Unemployed Rogue with an apparent one of the best weap Ebon bow

My first time ranting so please do try to understand where I’m coming from.

I spend most of my AL time in mausoleum and i enjoy it a lot! Except one detail... why is it that even after spending 30m+ on a bow I’m still not doing decent damage on Lich/Vori? I joke with friends how dragon staff mages made us rogues unemployed. But it really is true. I spent millions on gears just to be able to hold my own or assist other players while we run mausoleum.

I tried Immo bow just to be able to do some damage on Lich/bosses but it was sad too :/ and finally AL introduced Ebon, i was expecting so much from Ebon that us rogues get decent weapon that can at least hold a candle against dragon staff proc and actually do some damage on Lich. But unfortunately how proc works only matters in pvp not pve. I’ve seen how people complain Ebon weapon procs in pvp but hey AL! There are pve people too?!
I might be selfish or whatever you call, but at least i know many non pvp and pve concentrated rogue players can understand what i mean.
I really feel it’s unfair how end game weapon do so less damage than way low lvl weapon. I’m not saying nerf ds or how mages are unfair. It’s about how AL weapon logic is so messed up. Isn’t there way for us rogues do some damage on lich now too? Warr and Mage can kill Lich but all us Rogue can do is “tickle the hell out of Lich” whyyy???

End of ranting. Thank you :)


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Sts only balance/buff when mages are at a disadvantage never for rogue :(

The sad thing is that tanks can clear mobs easily with their new proc and even solo lich within 20s, meanwhile rog weapons r insanely expensive (ebon dags) or ebon bow that has the same proc damage as a nox in PvE.
Mages weapons aren't great either.

Specific to Lich/Vori in M6: As per the last update all classes have to use the mechanics to defeat Lich and Vori.
DS does not ignore Lich's shield anymore and is capped to deal only 1/3rd of actual damage to M6 bosses.

Do you follow the pool mechanic when Lich enables his shield?

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Originally Posted by Azerothraven

Sts only balance/buff when mages are at a disadvantage never for rogue :(

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Thats a very wrong thing to say.
And speculations like these from the community is the reason Rogues are wrecking the end game independently.

PS: The reviews of Ebon dags are awsome.
If players are not happy with bow then data specific to bow should be provided to devs so they can look into it. Cinco is testing all weapons himself.
Also, when comparing, remember your comparison should be between: Bow Vs Gun Vs Sword and Aegis Vs Dags Vs Staff.

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Originally Posted by PsychoNuke

Specific to Lich/Vori in M6: As per the last update all classes have to use the mechanics to defeat Lich and Vori.
DS does not ignore Lich's shield anymore and is capped to deal only 1/3rd of actual damage to M6 bosses.

Do you follow the pool mechanic when Lich enables his shield?

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Yep and i use dark apostle bombs too. I know how the mechanic works. I would lead the giant away from others too. Even if i follow it the damage Ebon proc do on Lich is just pathetic. I’m not greedy and asking AL make proc to drain hp like ebon aegis. I just want AL Make the damage worth the level and gold that players spent on it is what i mean.


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This has been a good season for PvE tanks xD, from broken ultimate to broken weapon.

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Originally Posted by Narana.Solarie

Yep and i use dark apostle bombs too. I know how the mechanic works. I would lead the giant away from others too. Even if i follow it the damage Ebon proc do on Lich is just pathetic. I’m not greedy and asking AL make proc to drain hp like ebon aegis. I just want AL Make the damage worth the level and gold that players spent on it is what i mean.


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Thanks for clarifying, so I understand a rogue using bow will be more appropriate to answer your concern, or probably help devs get some data on improvement.
Is the Ebon Bow proc rate and damage very less in comparison to Ebon Gun and Sword?

And at this rate i would do same disappointing damages on Hugthulu too?

End game arc weapon not being good enough for pve is just too sad and not worthy enough for other players to spend their hard earned gold on.


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Originally Posted by PsychoNuke

Thanks for clarifying, so I understand a rogue using bow will be more appropriate to answer your concern, or probably help devs get some data on improvement.
Is the Ebon Bow proc rate and damage very less in comparison to Ebon Gun and Sword?

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I have ran with ebon aegis and ebon gun payers in maus. Only worthy enough for it’s worth is Aegis and probably dagger (I’m not sure bc I haven’t seen how it deals dmg on Lich yet). As for ebon gun it’s bad too.
And bow... all i do is when Lich gets proc I’m making Lich look sparkly and pretty. Basically ebon bow proc is decorating it with a very bad damage and that’s it..

At least make the procs stack for some damage :(


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problem is: that lich have too much hp, and compared to minibosses it doesnt give any additional drop (im at 1,7m pts + 500k pts on other toons, got only 1 shard), gold loot from lich less than from minibosses, killing lich was always waste of time + that timed stun which cant be removed, still dont understand why players dont skip it

I am not sure why they scaled Maus 5/6 to level 71, they should reset it back to level 66. Afterall nightmare set is still the best gear for that content.

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Originally Posted by PsychoNuke

I am not sure why they scaled Maus 5/6 to level 71, they should reset it back to level 66. Afterall nightmare set is still the best gear for that content.

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sts already said that maus will keep on scaling with the lvl cap

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Originally Posted by slaaayerrr

problem is: that lich have too much hp, and compared to minibosses it doesnt give any additional drop (im at 1,7m pts + 500k pts on other toons, got only 1 shard), gold loot from lich less than from minibosses, killing lich was always waste of time + that timed stun which cant be removed, still dont understand why players dont skip it

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lich cant be skipped for those indeed of ap

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sts already said that maus will keep on scaling with the lvl cap



lich cant be skipped for those indeed of ap

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Yep bc of ap I don’t skip Lich


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Originally Posted by Azerothraven

Sts only balance/buff when mages are at a disadvantage never for rogue :(

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Look at current event lb before talk.
Facts

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Originally Posted by Bluehazee

Look at current event lb before talk.
Facts

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Rogue's spend 10x more gold than mages and warriors combined to be on LB e.g. gears, energy kits, awakens etc. They are also a lot more dedicated than other classes. ( and no we dont earn significantly more than any other classes). They drop rate for rogues are even rarer than any other classes.
They arent on LB because if any unbalance, they worked for it now on LB.

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Originally Posted by Bluehazee

Look at current event lb before talk.
Facts

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Wanna buy ebon daggers 99m?

Yeah, you don't. Enjoy your broken 3m staff (which sts supposedly "nerfed" but seems to still top the charts).

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Originally Posted by Abuze

sts already said that maus will keep on scaling with the lvl cap

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Right, but my question was why?
And if the content is scaled per level cap then there should be gear to compliment that content.

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Originally Posted by Azerothraven

Rogue's spend 10x more gold than mages and warriors combined to be on LB e.g. gears, energy kits, awakens etc. They are also a lot more dedicated than other classes. ( and no we dont earn significantly more than any other classes). They drop rate for rogues are even rarer than any other classes.
They arent on LB because if any unbalance, they worked for it now on LB.

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Once again that is a very false logic. Players irrespective of class spends same amount of money to buy platinum, have same odds to open locks and to get items from the locks.
The price of Rogue items are high because the number of Rogue players are more in end game compared to other 2 classes.
Higher number of consumers = less supply and higher demand = higher price of the items, thats simple economics.

If the classees are balanced then the number of players per roles will be somewhat equal like it used to be, and the prices of items will be somewhat equal as it used to be. The prices of Rogue items only raised after all the players switched to Rogue class to farm gold using the Raid Exploit in festerfang expansion.

The hard work and dedication required to play any class is same, mages and warriors also spend the same amount of gold on awakes and they also own best in slot gears. So, my dear Rogues please STOP giving such excuses.

yeah it's pretty sad lately that old weapons are still better than the current ones. At least mix up the procs to different classes such that we can have those great procs!