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Feonask
05-21-2013, 03:30 PM
Ive been after napalm since lvl 33 and never got and someone told me they dont drop please help me thanks

razerfingers
05-21-2013, 03:41 PM
They do. Uber rare since nobody farms there

Sent using blood on a bathroom wall.

Feonask
05-21-2013, 03:47 PM
I tried ever since i could but nothing

Urqui
05-21-2013, 04:10 PM
They do. Uber rare since nobody farms there

Sent using blood on a bathroom wall.

I've farmed there plenty while helping friend's noob alts level. Even seeing Queen drop a purple is very rare so getting to reroll a purple into pink AND have be a napalm is super dooper rare.; (

Feonask
05-24-2013, 02:27 PM
Oh and im poor so i canf get enhan

Shonex
05-26-2013, 08:09 AM
I saw a dude get Napalm of DM with no rerols! I couldn't believe it :disillusionment:

Beoafac
05-31-2013, 12:01 PM
I got my napalm without any enhancer or any luck.. just keep trying and never lose hope.

razerfingers
05-31-2013, 02:21 PM
I got my napalm without any enhancer or any luck.. just keep trying and never lose hope.

Thnx i use big luck ill farm here and there when i hit 50 lol

Sent using blood on a bathroom wall.

DesertPirate
06-01-2013, 01:40 AM
I always wonder why ppl always think that certain rare loot dont drop anymoreo_O
There just very rare so we might invest some time in it;)

ravish_919
06-12-2013, 05:59 AM
I always wonder why ppl always think that certain rare loot dont drop anymoreo_O
There just very rare so we might invest some time in it;)

Yes, keep on trying until u get...

Hi beo & desert pirate. This is Ravichandu

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DesertPirate
06-13-2013, 02:39 AM
Nice to see you here Rav(:
So you made your the the forums eh?;)

bmendonc
06-19-2013, 07:11 PM
its not that they dont drop anymore, its because no1 farms there anymore (and im comparing to b4 lvl cap increase)

Sryyoulose
06-20-2013, 05:08 PM
I've seen 3 drop 2 without re-roll

Luck has not been on my side

Ihavenokills
06-25-2013, 01:53 AM
Ive gotten 4-5 drops back when the map first came out but i had enhancers and the runs were pre set with a group and were extremely fast. I think with less and less players being active, rare drops are becoming thinner and thinner in numbers.

Conquered
06-25-2013, 05:02 AM
Probably Yes, it still drops. Im a Napalm Farmer :3 and my tips is to buy Miners Luck (20 platinum) or the Enchancer the (80 platinum thing) Also i farmed 19 napalms in 1 week but i was just dissapointed that almost all that drop is Bioneural Napalm and Fused.. also 1 more tip. Dont get Bored..1 more... If you arent a platinum buyer i suggest that you wear your Lucky Head thingy(i dont remember the name but i have it) if you still not have those things. I suggest you do 500-800 runs in 1 month just to get 5-7 Napalms. :D
Those were my experience using my super duper ultimate secret alt :)
Enjoy my Tips and Runs and remember dont get BORED!!



-Zenxpro

Spyce
06-25-2013, 05:05 AM
All about luck.
#100%Luck

Conquered
06-25-2013, 05:23 AM
Yes..

Reunegade
06-25-2013, 08:53 AM
LOLOLOLOL I'm in SL Forums now

Spyce
06-25-2013, 11:58 AM
LOLOLOLOL I'm in SL Forums now

You don't even play.
Get out plox.

~Widdershin~
06-28-2013, 08:15 PM
lol zenxpro can i have even 1 bioneural napalm

~Widdershin~
06-28-2013, 08:22 PM
If i Use 20 Plat Miner's Luck is it 100% that i can get a napalm

FluidShot
06-28-2013, 08:36 PM
If i Use 20 Plat Miner's Luck is it 100% that i can get a napalm

Woah... Not at all. Miners luck ensures that 100% of the drops you get, are re-rolled.

How I think this works is if an item is re-rolled, it will increase in rarity by one category. Meaning, if you drop a green, and you re-roll on the item, it will turn into an epic item.

So with regards to the queen, which drops greens ~80% of the time, and you have miners luck, you will get an epic drop.

That ~20% that is left is split between uncommon's and epics (with negligible chance of no-enhancer pink drop) . So let's say it is ~10% each. This leaves us with a ~10% chance that without the Miner's Luck, you will drop an epic. With Miner's Luck, this will re-roll into a legendary. Overall, this gives us a ~10% chance of getting a legendary.

Now, the Queen drops the legendarys: Chrome Phoenix, Flux Cannon, Phase Injectors, and Napalms. Each of these has four variants (bioneural, fused, dark-matter, and primed), that can drop. This gives us 16 possible legendaries the hive queen can drop. However, if you aren't concerned about which type of napalm, we can forget the variant part.

So, if you want a napalm to drop, even with Miner's luck, your chance is ~10%/4. Four, for the Chrome, Flux, Phase, or Napalms.

Overall, this is ~2% chance, with Miner's Luck, of a napalm dropping. So sorry, Miner's Luck does not guarantee a napalm drop.

Sorry for the long-winded answer. None of these percentages are actually tested, they are just guesses, so my actual percentage answers could be way off.

Reunegade
06-30-2013, 06:44 PM
Woah... Not at all. Miners luck ensures that 100% of the drops you get, are re-rolled.

How I think this works is if an item is re-rolled, it will increase in rarity by one category. Meaning, if you drop a green, and you re-roll on the item, it will turn into an epic item.

So with regards to the queen, which drops greens ~80% of the time, and you have miners luck, you will get an epic drop.

That ~20% that is left is split between uncommon's and epics (with negligible chance of no-enhancer pink drop) . So let's say it is ~10% each. This leaves us with a ~10% chance that without the Miner's Luck, you will drop an epic. With Miner's Luck, this will re-roll into a legendary. Overall, this gives us a ~10% chance of getting a legendary.

Now, the Queen drops the legendarys: Chrome Phoenix, Flux Cannon, Phase Injectors, and Napalms. Each of these has four variants (bioneural, fused, dark-matter, and primed), that can drop. This gives us 16 possible legendaries the hive queen can drop. However, if you aren't concerned about which type of napalm, we can forget the variant part.

So, if you want a napalm to drop, even with Miner's luck, your chance is ~10%/4. Four, for the Chrome, Flux, Phase, or Napalms.

Overall, this is ~2% chance, with Miner's Luck, of a napalm dropping. So sorry, Miner's Luck does not guarantee a napalm drop.

Sorry for the long-winded answer. None of these percentages are actually tested, they are just guesses, so my actual percentage answers could be way off.
You are mistaken. If you don't care what variant of Napalm you get, than you have to add in the other variants of the other items that the queen drops. So basically that is 4 (different variants) multiplied by 3 (the drops you can get here, subtracting the Napalm itself) which is 12, but than you have to add 1 into it because you are forgetting the Napalm itself. So that is less than a 1% chance to get a Napalm of any variant using Miner's Luck.

Spyce
06-30-2013, 06:45 PM
You are mistaken. If you don't care what variant of Napalm you get, than you have to add in the other variants of the other items that the queen drops. So basically that is 4 (different variants) multiplied by 3 (the drops you can get here, subtracting the Napalm itself) which is 12, but than you have to add 1 into it because you are forgetting the Napalm itself. So that is less than a 1% chance to get a Napalm of any variant using Miner's Luck.

How do you know so much about SL?

FluidShot
06-30-2013, 11:13 PM
You are mistaken. If you don't care what variant of Napalm you get, than you have to add in the other variants of the other items that the queen drops. So basically that is 4 (different variants) multiplied by 3 (the drops you can get here, subtracting the Napalm itself) which is 12, but than you have to add 1 into it because you are forgetting the Napalm itself. So that is less than a 1% chance to get a Napalm of any variant using Miner's Luck.

I actually believe you are mistaken... Considering there are four variants of the four pinks the queen drops, this is 16 possible pink drops.

If you are happy with any napalm, this means you are happy with 4 of the 16 possible pinks. 4 : 16 = 1 : 4

Unless I am insane, this means that if you don't care what napalm you get, you're still left with the 1:4 ratio, leaving the 10%/4 accurate.


You are mistaken. If you don't care what variant of Napalm you get, than you have to add in the other variants of the other items that the queen drops. So basically that is 4 (different variants) multiplied by 3 (the drops you can get here, subtracting the Napalm itself) which is 12, but than you have to add 1 into it because you are forgetting the Napalm itself. So that is less than a 1% chance to get a Napalm of any variant using Miner's Luck.

Since you're happy with any napalm which you've given to represent 1, but you're counting each other variant of the pinks as 1, you're basically saying that 1=4. (1, being the number you've chosen to represent the napalm itself, but you've also said it is representing all the variants of the napalm, because you don't care which one you get.)

Therein, lies the error, I think.

Mitchturbo
07-01-2013, 12:43 AM
We had some good hive runs earlier, shame about the drops though :-) next time though! Hopefully lol XD

ShadowGunX
07-01-2013, 04:13 AM
watever, it is all about luck, it is complete random. miner lck only increase luck. one can get prime nap in first run or one may not get it for ages even using miner lck

Reunegade
07-01-2013, 07:02 AM
I actually believe you are mistaken... Considering there are four variants of the four pinks the queen drops, this is 16 possible pink drops.

If you are happy with any napalm, this means you are happy with 4 of the 16 possible pinks. 4 : 16 = 1 : 4

Unless I am insane, this means that if you don't care what napalm you get, you're still left with the 1:4 ratio, leaving the 10%/4 accurate.



Since you're happy with any napalm which you've given to represent 1, but you're counting each other variant of the pinks as 1, you're basically saying that 1=4. (1, being the number you've chosen to represent the napalm itself, but you've also said it is representing all the variants of the napalm, because you don't care which one you get.)

Therein, lies the error, I think.
I like the way you think, but I still believe my statement is true. Let me elaborate: If you could care less about what variant of Napalm you get, you also have to add in the OTHER variants of the other weapons, because you don't want those. So four variants, multiplied by three weapons, plus the one that represents the Napalm, is 13. Which is a less than 1% chance of getting a Napalm with Miner's Luck.

FluidShot
07-01-2013, 09:24 AM
I like the way you think, but I still believe my statement is true. Let me elaborate: If you could care less about what variant of Napalm you get, you also have to add in the OTHER variants of the other weapons, because you don't want those. So four variants, multiplied by three weapons, plus the one that represents the Napalm, is 13. Which is a less than 1% chance of getting a Napalm with Miner's Luck.

Hmm. Now that you explained it, I can see your logic.

However, the part that I'm having trouble with is lets say b = bioneural, f = fused, d = dark-matter, and p = primed.

____________________(Flux Cannon)__(Chrome Phoenix)_(Phase)
You were saying it was b + f + d + p + b + f + d + p + b + f + d + p + any napalm. Where I'm having trouble is you have the value 1 representing one value (variant) in the beginning of the equation, but then you have it representing any napalm, so four different values (variants) at the end of the equation.

The equation is for drops, so i think it would have to be the above formula, with the 1 for napalm actually being 1(b + f + d + p) because although you don't care, there are still four possible napalm drops, albeit you want them all.

Another way I thought if it was actually laying out the possible drops. (using the letters from above.)

b,f,d,p, b,f,d,p, b,f,d,p, b,f,d,p
unhappy unhappy unhappy happy
If you're happy with any napalm, you're happy with a quarter of drops. You're happy with 1/4 of the drops. Since the drop rate is the same for all the pinks, you should get a napalm 4:16 times you get a pink = 1:4.

Also imagine a spinning wheel game-show style thing (sorry for the long post, I'm just free-associating what's running through my head). If you're happy with a quarter of the options on the wheel, then you have a 1:4 chance of being happy when it's spun. If you're happy with a whole quarter of it (four sections in the quarter for each variant), you can't count that probability as the same as one of the small sections which represents one variant. There's 16 sections, so the probability of hitting one is 1/16. You like any napalm, so that is 1/16 * 4 = 1/4.

Dragoonclaws
08-08-2013, 12:18 AM
Napalm is still on. I just want to destroy all rumors:

1- you can still go to deep hive by killing queen first or in any order, but you'll have to destroy all other monsters before.

2- opening boxes dont change your chances to go to deep hive

3- Napalm is like all rares, it is a random drop, nothing special about dropping chances

4- You can get Napalm without enhancers

5- Napalm is known to be a drop from Queen vular at deep hive. Im not sure if it can be dropped by infested lair's queen.

6- Napalm can be dropped even if skills are used.

Little advice:
- try soloing the queen
- use your best weapon, i do think that the harder you hit, better are your chances to get napalm. TBH my best drops always happen when i m high leveled (using more powerfull weapons, obviously doing more damage and killing faster)
- avoid spending plats for luck enhancers, they dont give that much more luck, re rolls always bring the same noob purple drops at hive... Talking about enhancers, buy the ones with credits at guildhall, they arr discount and cost less
- while doing hive runs, using napalm at first part saves time and avoids you to get all those noob drops... Actually it destroys the eggs and auto kills the vulars in the eggs. If you want free credits, avoid using napalm...
- hive is good place to farm stims

At my 5th farming run, I got my fused napalm by soloing a queen at deep hive during double damage weekend, i used some skills. Got lvl35-45 teammates and im 50. I did 100s of runs, but no more napalm... Im still on it

I hope this may help you... And stop booting for opening boxes or use of skills, because it really has nothing to do with that... I did those runs trying all possibilities and they are true because they did happened.

Dragoonclaws

Dragoonclaws
08-08-2013, 12:25 AM
Also imagine a spinning wheel game-show style thing (sorry for the long post, I'm just free-associating what's running through my head). If you're happy with a quarter of the options on the wheel, then you have a 1:4 chance of being happy when it's spun. If you're happy with a whole quarter of it (four sections in the quarter for each variant), you can't count that probability as the same as one of the small sections which represents one variant. There's 16 sections, so the probability of hitting one is 1/16. You like any napalm, so that is 1/16 * 4 = 1/4.

He is right. The thing about this is to get a pink drop, then you have a 1/4 chance to get napalm.
Getting a pink drop at hive is merely 1/1000 or more or even less...

Keep it up!!! You ll get what you want if you keep working on it. I bet you ll choke when you see pink drop.

Tbh, since i got mine, i choke on any carbine drops
Purple? Idc, i just choke lol

Conquered
08-08-2013, 04:14 AM
Buy Miners Luck, Farm with Lv50's (Lv40+ only) Kill all mobs and boss and you open chest if you wanted to the pink will still drop. Ive Experience Less than 1Minute 30 Seconds killing already the boss and died.
Just my tip :)

Dragoonclaws
08-11-2013, 12:42 AM
I confirm that napalm still drops, i got mine during the double damage weekend.

Faliziaga
08-11-2013, 01:46 AM
I'm up for Hive runs, I'm lv46 and can buy enhancer. PM me on forum for runs:loyal:

Conquered
08-11-2013, 03:44 AM
I'm up for Hive runs, I'm lv46 and can buy enhancer. PM me on forum for runs:loyal:

Gl bro.

Gskip17
08-14-2013, 08:40 PM
Woah... Not at all. Miners luck ensures that 100% of the drops you get, are re-rolled.

How I think this works is if an item is re-rolled, it will increase in rarity by one category. Meaning, if you drop a green, and you re-roll on the item, it will turn into an epic item.

So with regards to the queen, which drops greens ~80% of the time, and you have miners luck, you will get an epic drop.

That ~20% that is left is split between uncommon's and epics (with negligible chance of no-enhancer pink drop) . So let's say it is ~10% each. This leaves us with a ~10% chance that without the Miner's Luck, you will drop an epic. With Miner's Luck, this will re-roll into a legendary. Overall, this gives us a ~10% chance of getting a legendary.

Now, the Queen drops the legendarys: Chrome Phoenix, Flux Cannon, Phase Injectors, and Napalms. Each of these has four variants (bioneural, fused, dark-matter, and primed), that can drop. This gives us 16 possible legendaries the hive queen can drop. However, if you aren't concerned about which type of napalm, we can forget the variant part.

So, if you want a napalm to drop, even with Miner's luck, your chance is ~10%/4. Four, for the Chrome, Flux, Phase, or Napalms.

Overall, this is ~2% chance, with Miner's Luck, of a napalm dropping. So sorry, Miner's Luck does not guarantee a napalm drop.

Sorry for the long-winded answer. None of these percentages are actually tested, they are just guesses, so my actual percentage answers could be way off.




Okay guys. Here is why I do not think it drops anymore.

I used 2 Miner's Luck enhancers and I received 5 purple drops (pre re-roll), however they were re-rolled into ANOTHER PURPLE weapon. I was very confused. I started asking around and I found a lot of other players with the same problem.

Either this is a bug or it does not drop anymore. I took screenshots on my phone but I am too lazy to post them right now..

Anyone else on the forum have the same problem?

FluidShot
08-15-2013, 12:04 AM
Okay guys. Here is why I do not think it drops anymore.

I used 2 Miner's Luck enhancers and I received 5 purple drops (pre re-roll), however they were re-rolled into ANOTHER PURPLE weapon. I was very confused. I started asking around and I found a lot of other players with the same problem.

Either this is a bug or it does not drop anymore. I took screenshots on my phone but I am too lazy to post them right now..

Anyone else on the forum have the same problem?

Hmm. Then my best guest would be that the reroll is not quite as simple as a category bump. If it does not work that way, then I have no idea what kind of formula STG uses to determine rerolls.

Faliziaga
08-15-2013, 01:21 AM
Okay guys. Here is why I do not think it drops anymore.

I used 2 Miner's Luck enhancers and I received 5 purple drops (pre re-roll), however they were re-rolled into ANOTHER PURPLE weapon. I was very confused. I started asking around and I found a lot of other players with the same problem.

Either this is a bug or it does not drop anymore. I took screenshots on my phone but I am too lazy to post them right now..

Anyone else on the forum have the same problem?
How do you know the items you rolled for before it says "you re-rolled"?




37860

Gskip17
08-15-2013, 06:51 AM
How do you know the items you rolled for before it says "you re-rolled"?




37860



Wait you are right it doesnt say what you initially receive. Nvm my bad.

oraweun
12-14-2013, 03:29 PM
hey zen, can you please help me farm a bit? IGN: ORAWEUN, ORAWEON, ANAKRAVY

Conquered
12-14-2013, 05:26 PM
Sure, but soon.

sasukessj2
12-19-2013, 09:04 PM
I was able to get a naplam with daily enhancer on like 2 runs

Marcusw
12-26-2013, 11:08 AM
Lol been farming for nap since i was lv 34,after a whole year still cant get a nap. Talking bout luck eh,dont have any of em at my side even with enchancer.So i decided to give up. Wasted lots of time farming for nap