What...is this shield?

[Caiahar]

Sorry if I keep asking noob questions, but what is this shield Apollo is holding?

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[Spyce]

Similar to Shield of Gratitude.

[tHelonestud]

Similar to Shield of Gratitude.

Not really sure where you got that information, but it has nothing to do with the shield of gratitude. Do people just think they sound smart randomly mentioning old items?

It is the hardlight shield: an item rewarded to a player for reserving that character's name for Star Legends, which costed 50 platinum.
If you play Star Legends, you would recognize it, because it is an actual shield in that game actually several different shields with the same design.

[wammm]

Sooooo... no rewards on ppl who reserved on AL ?? :0

[TheSnowman]

Sooooo... no rewards on ppl who reserved on AL ?? :0

The name reservations were bought separately from the vanity shield for AL, which is still in the store for some reason.

[Bless]

Its sl shield, if u resrved name.

[wammm]

Sooooo... no rewards on ppl who reserved on AL ?? :0

The name reservations were bought separately from the vanity shield for AL, which is still in the store for some reason.

But the hardlight was bought seperately as well? Or no?

[Zeus]

But the hardlight was bought seperately as well? Or no?

No, it was used as a placeholder so devs could tell if you reserved name or not.

[Suentous PO]

I had finally stopped kicking myself for not reserving my name couple weeks ago.
Thanks for the reminder.
*kick *
*kick *
*stubbs toe on spiderman underoos*
*kick*

[Jespo]

The name reservations were bought separately from the vanity shield for AL, which is still in the store for some reason.

munny

[dudetus]

Hasn't it been DoD later?

Well, I will give u details about different shield vanities to prevent these threads.U already know the Crimson Holoshield as it was in another thread.

Shield with a skull in it - PvP reward shield from certain PvP tournaments.
Shield with a crown - Red is GoA shield and blue is Angelic set shield. GoA was awarded to rly good ppl on forums and Angelic set was for those eho had spent 50 dollars or more to PL OR had reached lvl 66 cap as Humania went live.

[tHelonestud]

Hasn't it been DoD later?

Well, I will give u details about different shield vanities to prevent these threads.U already know the Crimson Holoshield as it was in another thread.

Silver Shield with a skull in it - PvP reward shield from certain PvP tournaments.
Orange Shield with a skull in it -DotD during 2011 Halloween event.
Shield with a crown - Red is GoA shield and blue is Angelic set shield. GoA was awarded to rly good ppl on forums and Angelic set was for those who had spent 50 dollars or more to PL OR had reached lvl 66 cap as Humania went live.
Hardlight was never DotD; the red version crimson holoshield was

[razerfingers]

Sent using blood on a bathroom wall.

[OverkillED]

The hardlight shield (blue) is from reserving your name prior to the release of SL. The crismon holoshield (red) was a DotD that I missed. :(

[Whirlzap]

Check out Legendary Yanis' guide to Vanities and Nick's extension.
(There's a reason why we always the name Yanis has a connotation of legendary, epic, unparalleled or why we always identify him as being "a legend".
The sheer amount of work accomplished by Yanis at his time was truly considered unparalleled and as of today, no such accomplishment of equal magnitude has been achieved, nor will it ever be likely achieved in the future, possibly due to the the fact that the complete categorization of not only one campaign's pinks but of all the campaigns' pinks is the only achievement on that calibur.
Oh, and there's the much more common reason as to why we use "Legendary" Yanis: Yanis documented pinks, and pinks were and probably are still referred to with the item rarity of "Legendary".)
Those two lists were updated until Fang cap I believe.
After that is when STS went crazy and started releasing Plat/Normal Vanities like crazy, and where it was just a waste of effort to document them all.

"Legendary" Yanis' list of Vanities: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?32551-Vanity-Items-with-Pictures
Nick's Updated List: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?51857-Vanity-Items-with-Pictures



You guys forgot one other shield; the PL "Shield of Legends" or something.
Essentially, it was the same as the Kite Shield, but with a huge PL on it.
This marked the summit of all achievements, the zenith of a PL player, the legendary shield that was only attainable by personally being commended and granted it as an award by the Developers. (or by winning first place in a contest, but the true signifance of this vanity item resides in the first manner of achieving it D= )
I believe in the history of PL, only under ten players have ever acquired such an item, either through their immense
It is unarguably an honor that parallels or more likely, surpasses that of a GoA; to be a GoA, you must show immense dedication to community, assistance to others, and devotion to the game, but to be even considered for a PL shield, you must show all this and beyond.
Seeing that the GoA program has been terminated and that the last PL shield award was granted in a time before the Sewer Age ended, and that nearly all of the players who received one have quit, there is ample reason that 99.9% of players endgame or not in-game do not even know of its existence, and that even many forumers have either forgotten or never perceived its existence.

Thus, I withdraw my previous statement.
There IS truly a parallel to the infatuating and legendary connotations associated with the Bronx Bomber; the Pocket Legends' Shield of Legends.

[Caiahar]

Thanks whirl....

[tHelonestud]

I believe several PL shields were given out around a year ago for a contest.
I think most who won either quit or were banned though.

[Subscriber]

Yanis did so much and nobody looks at his threads now, how sad.

[Sryyoulose]

Yanis did so much and nobody looks at his threads now, how sad.

Nobody looks at stickys anymore, no new guides are posted, and pocket legends community is filled with immature.

[Kixxler]

Yanis did so much and nobody looks at his threads now, how sad.

He must've spent weeks making all those threads..

[CrimsonTider]

Yanis did so much and nobody looks at his threads now, how sad.

I do. He, Drew, and Whirlz have saved me a lot of time and headaches. Oh how I miss the old days.

[Caiahar]

I do. He, Drew, and Whirlz have saved me a lot of time and headaches. Oh how I miss the old days.

I still check Legendary Yanis' guides. Most oldies are gone now, basically only ones now are Apollo, Mystialdream, and whirlzap. And maybe King Richie. He said he started playing again. And physiologic made ONE post last month, not related to any game.

P.S: idk if crim is an oldie.

[MightyMicah]

Nobody looks at stickys anymore, no new guides are posted, and pocket legends community is filled with immature.

That's not true. New guides are posted all the time that I'm very impressed with. It's just no one ever takes the time to read them.

[CrimsonTider]

I still check Legendary Yanis' guides. Most oldies are gone now, basically only ones now are Apollo, Mystialdream, and whirlzap. And maybe King Richie. He said he started playing again. And physiologic made ONE post last month, not related to any game.

P.S: idk if crim is an oldie.

If you think those are the only oldies playing, then you are not aware of your PL history. Many "oldies" play, some on unknown alts, some at different times due to timezones. A quick glance through cs will show this. (Maybe only "oldies" know this though.)

[tHelonestud]

That's not true. New guides are posted all the time that I'm very impressed with. It's just no one ever takes the time to read them.
Most new guides are PvP which is simply people explaining their play styles essentially. I'm not putting down the work, but at this point PvP is just a joke. The guides don't even compare to old things like these:
Pocket-Legends-Enemy-Boss-and-NPC-Compendium (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?18229-Pocket-Legends-Enemy-Boss-and-NPC-Compendium) - Can't even imagine the immense time put into this work
Guide-to-Advanced-Mechanics-in-PL-DPS-Crits-etc. (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?16817-Guide-to-Advanced-Mechanics-in-PL-DPS-Crits-etc.) - Another insane display of effort and care
All (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?8356-Pinks-with-Stats-and-Pictures-Dark-Forest-to-Fathom-Crypt) of (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?8362-Pinks-with-Stats-and-Pictures-The-Lost-Expedition-and-Frozen-Nightmares) Yanis's (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?8377-Pinks-with-Stats-and-Pictures-The-Ancient-Swamps-and-Skeller-Krunch-Returns) lists (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?8387-Pinks-with-Stats-and-Pictures-Alien-Oasis-Part-I-amp-Part-II) of (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?8939-Pinks-with-Stats-and-Pictures-Alien-Oasis-Part-III) pinks (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?18619-Pinks-with-Stats-and-Pictures-Balefort-Sewers-amp-Crafting) with (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?35495-Pinks-with-Stats-and-Pictures-Nuri%92s-Hallows) pictures (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?32551-Vanity-Items-with-Pictures).

and many, many other.

A lot are quite old and need updated, so, no, I wouldn't really compare any modern guides to a high caliber of helpfulness.

[MightyMicah]

Most new guides are PvP which is simply people explaining their play styles essentially. I'm not putting down the work, but at this point PvP is just a joke. The guides don't even compare to old things like these:
Pocket-Legends-Enemy-Boss-and-NPC-Compendium (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?18229-Pocket-Legends-Enemy-Boss-and-NPC-Compendium) - Can't even imagine the immense time put into this work
Guide-to-Advanced-Mechanics-in-PL-DPS-Crits-etc. (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?16817-Guide-to-Advanced-Mechanics-in-PL-DPS-Crits-etc.) - Another insane display of effort and care
All (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?8356-Pinks-with-Stats-and-Pictures-Dark-Forest-to-Fathom-Crypt) of (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?8362-Pinks-with-Stats-and-Pictures-The-Lost-Expedition-and-Frozen-Nightmares) Yanis's (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?8377-Pinks-with-Stats-and-Pictures-The-Ancient-Swamps-and-Skeller-Krunch-Returns) lists (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?8387-Pinks-with-Stats-and-Pictures-Alien-Oasis-Part-I-amp-Part-II) of (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?8939-Pinks-with-Stats-and-Pictures-Alien-Oasis-Part-III) pinks (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?18619-Pinks-with-Stats-and-Pictures-Balefort-Sewers-amp-Crafting) with (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?35495-Pinks-with-Stats-and-Pictures-Nuri%92s-Hallows) pictures (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?32551-Vanity-Items-with-Pictures).

and many, many other.

A lot are quite old and need updated, so, no, I wouldn't really compare any modern guides to a high caliber of helpfulness.

I would. Don't get me wrong, I'm not disrespecting the oldies, they were geniuses. But the foundation had to be layed by someone. Just because we can't lay the foundation anymore doesn't mean we can't be creative. I think there are plenty of people who are just as smart and creative as the oldies. Let's try not to turn our founders into Gods. They were great, smart people, but they were just like anyone else.

[tHelonestud]

I would. Don't get me wrong, I'm not disrespecting the oldies, they were geniuses. But the foundation had to be layed by someone. Just because we can't lay the foundation anymore doesn't mean we can't be creative. I think there are plenty of people who are just as smart and creative as the oldies. Let's try not to turn our founders into Gods. They were great, smart people, but they were just like anyone else.
I am not saying the founders were gods. I am saying a few individuals who happened to be founders were gods.
Many of the mechanics have been modified by spacetime; there are many new pinks, npcs, and levels. Why has no one taken the time to update these if the new community is just like them? Even simple things like redbridge's guide list could be modified. No one recent has even attempted a price checking series of guides like hunzzz tried.

[CrimsonTider]

I am not saying the founders were gods. I am saying a few individuals who happened to be founders were gods.
Many of the mechanics have been modified by spacetime; there are many new pinks, npcs, and levels. Why has no one taken the time to update these if the new community is just like them? Even simple things like redbridge's guide list could be modified. No one recent has even attempted a price checking series of guides like hunzzz tried.

Hunzzz's pricing guide was a revolving door. He was brave to take on a task which only someone who merched as much as he did could handle. And I am sure it even drove him insane.

As to why guides aren't updated, created, or evolved is because no one reads/appreciates them like the community use to. Trust me when I say the time investment is usually not worth the end result: flaming, trolling, and arguing.

[tHelonestud]

Hunzzz's pricing guide was a revolving door. He was brave to take on a task which only someone who merched as much as he did could handle. And I am sure it even drove him insane.

As to why guides aren't updated, created, or evolved is because no one reads/appreciates them like the community use to. Trust me when I say the time investment is usually not worth the end result: flaming, trolling, and arguing.
I agree
the community has become much more immature
I don't think it's fair to say no one checks them because the majority of forumers already know a lot of the basics.
I have met several people in game say they used leveling guides to cap their characters from gear to specs to playstyle, players without a forum account

But I understand the trolling especially if you look at the more recent(even up to a year and a half ago) partially due to those guides poor quality.
If you make a useful guide though, and people can really see you spent a lot of time on it, for the most part, the community will respect it.

[Subscriber]

Nobody looks at stickys anymore, no new guides are posted, and pocket legends community is filled with immature.

I still look at the stickys and I'm sure a majority of the oldies do too, I agree with what you're saying.


He must've spent weeks making all those threads..

Yeah, he was definitely one to be remembered, a lot of time was done to do that.


Hunzzz's pricing guide was a revolving door. He was brave to take on a task which only someone who merched as much as he did could handle. And I am sure it even drove him insane.

As to why guides aren't updated, created, or evolved is because no one reads/appreciates them like the community use to. Trust me when I say the time investment is usually not worth the end result: flaming, trolling, and arguing.

Yeah, I'm sure all of us are capable of creating a wonderful guide but if it didn't fit the average troll's standards then the outcome would be horrendous. But everything you type is worth reading, Crim. :) I tip my hat to you sir.

[Whirlzap]

Hunzzz's pricing guide was a revolving door. He was brave to take on a task which only someone who merched as much as he did could handle. And I am sure it even drove him insane.

As to why guides aren't updated, created, or evolved is because no one reads/appreciates them like the community use to. Trust me when I say the time investment is usually not worth the end result: flaming, trolling, and arguing.

@Shadowstar: Yeah, Crims is an oldie. He's actually played PL longer than me, as have most of the other oldies.
I joined the forums during the Sewer Age, and even then, the basic foundation, such as Yanis' pink guides and Physiologic's Mechanics Guides were already stickied and laid down in place. Honestly, most of what we could call the "Enlightenment" era of the forums occurred way before the 56 cap, and since I joined as an avid poster during then, I have a really fuzzy memory of stuff that happened before that because of only occasional lurking.

@Crims:
I'm sure Physiologic and Yanis spent a huge amount of time in their guides.
The sheer amount of math and pink categorization as well as image uploading for every single pink would drive me nuts.
I, personally, like to do things in a disciplined matter.
If I don't want to do something, I'll just procrastinate forever.
However, if I set my mind on it, I'm like a trained robot forced to do something to the best of its efforts.
For nearly all of my pink lists and threads, I've done them all in one sitting non-stop.

And don't kill the credit for yourself either.
Despite the fact that you didn't make any reference works, you've made plenty of forum essays, comparisons, and other detailed works/threads.
I remember you doing a LOT of work in the bear category, comparing each cap's gear with the other.
That work, although sadly, like many other guides and threads, is buried deep in General Discussion, had a brief but very comprehensive impact on the forums.
There's a reason why they gave you the red shield, Crims.


As for Hunzzz, his guides are more than they seem to the eye.
Despite the quantity of his guide, it's more the quality that matters.
Sure, writing up some prices and items seems pretty easy, but acquiring valid and testable knowledge required to write such an accurate set of guides takes much more time and work.
The same goes for other threads on the forums that have went unappreciated in the past year or so.

@Micah:
I commend you for holding strongly to those set of beliefs.
I also agree, there are still players these days that pop up and surprise us with something exceptional.
And I also notice this "Anti-New Player Cult" that's gathering much more popularity as each generation of newer players joins the game and forums.
It seems like a preservative "cult", one to preserve the works that laid the foundation of PL, yet one that creates a border of alienation between the newer and older players.
Other than that, I feel like this discussion has went from 'What is this shield?' to 'Oldie guides are cool!'
Which makes no sense to me.

The forums these days.

[Subscriber]

Whirlz I started it.

[Caiahar]

@crimsontider: all right sue me...I don't know many oldies. What I DO remember, is one of my friends from sewer cap, I met him again today. He barely recognized me. And I'm sure you played longer than most ppl.

@Whirlzap: Yeah, I can't imagine the time and effort it took to make those guides. I remember your last blacksmoke mt. Guide on all pinks, but that was before blacksmoke expansion. I appreciate the work. Whenever I need some checking, I check yours or Yanis' pink guides.
Hunzzz....he made a guide on MERCHING. He would list and update the price of MANY items in cs.

The PL community is not just what it used to be. Trolls running everywhere you see, ppl being scammed left and right, in Nuri and sewer days, I hardly heard of anyone who got scammed. After mt. Fang, I began to see more bad ppl showing up.
I'm glad to see whirlzap back and other oldies..

[CrimsonTider]

@Shadowstar: Yeah, Crims is an oldie. He's actually played PL longer than me, as have most of the other oldies.
I joined the forums during the Sewer Age, and even then, the basic foundation, such as Yanis' pink guides and Physiologic's Mechanics Guides were already stickied and laid down in place. Honestly, most of what we could call the "Enlightenment" era of the forums occurred way before the 56 cap, and since I joined as an avid poster during then, I have a really fuzzy memory of stuff that happened before that because of only occasional lurking.

@Crims:
I'm sure Physiologic and Yanis spent a huge amount of time in their guides.
The sheer amount of math and pink categorization as well as image uploading for every single pink would drive me nuts.
I, personally, like to do things in a disciplined matter.
If I don't want to do something, I'll just procrastinate forever.
However, if I set my mind on it, I'm like a trained robot forced to do something to the best of its efforts.
For nearly all of my pink lists and threads, I've done them all in one sitting non-stop.

And don't kill the credit for yourself either.
Despite the fact that you didn't make any reference works, you've made plenty of forum essays, comparisons, and other detailed works/threads.
I remember you doing a LOT of work in the bear category, comparing each cap's gear with the other.
That work, although sadly, like many other guides and threads, is buried deep in General Discussion, had a brief but very comprehensive impact on the forums.
There's a reason why they gave you the red shield, Crims.


As for Hunzzz, his guides are more than they seem to the eye.
Despite the quantity of his guide, it's more the quality that matters.
Sure, writing up some prices and items seems pretty easy, but acquiring valid and testable knowledge required to write such an accurate set of guides takes much more time and work.
The same goes for other threads on the forums that have went unappreciated in the past year or so.

@Micah:
I commend you for holding strongly to those set of beliefs.
I also agree, there are still players these days that pop up and surprise us with something exceptional.
And I also notice this "Anti-New Player Cult" that's gathering much more popularity as each generation of newer players joins the game and forums.
It seems like a preservative "cult", one to preserve the works that laid the foundation of PL, yet one that creates a border of alienation between the newer and older players.
Other than that, I feel like this discussion has went from 'What is this shield?' to 'Oldie guides are cool!'
Which makes no sense to me.

The forums these days.

My, how you have grown. :)