Lol veterans are people who have sewer vanity crown or founders lol 200plat maybe to get gold dragon pet first time and what about farming for dragon armor or helm let add on another 800plat or more and thats maybe get a drop or two it seems to me some people just have sts blessings with drops i wonder how or why when i have on a shanrock elixir and bigger luck some one with out anything doing nothing in group somehow gets the good drops bs