GUILD'S SKILLS! #idea

[Lady_Pebbles]

!!! For more ideas on Guilds view my other thread (its in DL but idea applies to all StS games). (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?55227-Suggestion-Guild-vs-Guild-PvP-w-Achievements!) !!!

Lately, I've been thinking about how we could incorporate ways to have a more variety stats and skills in all StS games. A way to make guilds much more useful and interesting as well... & remembering some other MMOs I've played before... I came up with THIS idea (meant for -all- StS games)...

Basicly a system similar to this! Of course it would have to be tweaked for these StS games.... (click for linkie) (http://aika-wiki.gpotato.com/wiki/Guilds)

THE MAIN IDEA

The idea here is to have the ability to gain Guild Skill Points the GM can use to allocate throughout a list of attack and passive skills that benefit -all- members of the guilds. Boosting not only their stats but also add an additional slot (for now one slot would suffice) to the skill slots on the game's HUD. Maybe it could be placed above/below our pet's arcane skill (replacing it in PvP if they decide to keep pets out of it).


-AN EXAMPLE-

When we enter the Guild Castle before entering our Guild Halls we could have one of the NPCs give Guild Quests. These quests will be just like Daily Quests for Tokens (where we can only be able to gain a certain amount of points per day, per member). These points have to add up to a certain amount in order foe the GM to be able to pick the skill(s) he'd like his members to benefit from. Perhaps two sets of skills like we have on our toons on DL & AL; attack and passive skills. Maybe even limit the use of atk skills to one per run (for both pve or pvp). Giving us all another skill option on the menu to make things interesting.

Yes, I know people will make alts just to boost it but we already have a crapload of alts running around (especially twinks!) so it wouldn't make much of a difference.


NOTE: I will probably edit this sometimes... Its always a rough draft. X.x

[Lady_Pebbles]

2-6-13 | Added linkage to Aika Online's Guild Skills info page on Wiki as merely an -example- of what Im talking about.

[CosmoxKramer]

what do you mean by skills? It would be cool like you said for a guild to be able to get points towards a level or purchasing a "skill". However, by skill i think it would be nice to have benefits, not skills. Like, you may be able to get +10/20/30% bonus XP, +10/20/30% gold drop, +10/20/30% gold from vendoring items, ability to get vanity banners or a some guild pets, bonus skill slot (though this can unbalance pvp similar to pets). So it can't be easy to get all these bonuses and as you said there is a cap of points/day that way STS can make it so that you couldn't get to max level or X # of points for 6+months.

If it was a level system, then you guild would unlock specific bonuses at different levels. Otherwise a Skill tree would be cool too or better yet a combination of the 2. where you can only purchase certain skills (with points) if you are a certain guild level. This would make the +30%, legendary pet, and bonus slot obviously the hardest to obtain because you would need a lot of points and a high lvl.
Point cap/day for guild - 100 points

Lvl 1 - 100 points
Lvl 2 - 400 points
Lvl 3 - 750 points
Lvl 4 - 1200 points
Lvl 5 - 1900 points
Lvl 6 - 2400 points
Lvl 7 - 3200 points
Lvl 8 - 4000 points
Lvl 9 - 6000 points
Lvl 10 - 10000 points
This would take just under 300 days to get to max guild level (gives something to achieve over a long period).
The Bonuses could cost something like
500 - 10% xp/gold/vendor, rare guild pet (unlocks between lvl 1 - 4)
1500 - 20% xp/gold/vendor, epic guild pet, vanity banner (Unlocks lvl 5-9)
5000 - 30% xp/gold/vendor, legendary guild pet, bonus skill slot (unlocks lvl 8-10)

So it would cost your points to go up a level, or you could choose to purchase bonuses with the points instead of leveling right away. Even if you belined it for the bonus skill slot it would take 350 days to get it. But all that time, you are missing out of bonus gold/xp/vendor cash, pets and vanities.

To purchase all levels and bonuses it would cost 64450 points or take 644.5 days to obtain it all. I think that would really stretch out the enjoymen of working on your guild.


Thren - how do you get guild points? group of 3+ guildies killing bosses (1/kill/person), elite bosses (3/kill/person), pvp matches (2/person for loss, 4/person for win)...?

[Lady_Pebbles]

Please view the following link:

Here is a link to an example of what Im actually talking about.... A system similar to this. Only minus the exp skill because we have elixirs for that.... X.x (http://aika-wiki.gpotato.com/wiki/Guilds)


Hopefully that would help explain the type of system I was talking about. Please remember it is just an example so don't assume we'll have the same thing.


EDIT: Cosmo, awesome idea as well! Yes we need something like these. Would be great!

[Vystirch]

Cosmox I love your idea! The reward system for points you stated is awesome. Here is what I'd add to it that the going to lvl 10 be able to be repeated. So guilds your go up in lvls like so:
Lvl 0.1 - 100 points 2% bonuses
Lvl 0.2 - 400 points 4% bonuses
Lvl 0.3 - 750 points 7% bonuses
Lvl 0.4 - 1200 points 10% bonuses
Lvl 0.5 - 1900 points 12% bonuses
Lvl 0.6 - 2400 points 16% bonuses
Lvl 0.7 - 3200 points 20% bonuses
Lvl 0.8 - 4000 points 23% bonuses
Lvl 0.9 - 6000 points 27% bonuses
Lvl 1.0 - 10000 points 30% bonuses
Now you have the max bonuses to whatever you specified above like 30% or what ever.
Lvl 1.1 - 10100 points 30% bonuses
Lvl 1.2 - 10400 points 30% bonuses
Lvl 1.3 - 10750 points 30% bonuses
Lvl 1.4 - 11200 points 30% bonuses
Lvl 1.5 - 11900 points 30% bonuses
Lvl 1.6 - 12400 points 30% bonuses
Lvl 1.7 - 13200 points 30% bonuses
Lvl 1.8 - 14000 points 30% bonuses
Lvl 1.9 - 16000 points 30% bonuses
Lvl 2.0 - 20000 points 32% bonuses
Lvl 2.1 - 20100 points 32% bonuses
Lvl 2.2 - 20400 points 32% bonuses
Lvl 2.3 - 20750 points 32% bonuses
Lvl 2.4 - 21200 points 32% bonuses
Lvl 2.5 - 21900 points 32% bonuses
Lvl 2.6 - 22400 points 32% bonuses
Lvl 2.7 - 23200 points 32% bonuses
Lvl 2.8 - 24000 points 32% bonuses
Lvl 2.9 - 26000 points 32% bonuses
Lvl 3.0 - 30000 points 34% bonuses
Etc.

But with each consecutive time of getting up another time to lvl10 basically, you should get a small percentage (2%) added onto the base 30% from getting up to lvl 1.0 this would make older guilds (even older than 300days) have a very minuscule but worthy bonus to obtain.

[Vystirch]

Please view the following link:

Here is a link to an example of what Im actually talking about.... A system similar to this. Only minus the exp skill because we have elixirs for that.... X.x (http://aika-wiki.gpotato.com/wiki/Guilds)


Hopefully that would help explain the type of system I was talking about. Please remember it is just an example so don't assume we'll have the same thing.



Interesting idea thren I love it also! Just something needs.... NEEDS, to happen with guilds.

[Lady_Pebbles]

Yup! Something like that. I know it all sounds a bit complicated (Im sure devs would look at this and be like "ughhhhh!!!" due to the coding lmao) but I think it would add more of a purpose for guilds and a great way to benefit members. :)

EDIT: If we get a Guild vs Guild PvP this would be awesome to contribute to that. Even players who just PvE can benefit from it too! Win/win situation!

[Vystirch]

Yup! Something like that. I know it all sounds a bit complicated (Im sure devs would look at this and be like "ughhhhh!!!" due to the coding lmao) but I think it would add more of a purpose for guilds and a great way to benefit members. :)

EDIT: If we get a Guild vs Guild PvP this would be awesome to contribute to that. Even players who just PvE can benefit from it too! Win/win situation!



Totally after all they said they "will be doing more with guilds"
http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u653/Vystirch/image-25_zps0f25ab2d.jpg

GvG would alone show that they are starting to look into that.

[Lady_Pebbles]

Good shi.... Errr..."stuff"! (this no cursing stuff irks me lol)

[spiderpig]

great idea..the problem is too much work for sts ,too little or no possibility of return profit.maybe if you include something where sts can earn some real cash then they might say aye.

i hope if ever they implement this, im still playing this game.

[Lady_Pebbles]

Raising guild hall tiers for more member space is a way for them to make a profit out of this. ;)

[Lady_Pebbles]

I still want this!!!!

[Ghostlytwink]

How about we incorporate pvp into guilds and actually make pvp more of a competition

For example

1 kill = 5 pvp points
1 death = -7 pvp points
1 party kill = 2 pvp points ( if anyone in ur party kills u get 2 pvp points )

The will be guild ranks

Rank 5 = 0 pvp points requierment
Rank 4 = 10k pvp points requiered
Rank 3 = 45k pvp points requiered
Rank 2 = 95k pvp points requiered
Rank 1 = 205k pvp points requiered
Rank 0 = top 3 guilds

Rank 5-4 have ne benefits
Rank 3-0 can do quest to get guild cape
Rank 2-0 can ally other guilds (maximum of 2 ally) and unlock new capes
Rank 1-0 can add a guild logo to there capes and have it next to there names
Rank 0 will get a special banner with there guild logo that stands out to prove they are the best of the best

With this there will also come player monthly ranking with special symbola for each rank but I wont get into that unless you guys have more questions about it its a lot

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[Vystirch]

Interesting idea ghostly. I think pve should be involved also... But I like the idea.

[Ghostlytwink]

They could be involved but this is just a pvp side im not big fan of pve so someone think of the pve side in reality my system dosent benefit the player but the guild

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[Lady_Pebbles]

I like all of these ideas so far. A guild ranking system instead of a "top guild" LB being based on how many toons in the guild, would be nice as well. Making guildies really earn the spots.

[Ghostlytwink]

I like all of these ideas so far. A guild ranking system instead of a "top guild" LB being based on how many toons in the guild, would be nice as well. Making guildies really earn the spots.



People will just add a bunch of random toons just so they could be on top

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[Lady_Pebbles]

Well if they want their guilds on the top they'll have to work on it with each toon. Not just put each alt in there. The system Im talking about would require players to play on their toons to gain the GPs in order to use the GSs. Doing so would also help the guilds climb the charts.

EDIT: Like a section on the LB for Top Guild with the most Guild Points not with/just the biggest number of members or number of members at cap.

[Diabloh]

It's a really cool Idea, and I like the guild quests, but the Allocation of Guild points, that could make some things unfair. Great Idea though.

[Vystirch]

It's a really cool Idea, and I like the guild quests, but the Allocation of Guild points, that could make some things unfair. Great Idea though.

The thing is is that nothing is every fair.... There is always someone/someguild who will abuse the system, I would just like to see the system created.

Anyway anyone who abuses things normally gets found out and people won't respect them.

[Lady_Pebbles]

Yeah theres always going to be players out there letting the GM status get to their heads but not all of them are like that. Easiest way to deal with it is by reporting and moving onto another guild.

[Lady_Pebbles]

Wondering if anyone else can contribute to this idea? Or hell, are any devs reading this info? Lol

[Lady_Pebbles]

Seriously this would be grrrreat! #tonythetiger

[Lady_Pebbles]

I still really want Guild vs Guild PvP and this system too...

[Vystirch]

Seriously something needs to happen with guilds.....

[CosmoxKramer]

Keep bumping the thread, I love it :)

[Lady_Pebbles]

Lol thanks for the love and support! Lol

[Lady_Pebbles]

Something needs to happen with guilds and IBhope this is one of the addition SOMETIMEA in the future!

[Vystirch]

Something needs to happen with guilds and IBhope this is one of the addition SOMETIMEA in the future!


So do I.

[Lady_Pebbles]

Ikr Vys? I don't see many Cons vs the Pros to these ideas. Hope they can pull this off somehow.

[Vystirch]

Ikr Vys? I don't see many Cons vs the Pros to these ideas. Hope they can pull this off somehow.



I hope they do soon, because tbh it would make many people look at guild differently than just a name or group of people.
With there recent insiders question I am getting a vibe that they are working on something......

-Vys

[Lady_Pebbles]

At this point SOMETHING like this is better than nohing.

[itsmagic]

Yess great!

And for earning cash on this,
Just add things for plat that the whole guild can use: like training dummy's ( with lets say red for the for the attacks on him and blue for what he hit u. And for the training dummy to hit u pop up a menu to adjust the lvl of the dummy)
And things like a big dragonhead on your wall, fireworks idk etcc
And a pvp ground ( for testing builds) were u have to go down the stairs.
Perhaps plat purchable minor boost
(1% boosts )

All plat worthy!

[Lady_Pebbles]

XD seems legit! A PVP testing ground without any additiins to our PvP kdr would be nice! However this is for Guild Skills not really Guild PvP. That idea is linked to my other thread on my first post.

[Vystirch]

Guild need improvement...... They just do, they help keep people interested longer. Which equals plays more/longer, which equals more exposure time to have people buy plat.......... Also guild are the only real social group in sts games, and people like to do stuff together, give them incentive to sts, plz plz pretty plz.....

-Vys



Edit: this is my first post with 6 rep bars, thanks guys! :)

[Lady_Pebbles]

Np! & I agree, guilds are the only reason I keep coming back after cap. To talk to friends & what-not. Other than that the game has been boring me half to death. Smh. Really need more stuff to do as a guild.

[Lady_Pebbles]

Seriously.. Please consider & try for this.. Guilds really need more stuff to do together to keep players coming back...

[Vystirch]

I luv my guild! I want to do more with it!

[Vystirch]

Guilds need an improvement very soon!

-Vys

[Lady_Pebbles]

Yes! More support!!!! Need players to read more of this info lol.

[salvair]

Even i agree to all this im getting bored and its hard to organize guild events for my guild if there was a pvp testing ground i could make an event out of it

[Lady_Pebbles]

Even i agree to all this im getting bored and its hard to organize guild events for my guild if there was a pvp testing ground i could make an event out of it
Hell I'd be all over it like rice on pudding... XD

[salvair]

Hell I'd be all over it like rice on pudding... XD



I bet lol plus all i can do for events right now
Are on my guild forums :(

[Vystirch]

Guilds must have improvements........

[Lady_Pebbles]

Improvements is an understatement! Kinda need hella additions lol.

[Vystirch]

We must have guild upgrades!

[salvair]

Please devs look in to guilds

[Sibayjing]

I also think there should be a greater interest when you have a guild
Currently, the only interest is to gather players.

I consider this is a game primarily on mobile, so I would suggest some improvements such as:

- Limited slot in a guild.
- A guild emblem by vanity flag or other (already mentioned)
- Guild skills unlocked with exp (already mentionned)

for example, It Could have passiv Ability activate when the GM or officer is on the map (using like a horn of renew)

Level / Bonus DEX / STR / INT Level / Bonus armor / speed / ...
Level 1/ +1 Level 1/ 1%
Level 2/ +2 ...
...
Level 5/ +5 Level 5/ 5%

- Guild dungeon with several bosses in a map? Access may be limited by a ticket or a Arcane master key,obtained by the guild exp

Level 1 - 1 key used on one day
Level 2-2 keys ""
Level 3-3 keys ""
Level 4-4 keys ""
Level 5-5 keys ""

Or something else like an empty room where you could summon a boss with a key.


This kind of improvement could strengthen the union of a guild. Thanks for reading

[Vystirch]

I also think there should be a greater interest when you have a guild
Currently, the only interest is to gather players.

I consider this is a game primarily on mobile, so I would suggest some improvements such as:

- Limited slot in a guild.
- A guild emblem by vanity flag or other (already mentioned)
- Guild skills unlocked with exp (already mentionned)

for example, It Could have passiv Ability activate when the GM or officer is on the map (using like a horn of renew)

Level / Bonus DEX / STR / INT Level / Bonus armor / speed / ...
Level 1/ +1 Level 1/ 1%
Level 2/ +2 ...
...
Level 5/ +5 Level 5/ 5%

- Guild dungeon with several bosses in a map? Access may be limited by a ticket or a Arcane master key,obtained by the guild exp

Level 1 - 1 key used on one day
Level 2-2 keys ""
Level 3-3 keys ""
Level 4-4 keys ""
Level 5-5 keys ""

Or something else like an empty room where you could summon a boss with a key.


This kind of improvement could strengthen the union of a guild. Thanks for reading

Nice ideas here, we just need to keep talking about it until they decide to do something.

[Mezmeractus]

Guild LB for organized PVP events.

[Lady_Pebbles]

I completel agree Sib. :)

[salvair]

Im with pebbles and vystich on all of this the devs should do more for guilds on al we have a ton of guilds and nothing to use for them its kind of hard to organizr any kind of events or pvp with guildies to habe guildie vs guildie

[Lady_Pebbles]

@Sal: Its like this on all the StS games so these ideas would be an awesome way to keep players coming back.

[Alhuntrazeck]

We should have Guild Wars or something like it, yknow? And in-guild PvP too. Guilds that are 25+ (AL) would have a great time. And a Guild Msg board so GMs can post announcements and stuff.

[Vystirch]

I wish a Dev would respond to this thread......

[salvair]

Same here vystrich

[Lady_Pebbles]

Wish a dev would respond to this and all my other guild ideas. :/

[salvair]

Sigh come on devs please look at this page we need guild stuff Q.Q i am a gm and i need a way to comunicate with my mebers when im not on please oh please do some thing

[Vystirch]

iK this is on your priority list STS, but I don't think it is anywhere near the top. But it should be, it will help u retain members.

-Vys

[Lady_Pebbles]

Would help with a lot of things actually! Ugh need something!

[Vystirch]

Come on! Give us a response! This is a good part of the game to improve!

-Vys

[Lady_Pebbles]

Yes like Vys said.. A short response would even suffice! :)

[Vystirch]

Just tell us your looking into it.............

[salvair]

I agree there a reponse would be nice

[Vystirch]

*sings about guild fellowshiping and how it could improve*

[Lady_Pebbles]

Maybe the post is too long and they didn't read it! XD Eh probably too busy to pop-in and post anything.

[Vystirch]

Maybe the post is too long and they didn't read it! XD Eh probably too busy to pop-in and post anything.



nah you got it wrong, they dont want to post anything because then they would feel obligated to try to make something happen....

[Bootydots]

Much agreed with adding to the guilds, especially as a former aika player myself. Guilds were actually able to compete with eachother and also had goals they could work together on, besides spamming elites all day... Also top guilds were recognized and ranked, by being able to compete in sort of a guild wars type of deal. the Winning guild would hold the top spot until another guild would feel up to challenging them in a friendly game of guild on guild hardcore pvp action. if you ask me all MMO's should have a system like this. And as far as guild buffs go... making some dailys like lady has said to create some sorta points system, but making every player not involved in adding to the point system unable to acquire the special buff to avoid any guild hopping or leeching. I understand this is a really big step to take but a very important one to us players.

[Vystirch]

*crys an ode to guilds*

[salvair]

Joins vys in ode

[Lady_Pebbles]

@Dots: Thanks. I agree with everything you said. I used to LOVE pvping on Aika Online with guildies. :)

[Ryuushadow]

I DEMAND THIS! <3 Durp

[Vystirch]

Come on.... Reply alrdy!

[salvair]

I dont think the devs or mods care about guilds :(

[hotpimp]

+1 all boosts and buffs from this should be for PvE only.

[Lady_Pebbles]

Thanks for the support yall! Try to get more ppl to post here!!!!

[Lady_Pebbles]

More support on these please! I really think guilds would benefit a lot more from this as well as give them more of a purpose!

[Lady_Pebbles]

Still want lol.

[Vystirch]

If you add this, I might come back sts :/ as it is I think I'm basically retired from AL... RL to busy to want to make time to spend plat :/

[Lady_Pebbles]

If you add this, I might come back sts :/ as it is I think I'm basically retired from AL... RL to busy to want to make time to spend plat :/
I haven't bought plat in a while but yeah, hope you come back some day when you got time. Just to chill in game... Maybe then they'll have something new for guilds... *wishes* lol

[Lady_Pebbles]

Stiiiiill want.

[chintan]

being in a guild and the guild hall needs to be put to better use as of right now the guild hall is only good for potions......

[Lady_Pebbles]

I know this is an old idea but still, I reaaaally want this!

[Soundlesskill]

Pebbles *giggles*
I didn't press the link just read the overview, and I love the idea of daily guild quest, but I such a noob that I didn't understand half of it, but the fuild quest thing to earn tokens would be awesome!
I have a handicap that makes me too lazy for any dailies, but ifthey made it so you could go in groups (parties) and do a quest together for a token or someting, that would be awesome! :D

[Lady_Pebbles]

XD

Basicly, I said daily quests for guild skills points. The points are distributed same way as our passives are (1/5, 2/5 etc) in order to unlock and max out the guild skills. This way we have more use for the guilds and our stats plus attack skills can be customized better/boosted! Also an idea to have a 5th attack skill where the pet arcane skill is and the arcan skill can be just above or next to it.

[Soundlesskill]

XD

Basicly, I said daily quests for guild skills points. The points are distributed same way as our passives are (1/5, 2/5 etc) in order to unlock and max out the guild skills. This way we have more use for the guilds and our stats plus attack skills can be customized better/boosted! Also an idea to have a 5th attack skill where the pet arcane skill is and the arcan skill can be just above or next to it.



Ohhh i see >Says the noob(lol)< well I dont know about that.. Another skill for mages would make them invincible lol

[Kaytar]

Bumpy 4 friend