Need help with this PvP Level/Classes

[Loaden]

I need help with 15 Bear, 18 bird and 35 bear/bird. Help me with the combo, tricks, tactics and skills :) If you wish to share any of your skill point allocation etc only with me, feel free to give me a pm on forums! If not, share your lucrative ideas here.

[jcoultet]

Bear
use this for the bear one eventually if you scroll down you will find the builds i personally would use Entertainings 15 build also it might have the 35 build too.
http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?54357-Entertainings-Guide-to-Twinking
Bird
http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?71789-Level-18-Bird-Guide!&highlight=level+bird+guide
hope this helps

[Depury]

Hey,

Before I say anything, you could just look at the Mega Guide PvP sticky at the top of the forums. Anyway, I'm level 16, and I'm mad successful.
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If you want to use a bird in PvP, go 16.

Stats:
22 Strength
Rest Dex

Skills:
Fogue's suggestion
6 Evade
2 Focus
1 Root
1 Shatter
3 Break Armor
2 Blast Shot

My suggestion
6 Evade
5 Focus
1 Break Armor
1 Root
1 Blast Shot
1 Shatter

Hope this helps,
Depury

PS If you're a beginner, use my suggestion. Fogue's takes a lot of practice.

[Yich]

15 bears are nice because without IB, you get a lot more freedom with your points. Then you can go host level 10 games and join on your 15 for a good time. Forg bow with max rage and a high stomp will make your fights less strategic but will stress the importance of first hit a LOT. Talon fights with a 15 are fun and all, but most kids who demand a talon fight have a hween shield under their vanity and they still pretend to be old school. All in all, if you want a talon fight, use a xmas shield or l10 snipe wing and have your opponent do the same. If they dont then you had might as well use a forgotten bow.

The snowball launcher is more of a fun gun with all the OP stuff now, so probably not wise to invest in a pink.

Dont use more than 5 stomp. Try not to use 3 slashes or more, most fights end before you use them all and truth b told, kite fights with stomp and SMS using a talon are a fun test of ping and knowledge of 8m range. It also teaches buff timing. 15 talon bear really is quite fun.

[Depury]

15 bears are nice because without IB, you get a lot more freedom with your points. Then you can go host level 10 games and join on your 15 for a good time. Forg bow with max rage and a high stomp will make your fights less strategic but will stress the importance of first hit a LOT. Talon fights with a 15 are fun and all, but most kids who demand a talon fight have a hween shield under their vanity and they still pretend to be old school. All in all, if you want a talon fight, use a xmas shield or l10 snipe wing and have your opponent do the same. If they dont then you had might as well use a forgotten bow.

The snowball launcher is more of a fun gun with all the OP stuff now, so probably not wise to invest in a pink.

Dont use more than 5 stomp. Try not to use 3 slashes or more, most fights end before you use them all and truth b told, kite fights with stomp and SMS using a talon are a fun test of ping and knowledge of 8m range. It also teaches buff timing. 15 talon bear really is quite fun.

EW!

My 15 build (Xyxzzxyx)

6 Rage
3 Stomp
2 Super Mega Slash
2 Crippling Slash
1 Vengeful Slash


... Dude... stomp at level 3 gives you maximum range. More than 3 stomp is only useful when you want to strengthen your combo at level 22... Even then, my 22:

6 Beckon
3 Stomp
6 Rage
4 Iron Blood
1 Super Mega Slash
1 Crippling Slash


-You're welcome for the extra build (\^o^/)-

Thanks for listening,
Depury

[jcoultet]

Durp He has a lot of experience at that level and is very respected which is why I would pick his build. My point is he knows what he's talking about.

[Yich]

EW!

My 15 build (Xyxzzxyx)

6 Rage
3 Stomp
2 Super Mega Slash
2 Crippling Slash
1 Vengeful Slash


... Dude... stomp at level 3 gives you maximum range. More than 3 stomp is only useful when you want to strengthen your combo at level 22... Even then, my 22:

6 Beckon
3 Stomp
6 Rage
4 Iron Blood
1 Super Mega Slash
1 Crippling Slash


-You're welcome for the extra build (\^o^/)-

Thanks for listening,
Depury

That's really cute. I remember when I was new to PvP.

5 stomp gives the best chance of stun for your money (skill points) and the stun debuff is -30 hit %. combo that with -25% hit from a forg proc and your opponent is debuffed pretty hard. If they hit your 3 slash build with a high stun chance stomp and they stay out of range of your slashes, you'll lose for sure. Relying on your ability to get in 3-4m range is never a good idea.

[Chickenrunnn]

Before I say anything, you could just look at the Mega Guide PvP sticky at the top of the forums.


:D Here is the link to Mega Guide PvP (that I did :D)
http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?52628-The-mega-GUIDE-PvP-Gears-Skills-tips-for-all-LvLs

Here are the informations ectracted from it :) :

Abut bears :


-Lvl 12 Dex talon bear

Base points : Full dex
Skills points : 6 Rage, 2 stomp, 1 vengeful slash, 1 super mega slash (=SmS), 1 crippling slash
Items : platinum pack helm, talon. L10 pink sled and expert or artisans armor LvL5
Combo : Rage, vengeful, SmS, crippling, stomp
Tips : Try to get as close possible, it will permit you to use your low-range skills


-Lvl 12 Dex talon bear (annilations build/gear)

Base points : Full dex
Skills points : 6 Rage, 3 stomp, 1 vengeful slash, 1 super mega slash.
Items : Plat pack helm, Plat talon, Jewel Thiefs Dark Forest Leather lvl 12, Plat wing:
Combo : Rage, vengeful, SmS, stomp
Tips : Try to get as close as possible, it will permit you to use your] low-range skills : slashes



-Lvl 12 Dex snowball bear

Base points : Full DEX
Skills points : 6 Rage, 3 stomp, 1 vengeful slash, 1 super mega slash.
Items : platinum pack helm, L10 pink snowball launcher, and expert or artisans armor LvL5
Combo : Rage, vengeful, SmS, stomp
Tips : Try to get as close as possible, it will permit you to use your low-ranged skills



-Lvl 15 Dex snowball bear (my build)

Base points : Full DEX
Skills points : 6 Rage, 6 stomp, 1 vengeful slash, 1 super mega slash.
Items : platinum pack helm, L15 pink snowball launcher, and expert or artisans armor (L15).
Combo : Rage, vengeful, SmS, stomp
Tips : Try to get as close as possible, it will permit you to use your low-ranged skills



-Lvl 15 Dex Auto-Bow bear (grenadiers build)

Base points : full DEX
Skills points : 6 Rage, 6 stomp, 2 super mega slash.
Items : platinum pack helm/pirate sniper helm lvl15, L15 pink autobow, and expert or artisans armor LvL15
Combo : Rage, vengeful, SmS,
Tips : Try to get as close as possible, it will permit you to use your low-ranged skills



-Lvl 16 Dex Talon bear (my build)

Base points : Full DEX
Skills points : 5 rage, 5 iron blood, 3 stomp, 1 vengeful slash, 1 super mega slash,
Items : Platinum pack helm, L16 jewel thief's talon, and expert or artisans armor (L15)
Combo : Rage, Iron, venge, mega, stomp
Tips : Try to get as close as possible, it will permit you to use your low-range skills





-Lvl 16 Dex bear (noobmigo's build)

Base points : full DEX
Skills points : 6 rage, 5 iron blood, 3 stomp, 1 sms.
Items : expert/artisan armor, choose a large range bow and kite lol
Combo : rage, iron, sms, stomp
Tips : Try to get as close as possible, it will permit you to use your low-range skills




-Lvl 16 Dex snowball bear

Base points : full DEX
Skills points : 6 rage, 4 iron blood, 3 stomp, 1 vengeful slash, 1 super mega slash
Items : platinum pack helm, L15 pink snowball launcher, and expert or artisans armor (L15).
Combo : Rage, Iron, venge, sms, stomp
Tips : Try to get as close as possible, it will permit you to use your low-ranged skills



-Lvl 17 Dex bear (Plmafiaboss's build)

Base points : Full DEX
Skills points : 6 rage, 5 stomp, 1 iron blood, 2 SMS, 2 crippling slash.
Items : expert/artisan armor, choose a large range bow and kite lol
Combo : Rage, iron, sms, crip, stomp.
Tips : Try to [get as close as possible, it will permit you to use your low-range skills



-Lvl 17 Dex bear (my build)

Base points : Full DEX
Skills points : 6 rage, 6 iron blood, 3 stomp, 1 SMS. .
Items : expert/artisan armor choose a large range bow and kite lol
Combo : Rage, Iron, Stomp, SmS

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About the 18 bird

LvL18 Bird (D-: Build ):

Base points : 32 str 5 int rest dex
Skills points : 6 evade 2 focus 5 break 1 shatter 1 blast 1 root 1 repulse.
Items : 5 Armsman (forged or crafted is fine.)15 Toyman, 10 snipers helm and shield.
Combo :
Vs bird:Evade, focus, break, shatter, blast, root, repulse
Vs bears: Repulse (to kite stomp) break shatter blast root.
Vs mages: root (for them to waste a heal on the root to get out) break shatter blast repulse.
Tips : except if you want a bad KDR, avoid fighting bear lol, keep blast to brake mage mana shields,

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About bears/bird lvl 35:


Bears :

-Lvl 35 Copperhead bear

Base points : - str dex mix.
Skills points : 6 rage, 6 iron blood, 5 stomp, 5 crushing blow, 1 SmS, 5 hell scream, 6 beckon. .
Items :. – Copperhead str set
Combo : rage iron beckon hell crush(when he close) stomp SmS
Tips : Be very close when u use crush to be sure u won’ miss it! U should use it after mage heal :



-Lvl 35 Copperhead bear (gellio's build)

Base points : - str dex mix.
Skills points : 6 Rage 6, Evade 6, Taunt 6, Hellscream 6, Crushing Blow 4, Beckon 3, Stomp2, Super Mega Slash 1.
Items :. – Copperhead str set
Combo : rage evade taunt beckon hell crush(when he close) stomp SmS
Tips : Be very close when u use crush to be sure u won’ miss it! U should use it after mage heal :

Birds :

-Lvl 35 War bird (Gellio's build)

Base points : - str dex mix.
Skills points : 6 evade 6 focus 6 blind shot 6 break armor 6 blast shot 1 root,1 repulse and 2 shat scream
Items : Iceberg sword, copperhead str helm and armor
Combo : evade, focus, root, break shatter blast, blind repulse
Tips :If u fight mages, u have 2 choices : kill them very fast using blast before they put mana shield, OR, wait they use mana shield to brake it with blast



-Lvl 35 Int bird

Base points : - str Int mix.
Skills points : 6 evade 6 focus 6 blind shot 6 break armor 6 blast shot 1 root,1 repulse and 2 shat scream
Items : Voovoo Wand/doll set LvL35
Combo : evade, focus, root, break shatter blast, blind repulse
Tips :If u fight mages, u have 2 choices : kill them very fast using blast before they put mana shield, OR, wait they use mana shield to brake it with blast.

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Note : Since there are forgotten bows now, you should use some of them in your builts :) The skil points will be the same, except you were forggoten bows instead of the items :)

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Hope it helped :p

Cya !! :)

[Noodleleg]

Copper bear:

6 Rage
6 Taunt (or 5 and put 1 in a slash)
6 Evade
3 Beckon
1 Stomp
6 Hellscream
6 Crushing Blow

*Hard build to use. Must be experiences to use this.

[Yich]

EW!

My 15 build (Xyxzzxyx)

6 Rage
3 Stomp
2 Super Mega Slash
2 Crippling Slash
1 Vengeful Slash


... Dude... stomp at level 3 gives you maximum range. More than 3 stomp is only useful when you want to strengthen your combo at level 22... Even then, my 22:

6 Beckon
3 Stomp
6 Rage
4 Iron Blood
1 Super Mega Slash
1 Crippling Slash


-You're welcome for the extra build (\^o^/)-

Thanks for listening,
Depury

The guide you suggested even says high stomp and sms. I personally prefer 6 rage 5 stomp 3 sms, but it's whatever.

[Spyce]

For a L15 Bear use this build

Build 1: 6 rage, 6 stomp, 1 SMS, 1 veng

Build 2: 6 rage, 6 stomp, 2 SMS

[Loaden]

For a 15 Bear I tried using 6 rage 3 stomp 5 sms (90 percent chance of stun) Really really fail, as stomp is more vital. Noodle, that was like my 2 year ago copperbehr build on hearten, I was thinking of removin some CB for slashes? Gimme some pro tips please'! And thank all who helped.