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Astrocat
01-23-2013, 09:13 AM
This is not just a suggestion, it is also a thread where I need people to give their thoughts, and talk about it, since this is very important, and not just for me. I've talked about it with many players, and I heard it was going on a lot, because nearly everyone agrees.

The Leader Boards, in Top Players (also sections).

There is around 5,000,000 players in Arcane Legends if not more. 25 gets to be on Leader Boards Top Players. 5,000,000 - 25 = 4,999,975. So, I can conclude that being in the 25 firsts, is just amazing and challenging. The thing is, that only first players of each sections gets the Leader Boards reward. This, isn't fair. Yes, I may want a Leader Boards banner really much, but it's maybe because even if we are not the first players, us 24 runners up are still working hard, and use a lot of time. I mean, it's extremely hard to be in the 25 Top Players. I, and a lot of players would just really appreciate being rewarded also for being in the 24 firsts. I don't know, maybe still a banner for the first ones, and a different banner that would be granted to all 24 runners up? I'm not mad, or sad, i'm just trying to figure out why it is unfair. :)

This would be greatly appreciated, and all these players on Leader Boards, would get congratulated for being the first 25 in 5,000,000+ players!

Being a warrior, isn't easy for Leader Boards. Also, most of the ones on it, are the same as the Season 1 ones. Some will nearly stay first forever, because IMO 1,000,000 kills isn't easy to beat.

Please no flaming or anything. Let's keep it clean, and discuss about it, since this is really important for most of us.

Thanks for reading!

wvhills
01-23-2013, 09:45 AM
I'm fine with it the way it is. Of course I'm from the old school where not everyone made the team and 1st, 2nd and 3rd place prizes were handed out and everyone didn't get participation ribbons instead.

Astrocat
01-23-2013, 09:49 AM
I'm fine with it the way it is. Of course I'm from the old school where not everyone made the team and 1st, 2nd and 3rd place prizes were handed out and everyone didn't get participation ribbons instead.

You would also be fine with it if it comes true? :)

wvhills
01-23-2013, 09:53 AM
You would also be fine with it if it comes true? :)

yeah, i don't really care. lol. I'm not into banners but i guess others are.

Yoho
01-23-2013, 09:55 AM
Team STS, please consider this, it's a collective opinion of players, and to be on top25 each season and getting nothing..
And please, can you guys be more predictable and punctual for customers and announce prizes in advance, cause a lot of people were disappointed previous season and stop playing. This also applies for pets, items etc. If you know precisely what are you buying and what you are trying for it becomes challenging and rewarding instead of ambiguous and disappointing.

Astrocat
01-23-2013, 10:00 AM
Team STS, please consider this, it's a collective opinion of players, and to be on top25 each season and getting nothing..
And please, can you guys be more predictable and punctual for customers and announce prizes in advance, cause a lot of people were disappointed previous season and stop playing. This also applies for pets, items etc. If you know precisely what are you buying and what you are trying for it becomes challenging and rewarding instead of ambiguous and disappointing.

Amazing feedback. I totally agree.

CrimsonTider
01-23-2013, 10:00 AM
You have to understand it will never be "fair." Just like the LB's in the other STS games will never be wiped, the same applies to AL. Though I understand where you are coming from, it has been a subject of debate in all previous titles and the conclusion will be the same: Ain't gonna happen.

Astrocat
01-23-2013, 10:05 AM
You have to understand it will never be "fair." Just like the LB's in the other STS games will never be wiped, the same applies to AL. Though I understand where you are coming from, it has been a subject of debate in all previous titles and the conclusion will be the same: Ain't gonna happen.

I never asked for a wipe. Being rewarded for being on the 25 firsts on Leader Boards with 5,000,000+ players is completely reasonable and understandable IMO and in a lot of other's opinion...

octavos
01-23-2013, 10:17 AM
Humm interesting...people are on LB tend to keep fighting for the same spot..this means everyone that has it..will most likely stay in that happy place lol. But I guess thats why season LB are for..to have a new rotation. But having the other LB, most likely needs a change. the same people with the highest kills dont really get knocked off...they just sit there lol...so it would be nice to have 100 people..not just 25. or something so it gets a rotation..maybe having the people on there..get an honorary placement, so others can now have a chance to hit LB.

But thats what LB is about the hard work and dedication...I really dont care for it much, i think of it as waisted space XD. but meh thats my 2 gold pesos, take it for what its worth.

Astrocat
01-23-2013, 10:20 AM
I have to add, the fact that if you look at PvE kills section, and Top Players section, their all the same players that won the Season 1. They will win Season 2, and I don't think they'll get out from there to be honest. That's one of the biggest reasons why the 24 runners up, should also be rewarded for being there, because the real competition is between them, since first ones are just sitting there watching us compete. Also, for all that hard work, time and money that went into it. I am not asking for a wipe at all. I think what I said it completely reasonable and I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be added.

Yes, some of you will say ''then go do time runs, so you can beat them more easily''. My answer to this would be simple: ''I am a warrior''.

BodMaster
01-23-2013, 10:33 AM
I agree and disagree.

I agree more should be rewarded, but I do not agree they should all have the same banner.

1st, 2nd and 3rd should have different banners, and 4th+ should have runners up. Just by looking at that I doubt StS wouldn't want to create that many banners, but who knows.

Kills on the other hand, should be counted separately per season. Meaning Season 1+2 kills shouldn't combine with Seasons 3 etc. Each season a new player should at least have the chance at the record. No point a new player trying to catch up to 1+ mill kills.

Astrocat
01-23-2013, 10:38 AM
I agree and disagree.

I agree more should be rewarded, but I do not agree they should all have the same banner.

1st, 2nd and 3rd should have different banners, and 4th+ should have runners up. Just by looking at that I doubt StS wouldn't want to create that many banners, but who knows.

Kills on the other hand, should be counted separately per season. Meaning Season 1+2 kills shouldn't combine with Seasons 3 etc. Each season a new player should at least have the chance at the record. No point a new player trying to catch up to 1+ mill kills.

I agree fully. And, I guess that if they made a few new banners for 2nd, 3rd, and runners up, a lot more players would appreciate it, and a lot more competition would come. I guess, there would also be more platinum purchases, to catch up on leader boards.

Vystirch
01-23-2013, 10:40 AM
+2
Anyway, I would like to see this. At first most of my top end players were going for as high as they could go but after this they dropped out of trying for lb banner. They are just happy if they are on the lb. So to alleviate this I believe at least the top 10 should get a banner. Top 25 would be awesome also.

I could see a banner for:
1st
2nd
3rd
Runner ups

This system would make leader boards a lot more competitive which would make plat spent to help achieve these position. (Such as buying ripmaw)

I hope this does get changed, but hi have mediocre hope about it :(

Astrocat
01-23-2013, 10:44 AM
+2
Anyway, I would like to see this. At first most of my top end players were going for as high as they could go but after this they dropped out of trying for lb banner. They are just happy if they are on the lb. So to alleviate this I believe at least the top 10 should get a banner. Top 25 would be awesome also.

I could see a banner for:
1st
2nd
3rd
Runner ups

This system would make leader boards a lot more competitive which would make plat spent to help achieve these position. (Such as buying ripmaw)

I hope this does get changed, but hi have mediocre hope about it :(

Completely agree with this. :)

*Zero*
01-23-2013, 10:57 AM
Sure I see your point, but like in life 2nd place is the first loser. If anything they should reward 1-3 that's it. And it should really only be for timed runs or pvp. Achievements are easy cheesy and so is kill farming. My 0 cents worth.

Astrocat
01-23-2013, 11:16 AM
Leader Boards for PvE kills and Top Players isn't even competition. It's more like a ''let's see who plays the game the most, and who has more time/money to spend in a game'' IMO.

Bless
01-23-2013, 11:23 AM
Didn't see this so sorry didn't mean to copy you but I wrote something similar about a month ago too. I 100000% agree, no point of having 25 spots if all they get is bragging rights.

Astrocat
01-23-2013, 11:29 AM
Didn't see this so sorry didn't mean to copy you but I wrote something similar about a month ago too. I 100000% agree, no point of having 25 spots if all they get is bragging rights.

No worries, never said you did! XD

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Astrocat
01-23-2013, 11:32 AM
There's not even a <1 death kills leaderboards like other games from STS. At least there, I would have a chance..

PS: A 0 death leaderboards would be even better, and this would be a good competitive section.

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drgrimmy
01-23-2013, 12:23 PM
I completely agree and posted similar suggestions in the season 1 lb announcement. I think everyone on the lb should get some sort of credit. Although I did get a banner from season 1 I was kind of annoyed that if you were not number one you did not get any type of recognition. They did not even list the people who were not number one in the announcement. So my suggestions...

1) Everyone on the lb should get a vanity flag, but the number one spot (or perhaps also 2 and 3) should get a different banner.
2) If 1) not doable, then at least recognize everyone on the lb in the announcement on the forums. I mean come on, they even listed the top 50 people who got to 21 on the forums.
3) Make a tab on the leaderboard in game so you can browse the leaderboards from previous seasons.
4) For PvP please breakdown the leaderboards into different classes
5) Resetting kills each season would also be nice. Perhaps have a different lb for "all time kills" and "season kills" to satisfy everyone.

Astrocat
01-23-2013, 12:43 PM
I completely agree and posted similar suggestions in the season 1 lb announcement. I think everyone on the lb should get some sort of credit. Although I did get a banner from season 1 I was kind of annoyed that if you were not number one you did not get any type of recognition. They did not even list the people who were not number one in the announcement. So my suggestions...

1) Everyone on the lb should get a vanity flag, but the number on spot (or perhaps also 2 and 3) should get a different banner.
2) If 1) not doable, then at least recognize everyone on the lb in the announcement on the forums. I mean come on, they even listed the top 50 people who got to 21 on the forums.
3) Make a tab on the leaderboard in game so you can browse the leaderboards from previous seasons.
4) For PvP please breakdown the leaderboards into different classes
5) Resetting kills each season would also be nice. Perhaps have a different lb for "all time kills" and "season kills" to satisfy everyone.

1) Agree 200000%.

2,3,4,5) Agree 100%.

Aeroflame
01-23-2013, 03:28 PM
I agree, but 25 people with a flag kinda kills the point of it being special. maybe top 3.... if they wanna say there can be only one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRWH_seUNRo), then ok.... but the "5 million players" claim has loopholes. How many are actually active? how many accounts are there? anyway stuff like this usually leads to some contrarian flaming up the thread... I'm too lazy to get on LBs. But my family apparently is not. As long as Genesis dominates, I'm good...


Astro I'm supposed to be off sts. quit draggen me back -.-

Astrocat
01-23-2013, 03:30 PM
I agree, but 25 people with a flag kinda kills the point of it being special. maybe top 3.... if they wanna say there can be only one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRWH_seUNRo), then ok.... but the "5 million players" claim has loopholes. How many are actually active? how many accounts are there? anyway stuff like this usually leads to some contrarian flaming up the thread... I'm too lazy to get on LBs. But my family apparently is not. As long as Genesis dominates, I'm good...


Astro I'm supposed to be off sts. quit draggen me back -.-

Lol, Genesis <3 Wait, why are you leaving us?

Bebsi
01-23-2013, 04:30 PM
I completely agree and posted similar suggestions in the season 1 lb announcement. I think everyone on the lb should get some sort of credit. Although I did get a banner from season 1 I was kind of annoyed that if you were not number one you did not get any type of recognition. They did not even list the people who were not number one in the announcement. So my suggestions...

1) Everyone on the lb should get a vanity flag, but the number one spot (or perhaps also 2 and 3) should get a different banner.
2) If 1) not doable, then at least recognize everyone on the lb in the announcement on the forums. I mean come on, they even listed the top 50 people who got to 21 on the forums.
3) Make a tab on the leaderboard in game so you can browse the leaderboards from previous seasons.
4) For PvP please breakdown the leaderboards into different classes
5) Resetting kills each season would also be nice. Perhaps have a different lb for "all time kills" and "season kills" to satisfy everyone.

Yep, an overall kill lb and a seasonal kill lb that gets wiped after the season or just like u said, could be seen over a tab.



I agree, but 25 people with a flag kinda kills the point of it being special. maybe top 3.... if they wanna say there can be only one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRWH_seUNRo), then ok.... but the "5 million players" claim has loopholes. How many are actually active? how many accounts are there? anyway stuff like this usually leads to some contrarian flaming up the thread... I'm too lazy to get on LBs. But my family apparently is not. As long as Genesis dominates, I'm good...


Astro I'm supposed to be off sts. quit draggen me back -.-

5 mio. Players? Nope, maybe downloads. My guild is almost extinct.
For the last two weeks I went back to play PL. When I came back my Guilldie's went inactive.

I agree with Astro on a <=1 death lb. that would be a nice addition.
But honestly... Someone who has a zero death toon doesn't need a goofy looking banner. Stats are speaking for themselfs xD
A better idea would be a vanity helm that would be a part of a vanity set or just a vanity for itself, e.g. It would make every helm u wear have glowing eyes or some kind of smoke. That would be totally awesome instead of a banner.
Imagine u see a player in town wearing a helm with glowing eyes. Whoa, that must be a leaderboarder! Lol

Only the first 3-5 should get rewards. The others shouldn't even be in the lbs so there will be less complaints.
The other sts games only show the top 5 players of each section and class. Could also be implemented here... Just saying ^_^

Aeroflame
01-23-2013, 04:36 PM
In terms of time and money, a banner would be quicker and easier to re-render. like "poof*, its like handing someone their degree right off the printer before framing it.


and @ astro. I'm trying to fade as quietly as I can. I don't really care much for sts anymore, its the honest truth. Though I do like their occasional hijinks. I like gaming with my buds more. made a goodbye thread awhile ago.

Imwatchingyou
01-23-2013, 11:14 PM
Hi there, kitty cat. Achievement list is working as intended. As long has you can find a group, getting those top leader boards should be a sinch`e! Take me for example :D Never been so happy to break one of the elite runs. Can't say which unfortunately but you'll have an idea of the lv 18+ ones ^.^.

Good luck and keep practicing, meow.

Astrocat
01-24-2013, 03:45 AM
Hi there, kitty cat. Achievement list is working as intended. As long has you can find a group, getting those top leader boards should be a sinch`e! Take me for example :D Never been so happy to break one of the elite runs. Can't say which unfortunately but you'll have an idea of the lv 18+ ones ^.^.

Good luck and keep practicing, meow.

I wanna. But I'm a warrior..

Limsi
01-24-2013, 04:00 AM
I personally like the idea of this thread, I hope there's something new when it comes to the LB compared to the other titles :)

Melodicdeath
01-24-2013, 06:42 PM
This has been a rather controversal subject it seems, but a good topic to discuss none the less. So here is my input. With so many players involved with AL, just making it on the lb is a feat. Think about it over 5 mill players and only a small % make it on the board. Do you not agree that everyone on that board deserves some form of recognition? People invest SO much time to get on that board, and to have nothing to show for it is rather uninspiring. Ive been bustin tail to get back on that thing, I'm only points way ( which STS, you still owe me some points of which I was never awarded for achievements~ my complaint is in your support inbox) from earning that lb status again. I've invested time and money into this game, as have several others, and for those who make it on the lb, some sort of award would be nice. They've earned their stars as well as bragging rights...let them shine with a banner.

Deadbite
01-24-2013, 07:28 PM
YES!!! Amen it makes sense for top 10 or 5 not all 25...

Vystirch
01-24-2013, 08:59 PM
This has been a rather controversal subject it seems, but a good topic to discuss none the less. So here is my input. With so many players involved with AL, just making it on the lb is a feat. Think about it over 5 mill players and only a small % make it on the board. Do you not agree that everyone on that board deserves some form of recognition? People invest SO much time to get on that board, and to have nothing to show for it is rather uninspiring. Ive been bustin tail to get back on that thing, I'm only points way ( which STS, you still owe me some points of which I was never awarded for achievements~ my complaint is in your support inbox) from earning that lb status again. I've invested time and money into this game, as have several others, and for those who make it on the lb, some sort of award would be nice. They've earned their stars as well as bragging rights...let them shine with a banner.

*thumbs up*

Astrocat
01-25-2013, 04:09 AM
*thumbs up*

True I totally agree!

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Mohd Nabil Fikri
01-25-2013, 08:57 AM
Agree! !

NiN
01-25-2013, 10:01 AM
I am at 8400 and not even close to 8500 but i do agree, although it will also be nice to get a banner for each class.
I am only #12 but even if i get 8700 points, farming PVE kills is boring if i am at the max level.

[Sisu]Craphe
01-26-2013, 01:53 PM
Mmmmmmhh

Astrocat
01-26-2013, 02:47 PM
Craphe;943048']Mmmmmmhh

Please be more constructive..

SweetieCakes
01-26-2013, 06:28 PM
keep trying. You'll be #1 on top 25 eventually.

Astrocat
01-26-2013, 06:47 PM
keep trying. You'll be #1 on top 25 eventually.

Nah, i'm going for Warrior kills as a 0 death now! :D