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karma vs golden lotus
twink vs endgame?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW4ZhBvBkhg
so this thread turns out to be "end gamer's vs twinks"
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Have twink players come to end game, lol. (Oh wait, they do...they get one hit, blame it on crit and then go twink). Mind you, amongst all the twink players, we got the best score against the winning team. So yes, I find that an achievement. Furthermore, I played a class that was not even my main class and still we performed relatively well.
Anyways, Nasty was also a well known twink too...so he's fought both end game and twink @ maxed clashes.
I do agree that both levels take skill. To say otherwise would be ignorant. However, as someone who has played both levels...endgame takes more skill. I would welcome Golden Lotus to come to end game and duel us. So far, every twink that has gotten geared and come to end game has agreed that end game requires far quicker timing, quicker thinking which in short means more skill. Twinking is far more forgiving on things like ping, timing, etc. This is a fact that simply cannot be denied.
Gear isn't everything anymore with Nekro around. Bad geared people will always have a shot to kill other people who dont have a nekro. But what i'm supposed to say about people new to the game who want to find out what pvp is .. and they find out after twinks are spawning them " me kill first, then u kill " . It's very hilarious to share kills . Look at endgamers pvp kdr and then look at twinks pvp kdr. Tell me who's farming more and who doesn't.
I don't hate twinks. I do respect some of the twinks. I don't hate nobody.
If someone say Endgame has or need more skill than twink because of quick thinking and quick reaction then I disagree.
What is there to quick think or quick act if endgame skill cooldown and twink cooldown and movement speed are same.
I do agree that endgame player kills or die faster because of the difference between health and damage ratio with twinks
I know you are pro but I am a noob twink.
However; I was disagreeing on the more skill part.
The thing I am saying is both endgame and twink needs skill. I am not saying twinks Need more skill than endgame PVP. Skill or knowledge is kind of same for every level.
Things you said about pushing forward falling back, pushing forward, skill using. All those parts are same for twinks too. Twink also should know when to use which skill, When to charge or spam skill, when to take cover on another player or environment, how to coordinate pets AA, strength and weakness of all the classes and skills of other classes.
So I still disagree if you think the endgame needs more skill than twink.
Edit: twinks have limited skill points so sometime it's more challenging what skills to use for vs and clash.
For people who think end game is all luck based because it is pure crit, please think again. In a clash, MOST of the attacks from mages and rogues are in fact crits, which actually evens the scales and reduces the luck factor. In twinks, the rate of crit is lower, resulting in more variability and hence a greater "luck" factor as you call it.
Additionally, if you play against people who out gear you, obviously you will lose. If I walk into twink levels with a epic set and 3% crit, of course the enemies will destroy me with their significantly higher crit. Voila! Crit became a factor at twink levels too.
As people already stated, end game required much better technology, ping, and quicker thinking. One mistake from any player and the whole team dies. At twink levels a single mistake won't even cause the player who made it a death most of the time.
For those bringing up the Golden Lotus match, Night and Zeus were both not playing their preferred classes, and they had much less experience at twink levels than their opponents. Why don't the Golden Lotus team come to end game and challenge the same team with their rogue playing a tank and their tank as the rogue? Let's see if they win.
Twink = Endgame with less skill points
Nuff said
ik that in endgame when someone make a mistake they and their team will die. pvp in twink and in endgame really are diffirence. maybe golden lotus cant win in endgame but they win in tournament cuz they play in twink they have more experience gw in their lvl they play. if u have experience gw in twink tell me about gw 2 warrior 1 mage 2 rouge?