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Formora
10-01-2010, 06:47 AM
How good are they compared to tanks?

Mala
10-01-2010, 06:49 AM
Not good at all IMO...

Only benefit I could think of is one with a wand that has a nightmare proc and then using hellscream to combo.

KingFu
10-01-2010, 06:55 AM
Actually, Int bears are pretty good. They can set up their own combos, high mana, and with the right build it'll be pretty solid. It isn't exactly a pvp class, but it's pretty nice in pve especially with a ra staff. They are fun to play as well. I would say they are, IMO, the best int spec/class. I personally don't like pure mages since they're so fragile, and int birds aren't much compared to a pure dex bird. I enjoy playing my int bear. They stay alive fairly well.


As for comparing them to tanks, they won't have the durability, but they will be ranged, also, like I said, they can set up their own combos. I don't think you can compare anything to a tank due to their toughness and durability, but int bears are a fun class, and with a djinn wand or dark matter, they're pretty good. :)

Formora
10-01-2010, 09:55 AM
Thanks for the replies. I'm going to create one soon, just wondering, does the new stat driven skill conversion make int bears weaker? And, do I add all int? A skill guide would be nice too :)

Esus
10-01-2010, 02:32 PM
Depending on what gear your going to equip, 142 int, only as much dex that gets u to 100% hit, rest in str.
Or you could always go with 138 int, equiped with either a Thoth hat or bracer (both items only need 138 int to equip and any Thoth item will add 8int, giving you a total of 146int and leaving you with 4 points to spend in str or dex), only enogh dex for 100% hit and rest in str.
As for skills, max all ur self buffs (ironblood, rage, evade), max hellscream, max crushingblow for debuff, and max any 2 slashes, you can either max stomp and have 4 in bekon, or vice versa, it's your call. Best gear setup IMO is one Thoth hat, djinn wand of Isis (nightmare proc) Isis eye bracer and Isis robe.

TwinkTastical
10-01-2010, 07:29 PM
I cant play PL without one, ill post you a lv 19 soon as i take screenie :)

Raxie
10-02-2010, 12:01 AM
for level 45 or for a lower level? for pvp or pve?
for 45, int bears aren't that great for both pvp and pve. however, for lower levels like 19 they are fantastic. they are also considered the best for level 19 pvp.

vulgarstrike
10-02-2010, 12:09 AM
for 45, and int bear with apep sun killer is amazing in pve.
pull mob, use debuffs, use xrippling slash, do gigantic aoe damage to nearly 10 different djinns at once, stomp
rinse and repeat.

Raxie
10-02-2010, 01:21 AM
ah yes, i forgot about aoe staffs. in pve, any bear with an aoe staff just rips through enemies.

TwinkTastical
10-02-2010, 04:59 AM
http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab330/instinctiveko/b26bcf17.jpg

TheLaw
10-02-2010, 09:16 AM
Mala, would you like to make a pure dex and challenge me in PvP? IMO, IntBear and Warriors and perfect tankers, kits still, up to you to decide :)

Xviperr
10-02-2010, 05:09 PM
If taken into consideration that the mobs would be pack, then yes int bear rocksocks with aoe staffs as their slashes would deal to all the mobs? Correct me if I'm wrong

But alittle neither here nor there feeling is that bear skills are perfect for close combat while being int reckons more of a range feeling

TheLaw
10-03-2010, 01:02 AM
Viper, help me power my noob paladin pls?

Xviperr
10-03-2010, 01:43 AM
Viper, help me power my noob paladin pls?

add Popciclex

Jsaieagle
10-10-2010, 07:46 AM
I am not sure about pvp but I think int bear grows as the new 50lvl pinks!!

Look at the regen, you have no mp regen but around 160-170 armor if you are in full set of rifts.
In full set of cosmos, you will have 12h/s and 32h/s but only around 110-120 armor, and if you use one iris eye, you got 15h/s and 24m/s..

I don't know, tanks now are much more ridiculous, high damages and terrible armors....................

Jsaieagle
10-11-2010, 01:06 AM
I tried pvp with a tank and a bird with talons... the result is.... INT bear is not that bad!!! :D

I will try pvp with INT mages, pally.... update you guys later... ;)

Dr.R
10-11-2010, 07:45 AM
intbears can solo lvl up, use a staff of ra or apep staff, then use beckon.
=] fast lvl up

Jsaieagle
10-11-2010, 08:08 AM
Hey Dr. R, is int bird good?

TheLaw
10-11-2010, 08:11 AM
Its good as long as you know how to use it :) But I will advice you to stick to Pure DEX.

Dr.R
10-11-2010, 08:12 AM
Hey Dr. R, is int bird good?

it's not bad, thou it kinda sux, its armor is low but the skills matches mage needs =]
i mean what difference is it to mage and int? bows and staffs? talons to wand? =]

Jsaieagle
10-11-2010, 08:23 AM
LoL, I built my int bear too... may be all the ints are the same except different spells.