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Loaden
02-27-2013, 04:46 AM
In Pvp level <40, What is the most important thing the bird must do?
Must would say hit break armor,
But I would like to know more. Such as, what is the basic combo against mages birds and bears! Help will be greatly accepted!

Tropic
02-27-2013, 09:03 AM
The most important thing nowadays is fb

Griffinfan
02-27-2013, 09:20 AM
tropic noob. Monkey Paw ftw

Tropic
02-27-2013, 01:43 PM
tropic noob. Monkey Paw ftw
Exactly, a noob :3. Oh and, Ive never seen you using the paw :/ you have always played with fb.

MightyMicah
02-27-2013, 09:50 PM
@Tropic and Griffin Way to fail, guys. Did you even notice the thread?

Loaden- It's a complicated thing to explain what I've learned in pvp in a few simply sentences but I'll do my best.

First of all, know what each skill does. Go to the Archer class discussion here on the forums and see (I think it is) Physiology's guide to understanding the archer skills. I forget the exact name of the thread but it's stickied.

Next, know your opponents weakness! You may have a great dodge debuff, but if the enemy doesn't dodge, then there's no sense wasting your time debuffing them now is there? Know your opponent.

Third, know your own limits! I've found out that at level 50 most mages go down in two shots so long as they're the right ones. Find out what it takes at level 40 to bring each class down buffed, and unbuffed (and that applies to both you and them.)

Fourth, know your range! There's no sense in wasting an 8m skill by shooting it at 12 meters.

Ok. Now I'll give a little grain of knowledge that I've picked up around level 40-

Mages: Mages are weak. Especially with their shield off and when they have an fbow equipped. You can toast them, but make sure they don't have their shield ready. If they have it ready they'll win every time (assuming they know what they're doing.) Even a sucky Mage with a good timed mana shield will whoop a birdy's butt. Anyways, it might be a good idea to pop their shield with blast shot and then repulse them back. Or, if you're really good with your bird, repulse and hit Blast just in time AFTER hitting repulse to still pop their shield.

Now bears: Bears are tough. Particularly the strength bears. Dex bears generally die too quickly, but strength bears with a reaper are formidable foes. You'll want a high blind shot to decrease their hit percentage. Pray you dodge their beckon, but if you don't be ready to root and repulse them away. Keep in mind they have good dodge and armor so you're gonna need your break armor and root(s).

Other birds: Birds are ridiculous. It's as simple as break-root-blast and pray you get lucky. Or you could try repulsing and pray you get a lucky hit. Or you could try root-shat-blast and pray you get lucky. Basically, pray you get lucky. xD

Foxes: Kite them! Their range sucks. Run away while they call you noob and idiot and loser and...Meanwhile they're getting their behind handed to them.

Rhinos: Same story as Foxes, their range just sucks. After a while they're gonna go down.

Hope this helps! If you want more info, hit me up in game! Ign- MightyMicah

floats
02-28-2013, 05:14 AM
BIRDS didn't take luck to win, they need SKILL :3

MightyMicah
02-28-2013, 06:12 AM
BIRDS didn't take luck to win, they need SKILL :3

Were you referring to my post? The only place I mention luck is in bird vs bird combat and that's not because birds are decided by luck, that's because fbow causes birds to be decided by luck. (Only bird vs bird) :)

floats
02-28-2013, 06:26 AM
Were you referring to my post? The only place I mention luck is in bird vs bird combat and that's not because birds are decided by luck, that's because fbow causes birds to be decided by luck. (Only bird vs bird) :)
really? than how come i beated ephesius which is 40, dodges a lot, and oops.

Griffinfan
02-28-2013, 06:55 AM
Exactly, a noob :3. Oh and, Ive never seen you using the paw :/ you have always played with fb.

I mainly use paw for birds ^^

eugeneang12
02-28-2013, 07:07 AM
Were you referring to my post? The only place I mention luck is in bird vs bird combat and that's not because birds are decided by luck, that's because fbow causes birds to be decided by luck. (Only bird vs bird) :)
really? than how come i beated ephesius which is 40, dodges a lot, and oops.

How come I bes burd C:

floats
02-28-2013, 07:48 AM
:3 cuz bes burd haxes...

Griffinfan
02-28-2013, 08:12 AM
there is no such thing as the best bird, ephesuis is just another noob and anybody can claim to be the "best bird" but to be the best you have beat everyone else everytime, which is almost impossible.

Tropic
02-28-2013, 10:00 AM
Nothing is impossible!

Spyce
02-28-2013, 10:04 AM
Too play bird you hax dodge.

MightyMicah
02-28-2013, 11:00 AM
In Pvp level <40, What is the most important thing the bird must do?
Must would say hit break armor,
But I would like to know more. Such as, what is the basic combo against mages birds and bears! Help will be greatly accepted!

Sorry bro, it seems you're thread has been jacked. Does anyone here even have any intention of helping him? No? Great forum. Like I said, bro hit me up in game. :)

Loaden
02-28-2013, 11:06 AM
Really wanted to know more. You seem like a great bird. Was wondering proper combo needed against each class. More Root or Blinding? All are interesting!

Tropic
02-28-2013, 11:39 AM
Ill help you with combos in game, just add Tropic

Waug
02-28-2013, 12:09 PM
Too play bird you hax dodge.

have u ever wondered, that this class at it's best is as fragile as real one without so called hax dodge. Dodging is an art for kfc products other lazy classes can't get to know it.

TheBedtBird
02-28-2013, 12:18 PM
I can help, so as a 40 bird you use

Armor break
Root

Then you can either use shattering scream and blast shot

Or you can use blast shot after the root

And if there still not dead use all the skills that are pushable atm, the fight should be over by then.

Hope this helps:)

MightyMicah
02-28-2013, 12:22 PM
Really wanted to know more. You seem like a great bird. Was wondering proper combo needed against each class. More Root or Blinding? All are interesting!

When dealing damage it goes like this, and this is purely damage wise:

Blast shot>Repulse Shot>Blind shot

Once you've got the right debuffs used, whether it be break armor, blind, or root, or even a combo of these, it's usually best to finish them with the most damaging shots next. If you know the sets at level 35-45, you'll know what exact debuff(s) to use. Then just deal the damage to finish them. (Which isn't hard with a fbow)


I can help, so as a 40 bird you use

Armor break
Root

Then you can either use shattering scream and blast shot

Or you can use blast shot after the root

And if there still not dead use all the skills that are pushable atm, the fight should be over by then.

Hope this helps:)

This guy is saying that's it's always best to use break armor first, then debuff their dodge, then, using blast shot and random skills afterwards, deal the damage.

His combo is bull crap but he's got the right idea. Execute the proper debuff(s), then finish them with the max damage moves. We are dealing purely in concepts here. You won't know exactly what "combo" to use until you are in the middle of combat.

TheBedtBird
02-28-2013, 12:30 PM
Trust me micah, works everytime:)

TheBedtBird
02-28-2013, 12:38 PM
Oh yea I did forget about blind woops

Ok so heres what you do to win vs a another bird

You blind, break

Then either you blast shot, or you can use root and blast shot

Both work very well:)

And against a mage or bear, rhino or fox, you blind root and either blast shot, or break and blast shot, and there ya have it:)

floats
03-01-2013, 05:39 AM
there is no such thing as the best bird, ephesuis is just another noob and anybody can claim to be the "best bird" but to be the best you have beat everyone else everytime, which is almost impossible.

Done that :) but not winning all the time, especiallly with burds, impossible, maybe best around 10-1 on a passed game, tho I never fought pleasedontcry.

Loaden
03-01-2013, 10:02 AM
You use forg. Thats noob already. Best birds dont exist anymore.