L16 Rhino Help Please!

Hey guys :o I just made a 16 rhino, and I just have a few problems .-.

#1. How much of a difference does 10 More armor do? I'm deciding between 3 Guardian (10 Armor, 3 Dodge) or 3 Redemption. (I believe 15 more dmg than 1.) I know 10 armor does make a difference, yet how much of a difference?

#2. Redemption. What is the healing power of 1 Redemption vs. 3 Redemption? Is it enough to make a big difference? If so I'll obviously try it out, but I can't decide on it >.>

#3. My skill build. It's no secret, so I just wanna see if it sounds correct or not, or if anyone has even had any experience with L16 Rhino :P

6 Vital Force
3 Guardian
1 Charge
1 Redemption
4 Heal

Attributes-

7 Str
22 Int
57 Dex (I think)

I'm using L15 Pink Paw/Bracer, and Expert's armor. All help is appreciated, I know combos perfectly and please don't tell me to go to L20, as I already have a L20 and I'm doing 16. ;) I also do not plan on buying the L10 Paladin 3 Piece Plat Pack. Thanks again! :)

#1+2 Redemption heals damage x2 if used before charge. So if lvl 3 has 15 more damage than lvl 1, then it would heal 30 more HP. 10 armor is a big deal especially since you are dex/int. Bears use talons which has .6 speed. That means if you have 10 more armor, you are taking ~15 less damage a sec which is far better than 3 redemp.

Your skill build + attributes look fine, might want to do 11 int and rest dex with artisan so you don't miss redemption(vs bears+birds only).

Based off my 15 pally ^_^

Stats: 22 str, rest dex.

Gear: l15 experts armor, l10 dex pack helm and wing, l15 paw.

Skills: 2 heal, 5 guardian, 6 vital force, 1 charge, 1 redemption.

Combo: vital force, guardian, charge, redemption, heal when needed.

I based this off my l18 rhino which used:

Stats: 22 str, rest dex.

Gear: l15 experts leather, l10 dex plat pack wing and helm, l15 paw.

Skills: 6 guardian, 6 vital force, 1 charge, 1 redemption, 1 tempest, 2 heal.

Combo: vital force, guardian, charge, redemption, tempest, heal when needed.

In case you decide to go higher than 16 :) 18 rhino can beat 20 str pack rhinos by kiting then while their charge is recharging.
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Originally Posted by IGN Storm

#1+2 Redemption heals damage x2 if used before charge. So if lvl 3 has 15 more damage than lvl 1, then it would heal 30 more HP. 10 armor is a big deal especially since you are dex/int. Bears use talons which has .6 speed. That means if you have 10 more armor, you are taking ~15 less damage a sec which is far better than 3 redemp.

Your skill build + attributes look fine, might want to do 11 int and rest dex with artisan so you don't miss redemption(vs bears+birds only).

Based off my 15 pally ^_^

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Thank you :) I'm using 22 int for a regen loadout. (Alchemist) Even with experts on, I still end up with 110 hit% so I'm fine with that. Also, who's your 15? :o

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Originally Posted by TheScaryBeary

Stats: 22 str, rest dex.

Gear: l15 experts armor, l10 dex pack helm and wing, l15 paw.

Skills: 2 heal, 5 guardian, 6 vital force, 1 charge, 1 redemption.

Combo: vital force, guardian, charge, redemption, heal when needed.

I based this off my l18 rhino which used:

Stats: 22 str, rest dex.

Gear: l15 experts leather, l10 dex plat pack wing and helm, l15 paw.

Skills: 6 guardian, 6 vital force, 1 charge, 1 redemption, 1 tempest, 2 heal.

Combo: vital force, guardian, charge, redemption, tempest, heal when needed.

In case you decide to go higher than 16 :) 18 rhino can beat 20 str pack rhinos by kiting then while their charge is recharging.
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What's the advantage of 22 str? You're not using any str gear :P Plus, my extra int adds to my healing/redemption power, so I think that's better. You also missed the fact of 5 int for L15 paw ;) And have you actually been successful with 2 Heal? It seems to not "get the job done" for me, so I would think it wouldn't be as good >.> Thanks again :D

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Originally Posted by Trenton

What's the advantage of 22 str? You're not using any str gear :P Plus, my extra int adds to my healing/redemption power, so I think that's better. You also missed the fact of 5 int for L15 paw ;) And have you actually been successful with 2 Heal? It seems to not "get the job done" for me, so I would think it wouldn't be as good >.> Thanks again :D

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I used str instead of int because just that little bit of extra health still helps. Int I tried and it makes you more squishy and die quicker. With experts I still had enough mana regen to fight without running out. And yes I did forget the 5 int for the paw :p. Also yes, when I had an 18 rhino 2 heal was enough with all that regen it still gives along with the heal. With 2 heal it allowed higher buffs to be able to do more damage and have higher dodge and armor.


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Originally Posted by Trenton

Thank you :) I'm using 22 int for a regen loadout. (Alchemist) Even with experts on, I still end up with 110 hit% so I'm fine with that. Also, who's your 15? :o

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Just watch out for Stomp+HS, both reduces hit by 30 :0. My rhino was iihornyii but deleted since I have less than a 2.0 due to fbow bears. Regret that now >_<

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Originally Posted by TheScaryBeary

I used str instead of int because just that little bit of extra health still helps. Int I tried and it makes you more squishy and die quicker. With experts I still had enough mana regen to fight without running out. And yes I did forget the 5 int for the paw :p. Also yes, when I had an 18 rhino 2 heal was enough with all that regen it still gives along with the heal. With 2 heal it allowed higher buffs to be able to do more damage and have higher dodge and armor.


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I'm pretty sure it's 2 Str= 1 Health, right? That'd only be 11 more health, no? D:

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Originally Posted by IGN Storm

Just watch out for Stomp+HS, both reduces hit by 30 :0. My rhino was iihornyii but deleted since I have less than a 2.0 due to fbow bears. Regret that now >_<

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Stomp has debuff too? -_- And can you heal out of HS debuff or not?

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I'm pretty sure it's 2 Str= 1 Health, right? That'd only be 11 more health, no? D:

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11 extra health is better than no extra health?


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11 extra health is better than no extra health?


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I'm just saying that I'd rather have 11 extra healing power, and 6 extra damage with redemption than 11 health. :P That's pretty much one auto from a raged bear.

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Stomp has debuff too? -_- And can you heal out of HS debuff or not?

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Forgot Rhinos had heal :p and yes stomp is -30% hit

Trenton try using this build
6heal 6vital 1 guard 1 charge 1 red

Many people will probably flame me for this but I think I build works great
Since you have max heal, you get big heals and the big h/s
The 1 guard is for you to stop stuns and gives u a little armor boost. Also the rest are just basics for the combo.

Also, at scarybeary: that build worked really well before the damage nerf. I don't know about that now because bears still have a lot of damage and you might not be able to heal out of it even with max guardian( since it runs out a bit quick)

Trenton try using this build

6heal 6vital 1 guard 1 charge 1 red



Many people will probably flame me for this but I think I build works great

Since you have max heal, you get big heals and the big h/s

The 1 guard is for you to stop stuns and gives u a little armor boost. Also the rest are just basics for the combo.



Also, at scarybeary: that build worked really well before the damage nerf. I don't know about that now because bears still have a lot of damage and you might not be able to heal out of it even with max guardian( since it runs out a bit quick). That us exactly te same build i use :) and i never got flamed! Combine it with paw and bracer and your good :D add me ! : Velqciraptor

Sorry i needed to copy it because i didnt know how i do it in another way ^_^ @Rescind

Looks much nicer than mine haha
No probs with what you did

I used to be good at l16 rhino and the best build i found was 1charge 1redem 4heal 5vital 4guard