Can we maka a survey about Glacian

[TheStoic]

If Glacian was offered to you as plat-exclusive pet at 800 platinum, will you purchase it?

Glacian = 800 plat

Yes or No


YES = 6

NO = 7


P.S. Try not to make the experience of plat players cloud your decision, just assume you haven't spent plat opening crates.

[TheStoic]

I'll make the first vote, NO.

Since the arrival of Ripmaw, purchasing 250 plat is too much. We are talking about real money here.

[Jackyll]

1 = YES

Given how much platinum it takes opening chests to obtain Hammerjaw and or Glacian, I'd pay 1000 plat.

[Greencrow]

NO.

[DocDoBig]

NO , 800 plat is a "bit" overpriced.
I'd rather spend it in 50 crates and have some plat left.
Even Mitas the most expensive Pet in PL cost (only) 500 plat (if lucky) :D

[TheStoic]

NO , 800 plat is a "bit" overpriced.
I'd rather spend it in 50 crates and have some plat left.
Even Mitas the most expensive Pet in PL cost (only) 500 plat (if lucky) :D

I'm just curious about Mitas, I haven't played PL, you said lucky, what does it mean? opening crates also?

[DocDoBig]

I'm just curious about Mitas, I haven't played PL, you said lucky, what does it mean? opening crates also?

Yeah what Luvaria said above. There are 3 Dragons which you can buy regulary for plat (200) and a Pack of 3 Dragons for 500 plat ,
in that pack you have a chance on Mitas Dragon , so He's ONLY available in this pack and so has practical a gamble effect aswell. LOL

[KillaSkillz]

I would take a plat sale of those pets over the random chance even if it was 800 or 1000 plat to buy them, it doesn't mean I would buy them at that price, but I hate the random chance marketing strategy a whole lot.

[Cero]

If Glacian was offered to you as plat-exclusive pet at 800 platinum, will you purchase it?

Glacian = 800 plat

Yes or No


YES = 1

NO = 4


P.S. Try not to make the experience of plat players cloud your decision, just assume you haven't spent plat opening crates.

YESS,
buying for an amount that surely gives is better than chances/gamble.
like the ripmaw, at first no one buys or afraid to buy it but eventualy ic many people use it for pvp.

for those who said NO, does.that mean you like how to get an Arcane pet?800plat is nothing compare to 40k plat(atleast) for opening and gets nothing.

[DocDoBig]

YESS,
buying for an amount that surely gives is better than chances/gamble.
like the ripmaw, at first no one buys or afraid to buy it but eventualy ic many people use it for pvp.

for those who said NO, does.that mean you like how to get an Arcane pet?800plat is nothing compare to 40k plat(atleast) for opening and gets nothing.

A set price would make it less rare and so: less special

[Seiyen]

YES.

[Theholyangel]

I'd say so-so. If your lucky, you get it soon. If your unlucky like most individuals, you can go through all the plat in the world and never recieve the item you long for.

[Wowsome]

no.

[jk9810]

YOLO. So why not?

[Limsi]

To be honest, I'd say no. Let's exclude the fact that some people gambled heaps of platinum just to get a shot of Hammerjaw, BlackBeard's Nefarious Hooks, and Glacian.

I remember when Hammerjaw first came out and people were complaining about not getting the pet despite of having to spend 1k plus worth of platinum. Various of posts were made regarding this issue: hate posts, petitions to make the egg drop more, and rewards to those who spent a good deal amount of platinum. Then time came wherein Hammerjaw was pretty much common around the game, almost a handful had the pet and some owners of the pet argued that the drop rate should be lowered. The reason? Exclusivity of the egg was at stake.

If STS would value these arcane pets (present and upcoming pets) to a certain amount, players would pretty much grab the deal and get their hands on arguably the best type of rarity of these pets. Then time will come wherein people would be running around kraag with these bunch of babies and complain as to why there seems to be many of other players who have the same pet as theirs.

Read Sam's post regarding the issue of Hammerjaw during the time when some players were displeased on the gambling system of opening crates:


I totally understand where you are coming from. There was a time when I really wanted a Spectral Tiger for my WoW character (several years ago). The only way you could get it was as a rare card included in the WoW trading card game packs. I didn't even play the WoW trading card game, but man my undead priest would look _sweet_ on one, ya know? A friend convinced me that I'd be sure to get one if I went in with him and bought $100 of cards with him ($200 total). So, off I went to the game store and dropped the $100. After much opening of packs, I was not rewarded with a Spectral Tiger

Collectible Cards Games have rare chase items as pretty standard practice. I guess Baseball cards coined it first, but really, Hammerjaw is the same thing. We hope you get some value out of everything else you get out of the Crates - the armor has unique looks, the stats on the Rifle, Sword 'n Shield and Bow are the best you can get of those items, for example.

IMHO, I really do agree that not all can be entitled with the best things in life, there will always be this one lucky guy who gets the best during his first attempt, and another guy who gets nothing despite spending and putting too much at stake.


A set price would make it less rare and so: less special

True enough!

[ahiung27]

no

me bought 89 usd plat and no got anything

cry

[Darko]

Yes I would, it would still be rare as you can see from this post not everyobe would buy it..id even up it to 1000...higher price less people will have it, attach an achievment to it so hardcore players buy it...im one of those types, no prixe is to high for me...I just want to make sure I get what I pay for...crates don't get wgat u pay for...items are so liquidated ....and not valuable, and have broke the economy of al

[Zuzeq]

I'd have to "think" about it if it was 300Plat. So...no.

[TheStoic]

Limsyoker and Docdocbig are talking about the "intangible" aspect of having a Glacian, the higher the rarity, the more special it becomes. That sense of felling that you stand out among your peers. This is what drives people to open crates.

Another aspect, that we also like to look at is, if Glacian proves to be very useful, say on pvp, and giving it a specific price tag, would mean that definitely you'll get the chance to acquire the pet at a later time that will give you an edge at pvp. If I have excess plat, and I'm serious on playing pvp, I would definitely save money to buy plat, then buy Glacian.

[uzidredar]

Yes

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[AmongDemons]

No.
It's a virtual character model that took a day maximum to design and integrate that you are willing to spend ~$80 for?Lol. I know at least two of my guild mates who have spent over $900 dollars rolling for Ripmaw and recieved nothing. At the end of the day you get a character model that has less than desirable stats that will be replaced and obsolete after they decide to make something else that "looks cool" and gives you a oh-so desired acheivment point. If it increased your gold drop rates by 500% every kill, maybe worth it. I'd buy it if it brushed my teeth and read me a story before it tucked me into bed. Note that this is coming from a person who has played and bought plat since the first days of PL, SL, DL and now AL. I will admit it would be better than dropping $1.5k+ on futile gamble rolls, but still lolz no. STS will release another game to replacd AL in like two months which will render AL another DL. Just my $0.02

[Limsi]

Limsyoker and Docdocbig are talking about the "intangible" aspect of having a Glacian, the higher the rarity, the more special it becomes. That sense of felling that you stand out among your peers. This is what drives people to open crates.

Another aspect, that we also like to look at is, if Glacian proves to be very useful, say on pvp, and giving it a specific price tag, would mean that definitely you'll get the chance to acquire the pet at a later time that will give you an edge at pvp. If I have excess plat, and I'm serious on playing pvp, I would definitely save money to buy plat, then buy Glacian.

I do see the second point as something reasonable for someone with excess plat to do. I guess the best solution for this matter is to make the best pets/items dropable by bosses. The drop rate should be relatively low and that it should not be in crates nor chests. I do remember somewhere here in the forums stating that items bought through platinum should generally be slightly weaker than those found in game (dropped or looted from chests). The perfect example would be the armors from the bundle pack against the elite items. The reason for this is to give equal chance to all players - platinum buyers and those not.

Now this may be a big blow to STS revenue, as it would hurt plat sales. What I have in mind is to make "gems" possible. These gems would serve as upgrades to pets, but with no guarantee of success. They could either be bought through plat store for let's say 5-10 plat and dropped by bosses at an exceedingly rare rate, same rate with the pets. Those who want to blow money could purchase them through store, and those who refuse to do so would just have to farm for em.

[ctf]

nope

[Lady_Pebbles]

Smh. This game is way too plat based.

[Aracnus]

You all should leave your plat spending to another game.. Try PL or AL for pets, it's an automatic buy, not a chance at something.. This is STS' way of getting every last penny they can out of you!

[Samhayne]

We will be announcing a new Fire Elemental pet that will be replacing Ripmaw as a plat based pet. Glacian, as with Hammerjaw, is designed and intended as an ultra rare pet. That isn't really going to change.

Previously, we'd have people complain that there wasn't anything really "rare" or wax nostalgic for ultra rare items in other games. Now that we actually have ultra rares, the flip side comes out - they're too hard to get, I want one, but can't get it. That's just how it is. We get that and understand your feelings about them - but again, that doesn't mean that they will change.

[Lady_Pebbles]

Will the Fire Pet -at least- be an Arcane item as well so players can finally get that achievement with a set plat cost of 250? I really have no desire to gamble crates for an achievement. Especially when its hard enough as it is to make gold in this game.

EDIT: We already have Mythics that drop in crates and the first Mythic was Ripmaw sold for plat only. Might as well have an Arcane pet sold for plat only as well. Whats the difference? Yall will still get your money and players get exactly what they pay for (this time) instead of gambling for it.

[octavos]

We will be announcing a new Fire Elemental pet that will be replacing Ripmaw as a plat based pet. Glacian, as with Hammerjaw, is designed and intended as an ultra rare pet. That isn't really going to change.

Previously, we'd have people complain that there wasn't anything really "rare" or wax nostalgic for ultra rare items in other games. Now that we actually have ultra rares, the flip side comes out - they're too hard to get, I want one, but can't get it. That's just how it is. We get that and understand your feelings about them - but again, that doesn't mean that they will change.

yes hard drops in the game, meaning like SL vanities or dragon vanities in PL...I believe thats the hard people are talking about...not really from locked crates. yes nice to have sweet stuff from crates, but the hunt is 10x better if your able to obtain them from the world drops.

[Zuzeq]

We will be announcing a new Fire Elemental pet that will be replacing Ripmaw as a plat based pet. Glacian, as with Hammerjaw, is designed and intended as an ultra rare pet. That isn't really going to change.

Previously, we'd have people complain that there wasn't anything really "rare" or wax nostalgic for ultra rare items in other games. Now that we actually have ultra rares, the flip side comes out - they're too hard to get, I want one, but can't get it. That's just how it is. We get that and understand your feelings about them - but again, that doesn't mean that they will change.




Make that pet +20 Dex or up and +15 Int or up/ +15 Str or up and it's already sold:).

[Lady_Pebbles]

yes hard drops in the game, meaning like SL vanities or dragon vanities in PL...I believe thats the hard people are talking about...not really from locked crates. yes nice to have sweet stuff from crates, but the hunt is 10x better if your able to obtain them from the world drops.
Well said and I completely agree. Its one thing when there are items we can get for free but have to work hard for them to get them... Vs having to pay a lot of money at a -chance- to get them without any guarantee we will eventually loot them.

[Mrsberry]

We will be announcing a new Fire Elemental pet that will be replacing Ripmaw as a plat based pet. Glacian, as with Hammerjaw, is designed and intended as an ultra rare pet. That isn't really going to change.

Previously, we'd have people complain that there wasn't anything really "rare" or wax nostalgic for ultra rare items in other games. Now that we actually have ultra rares, the flip side comes out - they're too hard to get, I want one, but can't get it. That's just how it is. We get that and understand your feelings about them - but again, that doesn't mean that they will change.

We need a thumbs down button to go along with the thumbs up.

[Uzii]

We will be announcing a new Fire Elemental pet that will be replacing Ripmaw as a plat based pet. Glacian, as with Hammerjaw, is designed and intended as an ultra rare pet. That isn't really going to change.

Previously, we'd have people complain that there wasn't anything really "rare" or wax nostalgic for ultra rare items in other games. Now that we actually have ultra rares, the flip side comes out - they're too hard to get, I want one, but can't get it. That's just how it is. We get that and understand your feelings about them - but again, that doesn't mean that they will change.

Yep but ppl thought it will be dropable and not from plat-to-open crates

[kingoburgo]

We need a thumbs down button to go along with the thumbs up.

that's what I miss so often..

[FluffNStuff]

yes hard drops in the game, meaning like SL vanities or dragon vanities in PL...I believe thats the hard people are talking about...not really from locked crates. yes nice to have sweet stuff from crates, but the hunt is 10x better if your able to obtain them from the world drops.

And how rare are dragon vanities? I ~personally~ disdain the idea of paying plat to open a locked crate and will not do it, but I understand where Sam is coming from. Due to the large number of players, the amount of time they spend, and the need to at least have ~some~ drop, it is virtually impossible to have something really rare where the only thing limiting it is luck and the amount of times you farm a boss. If it was that rare, it would likely never show up. There needs to be something else that affects the drop rate.

[Lady_Pebbles]

yes hard drops in the game, meaning like SL vanities or dragon vanities in PL...I believe thats the hard people are talking about...not really from locked crates. yes nice to have sweet stuff from crates, but the hunt is 10x better if your able to obtain them from the world drops.

And how rare are dragon vanities? I ~personally~ disdain the idea of paying plat to open a locked crate and will not do it, but I understand where Sam is coming from. Due to the large number of players, the amount of time they spend, and the need to at least have ~some~ drop, it is virtually impossible to have something really rare where the only thing limiting it is luck and the amount of times you farm a boss. If it was that rare, it would likely never show up. There needs to be something else that affects the drop rate.
Try looting a Kriegberg Stone in DL when capped (2% drop rate as said on the description*.). Or one of the Relic weapons (slightly less rare than Kstone but still hella rare). Same thing only difference is they are droppable and not chance drop items. The gamble packs in DL are for plat weapons yet some of the best weapons in DL aren't bought with plat. As are the gems, plat gems there suck where as the regular droppable gems are the best to have in game. Making them gold sinks while having good optional plat gear. Even elite vanities (Gamer Set, etc.) are droppable and even thouh they aren't easy to drop (quite the opposite) the amount of gold able to be farmed over time makes it possible to get the items in a resonable amount of time.

AL needs better gold drops so we can also have this option. We need gold to be circulated and not hoarded. We have gold sinks like Pet Feeding and expensive pots, now all we need is some more gold circulating by upping the gold granted on maps. Too many plat sinks, buying gold with plat or using Trialplay/W3i for gold is way too costly. Hell the gold cap in game being raised doesn't help at all. Its ridiculous and makes prices go up higher. Who the hell is gonna buy expensive stuff like that if they can't gain enough gold to buy them with? Makes no sense.

[kingoburgo]

We need droppable Arcane and Mythic pets. Let it be 10x more rare than mali and drop from Elite Skull Cove

[Lady_Pebbles]

We need droppable Arcane and Mythic pets. Let it be 10x more rare than mali and drop from Elite Skull Cove
That would be great but fact is, they make too much money off of these pets so they probably won't do that. Even* though players will still buy luck elixirs or try to stack luck elixirs for the drops.. So technicly they'll make money either way.

[FluffNStuff]

Try looting a Kriegberg Stone in DL when capped (2% drop rate as said on the descriptio.). Or one of the Relic weapons (slightly less rare than Kstone but still hella rare). Same thing only difference is they are droppable and not chance drop items. The gamble packs in DL are for plat weapons yet some of the best weapons in DL aren't bought with plat. As are the gems, plat gems there suck where as the regular droppable gems are the best to have in game. Making them gold sinks while having good optional plat gear. Even elite vanities (Gamer Set, etc.) are droppable and even thouh they aren't easy to drop (quite the opposite) the amount of gold able to be farmed over time makes it possible to get the items in a resonable amount of time.

AL needs better gold drops so we can also have this option. We need gold to be circulated and not hoarded. We have gold sinks like Pet Feeding and expensive pots, now all we need is some more gold circulating by upping the gold granted on maps. Too many plat sinks, buying gold with plat or using Trialplay/W3i for gold is way too costly. Hell the gold cap in game being raised doesn't help at all. Its ridiculous and makes prices go up higher. Who the hell is gonna buy expensive stuff like that if they can't gain enough gold to buy them with? Makes no sense.



This is gonna sound a little rude, but the simple truth is that DL does not have the issue of large numbers that PL and AL have. If you applied a 2% drop rate to a Mythic Item in AL, the CS would be FLOODED with them by morning. That I can guarantee. When dealing with such a high number of 'attempts', it gets extremely tricky to balance[ market flood / uber rare / doesn't exist ] since micro fluctuations in the drop percentage get magnified so quickly.

[Lady_Pebbles]

This is gonna sound a little rude, but the simple truth is that DL does not have the issue of large numbers that PL and AL have. If you applied a 2% drop rate to a Mythic Item in AL, the CS would be FLOODED with them by morning. That I can guarantee. When dealing with such a high number of 'attempts', it gets extremely tricky to balance[ market flood / uber rare / doesn't exist ] since micro fluctuations in the drop percentage get magnified so quickly.


Its not rude lol. You kinda missed the point. Still you can see it in terms of SL as well. Same with Squid Buddy and Xrays. Hella hard to get as a drop but still enough credits (gold) drops on maps that can be farmed and in a reasonable time, you can get those items through the ah. There is no sense in having high cost items on AL when hardly any gold drops to begin with.

Especially when the gold cap is ridiculously high too.. Absolutely no sense lol.

[octavos]

And how rare are dragon vanities? well, I thought id use examples since I do not know how rare they really are. I'm just thinking of when they first came out.


I ~personally~ disdain the idea of paying plat to open a locked crate and will not do it, but I understand where Sam is coming from. I do too, but I will never open a box...only 3 boxes ive ever opened..one happened to be VIP.


Due to the large number of players, the amount of time they spend, and the need to at least have ~some~ drop, it is virtually impossible to have something really rare where the only thing limiting it is luck and the amount of times you farm a boss. If it was that rare, it would likely never show up. There needs to be something else that affects the drop rate.

Rare is how much money you have to open those boxes, since some items require you to open them for the achievement. I stick to my original statement.

[FluffNStuff]

Its not rude lol. You kinda missed the point. Still you can see it in terms of SL as well. Same with Squid Buddy and Xrays. Hella hard to get as a drop but still enough credits (gold) drops on maps that can be farmed and in a reasonable time, you can get those items through the ah. There is no sense in having high cost items on AL when hardly any gold drops to begin with.

Especially when the gold cap is ridiculously high too.. Absolutely no sense lol.



Specifically talking uber rare, if those items were in AL, again do to the large numbers, they would be over farmed in short amount of time. This would again flood the CS with them dropping their value really quick. The point is that they would not be 'uber rare' for more then a couple days, maybe a week tops if they had an extremely low drop rate.

As for the gold issue, which I think is a separate one, it is really odd. I will have to think about it some more.

[Lady_Pebbles]

Specifically talking uber rare, if those items were in AL, again do to the large numbers, they would be over farmed in short amount of time. This would again flood the CS with them dropping their value really quick. The point is that they would not be 'uber rare' for more then a couple days, maybe a week tops if they had an extremely low drop rate.

As for the gold issue, which I think is a separate one, it is really odd. I will have to think about it some more.


Idk Fluff, I really doubt they would flood the AH like that unless they make it so that luck elixirs can stack, then there would be an issue. Other than that, I don't see why this would become a problem. It'll have the same drop rate as in crates or maybe even a lower drop rate. Still, players want to be able to get these as a drop without burning a hole in their pockets.

[Zanpakuto]

definately yes!

[Energizeric]

We will be announcing a new Fire Elemental pet that will be replacing Ripmaw as a plat based pet. Glacian, as with Hammerjaw, is designed and intended as an ultra rare pet. That isn't really going to change.

Previously, we'd have people complain that there wasn't anything really "rare" or wax nostalgic for ultra rare items in other games. Now that we actually have ultra rares, the flip side comes out - they're too hard to get, I want one, but can't get it. That's just how it is. We get that and understand your feelings about them - but again, that doesn't mean that they will change.

All I gotta say is THANK YOU!! People can't have everything they want all the time. But we can have a goal of getting it one day, and that's the part that I like. There will always be something more to work for.

Glacian is going for 30m? Oh well, I better start saving! :)

[Uzii]

All I gotta say is THANK YOU!! People can't have everything they want all the time. But we can have a goal of getting it one day, and that's the part that I like. There will always be something more to work for.

Glacian is going for 30m? Oh well, I better start saving! :)

Well no one disagree on rarity just that hell lot of crates need to be open to get that pets so U can buy them from cs.

That was everyones idea in begginig if i remeber.

I would like to see really some dropable uber rarity pets to conquer crate ones. (probably will never happen, but hope dies last :) )

[Mysticaleagle]

We will be announcing a new Fire Elemental pet that will be replacing Ripmaw as a plat based pet. Glacian, as with Hammerjaw, is designed and intended as an ultra rare pet. That isn't really going to change.

Previously, we'd have people complain that there wasn't anything really "rare" or wax nostalgic for ultra rare items in other games. Now that we actually have ultra rares, the flip side comes out - they're too hard to get, I want one, but can't get it. That's just how it is. We get that and understand your feelings about them - but again, that doesn't mean that they will change.

People asked for ultra rare items to farm, like Octavos said.
Not ultra real money eating items, like the locked crates said.

[Y O L O]

YOLO. So why not?

yes ik my name is known wordwide and my name is quite famous

[Energizeric]

Well no one disagree on rarity just that hell lot of crates need to be open to get that pets so U can buy them from cs.

That was everyones idea in begginig if i remeber.

I would like to see really some dropable uber rarity pets to conquer crate ones. (probably will never happen, but hope dies last :) )

I'm not opposed to that as long as they keep it super rare. I don't want to ever see more than a couple available for sale in the auction. Any more than that and it means it's too common.

[Uzii]

I'm not opposed to that as long as they keep it super rare. I don't want to ever see more than a couple available for sale in the auction. Any more than that and it means it's too common.

Im not opposed to that eather

[inkredible]

yeah, its better than people selling it for 10m

[Bejo]

No. that will be "common" and not special if like that.

[TheStoic]

Since this thread created so many differing opinions, let me create a synopsis of the camps that voiced their opinions.

YES: Probably would love to buy at a flat rate of 800 plat to avoid the element of luck when opening crates, and some of these people are choosing this one because they've read the bad luck some players have, since the arrival of Hammerjaw, opening thousands of crates but still no jackpot.

NO: I think this camp can be subdivided into two, but in general this camp would love to have that "intangible" value of owning an Arcane Pet, not commonly owned by other players. So the feeling of being different among your peers, drives people to get this pet by shelling out money.

Crates: These are people who have the spare plats (probably from the doing offers and have some spare money in real life) and would love to take a shot at opening crates. We all know that crates contains several jackpots, not just Glacian, that would yield a multi-million gold inflow.

Drop: I for one agree with this, by giving non-plat players a shot at owning an Arcane Pet. We'll we do have a chance to buy it in gold, some of you will say, but it will takes several expansions before that happens. It doesnt mean however, that since its droppable, it will become too common and it will lose is arcaness. Keep the drop rate as it is, or even lower when it becomes a drop. At least, non-plat players will get the chance of owning this.

I'm sure STS are considering these opinions in their future plans, and we'll see what will happen.

P.S. If you have anything to add, please feel free to do so, otherwise, Dev, please close this survey.

[Lady_Pebbles]

I would like to add that if they add it as a drop, players can (and probably will) use plat to buy elixirs and hope that it will reroll into a Mythic or Arcane drop. The difference between that and crates is the fact that it only costs at minimum 2plat for loot reroll elixirs vs 15 plat per crate. Making it more affordable for players who still want to use plat.

The best part about it is that no one is forced to pay anything for these items when they want them.

[TheStoic]

I would like to add that if they add it as a drop, players can (and probably will) use plat to buy elixirs and hope that it will reroll into a Mythic or Arcane drop. The difference between that and crates is the fact that it only costs at minimum 2plat for loot reroll elixirs vs 15 plat per crate. Making it more affordable for players who still want to use plat.

The best part about it is that no one is forced to pay anything for these items when they want them.



By force, i think you mean, gamble. In my opinion, spending the 2 plat loot elix is a gamble in itself by hoping for a chance to get it. But comparing the 2 plat against the 15 plat is a no-contest. But one of the basic investment principles is "The higher the reward, the greater the risk", by opening crates (risk), you might get the glacian (reward).

[Redtank]

To get back on topic, NO

[Limsi]

If they make arcane pets droppable, just make sure the drop rate is of the same chance with opening crates. Nuff said.

[Mysticaleagle]

Nuff said.

Lol.

[Lady_Pebbles]

If they make arcane pets droppable, just make sure the drop rate is of the same chance with opening crates. Nuff said.
I second this motion then. XP

[McBain]

yes hard drops in the game, meaning like SL vanities or dragon vanities in PL...I believe thats the hard people are talking about...not really from locked crates. yes nice to have sweet stuff from crates, but the hunt is 10x better if your able to obtain them from the world drops.

I couldn't have said it better. Ultra-rare doesn't equal "spend a small fortune of platinum" in my opinion. I think that's where the disconnect is. I have no problem with STS selling some ridiculously expensive plat items because it's a business and there will always be people that buy them, but it's rare and hard-to-farm drops that we're talking about. Stuff bought with plat (including stuff you get from locked crates) doesn't really count.

[KillaSkillz]

Specifically talking uber rare, if those items were in AL, again do to the large numbers, they would be over farmed in short amount of time. This would again flood the CS with them dropping their value really quick. The point is that they would not be 'uber rare' for more then a couple days, maybe a week tops if they had an extremely low drop rate.

As for the gold issue, which I think is a separate one, it is really odd. I will have to think about it some more.

SL at one point was popular, and xrays and sqidbuddy have only gone up. For one, the chance of a drop is unaffected by a reroll lix. For another, you have to get a specific roll number that takes you to that loot table on the specific maps that have the opportunity, and then it could roll xray, squidbuddy or mechanical man ( mechanical man helmet being the most common to happen when you get that far). You can't really farm those vanities is SL, either you get lucky and get the correct roll, or they don't come out. Now I can't guess the amount of players at SL's prime vs. AL's prime (yes, AL will also drop off in players making these uber rare items even rarer when the next new game comes out) but, besides the pets, the armor helm and weapons have a lifespan, where they just won't be desirable to a capped toon because there will be stronger. Then those values are going to crash out hard. Heck, I saw galaxian in the auction today for 29mil (i can't even afford the listing fee! Lol)
but thats a pet that will be useful for the life of the game if someone opens it, and it should retain its value as an egg.

As for the gold issue, seems there is enough out there if you get the lucky item drop and sell it, there is plenty of gold out there, just not plenty if you are collecting gold from running maps. Definetly more gold coming off the maps in AL than in SL, but we don't have pets to feed in SL. I dunno the gold thing is pretty complicated and screwed up in AL....

[Francois Encio]

Ill buy it for 300 plat

[Xeriuss]

800 plat?

Dude.....

2 answer ur question: HELL NO!

[TheStoic]

Dude.....



Man, necro...

[chitgoks]

even if theyll price it at 1k plat im sure there will be players who will buy it.

but there will be many who didnt get it from opening crates who will be mad hehehe

hmm 600 plats? or 500 could be a logical price

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[darthdlo]

after what happened to the dragon vanities i don't see many people, that knows what happened, spending real money on something that isn't set in stone. I really don't see the crates lasting the whole life span of game which if so meas all that plat was wasted because i can almost guarantee something major will change somewhere down the line. I have played since 11/12/12 and have 3 capped toons since 16 and have nothing special i farmed like i didn't pl. I have spent plat in this game but i just don't have anything to b proud of, everything i have anyone can have. I cant keep putting time and effort into something that is giving nothing in return.