing.

Does it stack with the +10% dmg from Nox bolt?

[Zaodtes]

Maybe useful for a discussion about your high damage build: What's your damage? (DPS on char page/ Aimed shot skill page damage)

[Vystirch]

Um high damage means pure dex. That's my character and I'm a running executioner. Skills are total preference to aoe or single target.

-Vys

[Godkiu]

Um high damage means pure dex. That's my character and I'm a running executioner. Skills are total preference to aoe or single target.

-Vys

what are your health and damage without pet?

[mike1298]

Should consider nox bolt. Each second of poison adds 10% more damage.

[MeredyKwikee]

My rogue is lvl 16, her name is Meredy, my stats are 43 str 220 dex 43 int.. Damage is 179.0..
Skills are as follows: Aimed shot level 5, Noxious Bolt level 4 Smoke bomb lvl 3 Sword shield lvl 2.. This gives me Crit and dmg bonuses for aimed shot, extra 3 seconds of poison, aoe damage and with my bomb it ghives my whole team 15% extra damage for 8 seconds... My pet is mailson, so coupled with 15% dodge for whole party for 8 seconds also, this is a pretty mean build, before rogues got buffed I was critting on elite Jarl, upwards of 600+ to a max 891.. Now with my damage at 179, I have seen crits of 1149, even 1400.. The key to doing this is quick cast noxious and aimed first, Then pop your bomb and AoE shield, And charged aim shot quick cast noxious, rinse and repeat.. Your crit wont drop below 30% and your dodge will be at 35% - 60% at all times.

[dmspker]

People you suck , to have maximum damage must have high dexterity , dps doesn't really matter , bonus damage does = 10 dex 10% bonus , items to be cool atm is agile heartseekers of brutality , agile helm , armor , ring , jewel , accessories must have dex and damage 3.3-3.7 dex 18-21 , if your able to afford this cool stuff your critical with aimed is over 1100 , pet daily bird 20 dex 10 crit

[mike1298]

People you suck , to have maximum damage must have high dexterity , dps doesn't really matter , bonus damage does = 10 dex 10% bonus , items to be cool atm is agile heartseekers of brutality , agile helm , armor , ring , jewel , accessories must have dex and damage 3.3-3.7 dex 18-21 , if your able to afford this cool stuff your critical with aimed is over 1100 , pet daily bird 20 dex 10 crit

Stop saying you suck to people and making things up.I have played with you, in the same guild as a matter of fact. You have 90 less damage than me, and I rarely do 1k+ with that, you do not do 1k+. Tired of the attitude...

If you want to rage on me ingame, ign is who. Feel free.

[Ladycandyheal]

People you suck , to have maximum damage must have high dexterity , dps doesn't really matter , bonus damage does = 10 dex 10% bonus , items to be cool atm is agile heartseekers of brutality , agile helm , armor , ring , jewel , accessories must have dex and damage 3.3-3.7 dex 18-21 , if your able to afford this cool stuff your critical with aimed is over 1100 , pet daily bird 20 dex 10 crit

Learn paragraphs please and please respect other people's opinions.

We don't suck just because we use different builds, use common sense

[Asikraa]

I did a half and half...strength and health...mana and damage
Health is around 1.1k
Strength 99
Damage 73.0
I did shadow piercer,noxious bolt,aimed shot,and the dagger storm thing
In-game name is Asikraa

[dmspker]

Your just not smart enough learn how to play in party :) to do such stuffs your must have another rogue with smoke :) your ridiculous complains makes me sick , one guild doesn't mean we are friends or something it more support , if i able deal 815 with 178%+- 103 dps I'm sure your can do 1100 with maxed gear alright babey

[mike1298]

Your just not smart enough learn how to play in party :) to do such stuffs your must have another rogue with smoke :) your ridiculous complains makes me sick , one guild doesn't mean we are friends or something it more support , if i able deal 815 with 178%+- 103 dps I'm sure your can do 1100 with maxed gear alright babey

198.8 damage or 193 damage with 10% damage boost added to that. I use smoke, nox and aimed. Bud I never said I was your friend. You talk the talk yet I haven't seen you prove it in game. Then you come here telling people they suck? Rethink on that.

[dmspker]

My my to be such a fool :) if your have 193 damage that doesn't means your will deal it :) , proven ? Pff ask devs or support what is maximum possible damage is :o! I can't prove it just because i don't nerd it 24/7 :) last time played week ago , still waiting 21 cap ^^ , if back to theme bonus damage must be over 220% with your damage :) then try again poopy or better lose some damage and get more % :) , oh forgot , each successful shot adds 10% damage , i think it adds maximum till 3 so 30% , + smoke and defence debuff , don't forget to charge always , :) keep charging aim till your hit 1100 :o!!

[mike1298]

My my to be such a fool :) if your have 193 damage that doesn't means your will deal it :) , proven ? Pff ask devs or support what is maximum possible damage is :o! I can't prove it just because i don't nerd it 24/7 :) last time played week ago , still waiting 21 cap ^^ , if back to theme bonus damage must be over 220% with your damage :) then try again poopy or better lose some damage and get more % :) , oh forgot , each successful shot adds 10% damage , i think it adds maximum till 3 so 30% , + smoke and defence debuff , don't forget to charge always , :) keep charging aim till your hit 1100 :o!!

Not saying I don't hit that. 198.8 damage, 212% bonus.

[wsalew]

Ok. I already posted, but no-one answer, so i will try to ask here, because this is really bother me:
when i have equiped weapon "Mighty Lifethief of Potency" - (58.8 damage; 21 strength; 11 Inteligence. Charged attack heals 15% fo damage done) i made a damage about 100 - 200 per hit!
When i equip "Agile Heartseekers of Brutality" - (77.9 damage; 11 strength, 21 dexterity. Chance to cause target to bleed) i made a damage about 35 - 70!
How it is possible when i have higher dexterity with another one ring, and higher damage value, but in a field i didnt have so high damage.
Another thing:
Clever Jeweled Ring of Brutality - (11 strength; 21 Inteligence, 3.7 Damage)
Mighty Jeweled Ring of Grace - (21 Strength, 8 Dexterity, 1.62% Dodge)
How is possible that when i equip first one, that gave me a bonus +12 instead of 3.7, with no dexterity? How its possible? How they bloody calculate damage????????
And another one, with 8 dexterity give me 3.9 to damage.
And also, now i already forgot, but some items without dexterity gave me higher damage then equipment with 19 or higher dexterity (and also, wasnt damage in that item description).
Anyone have an idea how the bloody calculate the attack, or it is only weapon bug?

[Godkiu]

Ok. I already posted, but no-one answer, so i will try to ask here, because this is really bother me:
when i have equiped weapon "Mighty Lifethief of Potency" - (58.8 damage; 21 strength; 11 Inteligence. Charged attack heals 15% fo damage done) i made a damage about 100 - 200 per hit!
When i equip "Agile Heartseekers of Brutality" - (77.9 damage; 11 strength, 21 dexterity. Chance to cause target to bleed) i made a damage about 35 - 70!
How it is possible when i have higher dexterity with another one ring, and higher damage value, but in a field i didnt have so high damage.
Another thing:
Clever Jeweled Ring of Brutality - (11 strength; 21 Inteligence, 3.7 Damage)
Mighty Jeweled Ring of Grace - (21 Strength, 8 Dexterity, 1.62% Dodge)
How is possible that when i equip first one, that gave me a bonus +12 instead of 3.7, with no dexterity? How its possible? How they bloody calculate damage????????
And another one, with 8 dexterity give me 3.9 to damage.
And also, now i already forgot, but some items without dexterity gave me higher damage then equipment with 19 or higher dexterity (and also, wasnt damage in that item description).
Anyone have an idea how the bloody calculate the attack, or it is only weapon bug?

just bought one and tested it. Lifethief can hit 200 without crit but agile brutality can only hit 60-100

[wsalew]

Yeah, exactly. Im glad that its not only my problem. So we may hope, that this will be repaired. Thanks.
But i still wandering how the calculate damage. Because higher item dexterity, doesnt seem the higher damage (no damage in equipped items), at least on the statistic value. Or maybe is that just wrong weapon walues. Idk.

[dmspker]

Not saying I don't hit that. 198.8 damage, 212% bonus.

if you do where's problem and how your old comments connected to " i hit that " accept it , I'm smarter and your did today for first time because i told you how do it

[dmspker]

just bought one and tested it. Lifethief can hit 200 without crit but agile brutality can only hit 60-100

don't you get it ? Different speed , lifethief is sword and heartseekers daggers they hit 4 hits per second average so do

[wsalew]

don't you get it ? Different speed , lifethief is sword and heartseekers daggers they hit 4 hits per second average so do

I just though that "damage" mean one hit damage, not damage per second, or whatever other measure.

Can u also answer me on this also:
Clever Jeweled Ring of Brutality - (11 strength; 21 Inteligence, 3.7 Damage)
Mighty Jeweled Ring of Grace - (21 Strength, 8 Dexterity, 1.62% Dodge)
How is possible that when i equip first one, that gave me a bonus +12 on damage instead of 3.7, with no dexterity? How its possible? How they bloody calculate damage?
Thanks

[mike1298]

Not saying I don't hit that. 198.8 damage, 212% bonus.

if you do where's problem and how your old comments connected to " i hit that " accept it , I'm smarter and your did today for first time because i told you how do it

Go ask judgement or bashem who hits harder. Thanks and bye.

[dmspker]

I just though that "damage" mean one hit damage, not damage per second, or whatever other measure.

Can u also answer me on this also:
Clever Jeweled Ring of Brutality - (11 strength; 21 Inteligence, 3.7 Damage)
Mighty Jeweled Ring of Grace - (21 Strength, 8 Dexterity, 1.62% Dodge)
How is possible that when i equip first one, that gave me a bonus +12 on damage instead of 3.7, with no dexterity? How its possible? How they bloody calculate damage?
Thanks


honestly i have no idea , it can't give more than stats says :/ probably another bug like with fire axes

[carni91]

how do rogues do 800-1000 damage with crits, my damage is 177 and my max crit is 483 with aimed shot charged.

[sirtibby]

how do rogues do 800-1000 damage with crits, my damage is 177 and my max crit is 483 with aimed shot charged.

Stackable bonuses and judicious use of debuffs.

[Montanabro]

My my to be such a fool :) if your have 193 damage that doesn't means your will deal it :) , proven ? Pff ask devs or support what is maximum possible damage is :o! I can't prove it just because i don't nerd it 24/7 :) last time played week ago , still waiting 21 cap ^^ , if back to theme bonus damage must be over 220% with your damage :) then try again poopy or better lose some damage and get more % :) , oh forgot , each successful shot adds 10% damage , i think it adds maximum till 3 so 30% , + smoke and defence debuff , don't forget to charge always , :) keep charging aim till your hit 1100 :o!!

But you do nerd it enough to fill your posts chock-full of emoticons.

[Northy]

nice build. I pretty much copied it and got a 1200 crit with aimed today :D

[nenjih]

My my to be such a fool :) if your have 193 damage that doesn't means your will deal it :) , proven ? Pff ask devs or support what is maximum possible damage is :o! I can't prove it just because i don't nerd it 24/7 :) last time played week ago , still waiting 21 cap ^^ , if back to theme bonus damage must be over 220% with your damage :) then try again poopy or better lose some damage and get more % :) , oh forgot , each successful shot adds 10% damage , i think it adds maximum till 3 so 30% , + smoke and defence debuff , don't forget to charge always , :) keep charging aim till your hit 1100 :o!!

Not too sure about that damage stacking effect of aimed shot.

Description says:

Accuracy - Damage from each successful Aimed Shot attack is increased by 10%.

Not each successive shot

[Romeo Longsword]

Great thread, I have been playing the Rouge very unsuccessfully, having read this I just spam Shadow Vile, then stand there and spam charged regular attack to clear mods. With bosses, just Sim Shot and run around.

I die a lot less, thanks.

[Smurfo]

So I got 199.3 max damage with full dex build +elite items + pet, do you guys happen to know if this is currently max for rogue?

[mike1298]

So I got 199.3 max damage with full dex build +elite items + pet, do you guys happen to know if this is currently max for rogue?

Can go over 200 shown, but 190-195 with 10% damage to 15% will do more.

[NiN]

So is lifethief better or dmg glitched?
I am only at 174dmg but i am saving for next level cap so i am not to worried about spending 300k+, i can wait

[Rushorgtfo]

So I Guess that leaves y'all with 2 choices. Use the crappy builds above or beg me for the best rogue build right here

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r524/joestrums/51B4691E-46E6-407D-BDA5-2A1D2841948D-1273-000000D116CF9B2D.jpg

[azefekie]

i was enjoying reading these silly builds and rants...you ruined it. stop embarrassing them dude.
So I Guess that leaves y'all with 2 choices. Use the crappy builds above or beg me for the best rogue build right here

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r524/joestrums/51B4691E-46E6-407D-BDA5-2A1D2841948D-1273-000000D116CF9B2D.jpg

[carni91]

So I Guess that leaves y'all with 2 choices. Use the crappy builds above or beg me for the best rogue build right here

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r524/joestrums/51B4691E-46E6-407D-BDA5-2A1D2841948D-1273-000000D116CF9B2D.jpg

Rather interesting build although the damage is, lets be honest, very low you have extremely high HP and Mana while at the same time having more crit and dodge than my full dex rogue. Unfortunately your asking whoever is interested to beg you, which I will not, I am curious as to how you managed to have this, well the dodge and crit I could careless for the HP and mana.

[Rushorgtfo]

Rather interesting build although the damage is, lets be honest, very low you have extremely high HP and Mana while at the same time having more crit and dodge than my full dex rogue. Unfortunately your asking whoever is interested to beg you, which I will not, I am curious as to how you managed to have this, well the dodge and crit I could careless for the HP and mana.


Sorry but if you prefer high damadge your askin less than 300 armor and less than 900 HP. You sir have no survivability. Rogues who go for pure damadge are MMO suicide bombers, useless and only good as a meat shield for others.

[carni91]

Sorry but if you prefer high damadge your askin less than 300 armor and less than 900 HP. You sir have no survivability. Rogues who go for pure damadge are MMO suicide bombers, useless and only good as a meat shield for others.

I dont survive much actually, I admit that, I have 650 HP, 700 mana, and 349 armor but, in my opinion, the reason why most pure damage characters in most MMOs are squishy is because the tank is responsible for us surviving in a group instance scenario he should not lose aggro and turn us into "meat shields". The fact that in this MMO pure dex rogues die alot is because we cant run away fast enough, the tank cant keep aggro because they dont have a taunt skill, and because even with the taunt skill the cool down is so long it is practically useless. With that being said alot of our survivability depends on the tank, if I wanted to deal low damage and not deal with the fact that I WILL die alot I would of chosen to make my main character a warrior.

[nenjih]

I dont survive much actually, I admit that, I have 650 HP, 700 mana, and 349 armor but, in my opinion, the reason why most pure damage characters in most MMOs are squishy is because the tank is responsible for us surviving in a group instance scenario he should not lose aggro and turn us into "meat shields". The fact that in this MMO pure dex rogues die alot is because we cant run away fast enough, the tank cant keep aggro because they dont have a taunt skill, and because even with the taunt skill the cool down is so long it is practically useless. With that being said alot of our survivability depends on the tank, if I wanted to deal low damage and not deal with the fact that I WILL die alot I would of chosen to make my main character a warrior.

+1

I can't believe how many tanks run all over the place when tanking Elite Jarl. Ah gee thanks for making him face my way just as he unleashes his charged attack. With an average ping of 400ms that leaves me half a second to react. Thanks a lot tank.

Any fool can pump pure dex, but the reality (if you PUG alot) is that you can't afford to play as a pure glass cannon. I don't mind not doing top end, but still decent, damage if it means I get to survive at least one hit.

[Rushorgtfo]

I dont survive much actually, I admit that, I have 650 HP, 700 mana, and 349 armor but, in my opinion, the reason why most pure damage characters in most MMOs are squishy is because the tank is responsible for us surviving in a group instance scenario he should not lose aggro and turn us into "meat shields". The fact that in this MMO pure dex rogues die alot is because we cant run away fast enough, the tank cant keep aggro because they dont have a taunt skill, and because even with the taunt skill the cool down is so long it is practically useless. With that being said alot of our survivability depends on the tank, if I wanted to deal low damage and not deal with the fact that I WILL die alot I would of chosen to make my main character a warrior.



I agree on some levels but I don't like relying on someone else to be effective at the game yet alone Pvp.

[primaeva]

Looks like Malison active, plus a couple of other buffs, then rushing to the avatar screen and taking a screenshot. :D

[dmspker]

16 lvl 480+- armor 140-143 damage 600hp 615 mana 176+- bonus, buffed everything +15 (150hp mp 15% bonus dmg )survivable rogues is best

[ShadowGunX]

well at lvl 16 we hav 90 attribute points nt 86(26str nd 60dex as u stated in first)

[mike1298]

16 lvl 480+- armor 140-143 damage 600hp 615 mana 176+- bonus, buffed everything +15 (150hp mp 15% bonus dmg )survivable rogues is best

600 health and 61health is not a survival rogue. Thar is extremely low.

[kingmog]

PM me what your build is please Rush:p i might convert back to a rogue if they're not so squishyXD

[PL Playa]

Just to be fair, the build of each player in a party builds on that of the others. A higher damage rogue is better with a warrior that can take a lot of damage an a Mage that can heal as much a possible.

[Dean William Zorad]

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[azbestwarior]

Please hellp me build rogue pure for 26lvl tell me in game nick cabascil

[azbestwarior]

Im need max dmg dps weare gv skill point:(

[ryantat]

I have some questions:
1- Does Bonus Damage% effect to DPS or just for Damage?
2- DPS is from weapon not from Dex, right?

If this does't effect, why we put a lot dex stat instead of strength if that's a DPS rogue build? Instead of putting to dex, we put all points to others...slash and slash...

[Peanutbritle]

I believe that the one single mistake for a rogue to make is to be full dex. You didn't do that however. I find your build interesting but it makes sense. Mine is every level up I do 2 str 3 dex and 1 int. This gives me health, crit, dmg, dodge, hit chance, and mana/health regen. Also, i suggest the pet ribbit for any rogue so you dont die. his ability gives +40% crit and automatically gives you +25 str. That is the part that keeps you alive.

Hope this helps!! Peanut

[ryantat]

I believe that the one single mistake for a rogue to make is to be full dex. You didn't do that however. I find your build interesting but it makes sense. Mine is every level up I do 2 str 3 dex and 1 int. This gives me health, crit, dmg, dodge, hit chance, and mana/health regen. Also, i suggest the pet ribbit for any rogue so you dont die. his ability gives +40% crit and automatically gives you +25 str. That is the part that keeps you alive.

Hope this helps!! Peanut

I love this idea, like me. From DPS depend on weapon, not skills. That's why we don't need to put 6dex/level.

3 dex = 15 health + 2% bonus damage, this will keep your skills damage (4,5 dex stills be 2%, 6 dex = 3%)
3 str = 30 health

mine quiet different with your build but i think it's look like the same.

[Rianaku]

Wow, rampage in the forums ~ hahaha. Anyway, I agree with Rush. The way this game works, there is not enough customization with gear stats to be able to just go full dex without having the opportunity to just burn through pots and/or die.

Relying one someone else is both silly and reasonable at the same time. Silly; Because you can't rely on randoms to be perfect. Reasonable; Because like stated, it is generally a warrior's job to be the meat shield. But the skills and general builds in the game for Warrior's make it rather difficult to be a perfect meat shield, and like Rogue's, obviously not everyone has the same build and/or skills.

So, I agree with Rush, in saying that relying on someone else, especially someone you do not know and trust to protect you in a game where it is actually reasonably hard to be a perfect meat shield warrior is unreasonable.

But at the same time, everyone has their own way of playing the game and it will always be that way. But nice build btw Rush. I'm similar with my Warrior (in a sense) I prefer to be able to survive alone and/or with a party. I try my hardest to hold aggro, but it's really not that simple because I'm balanced to be able to look after myself, and yet be the best meat shield possible.

So no hate towards anyone, but Peace in the paddock guys ~