Bears Need to Suck It Up and Use Taunt

[outcastranger]

Something ridiculous has been going on in pocket legends. I have noticed that there will be bears in a party and they are too scared to lead the charge into a mob. They leave it to the characters with lower health to do it. I understand this does not include all bears but it does include some. Plz try to fix it.

Now on to my main complaint, bears need to use taunt more. They do the least damage(behind paladins), so the bosses don't attack them. The party would BENEFIT if the bears took the damage because the warrior has the most health. But how could i get the boss to attack me? they say. USE TAUNT. I am not trying to pin down warriors and say that they are wimps but some of you warriors need to use taunt more. It is a skill for a reason

[Wendellism]

Something ridiculous has been going on in pocket legends. I have noticed that there will be bears in a party and they are too scared to lead the charge into a mob. They leave it to the characters with lower health to do it. I understand this does not include all bears but it does include some. Plz try to fix it.

Now on to my main complaint, bears need to use taunt more. They do the least damage(behind paladins), so the bosses don't attack them. The party would BENEFIT if the bears took the damage because the warrior has the most health. But how could i get the boss to attack me? they say. USE TAUNT. I am not trying to pin down warriors and say that they are wimps but some of you warriors need to use taunt more. It is a skill for a reason

Correction, Rhinoes deals the WORST damage compared to bears. At least Bears are capable of dealing competant DPS.

But I do agree with your point, bears are meant to tank and deal DPS, not to stay away from gaining aggro. Such bears I would consider them noobs, be it they are level 76 or with thrasher.

[Gragorak]

If i see str bear that is not taunting, i use boot function.

[outcastranger]

Thanks for the replies! :)

[CrimsonTider]

The problem with taunt, even in a maxed state, is the amount of damage bears deal. With the insane amount of damage mages and birds do, taunt only works long enough for for a bird/mage to get a hit and aggro is focused back on them. The best chance a bear has is to use either a two-handed sword/weapon or a bow which drastically decreases the tanking abilities. Some of us can handle the pot spamming, but not many can.

I agree that bears are truly a dying breed. However, it has been this way since elixirs hit it big back at the end of Sewers, beginning of Nuri's.

[outcastranger]

So am I correct in saying that the bear is the worst class? I mean the paladin like never dies, the mage has good skills overall, the archer does tons of DPS, and the ranger has tremendous DPS with skills that could probably challenge the archers. The bear just has health, rage, iron-blood, and beckon/stomp combo. However, I do believe that all classes are needed to make the game. We can't have a pocket legends of just archers or just paladins, I still think that the bear is some-what needed. Just not as much now that the paladin(a health tank) has come out.

[joshtheboss]

Lol IMO rhino is worst.

[CrimsonTider]

So am I correct in saying that the bear is the worst class? I mean the paladin like never dies, the mage has good skills overall, the archer does tons of DPS, and the ranger has tremendous DPS with skills that could probably challenge the archers. The bear just has health, rage, iron-blood, and beckon/stomp combo. However, I do believe that all classes are needed to make the game. We can't have a pocket legends of just archers or just paladins, I still think that the bear is some-what needed. Just not as much now that the paladin(a health tank) has come out.

Actually, those of us who know how to play the class properly would argue, bears, are the best class.

[tHelonestud]

Bears especially once you hit 65 are by far the most overpowered class, with any decent gear, they will have essentially a 180 damage boost as long as rage is in effect, constant 28 extra dodge for those who know how to play the class at all, as well as debuffs essentially making them invincible.
Main thing that needs fixed is scattering, which really isnt that major when with elixirs a beckon stomp leaves like 1% enemy health left

[aav5224]

taount is like a attractive thing for mobs mobs r made for bears like a love potion

[outcastranger]

Actually, those of us who know how to play the class properly would argue, bears, are the best class.
o ok. my bad. :)

[outcastranger]

just dont see how it could possibly be the best class. it relies on a skill for damage

[joshtheboss]

just dont see how it could possibly be the best class. it relies on a skill for damage

So do all the other classes? Lol.

[outcastranger]

I meant rage. it does no damage without rage.

[Gragorak]

I meant rage. it does no damage without rage.
Which is why all bears have maxed rage.

[Caiahar]

I meant rage. it does no damage without rage.

Who doesnt want lotsa dmg? M
Besides , ranged classes are more in my line and specialty.

[tHelonestud]

just dont see how it could possibly be the best class. it relies on a skill for damage

mainly due to the massive health pool, where as a 600 damage skill will kill pure birds, unshielded mages, most strength rhinos and foxes. A bear can survive spam a few pots and take another huge hit.

[CrimsonTider]

I meant rage. it does no damage without rage.

It is not just about "rage" and the other skills. "Smash" (beckon+stomp) may be the most powerful/useful skill in game when used appropriately. Beckon is the only skill in game with the capability to quickly effectively group a large mass of mobs, place them in a particular spot on the map, stun, and cause damage all at once. When combined with Stomp and a mage's Ice Storm, it's game over. Stank and I have cleared thousands upon thousands of maps with just these three "damage" skills.

One must have an understanding of all classes to truly understand the benefit of one.

[tHelonestud]

Who doesnt want lotsa dmg? M
Besides , ranged classes are more in my line and specialty.

Most related post of thread

[outcastranger]

It is not just about "rage" and the other skills. "Smash" (beckon+stomp) may be the most powerful/useful skill in game when used appropriately. Beckon is the only skill in game with the capability to quickly effectively group a large mass of mobs, place them in a particular spot on the map, stun, and cause damage all at once. When combined with Stomp and a mage's Ice Storm, it's game over. Stank and I have cleared thousands upon thousands of maps with just these three "damage" skills.

One must have an understanding of all classes to truly understand the benefit of one.
The ranger has a becon-like skill.... I dont know if it the same or not
i think i may have a point though :)

[Cavoc]

If you decide to spam skills, then sure, bears do suck.
But as a bear you should think about control. Which is my absolute favorite thing about bears. You control where you want your enemies to go. Think strategically.
If it wasn't for beckon, half of the skills used by other classes would be way worse. You group beckon to the wall, run around, stomp, and everyone else can use their skills to where it'll hit all of the enemies rather than some if they were scattered around.

On the rage subject... I have no idea what you're talking about. Bosses always attack me.

Bears are awesome. They can survive, deal alot of damage, and have control.

[CrimsonTider]

The ranger has a becon-like skill.... I dont know if it the same or not

I am about to make a fox. Look for a comparative guide to compare/contrast the two.

[XghostzX]

I am about to make a fox. Look for a comparative guide to compare/contrast the two.

It's slighly weaker than the Bear's beckon, but still useful ofc.

[outcastranger]

It's slighly weaker than the Bear's beckon, but still useful ofc.
So do you guys think that the bear is the best class?

[tHelonestud]

So do you guys think that the bear is the best class?
each has it's place, the bear just kinda overlaps into other classes' areas, primarily due to rage

[CrimsonTider]

So do you guys think that the bear is the best class?

Already answered.

[NECROREAPER]

If played well, the bear can be a solid and very useful team member. However if played poorly, the bear is one of the worst classes in the game.

As troncaat said above, playing the bear effectively is all about control. If you have no self control over your skills and spam them incessantly youʻll more than likely end up getting your self killed or booted and worse yet, others killed because of your ignorance. On the other hand, if you time your beckon perfectly and stomp your enemies into a wall your DPS loving friends can vaporize them while you run merrily off in to the distance ahead of the group to create yet another mob sandwich for the rest of your party. In the instance I illustrated above, everyone has a good time and maps fly by. I feel as if the importance of bears was most prevalent during sewers, as an effective bear could help reduce the time to run a map from 5-8 minutes down to 2-3.

As youʻll learn through playing the bear class, its one that requires a lot of learning and refinement, far more than any of the other classes so far, although when you got it down its very rewarding. Remember that the bear isnʻt only played one way, just as a mage doesnʻt only nuke, sometimes hes a paladin, or sometimes thereʻs int birds (my fave). Whichever route you choose, remember to keep the rest of your group in mind and most importantly have fun.


*EDIT*
Oh and one more thing, donʻt let anyone tell you that in order to tank you need a 1H weapon and shield, it can be done very effectively with 2H weapons provided you know how to use them and your limits (trust me on this one).

[outcastranger]

Already answered.
Ok ok.... don't get mad it's just the forums and I'm a noob trying to understand each class. Please understand and don't get frustrated. I understand that you know 100 times more than me about the game and just want to tell me and move on. I just want to know the best class to go. Sorry if I made you frustrated.

[outcastranger]

If played well, the bear can be a solid and very useful team member. However if played poorly, the bear is one of the worst classes in the game.

As troncaat said above, playing the bear effectively is all about control. If you have no self control over your skills and spam them incessantly youʻll more than likely end up getting your self killed or booted and worse yet, others killed because of your ignorance. On the other hand, if you time your beckon perfectly and stomp your enemies into a wall your DPS loving friends can vaporize them while you run merrily off in to the distance ahead of the group to create yet another mob sandwich for the rest of your party. In the instance I illustrated above, everyone has a good time and maps fly by. I feel as if the importance of bears was most prevalent during sewers, as an effective bear could help reduce the time to run a map from 5-8 minutes down to 2-3.

As youʻll learn through playing the bear class, its one that requires a lot of learning and refinement, far more than any of the other classes so far, although when you got it down its very rewarding. Remember that the bear isnʻt only played one way, just as a mage doesnʻt only nuke, sometimes hes a paladin, or sometimes thereʻs int birds (my fave). Whichever route you choose, remember to keep the rest of your group in mind and most importantly have fun.


*EDIT*
Oh and one more thing, donʻt let anyone tell you that in order to tank you need a 1H weapon and shield, it can be done very effectively with 2H weapons provided you know how to use them and your limits (trust me on this one).
Thank you. This truly sheds light on what I was trying to understand. This a very solid post that I respect and will follow with great dignity.

[tHelonestud]

Ok ok.... don't get mad it's just the forums and I'm a noob trying to understand each class. Please understand and don't get frustrated. I understand that you know 100 times more than me about the game and just want to tell me and move on. I just want to know the best class to go. Sorry if I made you frustrated.
Like my personal favorite is bird, but bears are very easy once you get the hang of it.

[Rare]

just dont see how it could possibly be the best class. it relies on a skill for damage

Man it's been a long time since I've played pl. But I have to say, bear is the hardest class to play. It's the easiest class to make yourself look like a noob. If you find a bear that really knows how to play, it's a thing of beauty. Easily was my favorite class.

[CrimsonTider]

Ok ok.... don't get mad it's just the forums and I'm a noob trying to understand each class. Please understand and don't get frustrated. I understand that you know 100 times more than me about the game and just want to tell me and move on. I just want to know the best class to go. Sorry if I made you frustrated.

First, I don't get mad. Second, I am fairly certain I did my share of explaining. Three of us have gone into great depth on the effectiveness of the bear. However, since we are humans, we have the ability of choice and it is up to you to choose what is best for you.

[outcastranger]

I understand that you did your fair share of explaining, I simply was saying that I don't want to get you frustrated. I know you said u don't get mad.

[Reunegade]

Have you seen bears in PvP? They could easily beckon-stomp win if the bear dodges the birds repulse.

[Spyce]

Have you seen bears in PvP? They could easily beckon-stomp win if the bear dodges the birds repulse.

Birds own.

[Wendellism]

Birds own.
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[outcastranger]

Thanks guys

[tHelonestud]

Taunt should be a 1-3 second time where everything is forced to attack you, with triple armor during that time instead of dodge!

dodge definitely needs decreased

[Caiahar]

Taunt should be a 1-3 second time where everything is forced to attack you, with triple armor during that time instead of dodge!

OP in pvp.
Lol ik this thread is about pve.
But the dodge is stackable, and its basically,
FREE DODGE!
Taunt cos zero mana, and stacks, and combine With evasion.

[Wendellism]

OP in pvp.
Lol ik this thread is about pve.
But the dodge is stackable, and its basically,
FREE DODGE!
Taunt cos zero mana, and stacks, and combine With evasion.

And the stacking in itself makes Bears unique, after all, has any of you seen any other class which buffs could stack?

[tHelonestud]

And the stacking in itself makes Bears unique, after all, has any of you seen any other class which buffs could stack?
not self stacking, but rhino party buffs stack with other rhinos' allowing for massive damage buffs

[Wendellism]

not self stacking, but rhino party buffs stack with other rhinos' allowing for massive damage buffs

You sir, are definitely one of Elyseon's fanboiz.

[Caiahar]

not self stacking, but rhino party buffs stack with other rhinos' allowing for massive damage buffs

You sir, are definitely one of Elyseon's fanboiz.
Im one too! :p

[Reunegade]

Im one too! :p
Bet you don't know who Elyseon is.

[tHelonestud]

You sir, are definitely one of Elyseon's fanboiz.
Maybe he was one of my fanboys

[Matutd]

not self stacking, but rhino party buffs stack with other rhinos' allowing for massive damage buffs

You sir, are definitely one of Elyseon's fanboiz.
Why would anyone be elyseon's fanboy? Nevermind tHelonestud himself.

[Noi`ya]

Elyseon is so generous!

[Apostel]

I remember a time, where 2 bears were needed to get a succesful shadow cave run... this much as a prolog.


The problem with taunt, even in a maxed state, is the amount of damage bears deal. With the insane amount of damage mages and birds do, taunt only works long enough for for a bird/mage to get a hit and aggro is focused back on them. The best chance a bear has is to use either a two-handed sword/weapon or a bow which drastically decreases the tanking abilities. Some of us can handle the pot spamming, but not many can.

I agree that bears are truly a dying breed. However, it has been this way since elixirs hit it big back at the end of Sewers, beginning of Nuri's.

I agree with the point of potsmamming. It can be very exhausting. I experience it quite a few times lately when tanking with dex gear the dragon campaign. It is nothing you will learn overnight, you must practise it to switch between skills and pots quickly or throw in 1 or more pots between your skill sequence.


So am I correct in saying that the bear is the worst class? I mean the paladin like never dies, the mage has good skills overall, the archer does tons of DPS, and the ranger has tremendous DPS with skills that could probably challenge the archers. The bear just has health, rage, iron-blood, and beckon/stomp combo. However, I do believe that all classes are needed to make the game. We can't have a pocket legends of just archers or just paladins, I still think that the bear is some-what needed. Just not as much now that the paladin(a health tank) has come out.

Call me old school but for me I just cant imagine a farming session without a single bear in my party.


Actually, those of us who know how to play the class properly would argue, bears, are the best class.

Totally agree with this.


It is not just about "rage" and the other skills. "Smash" (beckon+stomp) may be the most powerful/useful skill in game when used appropriately. Beckon is the only skill in game with the capability to quickly effectively group a large mass of mobs, place them in a particular spot on the map, stun, and cause damage all at once. When combined with Stomp and a mage's Ice Storm, it's game over. Stank and I have cleared thousands upon thousands of maps with just these three "damage" skills.

One must have an understanding of all classes to truly understand the benefit of one.

The biggest advantage of the bear class is the massive crowd controll skill effects along with the huge mass debuff. Pull, Hellscream, Stomp, Taunt. That are most efficient skills. Combine them with a mage and bird and you can easily farm any dungeon.


If you decide to spam skills, then sure, bears do suck.
But as a bear you should think about control. Which is my absolute favorite thing about bears. You control where you want your enemies to go. Think strategically.
If it wasn't for beckon, half of the skills used by other classes would be way worse. You group beckon to the wall, run around, stomp, and everyone else can use their skills to where it'll hit all of the enemies rather than some if they were scattered around.

On the rage subject... I have no idea what you're talking about. Bosses always attack me.

Bears are awesome. They can survive, deal alot of damage, and have control.

Totally agree with that.


Elyseon is so generous!

Elly is a :banana: ;) jk.

[outcastranger]

Wow. Great explanation :)

[Peanutbritle]

Wow Outcastranger, you are very controversial in not just the ranger discussion but also in the bear descussion!!! I appreciate the fact that new players are voicing their opinion. Now on to my point.

The bear is the hardest class but pays off if you really know what your doing. If you are a good bear who tanks and aggros the boss, you will be friended by 90% of who you play with. Simply because, who doesnt want a good bear in the party? :)

Peanut xD

[Kixxler]

I meant rage. it does no damage without rage.

So... archers need focus and mages need bov as well...

[Masteraerykh]

Srry to say but I simply don't trust random parties I have used taunt multiple times and my team doesn't back me up I took down 5 trolls at low level and a boss all at the same time and my "team" just stood around

[UnkemptLouie]

Srry to say but I simply don't trust random parties I have used taunt multiple times and my team doesn't back me up I took down 5 trolls at low level and a boss all at the same time and my "team" just stood around

Then you need to find a reliable party and play with them. Guilds are always a good option.

[ucapes]

Bear is made to Tank; PVE,PVP and CTF :D...Bear not tanking i think, they dont want to have many deaths... :D

[Peanutbritle]

i 100% agree with you except that bear is definitely the best class. Its consistant DPS and crowd control abilities allow it to dominate PvE as well as PvP