1 Solution to bring OLD PVP BACK!

[winterblood]

Ok, i know many many many of u guys Complaining about THE @#!* FORGOTTEN BOWS/2012 HALLOWEENS!
Here is a solution i thought it would work, i know many of you had already mentioned BUT ill be mentioning again


NO.1: Reducing large amount of damage on forgotten weapons not jus 10 damage but a large amount, or if you can, please Take them all out!


NO.2: Reducing Large amount of damage on HALLOWEEN weapons, making them same as the old 2011 halloweens!


If no.1 and no.2 was done, I'm sure that the population of lvl 1-49 pvpers will increase by a large amount! Also the feed back to pocket legends would be alot more positive and will be mostly rated 5 stars on app store/andriod market/chrome!

So STS devs, if u happens to see this post, I'm sure these changes will only make the game even greater and better than before, so please think about it.

[Deadbite]

It's fine how It is. Just buy a fb and adapt!

[ArtofWar]

it's good how it is bro..

[winterblood]

yes it is fine, but not as fun and skillful comparing when there arent forgotten bows
well u might disagree or thought forgotten are better than before~~~

[Yich]

Lol @ the levels of PvP you all do when you say low level is "fine"... Dont waste your time trying to get sts to fix anything, they only care about what brings in the $, and thats not low level. If I were you Id try endgame or a new game, low level is trash now.

[Reunegade]

Step 1: No hao tu be neeenja
Step 3: Chawp dem in teh furgatin bo
Step 2: Damij en furgatin bo iz haf cuz u chawp en haff
Step 4: Gud jawb baut if u wann be rlly gud use a furgatin haxxor

[Corpser]

Lol @ the levels of PvP you all do when you say low level is "fine"... Dont waste your time trying to get sts to fix anything, they only care about what brings in the $, and thats not low level. If I were you Id try endgame or a new game, low level is trash now.
I disagree low level pvp brings in profit to as people will be willing to by platinum sets or equipment and be forced to use exclusive event items which do indeed cost
$ if something needs to be fixed then it should be fixed

[D-:]

Look buddy, it won't happen.

Here's another solution.

Techno can add more OP weapons to make everything more balanced creating a new era of weapons and armor of pvp.
Sure, you can still collect Experts, Artisans, SBL's, etc, but techno could create more OP weapons which will create a new feel for pvp. Therefor, once it balances out with the new Armors/Weapons/Shields, you'll see 1-49 becoming more active due to the new items making it more balanced for all of us.

I think this is a good situation in my point of view.

Also, if techno is reading this, I'd give this a shot.

You'll get hate for the "new op items" but most people don't understand that you're actually starting something new.

[D-:]

Step 1: No hao tu be neeenja
Step 3: Chawp dem in teh furgatin bo
Step 2: Damij en furgatin bo iz haf cuz u chawp en haff
Step 4: Gud jawb baut if u wann be rlly gud use a furgatin haxxor

You aren't a Dolan like Ely or dudetus.

Just stop.

[Bous]

Hween items r fine. Its the fbows

[Whysoseriouz]

I agree that they need a nerf, hope sts does, but else just rush every1 who uses FB and force them to unequip. That's what I do. ^^ Works pretty well if u have more ppl who hate FB, just team and rush those nubs.

Gf

[Thelastblink]

I'm over it now lol, would be GREAT though if they did, but of course it wont happen lol. If it did, id curse that I have to remake and buy my stuff again.

[Matutd]

I hate people like this. Do you go into lvl 10-20 PvP and complain about op expert and artisan? They haven't always been there, people just bought them and adapted. Just buy a forgotten bow or stop complaining, it's not hard.

[Ersana]

If everyone has a forg, which most do, then the only thing separating them is skill, however if your gonna make an op bow consider making an op staff and sword that can compete with the forg to give some weapon variation

[MightyMicah]

I support this thread. Sts says that we're running out of room with new items. If they would just make the old items worth more than crap, we might get somewhere in this game. Instead we keep getting new overly powerful weapons which make twinking pvp a gigantic facepalm. I used to twink everywhere. Not anymore... The diversity is just gone. Everyone and their mom either has a reaper or a forgotten bow.

[Reunegade]

Higher levels are more fun, because sets > forgotten/halloween items. Maybe you should try that. I still have a 26, but besides that, I twink at higher levels.

[iRusher]

The reason they made 2012 Halloween items better is to be able to counter fbows in low lvl pvp.

[Yich]

I hate people like this. Do you go into lvl 10-20 PvP and complain about op expert and artisan? They haven't always been there, people just bought them and adapted. Just buy a forgotten bow or stop complaining, it's not hard.

Not even worth my time and an infraction. There's a reason people like you get teamed in low level, perhaps one day you'll figure it out.

[MightyMicah]

The reason they made 2012 Halloween items better is to be able to counter fbows in low lvl pvp.

Right, this is why. The logic there is not fathomable. There is one item which is overpowered. Instead of just lowering that one item's power, let's introduce new weapons with more power!...genius

[cookiez]

I agree! There used to be so many 35-45's...45 with a ballista, best fun ever

[MightyMicah]

I agree! There used to be so many 35-45's...45 with a ballista, best fun ever

Yeah 35-45 just kinda died after forgotten bows. Everyone who had "built their kingdom" there found it destroyed, if you get my analogy.

And yes. 45 ballistae was...fun? Haha!

[Aqp (A Quarter Pounder)]

I agree. Reduce forgotten bows. I remade my 35 and I am not happy.

[Flawless]

This obviously must be everyone's first online MMO.

[Yich]

This obviously must be everyone's first online MMO.

Indirectly calls everyone in this thread noob. Says "Online MMO" clearly showing he has no idea what MMO stands for. Gg bro.

[Unclechin]

Someone host a low lvl pvp tourney. No fbs lol... The old low lvl pvpers will come back

[Kixxler]

Don't even try guys, the forgotten bow is staying forever and ever

[winterblood]

If sts cant take them out, its not a problem, just reduce the damage to normal and make forgotten bows as some kind of collective items like the winter fes items or something.

Guys, bringing more op items to counter forgotten bows WILL NOT WORK, it will just make it even worse than ever...
think about it, if STS is able to make new op items, why not jus reduce the damage? IT is Way easier than come up with another set of new OP items and design how it looks etc. sts, why not take the short way instead of making it harder for themselves.

Problem will simply be solved by just reducing the damage OK.

[GELLIO77]

boycott plat in the hope sts will listen

[BlueSkied]

Why is this still even an issue? Lots of players that I've seen call no forgotten fights; just do that, or quit PvP. STS hasn't done away with OP items, and they won't.

[MightyMicah]

Why is this still even an issue? Lots of players that I've seen call no forgotten fights; just do that, or quit PvP. STS hasn't done away with OP items, and they won't.

People like you ruin games like Pocket Legends. They refuse to see a problem because it benefits themselves. Then they come into the forums and misrepresent the vast majority of the game. How do the devs know what to do when they recieve mixed signals from people like you? Sts hasn't done away with them because they have no idea how pathetic the weapons really are.

[Reunegade]

Guys, hear me out. I know that all of you guys hate forgotten items, and I do, too. But can you please cut the developers some slack? They have done A LOT for us and what do we do? Complain about how overpowered they are? Just respect what others give you. Sure, you can complain sometimes, but these threads are getting old. They've already nerf'd them twice, first giving them a base stat raise, then reducing the minimum and maximum damage output by 10. I know you hate the forgotten items. I do too; its just that there are too many of these threads flooding the section. We only need one thread.

[GrammerPatrol]

Please no, I'll be broke I spent 400k 2 bows for my 2 toons, and quit endgame. If they nerf them no one will buy them back for half that price and I'll be broke, then mages will be unstoppable to birds again in 35 pvp. I like the bows, it would be hard to get a reaper if they nerf forg bows because there over 200k and don't have enough auction slots to nerf just 1 slotz nerfing would put the moderate rich people in a tough situation for pvp low level.

[BlueSkied]

Lol. Micah, it's not that serious.

[trueorfalse]

You get nuked as it is, with fb in low level pvp.. New op weapons to be alot better then fb? Then people will be complaining about rushing getting worse..

[D-:]

If sts cant take them out, its not a problem, just reduce the damage to normal and make forgotten bows as some kind of collective items like the winter fes items or something.

Guys, bringing more op items to counter forgotten bows WILL NOT WORK, it will just make it even worse than ever...
think about it, if STS is able to make new op items, why not jus reduce the damage? IT is Way easier than come up with another set of new OP items and design how it looks etc. sts, why not take the short way instead of making it harder for themselves.

Problem will simply be solved by just reducing the damage OK.

You don't get it then. How will it make it worse?

Like in the pre-forg era an SBL was considered op because of the freeze then stomp combo.

If they bring new items, you'll use those and not older stuff. Making it more balanced.

[MightyMicah]

Lol. Micah, it's not that serious.

This is true :) Although, I do wonder what fate awaits STS if their prize game goes to crap. There's so many useless items and sets now due to Halloween, Christmas, and forgotten event.

[Matutd]

I hate people like this. Do you go into lvl 10-20 PvP and complain about op expert and artisan? They haven't always been there, people just bought them and adapted. Just buy a forgotten bow or stop complaining, it's not hard.

Not even worth my time and an infraction. There's a reason people like you get teamed in low level, perhaps one day you'll figure it out.
Mate, the last time I pvped in low level properly forgotten bows didn't exist. Now I just jump into it every now and then. I'll use whichever weapon my opponent is using, therefore skill is the only thing separating us. When I get teamed I don't care, I PvP to have fun not to keep a spotless record like morons like you do. If you complain about getting teamed you're probably a bad player. In fact, if you complain about any aspect of PvP then you're probably a bad player, otherwise you would find a way to overcome the problem, if that means buying a forgotten bow then buy one and stop whining. I'm sorry but talon bears were op for a long while. If forgotten birds are owning you now it's obviously because you aren't a good player, you just got used to doing the same thing over and over to beat opponents.

[Yich]

Mate, the last time I pvped in low level properly forgotten bows didn't exist. Now I just jump into it every now and then. I'll use whichever weapon my opponent is using, therefore skill is the only thing separating us. When I get teamed I don't care, I PvP to have fun not to keep a spotless record like morons like you do. If you complain about getting teamed you're probably a bad player. In fact, if you complain about any aspect of PvP then you're probably a bad player, otherwise you would find a way to overcome the problem, if that means buying a forgotten bow then buy one and stop whining. I'm sorry but talon bears were op for a long while. If forgotten birds are owning you now it's obviously because you aren't a good player, you just got used to doing the same thing over and over to beat opponents.

Lmfao, talon bears were OP... No. You show your ignorance when you say talon bears were OP and so its ok that forg birds are now. Forg birds are ridiculously OP, talon bears were just a good 1v1 class. IMO, mages>bears before the forg update. Mages had huge potential but no one bothered with them because they didnt get kills as fast. Birds were similar, and some decent birds showed up. Sure, bears were OP if you ran in close while they were buffed, but that's your own fault.

A team of 3 birds or 2 birds and a mage can beat any other team. 18 birds just arent beatable. My solution, lower the damage on the forg bow to make them even. Yours it to make everyone become a forg bird. I dont think I need to tell you which solution i prefer, and some individuality is still badly needed in low level.

[Dragonrider023]

or have pvp w peeps who arent using forgotten or halloween.

EDIT: If forgotten are reduced for damage, the price of it will eventually lower.

[Loaden]

I'm telling you once. There is no way you can adapt. Every single update, everything just gets more unbalance, there is no end to this, complaining won't help. Just understand.

[TheBedtBird]

Things are just right. I made all 3 characters for low level to see if things were bird dominated and it wasnt. It its not true, mages dominant level 20 and below. I find myself winning alot more then as a bird or bear. My bear wins alot more then my bird. And my bird wins less more then my mage and bear, but still wins. I think things are balanced just as they are.

[Matutd]

Mate, the last time I pvped in low level properly forgotten bows didn't exist. Now I just jump into it every now and then. I'll use whichever weapon my opponent is using, therefore skill is the only thing separating us. When I get teamed I don't care, I PvP to have fun not to keep a spotless record like morons like you do. If you complain about getting teamed you're probably a bad player. In fact, if you complain about any aspect of PvP then you're probably a bad player, otherwise you would find a way to overcome the problem, if that means buying a forgotten bow then buy one and stop whining. I'm sorry but talon bears were op for a long while. If forgotten birds are owning you now it's obviously because you aren't a good player, you just got used to doing the same thing over and over to beat opponents.

Lmfao, talon bears were OP... No. You show your ignorance when you say talon bears were OP and so its ok that forg birds are now. Forg birds are ridiculously OP, talon bears were just a good 1v1 class. IMO, mages>bears before the forg update. Mages had huge potential but no one bothered with them because they didnt get kills as fast. Birds were similar, and some decent birds showed up. Sure, bears were OP if you ran in close while they were buffed, but that's your own fault.

A team of 3 birds or 2 birds and a mage can beat any other team. 18 birds just arent beatable. My solution, lower the damage on the forg bow to make them even. Yours it to make everyone become a forg bird. I dont think I need to tell you which solution i prefer, and some individuality is still badly needed in low level.
So everyone was a talon bear because they looked good? Mate, get a grip. The reason low level PvP was dominated by dex bears is because they were the dominant class. Yeah, SOME mages and birds were decent, but absolutely anyone could be a dex bear and rack up kills, mages and birds took real skill, hence bears were OP.
And also, yes, it's perfectly fine that forgotten birds are OP now, bears have dominated low level PvP for long enough.

[MightyMicah]

So everyone was a talon bear because they looked good? Mate, get a grip. The reason low level PvP was dominated by dex bears is because they were the dominant class. Yeah, SOME mages and birds were decent, but absolutely anyone could be a dex bear and rack up kills, mages and birds took real skill, hence bears were OP.
And also, yes, it's perfectly fine that forgotten birds are OP now, bears have dominated low level PvP for long enough.

I agree with your first statement. I don't agree that forgotten birds dominating is fine. Good post.

[D-:]

Lmfao, talon bears were OP... No. You show your ignorance when you say talon bears were OP and so its ok that forg birds are now. Forg birds are ridiculously OP, talon bears were just a good 1v1 class. IMO, mages>bears before the forg update. Mages had huge potential but no one bothered with them because they didnt get kills as fast. Birds were similar, and some decent birds showed up. Sure, bears were OP if you ran in close while they were buffed, but that's your own fault.

A team of 3 birds or 2 birds and a mage can beat any other team. 18 birds just arent beatable. My solution, lower the damage on the forg bow to make them even. Yours it to make everyone become a forg bird. I dont think I need to tell you which solution i prefer, and some individuality is still badly needed in low level.

Jake, Marc, and me? Or Jake, me, and your 17 Mage. We would dominate lol.

[D-:]

Things are just right. I made all 3 characters for low level to see if things were bird dominated and it wasnt. It its not true, mages dominant level 20 and below. I find myself winning alot more then as a bird or bear. My bear wins alot more then my bird. And my bird wins less more then my mage and bear, but still wins. I think things are balanced just as they are.

You say you're best bird? Yet you fail to realize how op birds are? LOL

[Matutd]

So everyone was a talon bear because they looked good? Mate, get a grip. The reason low level PvP was dominated by dex bears is because they were the dominant class. Yeah, SOME mages and birds were decent, but absolutely anyone could be a dex bear and rack up kills, mages and birds took real skill, hence bears were OP.
And also, yes, it's perfectly fine that forgotten birds are OP now, bears have dominated low level PvP for long enough.

I agree with your first statement. I don't agree that forgotten birds dominating is fine. Good post.
I'd prefer a balance, yeah, but it's the dex bears that are upset about not being OP and finally have a challenge and then whine about it is what annoys me. Like yich said, mages and birds were good when bears were OP, so a minority of skilled players wi'll also beat OP birds.

[readtitle]

You children need to quit your complaining. STS is coming out with a whole new pvp system for AL and shifting it to PL soon after.

[MightyMicah]

You children need to quit your complaining. STS is coming out with a whole new pvp system for AL and shifting it to PL soon after.

You must be new. ;)

[TheBedtBird]

Why take away forg bows? So mages can rule 35 and bears 29 and below? All classes have a chance against each other now. The other bows are underpowered. I'd delete my twinks if I had to go to using a warbird or intel bird. Anyways the forg bows are here to stay('

[Ladylove]

You must be new. ;)

Oh no, no. Joshypoo is old. Lols.

[MightyMicah]

Why take away forg bows? So mages can rule 35 and bears 29 and below? All classes have a chance against each other now. The other bows are underpowered. I'd delete my twinks if I had to go to using a warbird or intel bird. Anyways the forg bows are here to stay('

You make a good point, but there are other ways to balance stuff instead of just an extremely powerful bow. The problem is that now skill doesn't play as big of a factor in determining who wins. Whereas, before I really think it did. Even thought we were forced to embrace a "if you can't beat em, join em" kinda mentality, skill was still the determining factor. I, for one, miss that big time.

[readtitle]

Just Sayin JustG said it himself about how the new pvp system soon to be in AL will be migrated to PL. Expect changes.

[MightyMicah]

Just Sayin JustG said it himself about how the new pvp system soon to be in AL will be migrated to PL. Expect changes.

I know haha. Manly I was just kidding. Everytime a dev announces something new, there are problems. (Gcd, forgotten, Halloween, skill points at 9)

[Ersana]

The biggest issue is if you get rid of these items or nerf them people who spent ALOT of gold and sometimes all of it to get these items will be screwed over with no money and no weapon

[MightyMicah]

The biggest issue is if you get rid of these items or nerf them people who spent ALOT of gold and sometimes all of it to get these items will be screwed over with no money and no weapon

Tough cheese, bro. If a game is messed up, sts will lose money in the long run. They've screwed over plenty of oldies due to money. If there's a problem (and there is) it should be solved regardless of raging customers. ;)

[Aqp (A Quarter Pounder)]

In the title it said 1 solution, and there's 2. Anyone catch this? :o