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TheAnonymous
12-12-2012, 09:46 PM
Looks like the Champion Items are what people are thinking is going to be the next cash cow for them. There is already many of the L15-L16 items up now for 200k+ but there is now a L15 Rogue Champion weapon up there for 1 million.

Airikay
12-12-2012, 09:52 PM
Looks like the Champion Items are what people are thinking is going to be the next cash cow for them. There is already many of the L15-L16 items up now for 200k+ but there is now a L15 Rogue Champion weapon up there for 1 million.

Not sure what you mean. The arcane set? There's also like 5 going for 1000 or less. Just because someone puts a price at a million doesn't mean it's worth it o.o Most all the Forerunner stuff is less than 20k right now. So I fail to see the logic here...

Leftro
12-12-2012, 09:59 PM
Uhhhh forerunner is like 10k below for sorcerrer, 25k below for warrior, idk for rogue but probably 25k below

TheAnonymous
12-12-2012, 10:00 PM
Not sure what you mean. The arcane set? There's also like 5 going for 1000 or less. Just because someone puts a price at a million doesn't mean it's worth it o.o Most all the Forerunner stuff is less than 20k right now. So I fail to see the logic here...

The plat gear is what I am talking about.

As far as the price it is worth what someone is willing to pay for it or feels like paying on their demand for it.

The point of this was people are thinking this is going to be the next big way to roll in that cash and it has already started.

Give it a couple days as with any type of economy once others start to see items being put up higher they will either match or just undercut a bit.

All it takes is ~5-10 if not a bit more people to price their items around these figures and the trend will happen. If you saw 20 people selling the same item as you for 1 million would you really list it at 10k? Very doubtful.

LwMark
12-12-2012, 10:07 PM
Not sure what you mean. The arcane set? There's also like 5 going for 1000 or less. Just because someone puts a price at a million doesn't mean it's worth it o.o Most all the Forerunner stuff is less than 20k right now. So I fail to see the logic here...

The plat gear is what I am talking about.

As far as the price it is worth what someone is willing to pay for it or feels like paying on their demand for it.

The point of this was people are thinking this is going to be the next big way to roll in that cash and it has already started.

Give it a couple days as with any type of economy once others start to see items being put up higher they will either match or just undercut a bit.

All it takes is ~5-10 if not a bit more people to price their items around these figures and the trend will happen. If you saw 20 people selling the same item as you for 1 million would you really list it at 10k? Very doubtful.

No way would i pay that much for those items when you could just buy the plat pack yourself an get 25k from the pack, the complete set and all the inventory and slots

TheAnonymous
12-12-2012, 10:11 PM
No way would i pay that much for those items when you could just buy the plat pack yourself an get 25k from the pack, the complete set and all the inventory and slots


True currently you can but they are removing them once the update happens to replace them with something else and who knows maybe some under the age of getting a credit card or those without have some cash to blow on them due to selling their own items on the CS.

I agree though but with the rush for people trying to collect those items before update those who don't have plat will probably pay what they have to to make sure they secure them before the update.

Airikay
12-12-2012, 10:14 PM
The plat gear is what I am talking about.

As far as the price it is worth what someone is willing to pay for it or feels like paying on their demand for it.

The point of this was people are thinking this is going to be the next big way to roll in that cash and it has already started.

Give it a couple days as with any type of economy once others start to see items being put up higher they will either match or just undercut a bit.

All it takes is ~5-10 if not a bit more people to price their items around these figures and the trend will happen. If you saw 20 people selling the same item as you for 1 million would you really list it at 10k? Very doubtful.

The forerunners...like I said. And people won't list at 1 million continuously when they're only selling for 1k. It cost 50k to list that and it will not be sold. It is not worth it. With how the tax on auction is taken at time of listing, this becomes a buyers market. Because sellers want to sell their items after only one listing. It feels like you're the one selling for 1 million and just trying to drive prices up. Too bad it's 1 vs 10,000.

Edit: Plus the weapons if anything will be sold for least. There are other weapons that look like them. The names don't even have "Forerunner" moniker in them. The only thing that has real value is the body armor IMO.

TheAnonymous
12-12-2012, 10:28 PM
The forerunners...like I said. And people won't list at 1 million continuously when they're only selling for 1k. It cost 50k to list that and it will not be sold. It is not worth it. With how the tax on auction is taken at time of listing, this becomes a buyers market. Because sellers want to sell their items after only one listing. It feels like you're the one selling for 1 million and just trying to drive prices up. Too bad it's 1 vs 10,000.

Edit: Plus the weapons if anything will be sold for least. There are other weapons that look like them. The names don't even have "Forerunner" moniker in them. The only thing that has real value is the body armor IMO.

I actually just finally posted stuff on CS today first time I have even used it and nothing I posted even was over 100k. Driving prices up is not something I do I actually go anywhere from 15-30% lower than the lowest price on the CS.

McBain
12-12-2012, 11:26 PM
Could be wrong, but in the preview Sam only specifically mentioned the Founder's gear being removed with the update. The Champions bundle that contains the Forerunner stuff might still be there, although even if it's not, I don't see these items holding much value in the future.

LwMark
12-12-2012, 11:42 PM
Could be wrong, but in the preview Sam only specifically mentioned the Founder's gear being removed with the update. The Champions bundle that contains the Forerunner stuff might still be there, although even if it's not, I don't see these items holding much value in the future.

Imgame theres even advertisements sayin bundles an founders goin away

McBain
12-13-2012, 12:10 AM
Ok.

Airikay
12-13-2012, 12:46 AM
I kinda feel Hero's Gear looks a lot more Founderish with the Arcane Logo and everything than Founders gear and even the name "Forerunner" common to all the item. If it is also discontinued it will be a season 1 item only like Founders. I think it will be just as wanted. The Body armor at least.

Energizeric
12-13-2012, 01:37 AM
I think the forerunner gear looks way better than the founders gear. It's this armor and helm that should be made vanity!!

Stephen Han
12-13-2012, 01:38 AM
Malison egg for 2m
Kettle egg for 1.3m
Right now in auction lol

Astrocat
12-13-2012, 05:07 AM
Glad I bought em before the price chaos. Teehee

CriticalCyr
12-14-2012, 02:02 AM
Haha, I saw someone in cs today shouting "selling malison egg 1.7mil i wont go any lower". It's easy enough to save up 90 plat for malison and save yourself the months of farming for that kind of cash. If the price is that high, supply and demand won't matter. None of them are going to sell for that.

Energizeric
12-14-2012, 02:17 AM
I may just have to get the mallison egg for 90 plat. My original plan was to only buy stuff for plat that was NOT available in game as drops and could not be bought for gold, but 2m for a pet that cost 90 plat is just crazy. People are saying that the 500 plat for 500k gold is even too high an exchange rate, so 90 plat for an item that runs 2m gold sounds like the deal of the century.

DontNerfMeBro
12-14-2012, 02:59 AM
If you saw 20 people selling the same item as you for 1 million would you really list it at 10k? Very doubtful.

Not to logic troll you but 10k is probably about right. A heavy volume of a certain item at market generally indicates that the item is of small value.

DontNerfMeBro
12-14-2012, 03:00 AM
If you saw 20 people selling the same item as you for 1 million would you really list it at 10k? Very doubtful.

Not to logic troll you but 10k is probably about right. A heavy volume of a certain item at market generally indicates that the item is of small value.

CriticalCyr
12-14-2012, 03:08 AM
I see what Anon was saying. If every listing of an item was 100k+, you could list for less, but a third party will probably see the price difference and buy yours to resell around the higher price. It's only when the higher prices dont sell and people start undercutting each other's prices that we see the prices start to slope downward. As long as it happens gradually and stays that way for a while, the price will have officially dropped. Once people have accepted the new price as the norm, even if someone bought them all and raised the prices drastically, nobody would buy for that high price anymore, unless it were like that for long enough to reset the accepted price range of that item again.

DontNerfMeBro
12-14-2012, 03:19 AM
I see what Anon was saying. If every listing of an item was 100k+, you could list for less, but a third party will probably see the price difference and buy yours to resell around the higher price. It's only when the higher prices dont sell and people start undercutting each other's prices that we see the prices start to slope downward. As long as it happens gradually and stays that way for a while, the price will have officially dropped. Once people have accepted the new price as the norm, even if someone bought them all and raised the prices drastically, nobody would buy for that high price anymore, unless it were like that for long enough to reset the accepted price range of that item again.

I think you're severely underestimating the relative pace of market.

CriticalCyr
12-14-2012, 03:28 AM
Which is why I don't make a very good merchant. My point was, though, if every listing of a certain item is incredibly high, except for one, if I were that third party without any prior knowledge and wanting to make a quick buck, I'd be snatching that item up to repost at slightly less than the others in an effort to make a profit. Unless you're one of the people who kept an eye on that certain item for a while to watch the trends of it, you would get the belief that that item is expensive, regardless of if it normally is/should be cheap.

Rare
12-14-2012, 08:51 AM
Looks like the Champion Items are what people are thinking is going to be the next cash cow for them. There is already many of the L15-L16 items up now for 200k+ but there is now a L15 Rogue Champion weapon up there for 1 million.

Out of curiousity, how many are listed? Most likely its a case of someone seeing none are available and putting it up for an absurd price.

Energizeric
12-15-2012, 04:29 AM
If you saw 20 people selling the same item as you for 1 million would you really list it at 10k? Very doubtful.

You can get in a lot of trouble thinking this way. I'm a merchant in PL and a very successful one at that. And I can tell you that people who think that the CS is a price guide are a big reason why I'm so successful at merching. They are the targets, plain and simple... And they are very predictable. I'm not going to say anymore than that as I don't want to give away my "trade secrets", but let's just say that people who use the CS as a price guide help me out immensely.

DontNerfMeBro
12-15-2012, 05:35 AM
You can get in a lot of trouble thinking this way. I'm a merchant in PL and a very successful one at that. And I can tell you that people who think that the CS is a price guide are a big reason why I'm so successful at merching. They are the targets, plain and simple... And they are very predictable. I'm not going to say anymore than that as I don't want to give away my "trade secrets", but let's just say that people who use the CS as a price guide help me out immensely.

Dam bro. seems like you've really "made it" in life. You talk pro. I'd appreciate if you could help my thread out by posting a comment. you don't have to reveal secrets just give a pro comment or two.

thx in advance pro

Bless
12-15-2012, 06:09 AM
You can get in a lot of trouble thinking this way. I'm a merchant in PL and a very successful one at that. And I can tell you that people who think that the CS is a price guide are a big reason why I'm so successful at merching. They are the targets, plain and simple... And they are very predictable. I'm not going to say anymore than that as I don't want to give away my "trade secrets", but let's just say that people who use the CS as a price guide help me out immensely.

Dam bro. seems like you've really "made it" in life. You talk pro. I'd appreciate if you could help my thread out by posting a comment. you don't have to reveal secrets just give a pro comment or two.

thx in advance pro -.- are u outsoc

DontNerfMeBro
12-15-2012, 06:12 AM
-.- are u outsoc

Is outsoc another trendy MMO acronym I'm not aware of?

DataPunk
12-15-2012, 06:48 AM
Is outsoc another trendy MMO acronym I'm not aware of?

I dunno but ur starting to act like a tough guy lately, please drop the attitude.

Astrocat
12-15-2012, 07:24 AM
Not to logic troll you but 10k is probably about right. A heavy volume of a certain item at market generally indicates that the item is of small value.


Not to logic troll you but 10k is probably about right. A heavy volume of a certain item at market generally indicates that the item is of small value.

Never though you would double post the exact same thing! :p

Astrocat
12-15-2012, 07:26 AM
I dunno but ur starting to act like a tough guy lately, please drop the attitude.

I fully agree with this.