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Spyce
05-26-2013, 01:52 PM
Anyone help L.50 Hate Hax Bear?
Builds, tips, suggestions etc.


Thanks!

-Vacoule

Is bear the worst class at 50? Thats why only 3 people including me are using it.

Chickenrunnn
05-26-2013, 02:00 PM
Hello!

I have made a guide about builts in pvp!

Here are the 2 builts extracted from it :

Bears:

LvL50 Sentinel bear:

Base points : 108 Str, rest dex
Skills points : 1 vengeful, 1 crippling, 1 SmS, 5 crushing blow, 6 stomp, 6 beckon, 6 hell scream, 6 rage, 6 iron, 6 evade, 5 taunt.
Items : Death axe set + dodging ring
Combo : Rage, iron, evade, taunt, reckon hellscream, crush(if he is close) stomp SmS, slashes, restore
Tips : be close from a wall when u full the guy, like it he will be stuck on it and u will be able to use ur slashes lol
Since you're using ShotGun, and since it has a veryyyy good range, try to kite your opponent.. if he comes too close, use the combo above



LvL51 Fury or Hate bear (Vvatermelon's build) :

Base points : 108 Str, rest dex
Skills points : 1 vengeful, 1 crippling, 1 SmS, 5 crushing blow, 6 stomp, 6 beckon, 6 hell scream, 6 rage, 6 iron, 6 evade, 6 taunt.
Items : Fury sword set lvl51 or Hate hax set lvl50 + dodging ring
Combo : Rage, iron, evade, taunt, reckon hellscream, crush(if he is close) stomp SmS, slashes, restore
Tips : be close from a wall when u full the guy, like it he will be stuck on it and u will be able to use ur slashes lol

The link to the guide is in my signature, or just click here : http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?52628-The-mega-GUIDE-PvP-Gears-Skills-tips-for-all-LvLs

:D enjoy ^^

KingFu
05-26-2013, 02:12 PM
Hello!

I have made a guide about builts in pvp!

Here are the 2 builts extracted from it :

Bears:

LvL51 Fury or Hate bear (Vvatermelon's build) :

Base points : 108 Str, rest dex
Skills points : 1 vengeful, 1 crippling, 1 SmS, 5 crushing blow, 6 stomp, 6 beckon, 6 hell scream, 6 rage, 6 iron, 6 evade, 6 taunt.
Items : Fury sword set lvl51 or Hate hax set lvl50 + dodging ring
Combo : Rage, iron, evade, taunt, reckon hellscream, crush(if he is close) stomp SmS, slashes, restore
Tips : be close from a wall when u full the guy, like it he will be stuck on it and u will be able to use ur slashes lol

The link to the guide is in my signature, or just click here : http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?52628-The-mega-GUIDE-PvP-Gears-Skills-tips-for-all-LvLs

:D enjoy ^^

You're far better off having 6 CB and no crippling at all. Crippling has a 6 second cool down and 3m range, making it the most useless slash. Having max CB is gonna be a way better build.

Also, rift is better for bear, plain and simple.

Spyce
05-26-2013, 04:53 PM
You're far better off having 6 CB and no crippling at all. Crippling has a 6 second cool down and 3m range, making it the most useless slash. Having max CB is gonna be a way better build.

Also, rift is better for bear, plain and simple.

You're saying Rift beats Hate?

Xbuddyjosh
05-26-2013, 05:09 PM
Yes the hax has such low dmg

Spyce
05-26-2013, 05:38 PM
Yes the hax has such low dmg

I've seen the stats on both.
Hate is better in my opinion.

Argyros
05-26-2013, 05:53 PM
Edit- sec please. I forgot about set bonuses.

KingFu
05-26-2013, 06:10 PM
I will not give my reasoning as I was sworn to silence, but, you're all wrong^

MightyMicah
05-26-2013, 06:47 PM
I will not give my reasoning as I was sworn to silence, but, you're all wrong^

I actually agree with you that rift is better. I won't give my reasoning either but let's just say that it has to do with the expensive price of hate...*cough* *cough*

Just kidding, but yeah I really do agree. In my experience with level 50 bears rift is much more successful.

Noi`ya
05-26-2013, 06:54 PM
I've seen the stats on both.
Hate is better in my opinion.

I know! Who needs twenty skill damage and a lifesteal procing sword when you could be black!

KingFu
05-26-2013, 07:01 PM
I know! Who needs twenty skill damage and a lifesteal procing sword when you could be black!

Lol^

Caiahar
05-26-2013, 07:32 PM
I've seen the stats on both.
Hate is better in my opinion.

I know! Who needs twenty skill damage and a lifesteal procing sword when you could be black!
Almost saw that as racist :/

Zeus
05-26-2013, 07:34 PM
I know! Who needs twenty skill damage and a lifesteal procing sword when you could be black!

That execute proc is pretty gnarly though. Although I would have to agree Rift is better.

General rule: when an oldie such as godly Mysticaldream is telling you something is better, you graciously drop to your knees, kiss his toes and thank him for his words of wisdom. They're telling you the advice for a reason, use it.

Zeus
05-26-2013, 07:35 PM
Almost saw that as racist :/

I'm assuming you think the Geisha face on elves is racist towards Indians as well? ;)

KingFu
05-26-2013, 07:48 PM
That execute proc is pretty gnarly though. Although I would have to agree Rift is better.

General rule: when an oldie such as godly Mysticaldream is telling you something is better, you graciously drop to your knees, kiss his toes and thank him for his words of wisdom. They're telling you the advice for a reason, use it.

Amen!

Zeus
05-26-2013, 07:51 PM
Amen!

Just one question, Dahveed? Why would somebody godly use Amen? ;)

MightyMicah
05-26-2013, 08:00 PM
Just one question, Dahveed? Why would somebody godly use Amen? ;)

Jesus said Amen ;)

KingFu
05-26-2013, 08:06 PM
Just one question, Dahveed? Why would somebody godly use Amen? ;)

Why would someone question someone godly?

Idk

CrimsonTider
05-26-2013, 09:12 PM
That execute proc is pretty gnarly though. Although I would have to agree Rift is better.

General rule: when an oldie such as godly Mysticaldream is telling you something is better, you graciously drop to your knees, kiss his toes and thank him for his words of wisdom. They're telling you the advice for a reason, use it.


Amen!

OMG! Shut the front door!

Caiahar
05-26-2013, 09:18 PM
That execute proc is pretty gnarly though. Although I would have to agree Rift is better.

General rule: when an oldie such as godly Mysticaldream is telling you something is better, you graciously drop to your knees, kiss his toes and thank him for his words of wisdom. They're telling you the advice for a reason, use it.


Amen!

OMG! Shut the front door!
Thanks guys...for making me laugh xD
*shuts side door* wait what?

Zeus
05-26-2013, 09:21 PM
OMG! Shut the front door!

Okay, I realize it's quite the effort for an old man to do it himself. ;)

Rot
05-26-2013, 09:26 PM
I find Sentinel Talon bears better than Void birds! :)

CrimsonTider
05-26-2013, 09:29 PM
Okay, I realize it's quite the effort for an old man to do it himself. ;)

Most young'uns have to be told. Always letting all the cold/warm air out. ;)

Zeus
05-26-2013, 09:37 PM
Most young'uns have to be told. Always letting all the cold/warm air out. ;)

I prefer to be someone that makes my own mistakes and learns from them that way I can be just like all the other old men telling the young'uns what to do. ;)

CrimsonTider
05-26-2013, 09:46 PM
I prefer to be someone that makes my own mistakes and learns from them that way I can be just like all the other old men telling the young'uns what to do. ;)

May God grant you strength on your journey.

Caiahar
05-26-2013, 10:00 PM
Okay, I realize it's quite the effort for an old man to do it himself. ;)

Most young'uns have to be told. Always letting all the cold/warm air out. ;)
Now that you mention it...last winter I always forgot to close the door after playing outside in the snow.
*facepalm* :P

Zeus
05-26-2013, 10:32 PM
May God grant you strength on your journey.

I'm holding off asking until I'm an old man asking people to shut front doors. ;)

Hehe! <3

Reunegade
05-27-2013, 08:25 AM
Use sentinel talon/shotgun (i use shotgun but IMO talon is better), pure dex and max everything except 5 beckon 5 stomp 0 restore 1 on all slashes (if you're 51 (doubt it) use pink reaper, royal sewer armor, fury shield, royal sewer helmet and add one into stomp)

Spyce
05-27-2013, 08:34 AM
Use sentinel talon/shotgun (i use shotgun but IMO talon is better), pure dex and max everything except 5 beckon 5 stomp 0 restore 1 on all slashes (if you're 51 (doubt it) use pink reaper, royal sewer armor, fury shield, royal sewer helmet and add one into stomp)

Thanks Reun!
I've tried countless hours and I can't seem to find a shotgun set.

floats
05-27-2013, 08:43 AM
one question : are hate burds good? did they stand a chance against shotty burds? c: if so how?

Spyce
05-27-2013, 08:45 AM
one question : are hate burds good? did they stand a chance against shotty burds? c: if so how?

No.
A Shotgun bird could easily kite a hate bird.

Reunegade
05-27-2013, 08:56 AM
Thanks Reun!
I've tried countless hours and I can't seem to find a shotgun set.

I'll sell you mine for a good price

Spyce
05-27-2013, 08:58 AM
I'll sell you mine for a good price

Meet me in-game narb.

MightyMicah
05-27-2013, 09:29 AM
No.
A Shotgun bird could easily kite a hate bird.

Um I have to agree, but don't underestimate hate birds. If a good warbird came along I'd wager he could whoop some tail.

Spyce
05-27-2013, 09:31 AM
Um I have to agree, but don't underestimate hate birds. If a good warbird came along I'd wager he could whoop some tail.

Never in my entire career of playing PL have I seen a 50 hate bird.
Can someone test them and post there results?

Reunegade
05-27-2013, 09:35 AM
gimme hate set and ill try something (brace for major Reunpowa)

Spyce
05-27-2013, 09:36 AM
gimme hate set and ill try something (brace for major Reunpowa)

Give me shotgun.

MightyMicah
05-27-2013, 09:38 AM
Never in my entire career of playing PL have I seen a 50 hate bird.
Can someone test them and post there results?

Never? How long have you played? I can remember getting my butt whooped by a particularly good hate bird. I'll have to make one fight you ;)

Reunegade
05-27-2013, 09:39 AM
Never? How long have you played? I can remember getting my butt whooped by a particularly good hate bird. I'll have to make one fight you ;)

Rift birds do slightly better IMO. I've seen a couple so far, and they aren't that bad.

Spyce
05-27-2013, 09:41 AM
Never? How long have you played? I can remember getting my butt whooped by a particularly good hate bird. I'll have to make one fight you ;)

I've done 50 before for about 7 months.
Never go on it until now.
Bring it on Micah!
:)

Reunegade
05-27-2013, 09:42 AM
I've done 50 before for about 7 months.
Never go on it until now.
Bring it on Micah!
:)
Lies. You don't even have a 50. :D

Spyce
05-27-2013, 09:43 AM
Lies. You don't even have a 50. :D

Before you met me bro.
I stayed at 50 after the Mount Fang expansion and PvPed with Mystery like a newb.
Deleted him a while back.
Vacoule is lvling to 50.

Reunegade
05-27-2013, 09:45 AM
Before you met me bro.
I stayed at 50 after the Mount Fang expansion and PvPed with Mystery like a newb.

I remember when I met you! I PMed you and asked if you could level me to level 70. you were so nice back then :) Wait wasn't that like a week ago

Spyce
05-27-2013, 09:47 AM
I remember when I met you! I PMed you and asked if you could level me to level 70. you were so nice back then :) Wait wasn't that like a week ago

Lol.
It was WAY longer than a week.

Are you saying I'm not nice right now?
Bully.

Spyce
05-27-2013, 09:47 AM
Also you need to work on your math.
16-15 does not equal 365.

Reunegade
05-27-2013, 09:49 AM
I said 362. -.-

Spyce
05-27-2013, 09:50 AM
I said 362. -.-

My bad.
I believe the answer is simply 1.

Reunegade
05-27-2013, 09:52 AM
My bad.
I believe the answer is simply 1.

Alright, you need a math lesson? I think you failed school. 16-15=1 hey look it's summer who needs school in the summer 362 bes number yay

Spyce
05-27-2013, 09:55 AM
Alright, you need a math lesson? I think you failed school. 16-15=1 hey look it's summer who needs school in the summer 362 bes number yay

Bes mathematical number is 1337.

Reunegade
05-27-2013, 09:58 AM
Bes mathematical number is 1337.

I see how you failed Math. Anyways back on topic, I bes srry Vohcab.

Reunegade
05-27-2013, 09:59 AM
Oh the olden days when I had that as my sig. Now i have phat polar bears.

Spyce
05-27-2013, 10:00 AM
I see how you failed Math. Anyways back on topic, I bes srry Vohcab.

You guys should 1 v 1.
Reun would win because Kamen "lost" to Marc.
Lmao.

Reunegade
05-27-2013, 10:02 AM
Reun-The Bes and the Godly

Thanks for giving me a new idea Internal, I'll give you a title too.


InternalNinja-Drinking Water since 2013

Spyce
05-27-2013, 10:04 AM
Reun-The Bes and the Godly

Thanks for giving me a new idea Internal, I'll give you a title too.


InternalNinja-Drinking Water since 2013

Ninja'd is better.

Caiahar
05-27-2013, 10:26 AM
My bad.
I believe the answer is simply 1.

Alright, you need a math lesson? I think you failed school. 16-15=1 hey look it's summer who needs school in the summer 362 bes number yay
I have school in summer...only 1 week summer break.
My parents must really want me to learn.
My grades arent bad >_> and I going to school in summer.

Reunegade
05-27-2013, 10:37 AM
Thanks guys...for making me laugh xD
*shuts side door* wait what?


I have school in summer...only 1 week summer break.
My parents must really want me to learn.
My grades arent bad >_> and I going to school in summer.
That sucks man :/

Spyce
05-27-2013, 10:43 AM
I have school in summer...only 1 week summer break.
My parents must really want me to learn.
My grades arent bad >_> and I going to school in summer.

Shadow better be getting those A+s.

OvigorothO
05-27-2013, 11:01 AM
That execute proc is pretty gnarly though. Although I would have to agree Rift is better.

General rule: when an oldie such as godly Mysticaldream is telling you something is better, you graciously drop to your knees, kiss his toes and thank him for his words of wisdom. They're telling you the advice for a reason, use it.

so how about rift vs cyber rift? Best part is that its free ;)

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

Xbuddyjosh
05-27-2013, 11:30 AM
Ahhhh, a good, constructive thread :)

Xbuddyjosh
05-27-2013, 11:33 AM
Reun-The Bes and the Godly

Thanks for giving me a new idea Internal, I'll give you a title too.


InternalNinja-Drinking Water since 2013

Ur next ign: besgodly (good thing I took it)

MysticLegend97
05-27-2013, 11:56 AM
so how about rift vs cyber rift? Best part is that its free ;)

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

Rift > Cyber in EVERY category except 3 dps, and rift is only like 120k cs. You can get for 60-80k easy. IMO Rift is best set for 50 also.

Zerious
05-27-2013, 02:44 PM
*cough* cyber set beast *cough*

MysticLegend97
05-27-2013, 02:48 PM
*cough* cyber set beast *cough*
I'm making a 50 bear atm. Once I get there we'll test which is better ;)

Spyce
05-27-2013, 03:03 PM
Rift is for the poorer people.
I like Hate beecause it looks cool.

KingFu
05-27-2013, 03:05 PM
*cough* cyber set beast *cough*

You talking because the execution proc? Rift's proc is better, has the opportunity to take effect more often.


Rift is for the poorer people.
I like Hate beecause it looks cool.

Ya, I bet it looks cool on the ground of forest fight after a rift bear kills you.

Spyce
05-27-2013, 03:10 PM
You talking because the execution proc? Rift's proc is better, has the opportunity to take effect more often.



Ya, I bet it looks cool on the ground of forest fight after a rift bear kills you.

I'll get both it pleasures you.
Rift > Hate (Stats)
Hate > Rift (Looks)

KingFu
05-27-2013, 03:10 PM
I'll get both it pleasures you.
Rift > Hate (Stats)
Hate > Rift (Looks)

Fair enough.

Hate + Outlaw Cowboy Hat + Gratitude Shield = proest.

CrimsonTider
05-27-2013, 03:28 PM
You talking because the execution proc? Rift's proc is better, has the opportunity to take effect more often.



Ya, I bet it looks cool on the ground of forest fight after a rift bear kills you.

-.-

The eye is always watching.

KingFu
05-27-2013, 03:32 PM
-.-

The eye is always watching.

But on the other hand, cyber looks cooler, so, use that. I'm sure you'll get bonus points for looking better than rift set.

Argyros
05-27-2013, 03:41 PM
I'll get both it pleasures you.
Rift > Hate (Stats)
Hate > Rift (Looks)

Fair enough.

Hate + Outlaw Cowboy Hat + Gratitude Shield = proest.

Hate+onyx ocd*arcane shield or grat shield+ bat wings= epicness

Spyce
05-27-2013, 05:42 PM
Fair enough.

Hate + Outlaw Cowboy Hat + Gratitude Shield = proest.

To bad I don't have a gratitude shield.

Caiahar
05-27-2013, 05:46 PM
Fair enough.

Hate + Outlaw Cowboy Hat + Gratitude Shield = proest.

To bad I don't have a gratitude shield.
Wear em just for looks. Right before a match switch to rift.

Spyce
05-27-2013, 05:47 PM
Wear em just for looks. Right before a match switch to rift.

Planning to do that.
Shadow what lvl is your bird at?

Caiahar
05-27-2013, 05:49 PM
Wear em just for looks. Right before a match switch to rift.

Planning to do that.
Shadow what lvl is your bird at?
Bleh...like 15...he keeps Getting these oh so annoying 1.5 armor blessings.

MysticLegend97
05-27-2013, 05:52 PM
Lol I'm not even waiting for good bless. MAZE HURR I COME

Swimmingstar
05-27-2013, 05:56 PM
Rift > Cyber in EVERY category except 3 dps, and rift is only like 120k cs. You can get for 60-80k easy. IMO Rift is best set for 50 also.

You forgot the looks! I believe that is a main reason why many people play PL. :)

CrimsonTider
05-27-2013, 06:04 PM
Onyx OCD Helm + Shotty Set + Phoenix Wings + Smoke= Wow!

Silver OCD Helm + Cyber Rift Set + Hardlight Shield + Patriot = GG. :)

Caiahar
05-27-2013, 06:05 PM
Lol I'm not even waiting for good bless. MAZE HURR I COME
:( I aint no plat user.
Crim, please show some pics? :D I dont have them tho.

CrimsonTider
05-27-2013, 06:08 PM
:( I aint no plat user.
Crim, please show some pics? :D I dont have them tho.

Ask and ye shall receive...

31463

31464

No drooling on the screen please. ;)

KingFu
05-27-2013, 08:51 PM
You forgot the looks! I believe that is a main reason why many people play PL. :)

No.

Reunegade
05-27-2013, 08:53 PM
No.
Then what's the point of vanities?

Spyce
05-27-2013, 08:59 PM
Ask and ye shall receive...

31463

31464

No drooling on the screen please. ;)

Looking smexy.

KingFu
05-27-2013, 09:00 PM
Then what's the point of vanities?

Not the sole purpose of playing PL. Never said it wasn't a piece of the game.

Reunegade
05-27-2013, 09:01 PM
Looking smexy.

You were talking about me, right? :D

Spyce
05-27-2013, 09:02 PM
You were talking about me, right? :D

No doubt.

Reunegade
05-27-2013, 09:04 PM
No doubt.

Thx




Y u no put "InternalNinja-Drinking Water Since 2013" in your sig

Spyce
05-27-2013, 09:09 PM
Thx




Y u no put "InternalNinja-Drinking Water Since 2013" in your sig

I r pro now.
Look at my signature.

Reunegade
05-27-2013, 09:11 PM
I r pro now.
Look at my signature.
That sig is so 2 seconds ago you need a new one

Spyce
05-27-2013, 09:12 PM
That sig is so 2 seconds ago you need a new one

Totally.
It's outdated by 2 WHOLE SECONDS.

Reunegade
05-27-2013, 09:14 PM
Thanks guys...for making me laugh xD
*shuts side door* wait what?


Totally.
It's outdated by 2 WHOLE SECONDS.
3 now



See how time runs

Reunegade
05-27-2013, 09:14 PM
What the heck stop quoting shadowstar Sts is trolling me

Zerious
05-27-2013, 09:33 PM
You talking because the execution proc? Rift's proc is better, has the opportunity to take effect more often.

If you don't get kited by 13m range :rolleyes:

Caiahar
05-27-2013, 09:40 PM
What the heck stop quoting shadowstar Sts is trolling me
I can see this as a few ways:

What the heck, stop quoting, shadowstar Sts is trolling me
Or

What the heck, stop quoting shadowstar, Sts is trolling me
Or

What the heck, stop quoting, shadowstar, Sts is trolling me

KingFu
05-27-2013, 09:59 PM
If you don't get kited by 13m range :rolleyes:

In which case neither can save you :p

Zerious
05-28-2013, 12:49 AM
In which case neither can save you :p

I'm the 13m.... me dun see hao

Spyce
05-28-2013, 06:44 PM
What are better.
Hate Bears or Death Shotgun Bears?

Zerious
05-29-2013, 03:39 PM
What are better.
Hate Bears or Death Shotgun Bears?
haters must be shot

Reunegade
05-29-2013, 04:40 PM
haters must be shot

By talons

Spyce
05-29-2013, 06:25 PM
By talons

So.
Shotgun or Talon?

Reunegade
05-29-2013, 06:29 PM
So.
Shotgun or Talon?

I use talon vs mage. You need that dodge and armor. If you are looking for a quick kill, then use shotgun. Overkill let me borrow his talon.

Spyce
05-29-2013, 06:30 PM
I use talon vs mage. You need that dodge and armor. If you are looking for a quick kill, then use shotgun. Overkill let me borrow his talon.

Lawl.
Aren't you mad at him for what he said to you earlier?
I would be.

Reunegade
05-29-2013, 06:32 PM
Lawl.
Aren't you mad at him for what he said to you earlier?
I would be.

Didn't I tell you it was a joke?

Spyce
05-29-2013, 06:34 PM
Didn't I tell you it was a joke?

Thought he was for real lawl.

Reunegade
05-29-2013, 06:42 PM
Thought he was for real lawl.
._.

Spyce
05-29-2013, 06:43 PM
._.

You're not so it wasn't true.
Gg Charlie.

Reunegade
05-29-2013, 06:44 PM
You're not so it wasn't true.
Gg Charlie.

It's Bes ._.

Spyce
05-29-2013, 06:47 PM
It's Bes ._.

Kk.