Why the windmill is OP.

[hotpimp]

The warrior's windmill "glitch" is OP because its practically an aimedshot, it's actually better then aimedshot because you could get 2-3 1.5k crits AND you get a snare! The warrior is currently OP because of this, they practically have an AIMEDSHOT and a 2 sec invincibitly and 2 heal skills, veng and horn. You might think that warriors aren't OP, the ones you think aren't OP are mostly the ones not exploiting the windmill glitch. I salute u warriors w/o the windmill glitch. I want to hear what you guys think!

[Dragonrider023]

what about rogue, everything about rogue is op. Warrior aren't op compared to rogue and sorcerer. Windmill just heavy in damage and stun and pretty much short.

[hotpimp]

Windmill does 2k damage with glitch? totally not OP (sarcasm)

[Dragonrider023]

Windmill does 2k damage with glitch? totally not OP (sarcasm)

yes, but compared to other class like rogue's aimed shot is way more powerful that Windmill

I don't understand why people complain over warrior "glitch" but not rogue being op without glitch...

[Infrico]

what about rogue, everything about rogue is op. Warrior aren't op compared to rogue and sorcerer. Windmill just heavy in damage and stun and pretty much short.

Rogues are not op, definetely not compared to warrior which now crits like a rogue, more than double the hp, more armor, i mean it is possible but its extremely hard to win, about 10% chance of winning against a good warrior lol

[hotpimp]

Not sure if your kiddig about aimedshot being more OP then windmill or being serious?
Does aimedshot snare ? Does aimedshot have a possiblity to do 7k+ damage in a single twirl? I think not.

[Dragonrider023]

Not sure if your kiddig about aimedshot being more OP then windmill or being serious?
Does aimedshot snare ? Does aimedshot have a possiblity to do 7k+ damage in a single twirl? I think not.

I thought u said 2k, anyway i just play PvP their aimed shot deplete my HP about less than 1/4 when my windmill does few damage to them.

[Cero]

25% skyward stun is Out of control. it autostuns mages eveytime they jump.

[SouLBlizzard]

If arcane legends is a jungle then warrior is the lion,rogue is the tiger and sorcerer is the mouse deer.Just asking devs team,what they mean by reducing the damage burst on pvp?Seem like its the same.I full geared with best L26 armor(sealord of security set about 696 def) still without shield,Im just meat.Startegy?Is there any chance a sorcerer can kill good warrior?Im not asking devs to nerf them but instead buff us.We cant stay like this.

[Marrypoppins]

People can say anything they want about rogue and warriors, right or wrong. One things for sure,,,, Mage needs help. Helpful in group battle behind the lines but in one vs one combat major disadvantage.

[Destructible]

I am a warrior myself, and i think that Windmill should indeed be nerfed. The crits done with snare is just spectacular, over-spectacular perhaps. I'm doing just well without the snare-crit Windmill. In my opinion getting rid of the snare-crit will balance things a lot. Keep snare, discard insane crits.

On a side note, Mages still need a buff.

[Limsi]

I am a warrior myself, and i think that Windmill should indeed be nerfed. The crits done with snare is just spectacular, over-spectacular perhaps. I'm doing just well without the snare-crit Windmill. In my opinion getting rid of the snare-crit will balance things a lot. Keep snare, discard insane crits.

On a side note, Mages still need a buff.

This should be the summary of what should be implemented.

[hotpimp]

Dragonrider, not trying to be mean but if a rogue can kill u, your obviously not an elite player. You say warriors do 25% with windmill? Those are the ones WITHOUT the glitch. I think sts meant for the windmill glitch to work in PvE only....

[Dragonrider023]

Dragonrider, not trying to be mean but if a rogue can kill u, your obviously not an elite player. You say warriors do 25% with windmill? Those are the ones WITHOUT the glitch. I think sts meant for the windmill glitch to work in PvE only....

Why would STS do that? oh to make rogue fell pain of warrior before update. :p

[hotpimp]

I don't understand if you're trying to get your point across or just want to argue, please get off my thread.

[Dragonrider023]

I don't understand if you're trying to get your point across or just want to argue, please get off my thread.

I believe its called troll. lol, you win congratulations. :emmersed:

[Matutd]

If you're close enough to a warrior to be hit with windmill you're playing your class wrong. Unless, of course, you're a warrior too, in which case, do the same thing.

[ishyrionek]

Im warrior, and for me abusing glich is lame...
From other hand, some GM told that evrythink is ok...
Warriors shouldnt be nerfed, just glich should be removed, and there should be anti invicidible shield cd, like for rogue stunts, in pvp, cause actually whos got more warriors invicidible shield, win, no strategy, no skill, only glitch + shield.

[Cero]

Im warrior, and for me abusing glich is lame...
From other hand, some GM told that evrythink is ok...
Warriors shouldnt be nerfed, just glich should be removed, and there should be anti invicidible shield cd, like for rogue stunts, in pvp, cause actually whos got more warriors invicidible shield, win, no strategy, no skill, only glitch + shield.

yea, there is no skill on doin glitch-shield but they developed something
sync'ing shield skill sequence.

[Jackyll]

[QUOTE=Lojack:975202]Windmill is working as intended. All attacks have a chance to crit.[/QUOTE

As per Developer Feb 19th, it is "working as intended" so quit with these posts. PVP is balanced, if you're getting owned by one particualr class or person, to put it blunt, you're not good at PVP. Respec or regear or learn how to play. Warriors have windmill and HoR, Sorcerer have Sheild and stun/push and rogues have Aimed Shot, razor sheild and Nox bolt to multiply damage on all of those. So get better and work for it, quit expecting everyone to baby you and jump on your band wagon because it's old now. This iss has been addressed MULTIPLE times, and therefore irrelevant.

Requesting this thread be locked.

[Szangheili]

what about rogue, everything about rogue is op. Warrior aren't op compared to rogue and sorcerer. Windmill just heavy in damage and stun and pretty much short.
Exactly what I was going to say, this guy is just mad because he probably doesn't know how to use his rogue.

[Cero]

[QUOTE=Lojack:975202]Windmill is working as intended. All attacks have a chance to crit.[/QUOTE

As per Developer Feb 19th, it is "working as intended" so quit with these posts. PVP is balanced, if you're getting owned by one particualr class or person, to put it blunt, you're not good at PVP. Respec or regear or learn how to play. Warriors have windmill and HoR, Sorcerer have Sheild and stun/push and rogues have Aimed Shot, razor sheild and Nox bolt to multiply damage on all of those. So get better and work for it, quit expecting everyone to baby you and jump on your band wagon because it's old now. This iss has been addressed MULTIPLE times, and therefore irrelevant.

Requesting this thread be locked.

do you have an alt? or you have one but then joined "them" lol

[Jackyll]

damage increase is working correctly, and the right amount. Tapping is actually unecessary as windmill on its own ticks damage once cast so spare your fingers the bleeding! The outlier here seems to be the sword proc combined with everything else, which was nerfed a bit to compensate recently. Note that since windmill ticks off like 4 or 5 attacks per cast, each of those ticks has a chance to proc the sword, hence the overload of damage.

Is it working as designed? technically yes, but it's outside of a combination we anticipated. We will keep an eye on it, and if we feel it is out of control we can bring the damage down a bit to level it out. Not just yet though.


Another example of why this thread is uneccesary and fruitless. The devs are aware of the issue, and here is an explination of the dmg output. Stop whinning.

[Bless]

Windmill is working as intended. All attacks have a chance to crit.

As per Developer Feb 19th, it is "working as intended" so quit with these posts. PVP is balanced, if you're getting owned by one particualr class or person, to put it blunt, you're not good at PVP. Respec or regear or learn how to play. Warriors have windmill and HoR, Sorcerer have Sheild and stun/push and rogues have Aimed Shot, razor sheild and Nox bolt to multiply damage on all of those. So get better and work for it, quit expecting everyone to baby you and jump on your band wagon because it's old now. This iss has been addressed MULTIPLE times, and therefore irrelevant.

Requesting this thread be locked. I have to disagree. Classes are surely not balanced, play on a mage any level vs a warrior with both equipping top gear. Sure, in a 3v3 situation a mage wont be dead within the warriors first windmill, but meet the same warrior in a flag room and mark my words youll be destroyed.

Also, a lot of mages dont have shield and most twink rogues dont have razer shield but 90% OF ALL WARRIORS have both windmill and HOR combo.

Currently the classes are: Warrior > Rogue > Mage

Ps. The quote youve pulled up is not latest and february was over 2 weeks ago mate :)

[Jackyll]

I have to disagree. Classes are surely not balanced, play on a mage any level vs a warrior with both equipping top gear. Sure, in a 3v3 situation a mage wont be dead within the warriors first windmill, but meet the same warrior in a flag room and mark my words youll be destroyed.

Also, a lot of mages dont have shield and most twink rogues dont have razer shield but 90% OF ALL WARRIORS have both windmill and HOR combo.

Currently the classes are: Warrior > Rogue > Mage

Not true, if a GOOD mage fights in a 1vs1 scenario agianst a warrior it all comes down to timing, same a rogue. PVP is more than who has what skill and who has what gear. Timing plays a big role in pvp, i know if i fight a sorcerer heads up i HAVE to stun and windmill, in combination with ribbits arcane ability, BEFORE he can sheild and fireball. If at any point i get stunned and don't close the gap agianst, let me say this agian, a GOOD sorcerer then i'm done for.

Rogues are complicated to beat. If you have a Bow rogue, gotta get on them quick BUT, yet agian, a GOOD rogue can dodge my attacks by timing. Example: when i skyward on a bow rogue, a good one, they'll shadow peirce under me/through me fire nox and aimed (deadly combo) and i'm toast.

A daggers Rogue is another animal, i still need to skyward BUT this time i need to watch out for razor sheild and or veil. So when i skyward i immediatly have to charge HoR and dish out as much damage as possible to avoid rogues damage multipliers.

See its not just brawn or skills you have to use that lump 3 feet above you butt and think. So please, enough with the whinny "rogues are op, Sorcerers are op or Warriors are op" threads. Rub some dirt on it, stop crying and get better.

[hotpimp]

Notice how most noob warriors are against removing the windmill glitch?

[hotpimp]

Every class has a chance to crit? Ofc... The windmill goes from 300 980 1100 NO CRIT. The 300???

[Jackyll]

Notice how most noob warriors are against removing the windmill glitch?

Are you calling "Me" a noob warrior? I'd like to see who you call noob in a PvP match.

[Jackyll]

Every class has a chance to crit? Ofc... The windmill goes from 300 980 1100 NO CRIT. The 300???

So because it hit and crits harder and harder its glitched? A devleoper has stated multiple times, "its working fine" so quit crying because you can't hang in pvp. Sorry if you get killed a lot, learn how to PvP better. And maybe instead of calling people noobs on the forums just ask, like i did, "I'm getting owned in PvP, heres my toon, what do I need to do different."

So as stated above, stop crying, rub some dirt on it and get better.

[hotpimp]

U said u had a warrior with a -100 in another thread, my l16 warrior has a 17 kdr.

[hotpimp]

Do you often rub dirt on yourself? Go see a therapist. Also learn to read, i said "NO CRIT", you said "crits harder and harder?" gtfo my thread.

[hotpimp]

He said its working fine a month ago, Before people started exploiting it in PVP

[Jackyll]

U said u had a warrior with a -100 in another thread, my l16 warrior has a 17 kdr.

I did, I USED to have a negative K/D, I don't anymore. Because I cam on forums and asked for help instead of name calling and basically asking to get flammed.

So, agian, learn how to play, ask for help and GET BETTER stop being a child.

[hotpimp]

Kid, make a l16 rogue, i'd destroy you. Someone forgot to learn how to spell....

[Jackyll]

Do you often rub dirt on yourself? Go see a therapist. Also learn to read, i said "NO CRIT", you said "crits harder and harder?" gtfo my thread.

OMG i posted another comment from a DIFFERENT dev saying the same thing before that as well.

There is no glitch, stop crying.

[Jackyll]

Kid, make a l16 rogue, i'd destroy you. Someone forgot to learn how to spell....

I had a level 16 rogue, "kid" and i moved it's lvl up because with the proper gear AND KNOWLEDGE of PvP it was pretty easy. So if you're getting owned, no matter what level or class you are, don't come on here name calling and getting upset, and trying to point out stuipd things like a miss spelling. Just get better, maybe ask for help.

That'd be the best thing to do.

[hotpimp]

Jus gtfo... Im guessing ur kdr is lower then 2 and less then 5k?

[Jackyll]

Jus gtfo... Im guessing ur kdr is lower then 2 and less then 5k?

You can't tell me "gtfo" just because you've been proven wrong, and proven to be a cry baby. You can pm me in game, name is Jackyll, and i'll gladly give you lessons. Even if it means making another toon and showing you how to play, i'm ok with that. Because I like helping Noobish players who think they're talented when in fact they're not, much like yourself.

[hotpimp]

Uhhhhh, im one of the best level 16 twinks, 8k kills 1.1 deaths 500 caps. Iv been proven wrong? You just want them NOT to remove the glitch because you like exploiting from it.

[Jackyll]

Uhhhhh, im one of the best level 16 twinks, 8k kills 1.1 deaths 500 caps. Iv been proven wrong? You just want them NOT to remove the glitch because you like exploiting from it.

Thats GREAT!! Good for you buddy, now that you're so amazing at twink PvP, why would one classes ability to hit you multiple times make you so inferior to that particular class?

And since you feel the need to follow everyone of my comments on different threads i'll say it here too, Stay on this thread and stop following my comments around. Mmmmk pumpkin?

[hotpimp]

Pumpkin? Gay???? I hope you know a warrior with the glitch kills everyone in the team with one twirl... LITERALLY, a one hit kill.

[Jackyll]

Pumpkin? Gay???? I hope you know a warrior with the glitch kills everyone in the team with one twirl... LITERALLY, a one hit kill.

First, well second time, watch your language. Second there is no "glitch" see previous post above from developer staff. Third it can't LITERALLY be a one hit kill when it hits 5 times. Agian learn that if you're mobbing together, you make on big target. So what warrior wouldn't go into that and HoR then windmill? But i mean c'mon you're one of the best twink PvP's in the game, you already know that, right?

[hotpimp]

You called me pumpkin which is in fact, gay. And since you don't play lvl 16 pvp, plz stfu. It is a 1 hit kill.

[Jackyll]

You called me pumpkin which is in fact, gay. And since you don't play lvl 16 pvp, plz stfu. It is a 1 hit kill.

My gosh, at this point i'm done talking to you. I've proven my point mutliple times and proved how you're whinning for the windmill to be nerfed is fruitless. You're immaturity and lack of PvP ability are well below me and continuing the conversation with someone as you is pointless. I hope you get better at PvP one day, or at least grow a little in maturity to have a conversation/debate with someone without having to try to resort to childish antics for attention.

[Deadbite]

I don't understand if you're trying to get your point across or just want to argue, please get off my thread.

I believe its called troll. lol, you win congratulations. :emmersed:
And trolling is against the ToS. Gf!

[Deadbite]

But Pvp is Unballenced... Who cares about the rogues and warriors??? Mages are worthless (no offense to those who manage) THEY NEED A BUFF!

[Delphina]

Time to close of this thread.